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It's seven o'clock. Do you know where your freedom is?

Do you want this?

I said, do you want this?

But if you want to transcend the game,

Your mind and your body have to be in sync.

How hard you're willing to work.

I'm never good enough

So you're gonna have to ask yourself

What am I willing to sacrifice?

Sacrifice.

Want this.

What do you want to know?

Everything!

And show me.

You know, you will a little bit like a friend of mine.

Oh from Cincinnati. Yeah. But he's learning like...

A living offshore account?

I'm sure he does. I mean that's partly this is my friend who's a drummer and bassist who has only one hand.

Wait. Either I'm having one of those moments where you've just described him very well to me.

But I also feel like I have to do that.

One handed musician.

Either in Columbus or in Cincinnati'cause I've played plenty of shows

He may have been in a band that went to

Yeah. And they were and they were called lefty, but I figured anybody that's that's a one-handed musician has a chance.

But they would play gigs and I would g I mean I would go sometimes with my girlfriend's cover band'cause she that's the band that she was with, it was some cover band, they would do gigs all around and I would go with them and then she would later on

and he was in it and and uh Adam was in it and yeah, they would go all around that kinda area between You know, Cincinn that whole hub Cincinnati to Columbus, Dayton, you know to Indianapolis.

You know, into northern Kentucky, you know, that whole kinda

Who played guitar?

Summer and bases.

Yeah, I'm I'm confident. I feel like I'm gonna send some people.

I will see if I can find a picture of him. And I'm once I find one, I will send it to you.

Yeah.

It will be very funny.

If you two did cross paths and it wouldn't surprise me because that musical scene Isn't very big.

Ohio. Yeah, Ohio. There are a lot of music.

But it seemed to be everybody kind of

And he has a beard or had a beard.

Yeah, he has a beard and um I guess as he started losing his hair he just shaved all of it.

And he you all of a sudden had a smile that it was yeah, he just never had a mo But no, I think he maybe just had a like a tennis ball yellow green like

Shaved shaved like closely shaved head for a while a little bit. See, you don't look as much like him with.

Since you clearly like him more than you like me, I

No, my hat back.

That's a compliment because I like him a lot. He's one of my friends from that area that you know, I still like and you know, he moved away as did I. It was always my plan to move away.

Anyway, I was gonna say um And then my dad got sick and died.

says that October of twenty four I did get to go down there and

kind of visit with him. I mean, he was on oxygen But mobile oxygen, you know, or portable he could do that.

I'm glad I got to spend s at least some'cause there he did get a little bit better towards the end.

And um even though I was back up here at the time, the he was in a like Catholic run facility and the had nun that runs it.

had an iPhone and my stepmother wasn't there.

This was in in the morning and it I'm so happy it was the day I was working from home and not in the office. And anyway she had an iPhone and so she was able to FaceTime me.

and I was able to talk to my father right before and while he took his Final breath.

That meant a lot.

And it wasn't like it was sudden. I mean he had been in ill health for for a while. But he made it to eighty. So there was that. I kinda n expected it

October. Yeah. I was like I it was I knew it was a matter of time, but I don't know that on a funny note.

My'cause you know my dad worked for the government.

And he was in the National Guard.

Well he was my roommate when I first moved to New York.

But he and I have known each other.

Since nineteen ninety, okay. Like I went to Russia with him and

you know, like he's gone he went down to Mobile with me like a couple of times. Like one time was during Maudigra and we were in a parade and with my mom well helped her with her clown and stuff. But anyway

something that uh just tickled me about Adam. As he my father passes away, he's like 'Cause my father's government and military stuff, he's like, Well now we can file that Freedom of Information Act Requests that we've always wanted

my dad was so I'm totally gonna do it. I'm like, yeah, I wanna know. Um

We can go on then. I think I'm pretty caught up you know it's I'm in a toxic work environment.

So sometime we can talk the movie No Other Choice and Corporations and My Fucking Job. I don't even want to think about it right now.

And mom's doing it.

My uh little sister got married.

In North Carolina, was gonna go, but then I was Yeah, I don't know if you knew that I I teach art classes at the museum now.

My thang.

Well when I first started there I just kind of sat in the We've got a area on the first floor uh just past the cat hallway.

Cat art, photographs, sculpture, Um at the end of the hallway we've got we've got all different kinds of Make up.

No fire, no glitter. There's basically the only things you can't.

And I

It just I tell ya.

Um so yeah when I first started there that I just Was a person in the room?

Background checked person. I mean and me.

Uh children love me. Uh weird old ladies love.

Uh so I just sort of started helping a teacher our boss got hurt, so she was pretty much So it was just me and her for most of the big group of homeschool kids.

Social time, field trips would come in.

Do something something.

And then Last sight.

I will not call myself a teacher because I but I'm one of the main education.

Um today Ninety kids.

Um All at once.

No, split into two groups.

Uh

But usually it's it's more like a private school number of kids. There's you know

But but still I'm saying

With art.

Or cracked class.

