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The Podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing.

I am the devil, and I am here to do the devil's work.

So this Michael.

Be one of us.

I didn't tell you my name.

Hang up.

I didn't tell you my name.

It is time to keep your appointment.

Jesus!

Are you alright?

Uh sure.

Nothing's going on here, just kids playing pranks, waiting for a podcast, trick-or-treating, partying, giddin' high.

I have the feeling you're way off on this.

You have the wrong feeling.

Well you're not coming up with much to prove me wrong.

What do you need exactly?

Well it's gonna take more than fancy talk to keep me.

up all night creeping around these bushes.

Listen, I've recorded the podcast for over ten years, sitting in a room, staring at a wall, not seeing the wall, seeing past it.

Waiting for this night.

They've waited for it.

Inhumanly patient, hour after hour, day after day

Waiting for some silent invisible alarm to trigger them.

This podcast has arrived in your little town, Sheriff.

You can ignore it or you can help me record it.

More fancy talking.

You wanna know what

Podcasting is families, children, all lined up for new episodes.

This episode tonight.

They're lined up on all the streets.

You're telling me they're lined up for a slaughterhouse.

They could be.

I'll record.

Review tonight, Doctor.

Just on the chance that you're right.

And if you are right, damn you for recording this episode.

Michael Hello and welcome to the Podcast on Haunted Hill, episode 185.

I'm Gully.

Gab sitting in the crypt with Dusted Lee Dad.

Welcome to our Halloween special.

I'm not gonna do that voice.

Oh episode.

But uh uh here we are, it's spooky, it's uh me and Dan, we're kooky.

Uh it'd be good if we had a Wookiee.

in the place.

What else rhymes with that?

A dookie?

Um Wookie doing a dookie?

And then we're gonna have a little bit of nookie.

Oh with a Wookiee

Oh dear.

Chewies.

Yeah, that's Chewy Chi I always imagine Chewy being extremely well hung, so I'm sure he is, like a horse.

Happy Halloween everybody.

Um how's everyone doing?

Uh

Is everybody well and safe out there?

And if you're trick or treating while listening to us, be careful.

Someone could sneak up behind you like Michael Myers and take you out.

Because you'd be so engrossed listening to the

Oral tones from the froats and the saliva and the blood and the glands of Dan and I's insides.

Wow.

Sounds like we're turning inside out.

Well this is uh Halloween episode um episode 185 as you said.

And as is tradition for the last five years now, um we'll be covering we'll be doing a franchise face-off.

And randomly we paired up Nightmare in Elm Street and the Halloween franchise because there's so many of them and because we're covering from

the thirteenth separately in our summer over the summer every year.

Um so we've covered, you know, all of them are up until part six.

So this time around, this episode, this year, this Halloween, we've say the best still last.

Well no.

because there's a couple more to go next year.

But we are being I laughed when I said the best.

We are covering a nightmare on Elm Street.

Well it's actually called Freddy's Dead The Final Nightmare

from 1991.

And normally these franchises released in the same year.

Spoiler, it wasn't the final one.

It wasn't the final one.

There's two more after that and then a remake.

And then we are also covering

Halloween 6, The Curse of Michael Myers, starring Ant Man himself, who still annoyingly doesn't look any different.

I I was watching it and Alice said, oh what's this film?

I said, oh it's um this is from 95.

She said, he looks good, doesn't he?

And I thought, fuck off

But yes, he does.

Um yes, so Halloween 6, the curse of Michael Marks from 95.

So this is the first year Halloween has taken has overtaken the Friday

uh the Nightmare on Elm Street um franchise by year because they normally release around the same year but this year part six of the Halloween it was four years after part six of the nightmares.

Um so little tidbit for you there gaff.

Thought you might like that

Tippets.

We all like tippets.

Happy Halloween.

Happy Halloween to see you.

Happy spectacular.

Happy w Halloween to us both.

I like your costume.

Yeah, I'm well as I was gonna go as a skeleton, but I couldn't be bothered to take off on my skin.

So it's a hard, a hard one to do.

To unzip, unzip one's self.

Yeah, there is a garbage pal kid that I used to absolutely love where he's unzipping his.

.

.

Have you seen that garbage pell kid?

I can't remember his name though, where he's unzipping his skull and his skeleton's coming out and it's I think it's called like unzipped Zach or something like that.

It's scary that being a horror movie, someone just right put has a wig, pulls their wig off and has a zip and just starts un but you'd see the zip though beforehand so that it needs to be around the back.

That scene does exist in the film by Ron Howard.

Starring the sexy Steve Gutenberg, uh called Cocoon.

Cocoon.

Where the aliens, um, they they're sort of partying on a yacht and they they don't know Steve Gutenberg's spying on them and they unzip their human skin and their sort of these weird

glowing things underneath and it's really freaked me out as a kid that's a bit more than a bit.

I I that film um was a weird one.

As a kid in the eighties I'd like being gross and trying to get in everything, Robocock to fucking Goonies to fucking everything.

every good 80s viewing kid did and uh that one was a weird one because remember it's on tv once I was oh yeah it's about eight inch shit yeah no I just sit down and watch it and I'm like uh I don't know ten

Nine, ten, I don't know.

And watching it and like it's it's all about old people.

I and there's literally no characters that I can relate to in the slightest what ha uh wanna see.

This but there's a dude from Police Academy, so okay, I like Police Academy, so that's

Got that going for it.

And the guy from Rambo.

The guy from Rambo's in it as well.

Okay, but it it was all seemed too serious and about aging and stuff.

Like now

I bet if we fucking said let's cover it for uh the uh podcast just for the hell of it and I don't watch it until that episode, I'll probably come up with you and say, Oh my god, I understand what it is, it's about age and being old and Yeah, I watched it recently and it's quite relatable.

now.

It's all about sort of w wanting to get your your youth back and your energy back levels back, you know, and it's yeah, it's quite hard hitting now as an older person.

And funny enough

As a segue, I'll swing into um what we've been watching and all that sort of stuff and get into our Halloween spirit because I'm not going to go into them all

Um uh but just a couple of the 31 movies I've been watching, so for anyone who doesn't know I'm watching only Stephen King movies and now I'm a dad.

There's been two movies that I haven't seen since becoming a dad.

One of those is The Mist.

I watched that recently.

And that ending now.

Now I now I'm a dad.

Oh, now you feel like that's a big thing.

Because as soon as the boy as soon as the boy shows up and

They really play up the the relationship that he's got.

He loves his son so much his son's crying for Daddy don't leave me.

I'll never leave you, I promise, and I'll always fight for you, I'll do everything I can.

And then the ending comes and I was just like

I didn't actually get upset the ending.

I was upset more during the film because I knew what was coming.

But that cast is phenomenal and it's all Walking Dead sort of cast because um it was

by the guy that did Walking Dead.

Um I didn't realise that.

And he actually wanted Thomas Jane to be the lead in Walking Dead, but obviously it it went to Andrew Lincoln in the end instead.

Um

But um yeah, what a what a film, one of the best adaptations.

And Stephen King said, because that isn't how the ending of the book is

Um but Stephen King apparently was watching it with the the guy that directed it, Darabon, isn't it?

Frank Darabon.

And he leant over to him as the credits rolled and said

That's one hell of an ending.

Steam King says that about your adaptation of one of his works.

You've done a good job.

Done a good job.

It is it was bleak.

It is.

And the other one I watched, similarly bleak, Now I'm a Dad.

It's the original Pet Semetery Gav.

Why did I watch it?

Why?

Very quickly before you before you get on to it very quickly, uh Andrew Lincoln, just quick one, uh my friend Oscar uh uh said he went up to London the other day and watched a play.

with Andrew Lincoln in it and he said it's a most amazing uh immersive theatre thing.

All of a sudden the the stage turned into a swimming pool.

Wow.

And Andrew Lincoln was just swimming in the swimming pool and then just it kept changing and uh all different things.

Then there's like rain coming down at one period.

He's just walking in the rain and all the front rain is like 3D sound around you, like surround sound, you know

So I was like man that'd be amazing.

Anyway, sorry that was my anti-lincolin memory nudge.

Um carry on with uh Pets and Yes, children children being killed by runover trucks.

Yes go.

Yeah.

Um that was

He's a cute little boy as well.

It's when he he you you n you see it before the parents that oh he's he shouldn't probably shouldn't be going over there, have a little run over there.

Then the parents see it and then you're with going uh Yeah.

And as if that wasn't as ups upsetting enough.

Is that then buries him in the pet cemetery and then he comes back to life and then it's that horrible moment where the little zombie boy is bastard

He is a little bastard, but he's also don't admit Eddie!

What if he was already a little bastard?

Well Would he come back super bastard, double R bastard, or reversed call?

Actually, I also watched Bloody Cujo and that's got got some upsetting scenes if you're a parent as well, so I've not really done myself any favours really.

Now that I'm a parent.

But anyway, I won't go into the wall.

The reason I won't go into all of our watches, um I just wanted to touch on a couple, is because if you're a patron

supporter of this show.

We have been dropping some exclusive mini episodes for you.

So far I think we've got four out now where we're breaking down in a little bit more detail what we've been watching with little mini reviews.

So

If you're not already a patron supporter, that might be a little nudge for you to want to join join us.

Join us.

Um I I covered my first ten in my first mini episode and then my next ten.

So I'll be finishing up with another episode towards the end of the month.

And Gav, you've done a couple of episodes covering probably about your first fifteen or so.

Seven and seven, I think.

Yeah, seven and seven, fourteen.

Yeah, so um if you are interested in what we've been watching in a bit more detail over the 31 days of horror, then

Check that out if you're a patron and if you're not a patron and sign up even if you just sign up for a month.

Uh come come uh off after the Halloween episode, patron episode episodes are dropped

Um I will be starting to do mini episodes um which is just me because uh Dan and I it's easier for Dan and I do it's occasionally though we can do some um

uh patron content.

We can call it exclusively after dark or something like that, can't we done?

The podcast on until after dark.

'Cause that was what Baywatch Baywatch did that.

Baywatch Baywatch um Baywatch Nights they did.

Do you remember when they did that?

And Hasselhoff became like a private investigator.

So he was moonlighting as a private investigator at night.

And it was a bit more adult.

Have you not seen Baywatch Nights?

No.

There was and then they sort of did some episodes where there was a ghost and then there was um aliens and you tell me he drove Kit around as well.

Oh, if he'd have done that.

It got a bit X-Files towards the end and they ended up cancelling it after like two or three seasons because it was just like this isn't Baywatch.

Baywatch is like beaches.

It's not about David Hasselhoff solving murder as aliens.

Remember Midnight Caller?

So ra radio show.

I used to it used to be on quite late on like Boopsy One.

Uh and I used to watch that as a kid because didn't have many channels as a kid, four channels, and that's it.

Uh so yeah, I used to watch that.

Um anyway, yeah.

Patreon content.

I'm gonna do some more stuff.

I'm gonna do some mini episodes, I'm gonna do some top top tens.

I've got a load of top ten lists I'm gonna be rocking

My favourite horror and some uh recommendations that you probably haven't seen.

Um I recently picked up a shitload of VHS.

Did you see?

I did, Scab.

Why don't you tell our listeners what you what you got?

Um Well, I I'm not gonna go through it all as I've got about twenty-six different titles and really um

Some are kind of obscure stuff I don't even know a couple of them.

Um just a load of VHS, some lady in Peterborough.

where uh Sarah lives was selling them um so but she was doing bundles and you couldn't specifically just say I want these ones she was doing like you gust get twenty-five movies back I was like

Yeah, but I don't want just random horror movies.

I want to choose obviously.

But anyway, so I've sorted out I've only got like 26 movies offer.

Two quid of tape.

And uh yeah, I got some really good shit, which is good because it'd be good for when I start my YouTube channel for the video store, uh, which will be coming soon in a couple of years.

A couple is is a

In a couple of years probably.

I gotta get the studio sorted out properly a proper studio sorted out for it.

So um but I I'm collecting video tapes.

Horror video tapes but s

So I've got those so I can review the movies.

Um so I'm yeah um digging digging that digging getting a big load of fucking horror VHS.

I'm well into it

Yeah, it's cool.

They take up a lot of room but they're cool man and I love them.

You know, I watched both of our movies.

Actually that's a lie.

I watched um Freddy on DVD because I own the DVD and I watched Halloween on VHS because I own all the Halloween on VHS.

Well, up until number six.

I don't have seven or eight.

Never own them, so um next year I'll be and we are making our own as well, Deadbolt Films.

Uh we've got an HP Lovecraft of our three short films, which um we sold a couple of recently

To some collectors.

Um, and then we could do Amanda, the foul footage may be good.

Put that, press that onto video as well, because we can

I was thinking about VHS tapes because my VHS player is starting to show signs of it's not going to last much longer.

'Cause it's like third hand.

And you can't really bu it's so hard to buy them.

At some point, yeah, I know, they're getting this and this and this.

You do see them all the time, but you see kind of shitty sort of Sanyo ones

Well I was mine funny, mine is a Sanyo funny one.

Oh sorry.

Um No it's fine because it is shit.

Um real cheap plastic casing top ones.

But the one what I was thinking of, and this is just a bit of a tangent before we carry on with our Halloween watches and celebrations, is why doesn't somebody invent

Now there might this might be out there.

So tell me lessons if it is.

But a little tiny like a mini VHS player that's a little bit bigger than like a say about the size of a big box VHS rental tape.

And it just sits

behind your your TV plugged in and it's just enough space to put the cassette in.

It doesn't have to have any buttons on it.

'Cause you could use a remote control for it.

And it goes in so that sideways.

You know what I mean?

So you're putting it in.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it has like a little slot for VHS.

Yeah.

Um like a little post just a little box you've got behind your T V and you plug it in.

That's pretty cool, man.

I'd love that 'cause

And especially putting inside of ears, it'd be so convenient, there'd be none of this front loading stuff, just down in, press play, and boom.

I think also TV's got such slim

It got so slim, so they obviously have to have one bigger case.

Not attached to no, not just like a something you buy.

Like a V it's basically a VHS.

Yeah

Just VHS drive.

Because you can get like a Sega Mini.

You can get one and have it as an app on your phone, like a VHS drive.

How fucking cool would that be?

I wouldn't fit a VHS tape in my phone, I don't think.

Right, you bloody idiot.

Um

Uh I've watched a couple of Hareen films now.

We've been down with like we just said during the Patreon episode uh where we've been saying what we're saying.

I am gonna say two of them very quickly.

I could give a shout out to uh S the Summer of 84

Summer of 84.

Um excellently produced film.

Um I can't recommend this film enough if you

kind of like the Stranger Things vibes as in you like you grew up with the Goonies and Gremlins and all that stuff.

Um

and Vamp, uh not Vamp, sorry, Friday night, things like that.

Um and you can really relate to I think you would.

It's such a well produced film.

You've seen it haven't you?

I have, yeah.

It's been a while.

I think I saw it when it first came out, which is about two, three, four years in.

I think it got overshadowed with uh Stranger Things coming out.

I really enjoyed it

I d I did really enjoy it.

Is that the first time you've seen it?

No, second, but the first time was years ago.

Um and this time round I really watched it and I was like, man, this is really good.

The Blu-ray copies are it are like

Forty odd quid, I think it is.

It was on um pretty sure it was on Netflix.

Shadow Ah Shadow, that's where I saw it.

And it's not now uh you can rent

On Amazon, I think.

But it's a really, really good film.

I really recommend that movie if you like that kind of eighties vibe.

But it's so well produced.

The music, the cast, the ca the kids in it are so well cast.

One

The glass sorry kid, but the kid who has the glasses and the red hair, I think he's got all red hair in it, out of the four of them, he looks like the girl from the Goonies

I know the girl got the game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got the two girls.

He looks like the one with the glasses.

It's so weird.

That film that has

picked up a lot of steam over the years and it's funny it's almost like that's what Shudder's for.

Shudder and some of these smaller places to to rent or to stream.

they get they pick up their speed on there.

Now people want to go out and buy the physical copy of that a few years later because it's developed a bit of a cult following, which I think is is great.

It doesn't happen very often.

No.

But you know, a trick our treat is a great example of that.

You know, I was listening to a podcast today where they were talking about trick our treat saying

It only really came out of the UK at film festivals, did a very limited run in in the US, and it's only because of streaming and

DVD and now Blu-ray, people love that film.

Some people like cannot go a Halloween without watching it.

Yeah, it's very, very staple of Halloween 'cause uh really well made short films though.

That's the thing.

Some of those anthropologies can you know

Hit and miss, but that's a solid movie for Out.