Yeah. Even you need a slightly more contained Group.

Exactly.

Just to control like accident.

And these were third grade.

Okay.

Um but anyway I work with a bunch of And uh br shortly before I might have been exposed to COVID.

And I was sitting there, I was like, I really don't think you know, it was within the window where it might not show up on a test. I was like, So am I gonna go fly?

To a wedding, said Am I gonna be that guy?

And I I mean the only person I really Really stressed out but I just

I was like, Hey, this is what's up. I'm thinking I

Are you okay with that? And I mean you still wouldn't have gone.

But I just wanted to do that.

She's like, Yeah, don't please. Please don't come.

And I was like fine, great. I feel great.

Yeah.

My mom When you uh it came to mind a little bit.

She is refounding.

She sent me a text like the next day.

She said.

Five in the morning. We have four or five in the morning.

Your sister told me That sounds like something.

Like one thing You know I hate this person, so you know doing is gonna make the happen.

Yeah.

And second What the fuck do you mean?

Totally good.

Exactly. With COVID.

He wouldn't.

That's the truth. Yeah, okay. That's kinda this brings me to A pol another political Here in New York City.

Okay. Recently I was with girlfriend that the one I was with here and um Sylvia She's more Okay.

registered democrat but more moderate. Like her mo her Ecuadorian mother.

And e and she told her not to, like that kind of thing. Okay. Well so Sylvia, I'm with her'cause we're gonna go like to the movie.

after my birth. We're out there by Union Square, which was new near the movie theater. And like a few days a week they set up like farmers market and like different vendors sell things.

They have routinely have a booth of like Mandani stuff up there.

So I went over and Like I want to buy, you know, a tote bag.

And

I buy an I buy one, whatever, bodega cats for Zoaran. And you know within in like the design and like colors and every re and they were all reasonable prices, everything that was there, you know, good variety and

There was like no justice on stolen land type stuff was there too. You know, it after I bought the tote bag and we're walking to the theater.

Sylvia says to me I don't like Mondani.

He's from a rich family. I didn't say it at the time. I bit I knew she won she voted for Cuomo.

Totally not Super Rich fan. And that's what I was thinking to myself on the subway ride home later. I'm like, I could have made several arguments against this.

One

You voted for Cuomo. His daddy was gov a former governor of New York State. They're both multimillionaires, okay?

Plus, he had the backing of several billionaires, including our former mayor, Michael Bloomberg.

The groping that and the whole covet controversy and then on the other hand, you look at Mandani

I mean, he's not perfect, but he's not from a rich background. His parents are academics. Like

All the academic elites that run this country.

You mean tenure exists. That's like a cap on I mean, even if you go to a different school to teach.

You'd never get that much of a raise if you ever do.

'Cause you usually have to work your way back up to get tenure.

You know, that's just how the system works. And his mother

being a filmmaker, making independent films. You certainly don't make money they and they didn't pay his way into college. Like he got scholarships, like'cause he studied. Like and so I you know, I got my tote back.

I guess this was maybe Monday?

I was coming home from work and one of my neighbors on my floor, he saw my bag in the elevator.

And he's g you know, we're getting out on the same floor and he's like I ha I had to tell him where the stand was'cause he's like, I've been wanting something. Like some somebody appreciates But Cracking up that You know, I just go I go into work and physer

think at least six floors. Cause it's their corporate headquarters. It it's at least six floors. Anyway, um, but then there are This is like

In my building and right next to it. Like, so I'm sporting that little bag like around all that.

Screw you. Yeah, I mean like when my mom and I went for we did like a long weekend trip for my birthday in twenty four.

We went to Philly and

What did we do on my birthday? What did Vanessa want to do on her birthday? Because I'm that person. I wanted to visit.

The eastern state penetratory.

Yeah, it was very fascinating. Um We went on a tr a regul like a regular Like haunted You could it's definitely give you the heebie jeebies'cause it's And the way it's built is just very off.

The only cell that they have.

preserved like kinda or

that they've preserved and like is intact is where Al Capone was kept. And

A banjo at that time?

It's just crazy uh it was used up until the nineteenth seventy.

And there are elementary schools right by it. So that if inmates were in the yard, they could ha hear children having re But the solitary confinement cells there Everything was premature.

when they I mean, when they like the way that they had it, it was they would put bags over your head there and like move you.

Anytime you were being moved in between like between

public areas or stuff so because they didn't want inmates to see each other or potentially plan escape and get the lay of to you know the land. It's kind of meant to confuse.

But initially when it was started, like women, children, and even some animals were locked up there. There is a story of one dog that was locked up.

and it became a mascot for the prison. Um, because it bit the mayor.

Like on multiple occasions. It's it was a very interesting tour, especially since the guy who led it had been incarcerated himself. My name is John Johnson, but everyone here calls me Vicky. Not there.

He was he was younger guy, but he at least had experience of being behind bars in including solitary confinement. I was glad that we had someone who That could give that insight.

You've always been as long as I've known.

The criminal and justice system, as we say. Yeah.

Oh I have notes about that.

As you would,

I well I didn't realize I hadn't watched the movie until I realized oh this has been on my to-do list until I watched

For getting me to watch it now. Um, I already had some ideas ahead of time that I Thought might I saw the tree.

Okay, we're are we gonna start talking about it?

Sure, whenever.

I had I had not heard of it until I saw that it was And Amanda said, Well, why don't we watch this?

It's all poor.

Horror movie that people say is supposed to be good, and Jordan Peele has something to do with it. That's all I knew.

He's a producer.

What was that the last movie we talked about? Candyman?

Yes, that was a monkey paw.

He did not direct that.

Stepping on your toes. No no no. It was supposed to have an amped up top.

I mean'cause America fuck yeah. That was the first thing I thought when the film opens.

Jet flyover.

Blue, exactly, with the stars in stripes like graphics and everything. America particularly with football, they do it with some other sports. You know, they always say

Baseball's America's pastime. I don't feel the media and fans get us hyped about it.

like in the same patriotic way as they do about foot I'm talking American.

US American.

US Americans. I'm not talking Canadian Americans. I would go maybe high.

Or curling. Yeah. Other people like Central and South America.

More like actual football. But interestingly enough, American sports are invading parts of central and south.

Like I was surprised when I went to Ecuador to s see Well, there was a certain amount of NFL stuff.

Bye.

a lot of NBA and is someone who basketball is my primary sport. I know I know that stuff.

But it's just I knew like recognized like all these different players and the different teams and it wasn't even just one team.

But American football. You said you hadn't seen this movie or the trailer.

I had not seen it.

No one.

On Peacock, if you look on Peacock, which is where I streamed it, I don't know if where you streamed.

Yeah, I saw it on

They have like the rating low on there.

They do.

And I know this wasn't as commercially successful as other Jordan Peel projects, whatever which whatever, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

But... I think still it you know, it has its its definite merits, you know, as a film.

But when it comes to American football and this can happen in any sport,'cause I had it happen to me

Playing floor hockey. Of course I shouldn't I needed a helmet in any protected gear at all.

hockey pot to the head, to the face, knock you unconscious. That's never a good thing. Um but I just think with American football there's such a discussion about C T E. Isn't that what concussion?

I forget what it all stands for, but something

Concussive traumatic.

Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

Yeah.

Gotcha. Progressive degenerative brain disease. I think I saw something Oh like ninety something percent.

I know someone who died there.

who was who used to play for the New York G and I mean my mom Was I I mean I only met him really.

But my mom was like friends with done in Alabama'cause that's where he ended up retiring.

And and I mean like this you know, before It's like he ended up with kinda really the suffering from it.

Which it was almost like he had Alzheimer's.

And but he was in a clear enough headspace where he knew that he had this.

And he said after I die I want my brain to be studied. There's such the debate.

a main s became a mainstream discussion because it wasn't it was it wasn't like we all of a sudden scientists like they been doing research on it for years.

You know, in fact The first or one of the first um researchers It was a black man and he's was the one who gave it the name.

Yeah.

Off hand, I cannot remember his name. I can barely remember what the the the condition is.

Um,'cause they didn't ha write that down.

It's just the debate about Do you put a child into a sport?

Where They can get tackled or have a I mean and I also want to ask you this.

Darren as a parent. Now granted he looks in the pictures like he's pretty padded and well guarded.

Tends to be a lower occurrence than

I was gonna ask.

Uh yeah, it it tends to be lower in goalies and it tends to be lower in I knew that's a good thing.

Yeah. I think I mean it's not like perfectly safe, but I even one time he played flag football for a And he said, This shit is too rough.

Which is a weird thing to say.

No, actually that makes sense to me.

So he's it it is a concern

Uh his mom really didn't want him to play football. Um and she's I mean, she's more concerned than I am with hockey and everything like that, but He gets slammed out.

So less often.

And if anybody gets close, it's still at this age, you get close to the goalie, somebody is grabbing you, shoving you.

So it it it is like

Yeah.

We definitely got him.

The top notch goalie parent complaining where your most successful

He uh

I wish he would wear the throat dangler, but he wears a padded.

But I figured you would, um, knowing you as a parent. But uh I wanted to ask like how hockey compares and particularly

for youth hockey. Um, I know that even youth Very easy to get concussion.

The same with Lacra yeah, exactly. Uh he's They don't have a boys lacrosse team at his school, they do have a girls.

probably because they probably don't have a girls football.

No, they don't have either football team. They have a baseball team.

uh which I think is co ed. They've got two soccer teams.

His hockey, even though we have NHL players that won't be They don't have a hockey team yet.

But there are So many hockey teams.

Yeah. So comparing with with the football y with youth youth hockey.

Yeah. Main question.

I would say he's been playing hot.

Really I hadn't heard about

So uh But he's been playing uh this this was his Which is a step up, you know, it's when they add the He was playing in a house league before.

But in the five or six years.

One kid on his way.