Yeah, and I it it struck me when I was listening to these guys discussing, I was like, Oh yeah, it never really

officially came out other than it like Frightfest here and a few other places.

I don't think it had a cinema run in the UK.

Yeah, I think it had issues somewhere, I can't remember what.

Um so summer of 84, um uh basically four kids they think uh the the next door neighbor who's a cop is a killer.

Um that's not really spoiler, that is the synopsis of the film.

Um it's really good and uh I definitely definitely recommend that film if you're into that sort of thing.

If you like the burbs and you like Fright Knight, you'll love some of this for yeah, yeah.

Totally.

Basically those three films.

Um what was your other recommendation?

Uh Incantation on Netflix.

Um I hadn't seen it, it was on my list to watch.

Um so Charlie's like

Uh so do I watch horror movie and they like um formerly known as Ask Jasmine, um they like found footage films.

Um they really dig found footage actually out of all any all horror films.

Um I think they like the realism of it.

So um we watched incantation on Netflix, which is really, really good.

Okay, let me add this to my list as live

as we do this because I'll take your recommendations.

And I do um love a good frame footage movie and it was just creepy, really creepy at times.

Uh we watched it until about one in the morning

Um it's good, I wasn't creeped out, but it does have a real creepy vibe to it.

So if you want like late nights and found footage, subtitled, I think it's from China.

Um

Yeah, very good.

I I highly recommend that one actually.

As her life spirals out of control, a rebellious undergraduate begins practicing a forbidden witchcraft, etc etc, etc.

Yeah, okay.

Deadly curse.

Brilliant.

Love that.

Um great.

On my list.

Thanks, Gav.

There you go.

That's that's all I'm gonna say.

Uh so I recommend them for this Halloween season.

There's my recommendations.

I only have two more to mention and then we'll get into our franchise face-off and what we were doing for Halloween, etc.

I watched the new

Friday the thirteenth short for the first time today, uh, which is called Sweet Revenge.

So never hike alone.

Uh I was gonna say it it's following on for Moses it.

It I think it's a different

production team completely different and it's almost a different spin on it.

It's a fan film like like our Sanctuary Moon.

Yeah and it's it's thirteen minutes long.

It's on YouTube now to watch.

It's called Sweet Revenge.

It

It's an interesting take on it.

Jason's great in it.

Some really good kills in it.

A little confusing, so I might have to re-watch it.

I think I get where they're going with the ending of it.

But it is only 13 minutes of your time and about three minutes of that is is four minutes of that is credit.

So honestly, if you've got 20 minutes to spare

Watch Sweet Revenge.

If you want if you're hungry for more Jason and you've had enough of all the other Jasons, check that one out.

But the the other one, the main one I really wanted to mention from my 31

you know and again I'll be going into these in real great detail on our Patreon episodes.

I've said it a million times but subscribe um is the shining av.

Now

I'm gonna be honest with you, I've always appreciated the shining, but I've never, I've always thought it was slightly overhyped.

I don't know why.

We covered it years ago with with Duncan on our crossover show with the podcast Under the Stands.

I think it might have been.

So we're talking ten years ago.

It might might even be mine, to be honest with you.

And I watched it the other night.

with Alice.

Um had she seen it?

Sh she seen it, yeah, but probably not not seen it.

Yeah.

So I had it the volume up.

And I was watching it and I was drawn into it.

This film is nothing short of a masterpiece.

And I don't know why it uh it's taken me all these years to get to that.

Let me tell you what it is.

I didn't realise how much of the tension and terror comes from the score.

The score is terrifying and phenomenal throughout its

constant sounds and bass and tension, uh all coming from this this orchestral score.

I listen to that score a lot.

That's good.

It's Jack Nicholson's performance.

It's the hotel.

It's the little boy's performance.

It's just and because I had the volume up so loud, I think it was just really getting under my skin and

And now I'm totally like, I see it.

I've always liked the movie.

You know, it's a classic Kubrick, Nicholson, you know, it's a Stephen King.

And I I know Stephen King didn't like it, but um

Wow, that that is nothing short of fantastic and I'll be watching Doctor Sleep in the next day or two, which I've only seen once as well, and I I remember really enjoyed that.

And now I've freshly watched The Shining.

I'm excited to watch

Doctor sleep.

I wish I could have done them as a double bill, but that would have been about four and a half, five hours long in total.

So don't really have the time or the mental energy to stay awake for that.

But yeah, the Shining Man, like if you haven't seen it for a long time, like like me and perhaps Gav, go back and watch it and really turn off all the lights, put your phone away.

you know and just listen to that score and watch it unfold it is absolutely terrifying and Daniel Kerson is a real piece of shit in this film but he does it in such a way it's great and

Anyway, I just I'm not gonna keep going on about it, but the shiny we all know it, but it's yeah it's great, great movie and uh I'm weirdly never really appreciated just how great it was until the other day.

So that's that.

I love it when that happens though, do you know what I mean?

It's not very often it happens.

Um

But occasionally you watch a film and you actually quite often I think by yourself, maybe sometimes as well, I don't know.

Um and you just watch a film and all of a sudden you just like go

Oh my god I uh wow the same I don't know it's like clicks at a certain point I had the key opens a door and you go oh Oh

I get this now.

It's not quite the same level, but it's happened with Hereditary.

I didn't like that film.

And then the second time I watched it, I still didn't really like it.

And the third time I watched Hereditary, I like

This is really good actually.

Yeah.

I don't know why.

That's why I'm happy to go back and watch a film that I haven't necessarily rated very highly.

Well, 'cause I know sometimes I unlock these Halloween six I was uh not I'm not saying it's up there with shining.

But similar enjoyed it more than I actually thought I was gonna join.

But anyway, um anything else to say, Daniel?

Uh the only other thing is, uh are you doing anything fun for Halloween?

But

Are you marting stressing up?

I'm away for the week next week.

um with Sarah.

Um I actually we've been on holiday twice this month.

Don't everybody think fucking hell look at you rich boy.

That's where the patron money's going.

No, uh uh it's out of season so I did it last year as well.

Going on holiday later in the year, it's actually a bit cheaper.

So me and Sarah are off to the seaside, east of England, mid mid west, mid mid England, east mid

Whatever you wanna say.

Um and we're gonna watch a load of horror movies in a lodge and leading up to Halloween, we come back actually on Halloween.

Now th this does mean I might not be able to get to the kids, so it's been a thing.

Uh I've been with the kids

every Halloween for 18 years since I've had kids for 18 years now.

Um so I've always been there done the trick-or-treating horror's my thing blah blah blah

This time I might struggle to get back because it's I have to go around the M25 on Halloween about three o'clock in the afternoon.

And that's just gonna be a fucking ballake if you know London and the greater London area.

of that road m25's bollocks.

Anyway, that's not interesting.

So no, I might be ended up staying with Sarah possibly, and if so, cheek's treat is coming to us.

And I've never had a Halloween with Sarah before, which seems bonkers.

Um so that'd be quite cool.

So I might be doing that and I might be missing the kids this year.

So yes.

Uh

Yep.

Similarly, I'm away.

Um it's my dad's shout out to Papa Bone.

Not that he listens to the show, but he turned 17.

He turned 17 today.

Big Papa Big Boy.

Papa Bone.

Um he Daddy Bone and he um he turned 17 today.

He turned 70 today.

So next week being half term

for the children, I'll be away for a lot of that because it's also my wife's birthday, uh a few days before Halloween.

So I'll be away for my dad and then I'll be away with my wife with my in laws.

And my p my in laws live in a sleepy little

um suburb where it's a lot of old people in a little cul-de-sac.

So the most we might do is go out and terrorize some old people with my twins.

Maybe dress them as the shining twins.

Maybe dress them as Chucky.

Chucky and Tiffany.

Proper Chuckajan, that's a shame.

I n I know.

I to be honest, I still think they're perhaps a bit too young.

Last year was fantastic.

We we we stood in the doorway handing out

Sweets to everybody that came and my kids absolutely loved it.

My parents when we're not grew up my parents still live in the same house.

I grew up when I grew up.

I was the only one dressed up on a fireworks party because I can't we have a Halloween piece as me dressed up no one else looking at fucking fireworks in the sky.

I'm not a zombie, I don't need to look at lights in the sky

Um let's have a Halloween party and nobody give a shit.

Now my parents' street is fucking wild.

There's like smoke machines and like loads of fucking illuminations, just like

Well older house is doing it, it's like Where's this ship when I was a kid?

It's well.

If anybody is going to any fancy dress parties or or doing anything fun, share it on the Facebook page.

Let's see your costumes.

Let's see what you're dressing as.

Um, you know, a lot of people are doing couples themes and stuff like that.

I love all that kind of stuff.

So yeah, share it on the Facebook page.

We love to see what you're dressing as.

Where where you go in, if you've got cool Halloween decorations in your front garden or in your house, share, share, share.

Let's have a look at what you guys are up to.

Um yeah, I'd love to see all that stuff.

I am DJing this Saturday at a Halloween party down the Cobbit at a local pub.

Um

So yeah, that was fun last year.

Uh you mean your top three Halloween style tracks songs.

Two uh for Halloween party it's all very cliched stuff.

It's obviously Ghostbusters, there's obviously gonna be thriller.

Yeah.

Um I I I got one more but because I had three in my head and you said two of them.

The other one's gotta be the monster mash.

Yeah, I would play that early on, but when later on it when people are drunk and they come in, uh I start going into I'd still doing other stuff.

I do like the ghosts specials.

Um the

Ghost town, you know, um shit like that.

Um 'cause you can.

But I need to speed it up a bit so you start going a bit more.

I might go um some motorhead things like that.

Nothing particular but um

I w not because I don't play Hellraiser by Motorhead or anything, but you just do the classics.

Um there, but people like dancing, so you have to start I don't know.

Or I'll try and record my mix um and then I can we can put it up as a patron episode.

Oh yeah, that'll be great.

If I can uh concentrate on doing that.

You've done that before.

I've been really enjoying it.

You've mixed in John Carpenter, some Argento movies.

Actually we'll do a little try and do a little Halloween mix again, um because I need to practice for before Saturday anyway, so I'll I'll try and do something

Love that shit.

Alright, well we are gonna go to a trailer now for the final fright the final nightmare.

Freddy's dead.

It's not the final nightmare.

Spoiler.

Here we go.

Um here we go.

As a boy, he was always different.

Some 100 million, son of a hundred maybe, son of a hundred magias.

No one understood him.

You ready for it, boy?

It's time to take your medicine.

Thank you, sir.

No one could control him.

Go inside, honey.

But now it's a new beginning.

The beginning of the end.

For Freddie.

Every town has an Elm Street.

Scream it while the bus is in moat!

It's your mind you'll go for.

I'll get you my P and your little soul too.

to hit him with everything we got.

Now I'm playing with power.

We're in Twin Peaks here.

It's gotta be me and him.

You wanna live?

Maggie, watch out!

What's with kids today, huh?

Freddie's dead

The Final Nightmare.

Great graphics.

They've saved the best for last.

Freddy's Dead, the final nightmare, or is it?

No.

From nine from 1991.

Rated R for pirates.

Uh it's only an hour and twenty nine minutes, thankfully.

Um here we go.

Dream haunting Freddy Kruger returns once again to prowl the nightmares of Springfield's.

Sorry, not Springfield.

That's a different place.

Spring Woods, last surviving teenager.

And of a woman whose personal connection to Kruger might be his doom.

Doom.

This is directed by Rachel Talalalala.

Is that is that how you say her name?

Her name is Rachel Talala Lalay.

I like it.

Um Where's Craven is listed as a writer?

uh only because he invented the character and obviously it stars rober england uh thankfully um and also has some random people in it like Brecken Meyer

Who you'll recognize from every 90s movie ever?

Yeah, we did, yeah.

Um he's this was the first movie he was in.

Yafet Koto is in this as well as a cool character called Doc.

Uh Johnny Depp pops up.

I I just need to point out here, Dan's got IMDB going.

I can't activate IMDB, so I'm a little bit blind to stuff, so Dan's gonna have to help me out a little bit here.

That's alright.

Yeah.

Johnny Depp, Roseanne Barr and Tom Arnold also all cameo in this.

This was supposed to be the final one.

This was why these they got the few cameos in it, and that's why Johnny shows up in it as well.

Obviously Johnny was in the original.

the very first movie.

Um the studio had been banging these out, you know, left, right and centre, new line cinema.

And they wanted to go out on a big bang.

The final act of this is in 3D, um, which was a big

It made a slight comeback in the late 80s, early 90s.

This was 91.

And there's a moment in the film where they put on 3D glasses and that's supposed to be your

key as an audience member to put your 3D glasses on and enjoy.

I I sat with a couple of people who I mentioned in a moment who it was for context for uh for the review.

Um

And uh they were like, uh jackin' it's gonna go off it.

It was like there's no way it's just gonna go fucking red and green lines.

That'd be shit.

It can't be.

There must be another version which has that and comes in

Because I I said if it does, I've got some glasses over there, we could quickly put them on.

But there's no way that's gonna happen.

Yeah, there'll be another print of it, just like with jaws.

Not that many people have them glasses lying around.

I'm one of those rare people.

Uh I bet you have.

Uh I don't I don't think I know.

See, so I'm probably a rarity.

Um but yeah, obviously this was supposed to be going out with a bang.

They wanted to kill Freddie off.

once and for all and that was kind of it really but also you know if if you knew it was the final one and the title alone Freddy's Dead it doesn't even say Nightmare on Elm Street

in the title.

They really wanted this to be a special one to end it all really.

Because number five had made a bit of money.

I think number four was one of the highest gross in.

But fives

was was the it was already tailing off a bit.

People were getting a bit bored of this franchise and other franchises.

But they did bring him back, obviously, um and we'll get into that next year.

Uh Wes Craven decided to do

A really dark neck uh that one after this is called.

Um Where's Braven's New Nightmare?

It's got his name attached to the title.

Just like all John Carpenter films and it's a genuinely quite chilling uh movie, but we'll get into that next year.

Ah.

No, I have a special place in my heart for this one.

Um obviously I've realized this what when I posted I was watching this it's got a lot of uh it was getting a lot of online disses and hate.

People seem to really detest this movie.

Now I understand that

I think it's a better movie than number five in some ways.

I think number five is just not a five boring.

No.

But the reason I

have a special place in my heart for this one is this was the second one I ever saw.

The very first one I ever watched, which I've talked about many years ago was number one.

I watched it when I was eight years old at Sleepover.

Number one really got under my skin and I bloody watched it at the same weekend I watched Robocop at the age of eight.

So that was a terrifying weekend for me.

But also

It's also what got me into horror and gore that weekend, I think, from the age of eight.

Um then probably a year or two later, this we we we heard about this one we uh because somebody had told us about the

the hearing aid scene and the scene with the um the video games and somehow we got hold of a copy of this probably about the age of ten, eleven, and we watched this.

And this was the second one I'd watched.

Um

As a ten-year-old, this movie would be extremely appealing because it's like a ten-year-old's mind bouncing around all over the place from seeing the side.

That's my issue with it.

It's got Nintendo video games in it, it's got silly things happening left, right and centre, and it's got some good got some great effects.

You've got to admit the practical effects are fantastic.

They always are.

Freddie Freddie movies always deliver great special effects.

As we said previously, the last year is more like it's a spectacle for the effects artists, like a show reel.

Yeah, uh um I watch it with two people, uh Pete and Tiffany.

Um I'm gonna explain why I'm explaining them for context to some of my notes because they do come into it.

Um Tiffany is um

originally from America now living here and she's been working in the film industry for a long time.

Pete is here, he's English and he's uh but living in America for a long time

He's an actor.

Um, so yes, I watched it with these guys.

They said, Do you want to hang out?

And I was like, you can hang out with me, but I've got to review a movie, so you're gonna have to just but I said you can help me review it.

And we just watch it because sometimes I need a bit of help because I get a bit confused.

Because I Sarah likes to help me with things like that.

Because I generally do you know this listeners from listening to this show like I get a little confused at times.

Um it was my first time viewing.

I can't believe that.

Uh yeah, unless unless I I just blanked out of my mind and it was on Sky Movies once.

There is a slight chance, slight, slight chance, because they did play all those

films.

I think that's how we saw it.

Now you said that you've you've jogged a memory.

Thursday night at 10 was like sky um was horror sky moving.

I think someone someone recorded it for us I think.

More than likely.

Um

Yeah, and um I get to it but that my issue was with this it wasn't literally like every fucking two minutes there's another scene and so fucking hell it's just like it was like ADHD on crack

Uh mixed with a bit of coke, speedballing, driving fucking 300 miles now down the wrong way in uh Ferrari

Well, it was definitely made during the MTV sort of Yeah, it's you know they really went for that.

At the time

You can see and I can understand where you'd be like, oh there's loads stuff and like you feel quite nostalgic to our show there's loads of shit you're like oh man I oh that bit's so good.

Oh I love this bit but it's like

watching Elijah watch YouTube now really.

It was just bing bing bing bing and it was very hard to keep up on.

Um at first ten minutes into it I was like I'm liking this and my notes seem to say I'm quite enjoying this

Then I don't know what happened.

It just went like literally like, come on, no, start editing it like you're fucking insane.

Go.

Okay.

Edit here, edit there, edit here, edit there.

And it's just really hard to keep up on.

Before we get really into it, I think the things it's got going for it are Robert England.

He's always fun to watch.

The special effects, practical effects are great.

But I think the other thing it's really got going for it is it really gives you a proper bit of a backstory into Fred Krueger, why he did what he did.

And it's actually quite dark when you find out.

you know, about his little girl and about what he had in his basement and why he was burnt alive by the parents of Springwood.

Um so it does deliver that quite nicely because up until

this this uh ep entry in the practice, it's been very convoluted, hasn't it?

You've had babies and dream warriors and dream masters and dream childs and all this stuff and it's like just

Give me a storyline.

It doesn't even they don't even have to really all follow on from each other.

Like the Jasons don't really.

They kind of do, but they don't at the same time.

Just give me a group of teenagers.

Let Freddy you know get into their nightmares and rip them apart.

But this one actually gives you quite a nice bit of a backstory for Fred Kruger and it allows

Robert England to be on screen without his makeup a couple of times as well.

Yeah.

Which is quite nice.

Yeah, it it does d it does have those things going for it.

I'm not uh uh the Freddy uh Freddie fan really

Um I like Nightmare Street Part 2.

I think that's the best one.

Um and it does give it chance for uh a young looking Robert, a younger looking obviously Robert England um to do some actual acting.

It's like when um

Kane Hodder did some it in uh um hatchet.

You know, uh without the makeup and stuff.

It's quite nice of them to do that.

Um yeah

Um but, you know, before we get into it, it does suffer from too much too many ideas um at the same time.

Yeah, and it is like the it is the f last it is technically the last one in some ways because the next one is a sort of a meta proto screen movie where it takes place in the real world where they're writing a new

Freddy movie and Freddie is manifested into the real world.

So you've got Wes Craven, playing Wes Craven, you've got all the characters playing actually themselves.

um making this nightground Elm Street movie where Freddie is really even Robert England's in it and he's like Freddie's not real, I'm Freddie, like but then Freddie comes into the real world.

So the next one he's got some incredible ideas, very scream-ish as I say.

And then the after that you have the fun

Freddie versus Jason.

So this is technically the last real proper Freddy movie where he he goes into your nightmares and you know rips you rips you apart if you're a teenager.

And then you've obviously got the remake.

So I get why they were throwing a loads of shit at the wall and seeing what stuck, but what did stick was just shit unfortunately.

Um but I still enjoy this movie and I know a lot of our listeners have voiced their opinion of it.

on Facebook and to me personally and a lot of people have said it's not very good.

I maintain it's not the worst in the franchise.

I maintain it's better.

The number five.

Yeah.

Um

That was not a good great watch for us.

In fact, last year, I can only apologise that you had to listen to us review Halloween 5 and Nightmare on Elm Street 5, two of the probably the worst in the franchises both.

It's it was I was quite annoyed.

It's the only time I were like, we don't have that much time in life to podcast and we're doing this.

There's many a film that needs a conversation.

These do not need it.

Um but uh uh anyway, we will go through this.

Um

Yeah talk about the effects talk about some of the storyline is it's absolutely fine.

Let's crack on.

Uh there's a strange rock song which opens the film.

Um I say strange I don't remember now.

There's so much happens in this movie, my memory's like

So uh you know but apparently I've put a strange rock song opener.

Do you remember the song?

No, I don't remember the song.

Um but I know that I know that there was there was a lot of metal in in this and bands were excited to have their

you know, their music on a a movie like this because Freddy Freddie means money, you know.

It's the way it goes.

So while that's happening, we get a little title card that comes up and says, basically, you know

about a little bit of a backstory about Freddie Kruger and then it says um this all took place in Springwood and this is ten years from now and there are no children left in Springwood.

So the another really interesting idea is that he's won

He's kind of killed off or made all of the children move out of Springwood, so there's only adults living there, which is really interesting.

So what's the next thing?

He he needs to expand his enterprise and he needs to move out of Springwood, doesn't he?

Yeah, so this this film uh could have been a good film if if it was just like actual story you could get into like reading the book rather than it be like flip flip flip next next next

Next next, you know what I mean?

'Cause it 'cause what you're saying is quite a good concept.

Yeah, yeah, totally.

And and how many horror films or or just science fiction have have you seen, like children of men, but there just aren't any children, you know, uh anymore because of a reason.

Yeah.

That's quite a good idea.

Um but yeah, it just goes fucking all over the place, so you can't hone in on that one

Sort of idea and story and point from A to point B.

That's the idea.

What you just said, that should be nice and simple.

Go.

Um now we start really with our first character who's never really named.

He's only ever called John Doe, um, played by John Greenbl uh Sean Greenblatt, because he can't remember his name.

So he's on a plane, he's very anxious about the turbulence.

uh he's ri really sweaty and worried um it's very final destination vibes actually um yeah this is obviously way beyond way before final destination and then there's a little girl that looks over the seat in front of him and says

You're the last one.

He's gonna come for you.

And then an old lady looks at him, not quite like this, and says, Don't be a pussy

Which is quite fun.

Um and and then suddenly the plane just starts ripping apart and he's sucked out of the plane.

And this is where he says, I I was almost out of spring word.

I almost made it.

No.

And he's falling and falling and falling.

And then we get a double bluff because he wakes up again in his bed

And he thinks, oh it was just a dream and he opens the window.

What, Freddie on a fucking broomstick?

Yeah, so my my note here is what the shit?

Like literally minutes into this film, like what the

Sure- Sure you would know this, but you might not actually do this.

I've never seen it.

And I was like, what the hell?

You've never seen the Wizard of Oz.

In a way that this point.

No, I've seen Wizard of O Of course I've seen Wizard of Ones.

Thank fuck.

No, no.

I showed it on the big screen to my kids.

We all sat one day and watched it on the uh projector.

It was great.

Um no no, it was just like what the fuck uh but I was kind of enjoying this what the fuck at the moment

It I could keep I could carry on with it at the moment.

It wasn't too hard to keep up with.

So he opens his curtains thinking that nightmare's over, but obviously he then realizes his house in is in the middle of a to tornado, um, still falling through the air, and then yes, he

He sees Freddy uh as the wicked witch of the West from uh Um The Wizard of Oz and he sort of flies up to the window and he says, Hee hee, I'll get you my pretty, you and your soul And it's like just Robert England having a fucking blast.

The bumblebees starts playing and it's just like I said, what the hell?

Also a little note comes up that says Brian made the music for this and I was like, Oh no.

Yeah, it wasn't that Brimay there, don't worry.

Um which is really strange because Bri May does see the odd score here and there though, that's the thing

But that this isn't the Queen Brian May.

Yeah, yeah, but I mean the Queen Wombers.

Yeah.

Um so he Brian May from Queen has had people over the years

ask him, how come you got involved in um final uh the final nightmare, you know, the final f what's going on?

Then he's like, What are you talking about?

And then he realized there's just happens to be another Brian May out there working in films.

Mainly horror.

So yeah, different Bri May.

It would have been a very cool rock song had it been Brian May at the beginning.

Imagine that.

used to go to a film studio to try and have interviews, meetings and they all you could never get on set.

They'd always be like, no, you're not allowed in off.

And he's like, what the fuck?

And he found out there's another Adam Green who's like banned.

Yeah, it's just just that.

You know.

Fuck say double gangers.

Um so this John Doe guy wakes up again for the third second time.

It uh also at this point here it's felt very Sam Raimi.

Yeah, it does feel some evil dead.

At the moment, I was like it's Final Destination of San Ray.

I'm kind of enjoying this at the moment.

At the moment.

No, no, the reason Gav's saying that I think, listeners, is because

I almost called you Jack then.

Um my son.

You have before.

I know.

And I call Jack Gav sometimes.

It's because I love you both so much.

Um and I've changed both your nappies constantly.

Um true, true.

The reason I think Gab's saying the San Raimi implants is it's very kinetic, the way that the camera is moving, and that's that MTV.

And Sam Raimi invented that style.

You know, that's why he's in my top three horror directors of all time.

He hasn't done an awful lot, but Sam Raimi is solely responsible for that style, that Raimi

crash, bang, wallop, zoom lens, this, that and the other.

And it does have a lot of that going on in this, particularly in this opening scene.

Um and our John Doe now wakes up again and he's outside

the Kruger house on Elm Street, the wrecked house.

Um he trips, he falls down a hill.

It goes on for a very long time with him rolling down this hill.

And then he kind of wakes up and well, sits up and Freddie's he's on a road and Freddie's driving a bus at him.

laughing, scratch c crashes into John.

John's now on the front of the um the bus.

And then we get a really random bit where he sort of does a wily coyote from the Looney Tunes and sort of smashes through the reality.

Yeah.

Into a into a different reality.

So from I guess from the dream reality into a reality.

Yeah, yeah.

And uh again I was gonna I I kind of like this at the moment.

It's really batshit crazy and it's okay.

And then Freddie sort of looks through the hole at the guy lying on the floor and says, Go get him.

Fetch.

There's a good dog.

And basically what we understand now is that this is the last teenager from from Springwood.

he's trying to escape Springwood.

Freddie's managed to get into his nightmare and he sent him out of Springwood to go fetch.

uh and get me more teenagers because I cannot get enough of getting into young teenagers' heads and then sucking them into their waterbeds.

Funny I was thinking about Night Run Elm Street 1 the other day and I was thinking

That scene with Johnny Depp where he gets sucked into his waterbed and then, you know, exploded all over the city, probably the second worst thing he's ever had happen to him in his bed.

Probably uh yeah, uh I think Amber Amber turds probably uh it's probably that little small little one, wasn't it?

I thought someone somewhere has probably made that joke as well, but I thought I had to say that.

on the episode 'cause imagine that when she was there sort of crouched down going, I know what I'm gonna fucking do and like gets up there, takes her underwear off or whatever, crouches down and just just goes

You know But when you're when you're Johnny Depp and you're you're just sort of smoking your weed and drinking your rum and whatever you do, they're like you've probably got like you've got a lot of money and you've got a very clean apartment.

It's probably not the craziest thing's happened to him to be honest.

But when you pull your sheets back

in your for your bed and you're Johnny Depp and you've had a hard way day working on Pirates of the Caribbean twelve.

What?

The last thing you expect is Is that Amber Have you been shooting in the bed again?

And also she's like a gorgeous woman.

Like the last thing you'd expect from her to do is to do a big poo in his bed.

If she's filmed that, I bet she could have made a load of money for that video.

Oh yeah, I bet she would.

I I wouldn't have watched it.

I wouldn't have watched it either.

Wouldn't you?

No.

I was joking.

No, I'm joking.

I wouldn't have forced it.

Um anyway, um so back to back to the movie.

John Doe.

So he wakes up and he's in Springwood.

He's only got a couple of dollars in his pocket, probably about

twenty bucks, it looks like.

And that's the end of the opening really.

So here we go.

We kind of know now that this this is the last teenager.

Like I say, he's out of Springburg.

And this was probably minutes.

This is probably seconds that all this happened because it's like Shh Oh my God

Like, okay, right.

I know.

Now that's start.

Like, I'm not gonna remember any of this.

But okay, here we go.

So we cut two

Brecken Meyer, who again he's been in all the 90s movies, you'll know him.

Um, he plays Spencer and he's in a school when his dad is getting.

Oh, you're on about a road trip.

Yeah, he's I'm gonna call him Road Trip.

Clueless.

Uh a bunch of movies.

Honestly, he's been in so many things.

Call him Road Trip if you want.

So Road Trip's dad is telling him off.

because he's failing at school and he says it looks like it's some kind of boarding school and he says to him if you don't pull your socks up you're gonna go to the army.

They love sending the kids to the army like in Chuck E3.

What's that?

You're not doing well?

80s parenting, isn't it?

Just getting the goddamn army, kid.

Um so we meet him.

We also meet Maggie, who is a teacher slash counsellor of teenagers.

Maggie is played by Lisa Zayn.

She says to Road Trip, look, I believe in you.

I know that you can do well.

Don't worry about your dad.

So that's that little bit as well.

And we also briefly meet a girl called Tracy.

Every Freddy booby has to have a girl usually doing kung fu, sometimes a boy.

Tracy is our kung fu girl.

Um, just so our listeners know, uh guys, she will be coming back at certain points throughout the movie doing kung fu on Freddy Kruger because Kung Fu was big in the late 80s and early nineties and it comes up a lot in Freddy Kruger movies.

Yeah, there's always a ninja or uh someone doing kung fu.

And I always like to have a bit of kung fu in my movies, so we're happy with that.

Um so two cops outside see John Doe and they think he's some kind of um junkie.

So they bring him in into this um sort of place for teenagers.

I guess it's not a school, it's more like a a place where they're trying to

help teenagers get back on the right tracks.

I don't know what you'd really call that.

Rehabilitation centre.

That Yafik Koto works there as we'll find out soon.

Yeah, screwed from Alien and Live and Let Die.

If Yavik Otto was my school counsellor, I would be president of the world right now.

That man is incredible.

I love him.

He's a great actor.

And an incredible voice.

As soon as he came into it, my next note is enjoying the film.

Of course.

Um, Tracy uh also has a friend called um

Uh is it Carlos, the deaf guy?

He's deaf.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Um and this is now we see Tracy in the boxing gym.

Um she's working out and she starts giving Carlos a load of shit and he takes his hearing aid out.

So you can't hear her.

That's what that's what I've always thought.

Um um my dad was issued

A hearing aid, he won't fucking wear it.

So the whole time he can't really hear and I was like I I I know I know 'cause he can't be fucked to do anything.

He had a longtime friend message me through Facebook phone and said, Oh my god, is that your dad?

And I was like, Yeah, oh my god, I've no

yours dad to the told my dad and it's got and my dad's like can't be fucked don't care what I don't care what don't we apply to him

Nah.

And this guy was heartbroken.

Uh and so I've got my theory is that uh he won't get the hearing aid 'cause then he can hear everything again and he'd rather just be denial of everything.

Yeah, my mother in law has is supposed to wear hearing aids and she barely does.

So we'll be sat there on an evening and she just doesn't tune into the conversation.

She just can't be bothered.

She's playing Candrush drinking wine in the corner and we're just like, What do you think of that?

Oh, don't worry, she's not listening to us.

Going around and seeing my uncle the other day, he's like 92 or something like that.

He's the one that got me I went to films with and he's got his film collection and that and I was chatting to, he's got some Stephen Seagal in there.

I was like, oh he's got some Seagal in here

And I was going through his movies.

But I was chatting about one thing and he looked at me and just started talking about something totally different.

My mum's like, no, we're talking about this.

Start to shower at him.

Talk to me about something totally different.

It's like what the fuck?

Um so quickly then with Tracy, she's doing her work out in the gym, further proving that she's a kung fu girl, and she's got a good friendship with Spencer who we've already met and Carlos who is the deaf kid.

Carlos makes a note a little comment.

He says, the last time I disobeyed my parents, I ended up with a disability.

And basically says

somehow and we will fight we will see it later on somehow his parents were the ones responsible for him losing his hearing.

Which is quite dark.

And it is a dark scene when we find out what happened to him as well.

Yes, and then we meet Yafik Kotto.

So Gav's now enjoying the movie.

So Yafik Kotto plays Doc.

uh in this.

Not Doc Brown, that would have been a great movie if Yavit Cotto was uh was in Back to the Future, wouldn't it?

Yeah.

Fantastic stuff.

Um and it would have been Bill Bill Paxton as uh Marty McFly

Oh, imagine that.

That would be so good.

Um, so we see uh a poster in um well they're discussing, so Yavik Koto is in charge of helping the kids and he says, I've got a new idea.

about how to help these kids and I think we can we can do something called dream therapy where we can help them access what they're dreaming about and this will really help them in unlocking their potential and you know getting back on the right

tracks.

This is all bad bad news in the night round Elm Street film.

He's got a big poster on his wall, like a big picture of

And he talks about this to Maggie.

He says this is this is the dream demon.

These big snakes represent these dream demons and basically they can

They've got power to make dreams a reality.

Now, spoiler, it turns out that these demons are the ones that actually gave Fred Kruger his power years ago.

Um

Even though they look like weird little demon sperms towards the end of the movie.

And that must have been terrifying in 3D.

Have a giant sperm spying at your face.

Yeah, right.

But yeah, so he's he's got this idea about dream therapy.

Can't be good i in this kind of movie.

Um then they bring in John Doe uh and they examine him.

And he says that I haven't slept in about three days.

I don't know who I am.

Can't remember anything.

Um all I can tell you is I think I was the last of wherever I'm from.

And he says, what does that mean?

And he says, I don't really know, but I need to stay awake.

I need to stay awake for as much as long as possible or I'll die.

Get me some carpet c uh some coffee, get me some caffeine, get me some sugar.

So that's John Doe.

Little flashback for us now.

I love the fact he's sit he's in in in the bed dorm with the other lads and he's singing away.

Uh 99 bottles but doing it for 99 million bottles or whatever.

And they're like, shut up!

Throwing pillows in it.

So annoying.

A little flashback, just briefly, of Fred

Old Frederick Kruger in his garden and he's playing with a little girl.

Um and then uh uh we hear a scream.

And then the flashback's kind of over.

So we'll revisit this and it'll extend and extend and extend until we see the full context of this as the movie goes on.

Um my note here, Pete is struggling with it jumping all over the place.

Not long after my night saying I quite enjoyed it, he was always struggling, I looked him and he was so my fucking god

Uh now John is lying in his bed, John Doe, uh, and he's uh blood starts dripping on him from the ceiling and he realizes, God damn it, I'm in a dream, I've fallen asleep, and this is a dream.

And he sees a little girl and he says, Tell me tell me who I am That is the fun sorry to cut you off.

That is the fun and also the bad thing about Nightmare and Elm Street movies.

You don't know what's real and what's a dream so you can't

ever be actually terrified like scared because you're like oh it's probably just a dream but um the fun of it is the fact that he can get you in a dream so it has to be dreams all the time because that's the crux crux of his his killing sp

wave he kills his MO, so to speak.

So um I think that's also to its depriment at the same time though, 'cause it you start to get like a dream.

Is it real?

Is it a dream?

Is it real uh and it's comes a bit tiring.

It's

Uh with these movies it's gotta be less is more and the first two three films.

So many dreams.

Have it more of an actual f event when it happens rather than go, go, go, go.

The first two, part one and part two, they only had a couple of nightmare sequences.

Um we actually saw what was happening to the people who were were asleep while other people who were awake were watching them.

And that because it was less

sequences it was more terrifying and then the third one needed to go crazy because it was the Dream Warriors and they went into the Dream to fight Freddie and that was badass and cool.

And then I think four and five kind of slips a little bit because it was too much

So I like two.

Part one establishes part three they're starting to get into proper law and it's more they start to really develop three.

But part two feels like it's the in-between

Not really, it's like Freddy is he's there, he's more of an evil presence, he's not really an actual person you know yet, it's just still a scary entity.

And you don't know much about him unless it's Morgan, you know, it's more frightening it is.

Uh I quite like that, I think.

Part two is incredible, um, and obviously a as the

As the years have gone on, a lot of people have really s realised that that is one of the best entries.

For a lot of reasons, obviously it's it's a queer coded film.

It's it's you know, a a lot of the characters, the gu the act the actor is in that, especially the music.

Yeah, it's got loads of it.

And as two straight men, we can still really enjoy that and none

No, un spooky and creepy.

Did they?

No.

I feel like that must be some sort of joke you must have all known.

Well the actors, you know, they are gay, the actors, innit, some of them.

And uh so they would have kind of

But i i I've been having a snigger probably like this is quite funny that that we can do this, but but over the years it's been celebrated as a as a queer horror film, uh you know, which is great and

It's still one of the best entries in in in way ahead of its time in many ways.

Go back and watch part two guys.

I borrowed uh the box set uh Blu-ray box set from Ben um uh to watch this actually, so I'm looking forward to watching that.

Funny enough, he also lent me the Halloween box set because I didn't have the I used to have the

Had I mean six, but he his box set says the ultimate box set, right?

And it goes one, two, three, four, five, seven.

Uh no, yeah.

And it missed six.

And it's like that's really weird.

That is weird.

I wonder if it's uh some rights CERN somewhere else.

Because you obviously had the producer's cut and no other movie had a producer's cut, so I reckon the producers might have had more rights and they're like, Nope, you're not having that film for your collection.

I don't know.

That's so annoying.

Um so back to John Doe.

He's in this dream and he sees a little girl who says, and it turns out that again spoilers, but this little girl is Freddie's little girl, and she says to him

I won't tell.

And he's like, tell me who I am.

She says, I won't tell.

He follows her and then he sees himself in a padded cell.

He wakes up and then breaks a window.

And sort of everybody in the the institute is like, oh

Christ, this guy's crazy, what's going on here?

So Maggie takes the.

Yeah, that's sorry, yeah.

He pushes the window.

If I was that guard, I would have been fucking

the fucking livid and he's like oh oh kid it's just like what if I was pushed through a window I'd be so unhappy.

By a sleepwalking teenager.

Yeah um and it it just and uh

As soon as it happens, he says asshole to the kid and then it the edit it's cut straight away and it's just straight away then I was like man this seems why is that cut so because I edit films why is that cut so sharply?

And um I think they probably had really longer cuts of this film which was better and then they were like, No, chop chop chops, it's a shame nowadays with long form content you could probably watch a longer version and get more into the film possibly.

I don't know.

Well Maggie sits John Doe down and asks him about his dream and she asks him about his memory or lack of memory and she then reveals

She's been having the same nightmare or same dream about a little girl as well.

Um and she says, I've got an idea.

I think we need to go on a road trip to jog your memory.

And he's like, I don't know if I really want to jog my memory.

She's like, no, no, we're gonna go to Springwood.

So I got a feeling that's where we're gonna get some answers.

Why?

Why are they always just gonna go back there?

Don't go back there.

That's like saying let's go back to Camp Crystal Lake and see if we can find out what's going on there.

Let's go back to where you had your trauma

And that's like you don't wouldn't do that or let's just take a van from the institute and then we just go no one has to come with us, just me and you.

Surely you'd have another person there too.

It's just I don't know.

When I watched this movie, uh I had a bit of a crush on

on Mag um Lisa Zane who plays Maggie Burroughs.

I would have gone anywhere with her at the age of twelve or whatever I was.

Wow.

Probably still wouldn't know.

Yeah, but go anywhere with a the pedo, the ladies.

Jesus.

Uh so they arrive at Springwood

Um they nearly crash the van, they swerve, and all of a sudden it's revealed that Spencer, Tracy and Carlos have hitched a ride for shits and giggles in the back of the van.

And then I what the fuck are you all doing in here?

Oh I'm gonna get in so much trouble with the with Doc with Jaffic Cotto for I'm I'm not even supposed to take this one out and I've got all four of you here.

This is ridiculous.

So yeah, she's she's brought four teenagers.

To Springwood, which is great because Breddy is she just puts her foot and a break a bit in the van there, oh and uh all these kids uh come out at the same time, so oh here they are and so

They I do like when they pop into town there's a circus in town, there's literally no kids, it's just old people on the rides.

I thought that was a really creepy thing.

Again, yeah, going back to what I said at the start, no children.

Quite cool.

See that skip and it's it's like that chuck sort of children of the corn or village of the dam type thing.

So they get to and like Gav says, there's a carnival happening.

And then oh cool, a carnival clowns rides and then everyone's staring at them because they're under the age of like twenty-one or whatever, you know, they're young.

See

And

They sort of one of them says, Hang on a minute, have you noticed there's no children here?

And then Roseanne Racist Barr comes over and says, Oh my god, children, I love you so much.

You're gonna come live with me.

I'll look after you, come and live with me, come and live with me

He'll never find you, I promise it'll never happen again.

Comes out and starts chatting away.

He says, He says to her, for God's sake, woman, we don't want to be around kids.

You know, he'll uh uh it attracts him

If there's kids around, he'll be coming for em.

Leave him alone.

Come on.

And he to drags her off.

And that's a big thing.

Um Tiffany Tiff told me that she worked on a movie with Tom Arnold.

She said one day came up to her really, really sweaty.

And he wanted a ham sandwich.

Can I have a ham sandwich?

I need a ham sandwich.

Well

And Sharon Stone said, Here is a ham sandwich for you, Thomas.

Sharon Stone showed him a ham sandwich.

Now there's a great line here where one of them says when there's after this Roseanne incident, one of them looks at the other one and says

I feel like we're in Twin Peaks here, which is a great little little quote really.

Um she so Maggie says to Spencer, Carlos and Tracy, right, you guys get the get in the van and drive back to the institute.

I don't know why, because I don't know how her and John Doe are gonna get back, but she says, just go back before there's any more trouble.

Me and John are gonna go and have a look around this spooky town with no children where a Roseanne bar could have cost us at any time.

So they get in the van, Carlos finds a map.

When where's the point of running from smoking?

And then they say stop smoking

Spencer smoking this is now.

And she says gone.

Go you got go for it.

Well she says, um well stop smoking.

He says it makes me relax.

She says, I can make you relax with these two fingers.

At that point there I was like

Okay.

So what are you gonna do to make him relax with them two fingers?

And she actually means to stab him in the neck.

Yeah, with her pressure points, cause she's a full-blown martial artist.

I thought she's gonna put it up his bum and I don't know if that would help if she relaxed him.

Depends on who you are.

Well, we've seen it happen to um Stifler in one of the American Pie movies.

So when I was watching Return of Living Dead the other day, I was just like, oh my god, ooh, baby

Ooh baby.

Ooh, baby.

Fantastic, absolutely fantastic scene.

Um

So when they're in the van and they're smoking, they're telling Spencer to quit smoking weed and Carla says, I don't want a hit of it.

I've only I've already got one sense missing.

I I need all my senses I've got.

How have I

This is this movie so like so much gets cut out of this.

Are those kids now stolen the van?

No, she told them to go back.

Right, okay.

She told them to go back.

So so they're in the van

And we get a fantastic Blair Witch moment now where they're driving and trying to get out of the town of Springwood and every time they drive they end up back in the same spot.

She's trusting to get out.

The kids have hitched their own way there.

To just take the van back to where they were busting out of.

Yeah.

Fucking hell, that's a very trusting teacher, isn't it?

Now Maggie sees a huge chalk drawing of Freddy on the road and sort of looks at that and goes, hmm, this is weird.

And John's like, I recognise that.

That man.

Now in the van, back to the van, they're stuck like I said, they're stuck in a loop and they say to Carlos, Can you get the map?

and tell us what it says on the map.

He starts unfolding the map and the map just keeps unfolding and unfolding and unfolding.

Until he's kind of drowning in paper in the back of the van.

And uh

Eventually finds a little bit of the map that says you're fucked on it.

Well I always loved this bit as a kid.

Uh because then he wakes up, you realize you make it sound a lot more fun than it was watching.

So he wakes up and then realizes that map bit was all a dream.

And Tracy says to him, for God's sake, Carlos, did you fall asleep?

What does the map say?

And he says, the map says we're fucked.

And it's just a great little moment because that's literally what the map had said in his dream.

Someone had written on it, you know.

But so Spencer says, I'll drive, let me have a go at getting us out of this town.

There's another scene uh we see a teacher just teaching no one.

I presume they do this delusional all day long.

Like it, which is quite again quite a creepy thing if you could just keep with this oh more, I feel

Yeah, 'cause Maggie and John, they enter the school.

Obviously there's no children in the in the Tina Springwood anymore.

They enter the school and as as Gab said, there's a teacher, they see him, there's just empty chairs, and he's addressing the whole class, he's saying, and that's why chapter one of

And then he starts saying, This is Freddie 101 and he's teaching no one about Freddie.

So they go in the room, he doesn't seem to notice them initially, and he's they do notice that there's loads of

newspaper clippings of children that have gone missing or murdered all around Springwood.

And then they see a little bit of paper that said Freddie had a kid.

Um that was taken from him.

So they're getting a bit more backstory on Freddie now.

The teacher kind of speaks to them a little bit, but he's frightening man with a big stick in his hand, so they don't hang around too long there.

It's night time and the van is still driving around.

They still can't get out of Springwood.

Um so they find an empty house.

Oh boy, they pick the wrong house, Gab, haven't they?

Um so they said, let's go inside this old abandoned house for shelter.

for the night.

When they enter the house it turns into the Elm Street house.

They don't see this of course but the outside of the house that kind of transforms and they've accidentally walked into Freddy's house.

Oh dear

So they explore the house.

They all go off in separate directions.

Oh dear.

And Carlos finds a bed upstairs and he says, brilliant, I'll take a nap.

A nap?

Are you serious?

Like you're lost.

Yeah.

And now's the time to take a nap.

Yeah.

On an old dusty bed.

Anything could have happened on it.

And he he b he bangs the dust a bit and you're like, I don't know, you either

Don't bang it and just kinda get on there and try not to breathe that dust in.

If you have to just go sleep on some skanky old bed or bang it the dust out of there and leave the room and go back in and get Hoover, dust it, fucking s knock the sheets out.

But yeah.

You don't want to be the sleeping.

Don't get me wrong.

Don't get me wrong.

I was gonna say, I I've been at house parties in some terrible places and just slept on anything sometimes because I've been far too inebriated to bother.

caring where I'm sleepy.

I woke up naked in a tent once in someone's back garden.

I didn't know where my clothes had gone and it turns out my my my girlfriend at the time, her friend's mum

had undressed me because I'd been sick all over myself after too many tequila shots.

It was a cowboy and Native American party and

I was a cowboy and I'd been dare to do loads of tequila shots, but I was also chewing chewing tobacco, which is incredibly strong, and smoking cigars.

And it had made me incredibly sick.

I'd passed out all over and vomited all over myself apparently.

And that meant a 60-year-old woman had had to undress me, a 25-year-old man.

down to my pants uh and I woke up in a tent in someone's back garden so yeah I've slept in some terrible places.

Yeah.

Now Carlos is asleep.

Which means it's dream time.

And we get his backstory about how he lost his hearing.

So he's walking along.

He's a weird place, lots of lots of people down the back alley, and then he hears, Carlos, come here boy.

And it's his mum.

She gives him a good slap around the face.

And then she says, You don't listen to me.

I think I'll need to clean out your ears and she pulls out the biggest Q-tip or cotton bud as we call them in the UK that you've ever seen.

It's probably about a foot long.

Um and it's actually Freddie.

She turns into Freddie and she shoves this q-tip into Carlos's ear.

Now

This is a bit of a oh I can't imagine I'm asking but it's hurt because sometimes if I'm cleaning my ears with a Q-tip or a cotton blood and you push it in too much it hurts doesn't it?

But imagine this going all the way into your brain.

And then he pulls obviously he pulls it out the other side, which is, you know, not really r um realistic, but this is a dream.

And then he cuts off his his ear.

Um and then we he can't hear anything.

We just hear it's a cool sort of sound production now where there's loads of muted sound.

Uh it's in enhanced, uh uh everything's really enhanced for him, isn't it?

Well that that's in a moment.

That's when he gives him the Yeah yeah.

So first of all he's dead.

Then he he falls into a boiler room and then Freddy throws his his

ear back down to him with his hearing aid on it and he puts it on but the hearing aid is now like kind of a demon sort of monster hearing aid.

It's like it goes to spinal tap 11.

It's a cust it's amplified.

So all the drips and all the steam are deafening him because it's all so loud.

And then Freddie drops he goes shh he drops a pin

And he catches it.

He catches it, yeah.

And he drops a load of pins and yeah.

And then there's a really cool practical effect where Freddy appears next to him with a little tiny chalk board

And he stretches it out and stretches it out.

And it's like a magician's trick.

It's all inscreen.

And he does and does and does it until it's a normal size chalkboard.

And then he gets his claws and he goes.

Although everyone hates that noise anyway.

Yeah.

And Carlos's nose starts bleeding, but the louder this claws go, um his head just explodes.

And then Freddie gives one of his classic one-liners, he says, nice hearing from you, Carlos.

Which I think is just it's just so good.

And yeah, Carlos is dead, his head exploded in his dream, and that's the end of Carlos.

So Uh we find Road Trip sitting on a sofa hallucinating from smoking a joint.

Don't know how this happens.

I think he's having a bit of a whitey, isn't he?

He's he's done a bit too much.

I don't know.

I still don't know how you hallucinate like this and he's watching like an old TV, but he's watching actually cars on the TV, which is quite incredible really.

Yeah, Tracy finds the hearing aid and she thinks, well, where the hell is Spencer?

Where the hell's Carlos then?

And like you say, Spencer is really stoned watching

Soul all I can say is he's watching souls on TV.

There's just loads of souls that go help me and then one of the souls is Carlos and he's like

Hey man, hey, Spencer, come on man, are you stoned again?

Wake up man, Freddie's here.

He's got me.

He's already got me, man.

And Spencer's just like

Hey Carlos, how did you get on the TV?

And then he starts falling asleep.

Um cut back to Maggie and John briefly.

Um they're in the school.

They see another teacher um with um

uh uh uh in another class and she's she remembers them.

She says, I remember you two.

Um you're something to do with Freddy Krueger.

Um and then John tweaks, he says

And this is kind of a nice sort of red herring here because John says, it's me.

I'm Freddie Krueger's son.

That's what the link is.

But obviously it's actually going to be Maggie

That is Freddie Krueger's daughter.

So that's quite a nice little red herring in one of the few things that this film does right, really, is it throws the audience off briefly.

So Tracy

Goes back outside with the van and she she's says to Maggie and John, look, Carlos is missing.

Spencer's wasted on the sofa.

You've got to come and help me.

So sh they they go back to the house the crazy Kruger house now Spencer's watching TV and here we get Johnny Depp pop up for a little cameo

Now we didn't get this advert this commercial in the UK, but there was a very famous um commercial in the US which was This is your brain on drugs.

This is your brain, this is your brain on drugs, and they fry an egg and it was kind of to put the kids off doing drugs.

And that's obviously what Johnny Depp does.

He cracks an egg and says, This is your brain on drugs, which is ironic because Johnny Depp's known for doing quite a lot of drugs in his heyday.

Is this still representative of weed though?

Because is this guy's hallucinating, he's only smoked drugs.

I think th the the commercials were more about like the speed the speed balls that Johnny and River Phoenix love doing together.

I know.

Well weed always gets a bad rap.

I mean weed is is still um a drug, but it's not the drug that people make out it is in some movies and TV shows.

It's like uh it it's as relaxing as a cigarette or you know is it it can it can make you feel like a good strong coffee or whatever you want from it really.

You know, but that's it.

But it's certainly not gonna kill you.

But anyway, Johnny does his thing and then Freddie pops up behind him with the frying pan and smashes his face in, um, which is fun.

And then we get a butt Davis and butthead scene.

Yeah, with Freddy, which was quite funny.

Um and then um Road Trip goes into Mario Land well, doesn't he?

Because he falls asleep.

Yeah, he gets pulled into the TV.

Basically Mario Land

Just as the others arrive, um, so they don't see him and he's he's in a video game and he's a little character in like basically like a Mario Brothers type game and Freddy's the controller, he's got the controller and

He said, it's his dad is the the final boss and his dad used to beat him up, or he says, Be like me, be like me, be more like me.

So he's got to fight his dad uh in this game and then Freddy says all these quotes from Nintendo like, Now you're playing with power which is So

a Nintendo quote from the eighties and nineties.

Um I think you could spend a power glove as well Nintendo.

He does get the power glove, yeah, because he says um

I've got the power glove.

And it's obviously his clues are part of it as well.

So it's it's quite fun sequence.

This is a movie of its time.

Yeah, very much.

Very much.

Um in the real world we'll see we see Spencer, who's obviously in his dream and he's bouncing up and down, headbutt in the ceiling.

It looks mental really.

It doesn't look that

I think when I watched this as a kid, that was amazing, but it's not done as well now.

And he starts headbutting a brick wall, um, bouncing up and down.

And then there's a a Nintendo version of Freddy on the screen starts beating him up as well.

And John Doe says, hey, it's alright, I know what to do.

I'll go into his dream and help him.

Um, because Spencer's currently smashing into ceilings and walls.

So

He's now how you gonna do that?

And he says to Tracy, knock me out.

And she's like, what?

And he's like, knock me out.

So she gives him an almighty uppercut.

Kung Fu Girl.

Yeah.

And he goes flying through the air, lands on a table and vanishes, and he's gone into the dream world.

Um, and then she appears instantly and he's like, What?

How are you in here?

She's like

Told you there are easier ways of doing it.

I sh I can meditate.

What is she gonna do?

Fucking t all of a sudden go wrong.

It's about to teach you to meditate.

They need to get in there right now.

So uh I like her idea, but she she he his idea works for him, her idea works for her.

I love it.

I love that she just knocks him out.

It's brilliant.

So they will try and fight Freddie.

And they fall down, he falls downstairs into a hole.

Sorry.

Spencer falls down and stars into a hole and and seems to die and then we see his soul leave his body, a bit like Mortal Kombat, and then it's Freddie grabs it and sucks another soul and he's obviously he's collecting these souls.

Um so tr it's Tracy's turn now.

What does she do?

She gets her kung fu out.

So she starts kung fu and Freddy, but Maggie wakes her up before anything can really go down.

And it turns out that John uh John's still alive, so they drag John into the van and they drive off.

So all that's left now is John Doe, Maggie the teacher, and Tracy the Kung Fu girl.

And they drive off

Uh and John is still in a bit of a dream.

He he's in the house which now blasts off into space.

I don't know why his dreams involve his house being up in the sky.

And this point I'm completely like, oh it's just too much to carry taking.

And then his bed catches fire, he jumps out of a window, and then Freddie cuts the parachute ropes and he says uh he says I'm I know who you are, you're my father, and Freddie's like

I ain't your daddy's son.

And he cuts the ropes of the parachute.

He's gonna go, he falls onto a bed of nails.

So that's kind of cool.

He says to him, but you did bring me my daughter.

And it's a really cool scene because as he's falling we get this hilarious Looney Tunes style moment where Freddy peeps into the frame of the screen.

And then he drags out this huge bed of nails, like um like something uh the the the coyote would do.

And the k yeah, the kid lands on the bed of spikes and dies in real life.

But as he's dying, he manages to speak um a little bit And

But to them he still says, I I know i but he never manages to quite say what it is until Maggie that she's the daughter.

And then his self soul flies away as well.

So that just leaves our two girls, uh Maggie and Kung Fu Tracy.

Um he somehow enters Maggie's body now, Freddie.

Which is I don't know.

I've checked out already.

So they drive off and

Maggie, um they get back and Maggie tells her boss that the kids all ran away.

Um and he says, what kids?

And she says, you know, Spencer

She's trying to basically cover herself.

She's not, you know, Spencer, Carlos, and he's like none of those names have ever checked into this institute, Maggie.

What on earth are you talking about?

And it all seems a bit off.

It's like they've been erased.

S

And they actually say Freddie isn't just killing people, he's erasing them from existence.

So Tracy goes to tell Yafik Koto what's happened.

And he's like, well I'm the only one that I don't know why.

I'm the only one that remembers because I'm Yafet fucking cotters.

Yes, but he's a good big sort of name to get in it, you know.

He carries a certain weight and presence.

Um

But he says I the reason I remember these children that have vanished and been erased is because I this is the worst line in it and it's delivered by Afrika.

This exp this is supposed to explain everything.

He says, There's a reason I remember them.

I can control my dreams.

Right.

I just don't buy that at all.

It's just like another problem with this, because they made it chopped it down so quickly.

For the time, like you say, it's definitely in the era of

kids watching MTV and it being like that.

So that that that's what they're going for.

Absolutely no damn.

Make it more like MTV.

You can imagine a producer saying to the editors going, uh okay.

The thing is this

there's quite often there's no establishing shots outside of where they are.

So you so there jumps into a scene and they're talking, you're like, where are they?

So you're you're a little behind trying to play catch up.

For me, for my first time viewing

At times I I don't know where they are now.

Oh where are they now?

Uh okay, you know.

And and the problem is is that these movies weren't made to be broken down thirty-five years later by us.

They were made to get bums in seats, eat popcorn, done.

And and the home video market I suppose at this point.

Yeah.

And people might have revisited them a few times, you know, uh and then the next one would come out and then you can see that.

But either way, um he can control his dreams.

We get a small flashback now of Maggie and it turns out Maggie has got some childhood trauma

Could they be linked?

Could the Freddy flashbacks and the Maggie flashbacks be linked?

We'll find out in a moment, dear sweetness.

She goes to see her mum to ask her mum

uh you know what what can you tell me about dad that kind of thing um tracy's in the boxing gym working out and yafit kotos in there and he's like you gotta prepare your body and prepare your mind as well

It's like the karate kid at this point.

It is, yeah.

Must learn balance down your son.

You might as well just say that to her.

We don't see him at any point.

He's never done any fight with Freddie or somebody just established that he knows everything about it and it but he's not gonna join them or anything or he's actually gonna help them.

He's just gonna teach them and you go do it

Now Tracy goes to sleep and we get um more of the garden flashback with with Freddie.

Now Freddie's wife, Fred Kruger's wife, has found something in the basement.

She's horrified about it.

Um and she says to Freddie, I won't tell, I won't tell anyone what I found.

And he's like, mmm, okay.

And the little girl starts skipping around.

um the garden and he says, come with me, wifey, and he takes his wife over.

And the little girl, seeing the basement door opens, decides to go down into the basement.

And this is where the little girl, who is Maggie, finds the murder shrine, the child murder shrine that Fred Kruger seems to have in his basement.

He's got a glove with

knives on it, he's got newspaper trick cuttings and things he's collected from all the children he's he's killed over the however long it's been.

And Maggie is dr in it as herself, as an adult in this dream, but in a child's dress as she relives it, which is a bit weird, but it happens.

She finds out her real name was Catherine.

Um and then she hears a voice say, They took you away from me.

Um it's an exhausting film to keep up with.

And then he says every town has an Elm Street, and then she wakes up.

And there's a flashback with her dad being abusive to her.

Sorry, this is Tracy now.

Tracy has a flashback to her dad.

It's awful again, really dark child abuse.

He walks in and he's like, come and give your daddy some honey.

And she beats him to death with a kettle.

And this is why Tracy is such a badass Kung Fu is because

She killed her dad with a kettle, basically, who was sexually abusing her.

Fair plain to her um for doing that.

A kettle of all things

Um and his face is all mushed in and then he turns into Freddie, so she kung fuos him a bit more um and then she wakes up.

Um

And she says, let's go talk to Doc.

Because Doc will know what to do.

Yeah, I think Cotto's always got the answers.

Let's go see him.

Um

And Doc, uh, Freddy faces Doc.

When they go into the room in the background there's a uh a Christian Hossai skateboard sitting

In the back, which is which is a really fucking cool board.

It's it's it's very well known in the skateboard world.

Uh and I was like, sweet, look at that motherfucker.

That was uh exciting for the moment for me

Um doc gets a baseball bat and smashes Freddie in the face.

And Freddie says, The the uh the dem the de dream demons are the ones that gave me my power.

And then an alarm clock wakes up just in time.

Um, so he's gone in and done his own investigating Yafik Koto and into the dream world and realized, okay, now I know where he got his powers from.

I'll get together with Maggie and and Tracy and we'll sort this guy out.

So they say to him, Well, what's the plan?

He says, Well there's a I think we can pull him out.

Uh if one of you is holding him, one of us is holding him when we wake up, we'll pull him into the real world and then he's mortal and then we can kill him.

Now this has been done in the past where they brought his hat back and things like that.

So this is kind of a staple of of the law.

Um Maggie says, well, I'll be the dreamer.

Um and Yafikoto says, well you'll need something.

And all the people currently in the audience in 1991 are wondering why the fuck are we they giving me

3D glasses with my popcorn.

Well this is the reason because Defecato says there's one thing you can use when you're in the dream world.

that will give you power.

It could just be a normal thing.

Hmm.

Oh here, try these 3D glasses.

When you put these on in the dream world, they'll give you powers.

And that is the sign for everybody watching this in the theatres

with 3D glasses to put them on when she puts them on.

Because the last twenty five minutes of this is all in 3D glasses.

And I said, I've got something to say, but they wouldn't do that 'cause that'd be really mean to everybody else who ha doesn't have them.

Yeah, because me and you watched Friday the thirteenth part three.

I tried to, but it gave me a headache so we stopped.

Yeah.

Uh and uh I did watch Jules 3D on television.

They

They they gave away.

God.

Yeah.

Yeah, I watched that.

I remember that I remembered watching it and couldn't watch it.

I was too scared.

It was on BBC One and um the Radio Times magazine had um Yeah man get it read last year.

They

I'm surprised you remember that because when it happened it was

Long time ago.

Well, they were doing such a promotion about it.

They were giving them away in Kellogg's corner.

I must have been about six.

You must have been about five.

Yeah, I do remember it.

Yeah.

I and it just didn't really work.

So we watched the same uh we watched the same movie that night.

How funny.

Yeah.

Um so yeah, she puts on the glasses uh and the dream the deem dream demon poster sort of becomes alive that with the snakes on it that we mentioned earlier.

She walks into it and she's sort of inside Freddy's mind now.

And this is where

The the the demon sperms are flying around these these dream demons that look like giant sperms.

And she ends up in a big one.

Got the young Freddy a hammering a hamster in a classroom.

That's that's right.

So she she's in his memories, in his mind.

So the first one she sees is um him killing his class hamster, um which is great.

Um

Just in front of the whole class.

All those kids must have been traumatized.

Because he just he uses a great big hammer as well.

You just hear this little squeak, squeak as he's smashing it to pieces.

Um and then we cut to Freddie's dad beating him

And uh Freddy loves the punishment.

He's been cutting himself with razors anyway.

And he says, time to take my medicine, gone and dad, beat me.

Um

And then we see the parents burn Freddy to death as well.

And then little Maggie sees her dad kill her mum.

So that whole flashback in the garden, it turns out that

Basically, the mother, Freddie's wife, fanged the murder shrine.

He strangled her and beat her to death in the garden

in front of Maggie.

Maggie then went into the basement and saw the murder shrine as well.

And then they come on.

Alice Cooper's is dad, by the way.

That's right.

Alice Cooper was

Reddy Kruger's dad, that's right.

I've got that.

That's another cameo.

I don't think he's even credited.

It's not on IMDB but it probably is somewhere right down the bottom, but that's pretty cool.

When Alice Cooper turns up.

Because he does show up in a few horror movies here and there.

Um so yeah, she's had a pretty traumatic childhood and it's all comes flooding back to her now.

Uh they start to wake up Maggie now because she grabs hold of Freddie.

Um

And they manage to grab some machete and a load of weapons and they go hunting for Freddy.

They find him with no burns on his face.

And he does a bit of a double bluff here, like he tries to explain, you know, and get them on side.

Oh, I didn't know, I didn't mean to do any of this.

It's the demons, they possess me.

But then they realize he's just trying to get them

close to them so that you can fuck them up.

So they fight him, they fuck him up a bit, um, they throw some ninja stars at him, because this is 1991.

Yeah.

And the ninja stars pin him to the wall

Um then Maggie puts on the glove because she's his daughter and she tricks him now because he's like, try it on, honey, and daddy will show you how it works.

I'll show you the family business.

And he thinks, great, my daughter's gonna start.

the n the new generation of, you know, the Freddie Kruger, if she's gonna be doing it, Katherine Kruger is gonna go around killing people.

But she tricks him, she puts glove on, but she uses it to stab him.

And then she shoves a pipe bomb into him because earlier on they confiscated some pipe bombs off of Spencer.

And this was the big finale in 3D.

Just before he explodes, he looks at the camera and says, huh.

Kids.

Explodes everywhere.

It's just like Jules 3D.

Um he explodes everywhere.

Dr demon sperms come flying at the screen.

Bits of Freddy, the glove.

They all wake up.

And one of them says, Freddy's dead.

And then the end credits uh go.

And there's a song called Freddy's Dead that plays over the end credits.

Freddy's dead

And shows of clip montage clips of other Freddie movies which probably makes you go, I wish I was watching those ones.

I did put that.

Why am I not watching these ones?

That's why you should never do that.

Weirdly it also reminded me of the Cannibal Run when they kind of showed the

Clips from the game.

That's alright, that gamble runs great.

But that was the final nightmare for these days.

Hey fuck for that over.

Sorry, f sorry, sorry though, fans of it.

I do apologize.

I you know I will always have a soft spot f

for it, but it is definitely the second worst entry for me after number five.

I think you both you and I both agree five is worse than this.

Yeah.

Um at least this one's got some functions and ideas.

It's just been butchered in the edit so much.

Yeah, it's crazy.

It's two pages.

If you were to read the script as this was edited

Every page you'd be next scene and it wouldn't uh start up with establishing shot.

It wouldn't show it'd just be like straight in you'd be like Well oh oh we're here okay and then beef just as soon as you start getting settled you

D we flipped the scene again, so yeah, it was it's hard work for myself anyway.

I think it I think it's very clear that Newline had really given up on trying to

Yeah.

Make a good Freddy film with this point.

Obviously I think this is probably they're fucking scraping a barrel here.

And that's why next time I haven't seen it, but next time we're going

We're starting to go into a new realm of horror, really.

Yeah, I cannot make a lot of people.

I know about it, but I don't know it.

So yeah.

It's it's in my top four Freddy movies, the next one.

This one isn't um but yeah we've only got two Freddy movies left really it'll be night New Nightmare and then Freddy vs.

Jason and then we've done done with the franchise um

But thanks for bearing with us guys.

I mean it's not a bad film, you know, I I I would give it if you're a completist, I'd say watch it.

I wouldn't bother recommending it.

I'd say there's plenty of other nightmare on El Street movies that are much better.

One, two and three and seven are probably the best.

best um go watch those ones um you can skip for the five and six but if you want to see this one

So be it.

Yeah, if you die hard, uh or you're like, oh fuck it, let's do a fucking Freddy marathon at Halloween all day long we could do Freddy and we were not really paying attention, but could walk in and out of the room, people are gonna turn around, we're gonna hang out, we're gonna

Smoke and drink and just pie.

Uh you could put this on the background and just look at it and go, look at that.

But yeah, I'm not gonna recommend it for if you've got the moment to sit and watch a horror movie.

I sh I think you could probably find something more.

Better to watch.

Unless you aren't nostalgic and you have the foot box set and you just fucking love Freddy, then then then you probably dig it.

I have got the box set, but it's only one to five in the box set.

That's true.

Um, but I bought this one separately and I probably aren't gonna I'm not gonna keep it.

I think I'll I'll probably lose number six and just keep one to five.

Yeah, Sarah says she's gonna get rid of a box set.

I sold my box at years ago 'cause I realised I wasn't that much a free fan and then I realised I'm I love Jason and that and

Well, I was just about to say the the the more we cover these fran these two franchises, the more I realise that Jason is definitely the f more fun and best of the franchise.

As we know, we like the last ones we've done where it's sort of going into like actually that episode what it wasn't that episode, that movie wasn't even fucking Jason, do you know what I mean?

So they did start playing around a little bit.

Um but generally

You know what you're getting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it's been a fun ride and we've got a couple more left over the next couple of years.

But that was

The sixth entry in that franchise.

Well it's type Oh Bill, you've walked in the room.

Happy Halloween to you, my friend.

He's got a costume on.

Oh what are you?

A big pumpkin.

Oh

That is not what that that's not supposed to go through the nose hole of the pumpkin.

No.

That's supposed to be a candle in there.

That is definitely not a candle.

And how are you dropping little pumpkins out from behind you?

That seems very weird.

Oh.

I don't really understand what he's doing.

I don't understand this at all.

But I think we should probably get into World of the Strange before well Bill's quite strange anyway, but before he takes us into his pumpkin hole.

Humpkin patch.

Here we here we go, Bill.

Take us away.

Hi, welcome back to World of Australia.

World of the Strange.

Michael, it's the world of the strange.

I hope Freddie says word of the strange bitch.

Strange world.

Well, we're here.

It's the world of the strange.

It's Halloween.

Okay, Spooky.

I uh I very much I should have said this in the intro, shouldn't I?

I went down to old f film set yesterday and um You did?

I know that was spooky

Robert Eggers.

Robert Eggers is Wer Wolf, which is being made and they're just making the village at the moment.

I was thinking where they're shooting it from though, like up at that point there it's

I I don't know they'll probably lock that off though.

Otherwise you could as a public, you could just go up there and look down on them and film in the fucking movie in the village.

It's always been that way though with that that set of woods.

You know, you can just walk up there really and they because they can't really shut too much of it off to the public, can they?

No.

Apartment like Gladiator when they were burning all the

Woodstone and stuff like that, but you do have to pay the park there now.

But yeah.

Anyway, that's not what we're talking about.

It is October, it's a spooky season for us.

We like to

class the uh all year round of spooky season but it's Halloween.

It's a Halloween special it's Word of Strange so that means it's doubly spooky.

Dan what's going on?

Well, I've got a couple of little stories here of spooky and scary and horrific things that happened actually on or around Halloween.

These are real-life things.

So are you ready?

Yeah.

I'm scared.

Hold hold on to your balls, Gav.

Um, so the first one, give you the little headline, and then we'll go into the story of it.

A trick or treater died after being given candy laced with cyanide.

Oh really?

So we've heard this as kids, you know, it's racing.

Yeah.

So 1974, poor little eight-year-old Timothy O'Brien, his sad, because he's only eight, died on Halloween after being given candy laced with cyanide.

It turns out it was

Poison the poison came from Timmy's father, Ronald, who was in financial trouble, and he'd taken out life insurance policies on his children.

Oh my god, so he was actually killing his kids.

So he'd also given uh pandy to four other of his other children, including his daughter Elizabeth.

None of the others ate them, but Timmy did and died.

His dad was executed by lethal injection in 1984.

10 years after.

Wow.

Right, I'm in debt, the kids are costing me a lot of money.

Well he's got five or six kids.

But if I kill all kids, don't need to pay for their mouth anymore, get all their life insurance, fucking hell, I'll be winning out of this one.

That's how he's looking at it.

Even if he killed a couple of them.

Even if he killed a few of them.

How'd he live with that though?

Well he didn't.

He got killed ten years later

Gutted.

Well not yeah, that's um not great.

So happy Halloween, uh poor Timmy.

Um so the next one is a suicide is mistaken

For a Halloween decoration.

Amazing.

This is twenty years ago.

Not amazing, sorry.

Amazing.

Suicide.

I mean just like the whole thing like, oh look at that.

It's like almost like a dark joke in a movie or something.

So in 2005, a woman in Delaware committed suicide by hanging herself from a tree.

And I don't laugh at that at all.

Of course not.

But we we're silly and we we get into the spirit of things and sometimes we laugh at the dark things 'cause that's how you get through it.

The spirit of suicide.

Yeah.

Um but in Delaware a woman killed herself by hanging herself from a tree in a park across my residential area.

The body was easily visible to passers by and passing vehicles.

No one called the police for almost twenty-four hours because they all assumed that the woman swaying in the wind was a really good Halloween decoration.

Almost a full day.

There was another one where a guy got stuck on a fence and died, and they thought he was a Halloween decoration as well, but that's not I don't think that's in this list.

Wow.

Mm but yeah, that what woman firstly sa sorry for her that she felt that way but but secondly, uh imagine all the people that had seen her and then then they saw

Al

The police turning up and taking her down and realizing we've all just been pointing at that Halloween decoration saying how great it looked and it wasn't it was a poor lady.

Yeah

Happy Halloween to Delaware.

Wow.

Um that realisation though.

The whole time you've been laughing, you see how good that is.

Oh Gerald, look, oh yeah, Betty

And then well Betty and Gerald have the realisation.

So the next one is very relevant because a man went to a Halloween party dressed as Freddie Krueger.

And then went on a rampage.

Oh shit.

Oh shit.

So in San Antonio, Texas

In uh this was 2024, 2023, um a man showed up at a Halloween party dressed as Freddie Kruger.

Everyone let him in.

Because he was in disguise, obviously, as everyone is.

He didn't know anybody at the party.

He pulled out a gun and started opening fire on people and killed five people.

Wow.

That's all the story is.

Doesn't give us any more about that.

I assume they you know he was arrested and but they didn't know him.

It turns out he was a stranger to that, but he just

When it could have been any house, any party.

'Cause all you gotta do, if you think about it on Halloween, you could just knock on someone's s door and they go, Hey, come on in if they're drunk enough, it's like one in the morning.

Freddy's here, guys.

Woo woo And they probably just think it's someone's cousin or someone.

And he pulls out a gun and starts to unload him.

Yep.

Happy Halloween.

Here's another good one for you guys.

A son.

On Halloween's son decapitated his mother and left her body in the street.

Jesus Christ, why?

One night in Long Island

uh Halloween 2014.

Uh a decapitated body was laid out in the street five feet away from a severed head.

Shit.

Few people walked by and thought that's a great Halloween prank.

That's a great Halloween decoration.

That is fantastic, isn't it?

But

The truth came out not long after.

35-year-old Derek Ward had used a kitchen knife to kill and decapitate his mother Patricia

Then carried the head and body out of this into the street and left them there.

He then walked off to a nearby railway tracks and jumped in front of a train and killed himself

Fuck it.

All on Halloween.

That's a bit much, isn't it?

Yeah.

Uh I guess Halloween makes the spookiness come out.

But that's a bit weird.

There we go.

Um there was a big explosion at a Halloween holiday performance.

That's the next one.

This was in 1963.

So lots of people decided to spend Halloween, uh the night of Halloween, at the Indiana State Fairgrounds Coliseum watching Halloween Holiday on Ice, which is a big show.

So I don't know, but I want to see it.

Fucking Dracula's always skating.

Frankenstein.

Dead living.

Zombies.

Imagine zombies skating around.

All over the place.

So Halloween Holiday on Ice at the Indiana State Fairgrounds Coliseum.

But the audience didn't realise

That there is a rusty tank in the concession area that started to leak gas.

Right.

The room, which didn't have any ventilation, filled with gas within an hour or so.

And as the skaters performed their grand finale

They were doing the final song and gating their little hearts out.

Dracula was there spinning around, picking up the bride of Frankenstein.

The the gas, however

had filled the room and reached an electric popcorn maker.

In the corner of the room, which triggered a huge explosion, 74 people died.

Fucking ho!

And four hundred were injured.

Whoa.

Literally as the final number of this Halloween holiday on ice

Imagine that.

And that's Halloween!

Yeah!

It's proper explosion then.

If it's it reached almost five hundred people

I know.

400 injured, 75 74 dead.

Yeah.

So that's popcorn everywhere.

It's like a radius of like five hundred people in the venue, isn't it?

So that's a big explosion.

I shouldn't laugh, but I don't laugh.

There would be popcorn everywhere though, but that's for sure.

Popcorn maker.

You'd never eat popcorn again if you were a survivor.

No.

You'd never go ice skating again, that's for sure.

That's really fucked

Yeah.

Um the Japanese exchange student who knocked on the wrong door.

You ready for this one?

25 years ago, a 16-year-old Japanese exchange student called Yoshihiro Hatori dressed up as

John Travolta's character from Saturday Night Fever.

I don't know why I'm laughing.

I want to see this though already.

So

So where is he from?

Is he Japanese, you say?

He's Japanese extreme Japanese.

Japanese dude in the is uh John Travolta sa in a white suit.

Even though that movie

Is an awfully bad and like it is in dark movie.

Not bad movie.

It is such a dark film.

It's not the film you think it is if you don't know what that movie is

Yeah.

Well he headed out to a Halloween party in Louisiana in his uh his outfit.

You know, he's come to America and he's like, I'll dress as John Travolta.

It's great, you know.

But did he I'll go to a party.

Did he but knock on a fan of a Tent Revolver?

He got dropped off by a friend.

Uh but his friend dropped him at the wrong house.

He knocked on the door and the homeowner panicked at this Japanese man dressed in a white jumpsuit, uh as John Travolta with a wig on, pulled out a gun and shot and killed him immediately.

Why did he panic?

I don't know, Calf.

What the fuck?

I'm here!

Pff Fine.

Whoa.

Night neighbor, night neighbor.

Fucking bad.

Um

Guns.

The the homeowner thing we should have guns.

The the homeowner didn't actually do any jail time.

He was acquitted of any wrongdoing.

Um and twenty years later It wasn't a trespasser.

They knocked on his door.

What how do you class that as a trespasser?

Well the any just to fucking shoot someone.

The mother of this this poor Japanese boy's m um twenty years on has said

I've been observing American society for the past 20 years.

The ongoing situation there has been incomprehensible to us Japanese.

I want to encourage more ways to adopt gun control in the US.

Well you know.

That's never ever ever happening.

Ever.

But poor guy.

Poor guy.

On to the next one.

There is a man wearing a scream mask.

I just want to say he was in that looking in the mirror.

Getting ready going, I fucking I bet it was listening to Sanite Fever while he's getting ready.

Had a couple of hack up shots of tequila's tequila.

Maybe he smokes a bong.

It's just like I'm fucking looking to shit.

G

Look at me.

I'm pulling.

He's living the dream.

Well he's moved to America and he's living the American dream, you know.

He must have gutted for him

Yeah.

Well here's another one then a man wearing a screen mask uh murdered another man.

So

Obviously the ghost face mask.

Um so on Halloween in twenty thirteen, someone wearing the ghost face mask and cape uh shot and killed a nineteen year old and then disappeared into the New York night.

And that's all we know.

They he was never caught that I know of.

It doesn't say anything in this.

All they all that um bystanders said is that they saw this ghost faced, come out of the crowd, pull out a gun and shoot this guy.

They don't know if he knew him.

But that must have been bit pretty weird, really, to see that character who's a killer.

It would have been worse, I guess, if it was a knife, because that's what he uses in the films, but yeah, that's

Kind of a bit weird really.

Um yeah.

Uh on to the next one then.

A man opened his door on Halloween to find a trick or treater that would end his life.

So in 1982, poor old 69-year-old Marvin was getting ready for bed after a night of handing out the Halloween candy.

Living his best year.

There was one more knock at the door though for him.

6069.

Yee, dinner for two.

Um two for one.

Marvin opened the door and there was someone wearing a pillowcase over their head with eyes cut out.

So almost like the Jason uh pillowcase.

Yeah, it's almost a little bit like uh uh it reminds me of a movie called The Cornrose, I think they're called, which I watched at Frightfest this year.

Um the man in the pillowcase said, trick or treat, give me your money or I'll shoot.

He then pulled a gun out and said, I know you've got um a safe in your basement.

So uh Marvin thought this is a prank because only my family know about this safe.

I've got in my basement.

So this can't be true.

So he grabbed the gun laughing.

Um like, come on, who is it under there?

And as he grabbed the gun, the gun went off, shooting him in the throat and killing him instantly.

Uh the killer ran off and left the just the pillowcase at the scene.

Right.

And they tried doing DNA testing on the pillowcase, but they've never been able to find out who it was.

Sorry.

We're old Marvin.

God, you shot Marvin.

You shot Marvin in the face.

John Travolta.

I didn't mean it to shoot him in the face.

It was such a great scene.

Um okay well the there was a haunted hayride.

So you know these haunted hayrides you get in America where you they take you all over the place.

So um there was a haunted hayride employee

Who said, I'm gonna pretend to hack hang watch this and then actually hung himself by accident for real Wow

In 1990 in the Chicago area, teenager called Brian, his job was to give Hayride customers a scare by pretending to hang from the gallows.

Brian pulled off the stunt fine from a couple of days leading up to Halloween every day, a couple of times a day, whenever the cart went by with all the

Yeah, customers sat in it looking at all the scary things.

But one night on the Halloween night something went a bit wrong.

As the hayride approached Brian, who was hanging from the gallows with his feet touching the ground.

The tractor driver began to worry, and then he realised uh Brian wasn't giving his usual speech and his feet had slipped off and he'd actually hung himself.

So all these people in the back of the hayride just thought

Oh, that's a great look at that.

How's he hanging there?

No, he's not touching anything.

He'd actually hung himself by accident and died.

Again, realisation later.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Uh I think I've only got one more yes, one more of these.

They're not very uh fun, are they?

But that's Halloween for you.

Yeah.

It's not always one game.

Halloween is fun.

Last one is cool is about a boy whose life was forever altered on a Halloween.

Thing is how many millions of people are there in and on the planet and like there's gonna be

people dying all the time.

So I know it's just on this day.

I know it's a shame.

I don't think the Halloween gods w can just stop all death on Halloween so we all just have fun and joy though

This last one is pretty um dark.

Uh so Halloween 1984.

An eight-year-old again called Brian.

Should have been enjoying a night of trick-or-treating with his sisters Tiffany and Tamara, who were eleven and ten.

But instead his life turned into a real-life horror film when his new stepfather

stabbed his mother to death in front of the kids, and chased his sisters down the hall and murdered both of them as well.

He then came into Brian's room covered in blood.

kidnapped Brian, took him away, uh and kept him sort of for two days

Uh and then the police find finally found him and arrested him.

Um but before they could arrest him he managed to kill himself by shotgun.

So poor Brian.

Fucking hell, how's Brian nowadays?

I don't know.

He's probably not doing great, is he really?

So Halloween.

You celebrating Halloween, Brian?

No, I'm fucking not.

And I'll tell you why.

It's probably turns into Monga Moore's

Yeah, so he saw his mum and his sisters murdered in front of him, then he was kidnapped, and then watched his stepdad get shoot himself two days later

Poor kid and he was eight years old.

Yeah, that's absolutely gonna destroy you, unfortunately.

Yeah, and I get not wanting to celebrate Halloween probably Brian.

I completely get it if that's your

Sure.

But like you said, it might do the rot the opposite and it might turn him into Michael Myers.

Yeah, right.

What are you sipping there?

A little juice box?

Oh nice.

I got little juice boxes cause uh I'm not on my flat very often.

So if I get a large cart of juice, orange juice.

I only have a couple of glasses 'cause I only have a glass a day, I'm not going to have more than that.

And then a couple of days I'm not here for a few days, come back, it's fucked.

So I have to go small time.

Yeah.

Anyway.

It's not it's not about the size.

No.

Um it's how you

Well that's Halloween.

Sorry it was very dark, but that is Halloween for you guys.

Sometimes it is dark and these were some really fucking dark things.

I think there should be a reverse purge on Halloween.

Well what would happen in a reverse purge?

Everybody's happy and joyful.

Okay.

Big orgies.

Massive orgies.

Worldwide orgy.

Free drugs and booze.

I I don't know that it just sounds like that you're right, it's friend booze and there's no booze.

Booze isn't allowed.

Uh well Bill Murray, you've known weird weed and sex.

What is he doing with that candy apple?

I don't he's put sticky substance all round it.

Yeah.

You want me to bob for your apples?

Apple bobbin.

Bobbing for Bob's apples.

Before I bob my for your apples, Bill, can you please tell me?

Thick is out of here.

Billy Bob.

Billy Bobin Bop Bop.

Good boy.

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Weird.

Every legend is based on fact.

Every myth is grounded in truth.

For seventeen

Years the town of Haddenfield, Illinois has been haunted by a night when evil roamed the streets.

And a madman ruled the night.

Everyone knows his name.

Now everyone will know the truth.

I knew what he was, but I never knew why.

Halloween since the origin of Michael Myers.

Halloween occurs of Michael Myers.

Myers.

Michael 1995 rated 18, an hour and 27 minutes.

Tidy in under 90 minutes.

Six years after Michael Myers last terrorized Haddonfield.

He returns there in pursuit of his niece, Jamie Lloyd, who has escaped with her newborn child, for which Michael and a mysterious cult have sinister plans.

Dodgy old synopsis.

It's a lot going on in that one, isn't it?

Yeah, we've got to think like this is, you know, the Halloween

Believe me.

The Halloween series, what is it?

It's three different paths you can go on with them.

Which timelines you want.

Three different timelines.

Um

So it does get a little bit confusing, it can do.

So so we're saying then, Jay, so we're saying this is Danielle Harris from part four and part five, now grown up with her own child.

Who happens to be Michael's child, her uncle.

And uh was there a scene where Michael with his mask on was humping what?

His niece?

Who somehow at our age had a baby?

Now this is look, we'll get into

We'll get into all this.

Because she's not that old either.

So you got a thing.

I don't know I don't know where to start really with this one.

Before we get into it, I mean I mean maybe we'll talk about my first time I saw it.

Um I

had disposable income and I bought the move on VHS from Virgin Megastore because

Um, you know, I I'd never seen them all.

I'd seen one and I'd seen It was two and I'd seen Season of the Witch.

Yeah, yeah, like whatever's on Sky Movies or the Odd Telling.

It was always it was always the first one.

Occasionally you might get Halloween two, the original one, occasionally.

Yeah.

Um so I was happy to own them all and when I got to this one as probably a sixteen, seventeen year old, it confused the absolute fuck out of me.

Particularly if you watch it straight after the fifth one, you're like I don't know what's going on.

And and and over the years I

I've really sort of slated this as the worst of the bunch.

Now you and I both probably in agreement.

Much like Freddie, this one isn't it's an age of the bunch.

We've matured.

It's better than the fifth one.

Yeah.

I like the fourth one actually, uh, in retrospect when we covered that.

That one wasn't too bad, Daniel Harris, etc.

You know.

The fifth one was.

Fifth is a mess, yeah.

But this one, now I and I said this to you off air before we recorded, I suddenly this one I get this one now.

Not that I get as in it's a great film like The Shining.

I just get it in that

I understand the plot now.

The plot is still a fucking mess though.

Yeah.

And the reason for that, and I guess that's my next thing I wanted to say is

They bring in this um weird cult, this this this evil, this yeah, the cult of Thorn, and they're the reason

for Michael being evil.

Now the whole point in Michael being scary is there is just no reason, you know, in number one and number two

He's just killing and there's no reason.

And even Loomis says, you know, th there's nothing behind those eyes, just evil.

There's just nothing there.

But in this one they're like, yeah, he's controlled by a crazy cult of thorn who have got these rune symbols.

And basically they

have to have someone who kills out an entire family to let all the other families thrive.

It comes from the pagan times.

They used to do this all the time.

And you're like, what?

What?

What?

Where's this come from?

It's like it's like Halloween 3 obviously goes and does this whole other thing, because that was John Carpenter's idea.

Um

But he'd done uh if he hadn't done a part two to his part one, he might have been able to get away with that.

But then this kind of goes like it's kind of thrown that at it in a way where it kind of goes off the roads of the Halloween

simple line, Michael Myers is a straight killer, we don't know why he's a shape.

And now it throws in this fucking other thing on the side there's throw a cult in there.

Yeah, all right, Colts are in, don't they?

Yeah

And to add to it, he also we got now got about two or three different families in the mix who are cousins of and related to and adopted of

you know, the original family.

The Myers family.

And it's just it it just doesn't really I I like the bit when Loomis is like, Why I had plastic surgery to take the burns off

Cost me a fortune.

What he's saying is they didn't have to apply prosthetics for me for this.

You can't be bothered to put prosthetics on this time, so basically you had them taken off.

Alright.

Alright.

Who cares?

He's got a couple of little burns on his neck and that's about it.

You don't see that.

What if Donald Pleasant's wiped like the scene starts with him coming away from the curtain?

And then he zips himself up anyone.

Wake it fro Australian throw back there.

But wouldn't that be weird?

So but but watching this film now I am Thank you Michael that was amazing The other reason that number five is that

The ending of number five is so fucking out there because it ends with an explosion in a jail cell where Michael is freed by a man in a black trench coat and a cowboy hat and cowboy boots.

And you just don't understand what's going on.

But this film picks up who that guy was.

Kind of, yeah.

Uh but even when as a kid watching number six, this one we're covering today

I still didn't understand it.

It was only this time around I realised that it's the doctor.

I don't know why I never twigged.

I must have tuned out

a couple of times watching this and now I realise it's it's the doctor that's the cult leader just by chance.

Loom is his best friend.

Well let's get into it because I uh we can talk about these things as we go but

Yeah.

Well before we do, um, very quickly then, who's in this?

Uh really obviously Donald Pleasance comes back.

Sadly he passed away not long after

I think this film was in um post production.

In um yeah, post production when he passed away.

Uh I don't think he probably got to see the final version of this.

I'm sure he's not that bothered about it, bless him.

It's also the first ever appearance of Paul Rudd.

Um, everyone's favourite person, Paul Rudd.

Uh he did this and he did Clueless in the same year.

Clueless would be the one that he really

everyone knows important.

So Halloween, um I watched Halloween twenty eighteen again the other day, actually, funny enough, which they should want it done.

Uh uh I moan about this on our Patreon episode if you want to listen to me moaning about

David Gordon.

You and you and I loved that in the cinema and I did because it got back to what we wanted

to see but then it turned into a fucking Marvel movie or let's have another one or let's have another one, you know?

Yeah, because then I rewatched it when the second one came out.

I didn't need to do that.

Yeah I didn't enjoy it um as much.

So yeah, so with that one, they wanted to get actually Furred uh Halloween Kills, which has Tommy Doyle

His character come back as a grown man.

They actually asked Paul Rudd to do it.

He would have been like I'm getting paid by Marvel.

Marvel are giving me money.

No, I'm not doing your shit movie.

Um

Seth me and Seth Roger making a movie together.

Just also was throwing me in in it and the girl that we were both babysitting with both in the same bar tonight.

What is going on?

If he'd have shown up and started doing karaoke in that scene, that might have made it a better film though.

Yeah, maybe.

I don't know.

Anyway, so this is um Paul Rodd's basically playing Tommy, so he is uh

Uh Lori Strode, you know, Jamie Curtis is in the original John Carp was Halloween's babysitting two kids for a night.

Supposed to be babysitting one, but uh friend wants to get a bone on and do some shagging.

I believe they're watching in that original film, they're watching the film from another world.

Yeah.

Um and the little kids there.

So basically we are now here with a grown-up

30-year-old or mid-20s or whatever Tommy Boy Tommy Doyle Tommy Doyle um so that's how Paul Rudd's playing for his first time on film

Yeah, and I feel sorry for him in this.

He does as best he can, but some of the lines are awful.

This movie though is almost like an Avengers

Of the Halloween series.

I don't know why I keep going to Marvel this, but it is, mate, because you've got Loomis and he's a

I'm not going back because it basically we could get to anyway, but a his d his mate is a doctor from the hospital, comes out to see him and says, Oh you found Oh you found me here.

Yes, quite hard to get here.

Oh yes.

And he says I I've quit uh quit being a doctor thing.

I just want to let you know I'm gonna retire, etc.

Then then he says I wanna get you come back with me.

I don't know why he says retired.

Um I know we're jumping ahead and we'll get to all this.

But we have then over the radio at the same time it's like the fucking beacon of fucking I don't know fucking Superman's beacon up in the sky or something at the same time they have this calling

Where you've got Paul Rudd, who's like your fucking hawkoy or something shit, over here Uh waiting on the fucking band radio for anything like a fucking maniac thinking Michael Myers is coming back 'cause Halloween.

He's like fucking twitching like a fucking speed freak.

A's there waiting and then he got these two and these two's hear that and then he's we must tie up together team up

Me and you can't get it.

Uh the big sister um who's got a kid, she's like the black widow.

She's like, well I I'm involved in the mix now, so I'll be back.

Maybe it could be Hulk

Um anyway, so then you got put all of a sudden though you got ri you realize out of all the Halloween movies, not just have you got

Dr.

Loomis is for is for his revenge for these Halloween movies.

Every time, how am I gonna get Jim Michael up for free when he goes to Stonehenge for a laugh?

Um

Uh uh we we have him joined out all of a sudden though we've got this young young spunk already in Paul Rudd.

I don't know about young Paul Rudd's

Ps young spunkin poor rod, I don't want to know about that.

But he is ready in the ways in the owls on the CV radio like a speed freak tweaking like a soldier, and he is ready there like a cracker more like it.

He's ready, he's ready to pounce like a

Like a jackrabbit.

And it uh this is the first time we've got like different groups could come together and they go against Michael Myers.

Yeah.

And I was like, wow, I've never seen this before, you know.

The other thing this film's got going for it, obviously other than bringing Donald Pleasant's back and um John Carpenter's score, is it's got a much better fucking mask.

than the last couple.

Yeah.

So like that there is some stuff in here and Yeah.

And some quite good ac ca characters in this.

Particularly Cara's dad, who is a horrible piece of shit, uh and abusive to her and, you know, he's really mean

And we're really pleased to see him die.

But he plays that asshole really well.

There are some good people in this and I think the um Marian Hagen that plays Cara Strode in this

is really good actually and also super hot.

Uh again, back in my day when I bought this I was like, oh yeah, she's great, like especially when Paul Rod's like spying on her with this telescope from the next house.

Like

Let's get on to it anyway.

Yeah.

Um enough of my deviance.

Um okay, cool.

Yes.

Like I say, Pleasance is back, and that's cool.

That's my first note.

Pleasance is back.

Always great to have him back.

And

Gav, you said this to me a few days ago when you messaged me.

What's nice is he's quite chilled in this, Dr.

Loomis.

He's not as manic, screaming in children's faces Loomis.

What's nice about this is his character is actually he's thought about it and I reckon someone who's been made this movie is actually like producing it somewhere along the line from but not from the other one, especially five, has

Gone at this gun.

Well let's let's put a little bit more character development going on here a little bit.

So Loomis's character his arc he this is his character arc for we've never seen this before

He all of a sudden now is actually kind of chilled out.

It's not that fucking I'm going after Michael Michael after every fucking movie.

uh like this s hunting him since the first film.

Literally hunting him since since he broke out uh broke got back to that mental asylum that all the people uh were, you know, all over the place.

Um psychiatric ward, sorry.

He uh uh is now he is now calm.

He's just like no I just sit back and watch Pornhub nowadays

There's a really cool line actually from him where um on the radio they said someone mentions he's listening to this radio show and he sa somebody says, Loomis, isn't he dead?

And he says and he looks at the radio and he says

Not dead, just retired.

And it's that's quite a cool moment.

It's he's just like super chill and he's definitely like growing his own weed out there.

Definitely

Before we jump into this, there's one other little weird thread I should mention for this film.

There's a lot on the backstory.

I won't go into all of that and put the production and the all the shit that went on behind the scenes.

But there is also another um plot thread which is there's a DJ called Barry.

DJ Barry in the house.

He is like um a bit like a Howard Stern type shop jock.

And he

is the one that's doing this radio show on Halloween and he's gonna come to Haddonfield and interview the people.

So that kind of bear with us when we're going through this because

just to give you a bit of backstory if you've not seen this Barry is kind of on this person on the radio that accidentally brings everyone together to take down Michael but then he gets involved and then killed himself in the further down the line.

It's a bit of a weird

plot thread subplot but it it's in there as well so that that's that really but yeah let's get started so we start with a woman in labor

Um and while she's having a baby we get a big introducing Paul Rudd, which is cool, cool to see.

Um she's taken into a candlelit cavern.

Is that freely the tech

was coming out and it was where she was laying it popped out and Paul Rudd's name was Paul Rudd.

Popped out of her vagina.

Up to the screen.

Here I am Ant Man.

Well if he's Ant-Man it wouldn't really be that bad.

You wouldn't really feel it.

Um she's she's wheeled into a candlelit cavern, um, which is not where you want to be when you're having a baby, let's be honest.

She's also tied to the bed.

And and we have narration of Donald Pleasance.

Yeah.

He's sort of saying, For many years You know.

In a galaxy far, far away.

Uh basically saying, you know, Michael Myers, blah, blah, blah.

Stabbed his own.

All the stuff we've heard before.

We we know this story.

Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider.

It's like that.

He always attacked on Halloween and overcome all police and then he disappeared.

Cheaply made this film, um, and it's re

And you can see that because there's a lot of slow slow-mo used to stretch out a bit, particularly in this opening scene.

There's a lot of repetitive shots of her

sort of shape shoving her head back in pain as she's having the baby, but they repeat it in slow motion several times.

And then we hear the baby cry.

Um and then again not what you want, just as you've had a baby, a man in cowboy boots and a cowboy hat enters the room in a long black trench coat.

S

And we don't see his face at this point

And he takes the baby.

It's a weird choice.

And then they draw a symbol on the body of the baby.

There's some kind of an altar happening.

Um

We get a little flashback of uh little Jamie.

The end of the last movie.

Yep.

And it ties in nicely to what the fuck happened.

So now we understand that this cult

blew up that jail that Michael was in.

I don't know how the police put him in a jail cell but they did.

Took Michael out of it and apparently Michael complies with them.

When when he's around the colt, he's like, all right guys, what do you need me to do today?

Which found me my taking act today.

But when he's you know, when he's out and about he's just chopping people up left, right and centre.

Can I commend very much uh very quickly that uh it's such a simple thing, it's such a cliche, but we all understand what it is.

have a flashback and it's in black and white.

Straight away you go, oh it's a flashback.

It's kind of like we know what that is.

Can people still start doing that a bit more?

Because it can be confusing.

I'll tell you something now.

My kids understand the flashback.

They're four, not even four and a half.

And when there's a black and white flashback, especially if it's black and white, they say they either say to me, Is this a dream?

or

Are they remembering this?

Yeah.

And that that's their interpretation.

So even they understand this.

It's like thumbs up's a universal language.

Do you know what I mean?

Put your thumb up.

Someone else will put the thumb up and go, yep, okay.

So uh yeah I I still feel that's the same with this.

So could people do that?

Because in movies it gets fucking complicated at times when you're like oh so someone says to me, no flashback, oh for fuck I watched it

It's incantation they kept doing it.

So Charlie would go to be they're back now, Dad.

Alright, thanks.

They're back at the front.

Alright, cheers.

Afterwards like, yeah, I've got it now, it's alright.

It's it's in cartoons where it goes like dilly-doo did-doo-diddly-doo.

Yeah, I need help though.

I uh it's uh you know, uh again I don't know why I'm reviewing films, but I need help watching them.

The flashback is Danielle Harris, who probably got a little bit of money for her, you know, being image being used in this.

Uh, and Michael being rescued from the jail by this cult.

So a woman um takes the adult Jamie

I love that Rob Rob Zombie had to when he sorry, uh interrupting.

I love how Rob Zombie when made his Halloween's like, right, we're gonna get some uh uh um let's get Daniel Harrison in it.

Right, let's g make sure she gets her tits out though

No, I know.

Do you know what I mean?

It's like whatever he didn't need to do that.

So this one of the nurses decides

to help Jamie um and her baby escape from this crazy cult.

So she starts smuggling them out down these corridors and down some stairs.

Then Michael's just there.

And we get the can't John Carpenter theme tune kick in.

Yeah.

Um and yeah, Michael's there.

Out of nowhere.

Just gets there to grabs grabs the nurse.

And this is this is the typical

Fucking this is like the where you could make jokes of scary movie could make jokes of this and parodize it parody it however you say it um where

It's Michael Myers doesn't move at any speed whatsoever yet.

Turn in in a second he's there.

How the fuck did you do that?

But it they would probably just say it's runes, runestones, made it.

Paul Paul Rudder will explain that later, please.

Do anything at all.

He's better off using the acorns that Willow had in the film Willow.

Amazing have some fucking Lucky Charms boxes of Lucky Charms and just throw them on the floor.

That stop that well funny how you link that to Willow.

They're both played by Warwick Davis.

There we go.

Um so uh this nurse gets her head impaled on a spike on the wall, Michael that's one of his

Textbook moves, isn't it?

If he was a wrestler.

He he doesn't he's not like he's not as inventive and creative.

He loves it

What can I use?

He's like Jackie Chan.

He uses what's around him just.

Like Michael Myers is a bit more autistic when it comes down to when he pins that the kid up that lad up in the first one.

And he just turns his head to the side and stares at him, so that's the mere autism thing going on there, I reckon.

Routine.

So Jamie

And the baby managed to escape up onto the roof.

It's hammering down with rain, really dark and stormy night.

Michael follows her.

She she jumps in a truck that she steals from a guy, saying, Hey, what are you doing to my goddamn truck?

And she just drives off in the truck

Um he gets his neck broken by Michael and she drives off.

I I realised that when Michael's just slowly doing his fucking walk along.

I I realised straight away, I was like

I know I've seen this before a long time ago and I know what was going on.

But I was like, Michael seems to be like an assassin because like there's no reason why he's after that baby.

We don't know why.

So it feels like he's actually been sent out like you would fucking

Frankenstein's monster or something.

John Wick.

What?

John Wick, he's been s he's an assassin.

I'm just naming assassin, sorry.

Let's keep it in the horror world.

Um

So yeah, I feel like uh uh straight away you could fit see like Mark or straight away why is he after the baby?

It does make sense.

I was like but it does feel like he's

There for a reason, like he's like, go Michael, go kill that person, bring them back to me.

Okay.

You know, like Frank is our sponsor.

He's an instrument of evil.

Yeah, and I've got a note here that says we're four minutes in and we've already had a baby born, a killer cult, and two deaths.

So you get you're getting a lot of bang for your buck already.

We've had two deaths from Michael already.

Um and we cut two Danny.

Danny Danny Struve.

Danny Strode wakes up um and he's in his room, a little boy, and he hears Hears fucking Freddy Krueger talking

Kill for him, Danny.

Every time it sounds like Freddie's voice.

And he says, Mommy, mommy, the the voice man is back.

And she's like, oh, for God's sake.

So she does a little rhyme where she's like, um, magic spell, do your work.

Boogie men, go away and don't be a jerk, or something along those lines.

And she does this whenever he hears the voice band.

But this kid, like, must be thinking, although I'm only seven or eight years old, I'm definitely hearing a man and seeing a man come into my room in a cowboy hat and say, Kill for me, Danny, kill.

Yeah.

Like mum, I'm not this

This isn't my imagination, but his mum's just like, oh son.

I I imagine here if you're going into it's like going into Halloween free going, I can't wait to see Michael Myers again.

Um I think you're like

I love that in the when that premiered at cinema and everyone's sitting there and they're like, where the fuck's Michael?

And they always suddenly start hearing where's Michael, Michael Myers.

Martin's like, you're not having any of that

Um it's just that Tom Atkins banging in a motel room.

Yeah, is it like this though with just it's just seems to be um like

Uh you're expecting one thing and then all of a sudden it should be nice simplified.

All of a sudden you're like, what's this going on?

I might I wonder if

fans when he went into it expected just a s simple formula like Jason does with Friday thirteenth and then they got you know they got this which is all of a sudden they're throwing in like this B story.

I know it's a strode but we're starting to fucking stretch it thin aren't we?

Yeah.

And and just to cement, by the way, on a side note, just to cement that this is nineteen ninety five, this boy's got several Power Rangers toys in his room and I believe he's got a Pokemon poster on the wall.

Just to sort of cement that this is the mid nineties for him, you know.

And did young Mikey Myers, when he first killed killed his older sister, d did he plan all this out?

Well was he there at that point then, the runestones and they he was a kid of the Fawn family then, and they I I think the Colt

Um because he'd done such an evil deed.

They've manipulated him with magic.

Yeah, exactly.

And they used him in they turned him into an instrument of their e for evil for them.

Um so he's so like they're still sort of saying that Michael still has this thing about strodes, he needs to kill all strodes.

Why

Uh because if he wipes out the whole family, that's what the ancient pagans did.

They ha they wiped out an entire family to make everybody else stronger and more food to go around in the village and that kind of thing.

I don't know.

We don't get much more of a backstory than that, Gav

Paul Rudd explains a better than me later on.

Oh, you've done pretty good with that.

Thanks.

Um now the mum, his mum is Cara.

Um

This is interesting.

Quite a hot mum.

And she's actually she had Danny when she was very young.

I don't think she's a good one.

And her brother

Um, who's Tim Timmy, I think it is.

Or Tim, yeah, Tim.

Timmy.

And her mum and dad, her dad detests her because, you know, you got a little bastard son there.

So we'll meet all of them copy a moment.

I think she hasn't

been at home for about three years and just gone out has a kid and just turns up.

So dad's a bit like, fuck's sake, you just turn up sort of thing.

And you can't understand where he's coming from in some perspective

Not perhaps the hitting.

No, no, no.

Uh she's she's uh in the bathroom in her underpants and she's listening to radio and it's quite interesting because you got like a

talk show host thing on going on and they're talking aroundorious serial killer and they're saying about they're just talking around me about Michael Myers.

So it's really interesting that we're we're accepting that's possibly Ted

Ted Bundy and Ed Gean and just different people in the world of America were like we're actually real serial killers and Michael Myers is actually a serial killer.

But when it comes down to I suppose yeah, because they're taking into account all of his murders through the other films.

Apart from three.

Okay.

And it kind of gives it a bit of realism that he's listed among other things.

It's quite interesting.

Yeah.

So yeah, um

Paul Rudd's watching her.

Paul Rudd is watching her um from the house next door.

But he's not really watching her as more much as more as surveilling the house because he knows some shit's gonna go down at some point.

Well listen to a radio show where he she's on hold.

with because he's phoned in they happen to be talking about Michael Myers.

Yeah.

Is that this is the tie coincidence or something?

So this is the tie-in I mentioned earlier.

So

DJ Barry is this this this is his show.

DJ Barry in the house.

And they're all excited that he's coming to Haddonfield to do a live broadcast at some point.

But his show is what does tie everybody together, like you said, Gab, it's like the Avengers call sign.

Um now mum

does find that Danny has been doing some pictures of uh room symbols and she's like what the fuck is up with my kid man he says to me that he sees the voice man in his room um

And then the the radio guy starts talking about Michael and says Haddenfield has banned Halloween since nineteen eighty-nine.

And I'm going to be coming there to ask the residents what they think of that and doing a live broadcast.

And I encourage you all to have a big Halloween party against

you know, the law wouldn't for the first time since eighteen nine.

This is a shame because like we do have it later on just a little bit of this radio show and then the DJ's like spoiler, is killed straight away by Michael and it seems like

What a shame.

We could have had that radio show sort of cutting back to it and where we get to know and he could be talking about to the town and what's going on.

It could have been used really well

Talking of radio shows, I was watching Hana Hubi Halloween for about the sixth or seventh time this month with my children.

And my kids

crack up when Shaq um yeah when Shaquino O'Neill starts talking in the other voice they were like that's not the right voice daddy and they think that's absolutely hello they love that's their favorite film

Yeah, they love it, they love it.

They love the werewolf, Philip Steve Buscemi, and um they love all of it.

Um so yeah, Paul Rudd then turns his camera on.

on her and her underwear.

She's not that freaked out about it, but like I say, it's more that he's surveilling the house.

It is still just coming out of the 80s really, isn't it?

Yeah.

Uh he he's on the ra he calls a radio show and says, my name is Tommy Doyle and when I was a kid I saw Michael Myers.

Um and I know he's coming back.

I tell you he's coming back

Could be this Halloween, could be next, but I can tell you he's coming back.

And the guy's like, Whoa, we got a regular nut job on the line here.

He basically takes the piss out of all of his callers 'cause one of the women's like, I feel sorry for Michael.

I think he was misunderstood.

And he's like, Oh yeah, would you like to bang Ed Geane as well?

like just says all this horrible shit to them.

Like I said, he's a bit of a shock jock.

But yeah, he says he'll be back to finish his work.

And the and the um the DJ hangs up on him.

And then we've seen Loomis on his typewriter.

Typing very slowly.

I don't know what he's typing, his diary and a diary!

Today!

Day!

I had uh

Oh but he's typing something out um and he's retired and that's because the DJ on the radio like I mentioned it says and what about that Loomis guy eh?

That crazy doctor who was hunting him down.

Where is he now?

Probably dead somewhere.

And he says, Not dead.

Just retired.

It's a great thing.

It's right.

It works very

It's as soon as we see pleasant and he's laid back at his own little place there, doing his own little thing, drinking, typing away, just enjoying himself, listening to the radio, he kind of be like

Ah, back with Donald Pleasance.

It's quite nice and he's n because he's not this wild crazy uh raincoat wearing psychopath

doctor after my Michael Mars.

It seems quite refreshing to have him like this, you know.

And isn't it interesting that um in part five he was still in his full-blown alcoholism and he'd quit drinking

And so when he made this one, his character was much more calm.

His acting, the style that he chose was perhaps much more calm.

And obviously the script dictated that, but

I think probably his his lifestyle choice is made him a little bit calmer as well.

Now you'll have to help me out here, Gav, because he's visited by Dr.

Terence Wynne.

Now was Dr.

Terence Wynne in many of the other ones?

Or was he someone that just came into the end of number five and now he's in this one?

I don't really recall.

No, I don't think so.

Obviously you've got uh in the original movie when

Donald Presence leaves Loomis leaves the hospital, you got a doctor saying to him about how do you learn to drive?

Well someone must have taught him that got that scene going on, but that's not this guy.

No.

I don't think it would be.

They could it could potenti be I suppose they could just call the same character I guess but I wouldn't have thought so.

Um

He knocks on his door and uh it's quite late at night.

He's the chief administrator for the hospital and he's the one which I spoke about earlier.

He's come to basically tell him that I've retired, etc.

He says, You look well and he says, plastic surgery cost me a fortune, but at least I don't scare the kids anymore.

Um which explains why they haven't got any special effects makeup on him.

Um they sit and have a drink together and he says, I'm celebrating tonight

Uh tonight I'm gonna I've I'm retiring from from working in the medical field.

Have a drink, but just don't touch the curtains.

Michael's curtains, beef curtains.

Um

And we cut back to to Jamie.

Um Jamie is uh she leaves the truck, so don't forget

We got Jamie, uh adult Jamie, who's still running away with her baby, and we see her pull up in the middle of the night with um her baby.

What ends up being confusing is that we're all very accustomed to the name Jamie De Curse, who played

uh uh um laurie in halloween but in in your head you kind of think it's jamie but then you've got this one it's jamie so it's a bit like oh gosh you could have picked a different name

So she leaves the truck outside a bus station that she's next and she she runs into the bus station with the baby.

Um obviously she's still bleeding.

She makes a call.

uh to someone.

We don't we don't we don't know who she's gonna be ringing.

And then we cut back to Terence talking about his retirement and he says, but I do want you to come and it doesn't really explain why unless I missed it.

He says to Dr.

Loomis

I got one favour to ask you and that's just to come back to Smith's Grove.

Um leads like Well it doesn't make sense because it's just retired, so

He says that's a cruel Halloween plank to prey on someone.

We do know though, spoy though, that the Doctor is actually one of the cult leaders and this is all a fucking plan to get Loomis.

Why do you need Loomis though?

Why didn't you just leave Loomis alone?

Very strange.

Is it better to have your enemy close than thought?

Maybe.

Maybe because he knows Michael better than anyone.

I don't know.

But on the radio show that happens to be playing in Loomis's house as well, suddenly we hear that Jamie is called into Bar DJ Barry's show.

Um DJ Barry, you're next calling to DJ Barry.

He says, Who's our next call?

And she's like, Hello, my name is Jamie Lloyd.

And Doctor Loomis, if you're out there, I need your help.

Doctor Loomis, I need you.

Help me, help me.

Okay.

This is what I've been waiting for, like the bat signal.

Um she runs into the restroom with her baby and then Michael searches for her.

But she runs outside and she's driving again and

She gets rammed off the road, we assume by Michael, but I assume it's actually probably the Colt that did this to her, because I don't think Michael's driving is probably as good as this.

She crashes the van into a pumpkin farm, Gav, which is

Cool for her Halloween movie.

She runs off into a barn with the baby, but it's not the baby because she's hidden the baby in the restroom.

She's caught and killed.

Well Well she's not killed.

Well this is it w she leaves the place and she's just all of a sudden all of a sudden next second you know Michael is there.

She it's pouring with rain, she's soaking.

Michael's just there, he's not wet.

He's completely dry somehow.

Like he actually has magic umbrella skills as well as magic teleportation speed skills.

And then all of a sudden they're in a vehicle and all of a sudden Michael is fucking driving in the vehicle.

It's like how how we we're really jumping

into it here very very quickly like the other.

It must be an era in time where all this editing so quick.

Mike Michael's driving

He's driving that van that knocks.

So where did was the vehicle there?

Did he have the keys in his pocket?

What was this planned?

I you know, so they're not asking.

Anyway, Michael's there, so she then crashes cause she's been chased and she's a bit like oh fuck uh crashes.

Michael catches her in the bomb and stabs her.

You do think where's the baby in all this?

Um because there's no sound.

Um and yeah she's she's stabbed by Michael and she goes, You won't have the baby, Michael.

And Michael looks in the car and the van and there is no baby.

Yeah.

And then the next morning pops up and this is good though.

This is like setting definitely backward this is what we do like how do we

Ford does this at the beginning when it has nice bits then goes to the tri uh the Halloween shop it can't see sort of thing.

It it's nice having these opening bits.

Um

Actually the other day I think I throw threw on Halloween five.

No, it was Halloween four.

It I threw on the other day because it was on tube or something just while I was doing stuff around the house.

So I know the movie, I'm just gonna chuck it on because it's it's a

It's the season to be spooky.

And um uh it starts off really nice shots of like Halloween, autumn and all the colours.

And so when we cut to this, it's very much like Hoobie Halloween, where it's uh like a love letter to what's up my mouth.

It

To the autumnness and the colours and all that stuff.

I was driving through this amazing scenery today where it's just all orange trees everywhere.

The road is wet, it's fucking gorgeous 'cause I live quite

Mainly.

There are definitely weak entries, but they do capture that Halloween spirit pumpkins on people's porches and

This cuts to our Haddonfield getting ready for Halloween and this is what we like.

It's big w it's big uh uh crane short shots going down to the cr ground where it's all these kids just running around and what we've come to accustom to it's the blueprinted out

By John Copson, the original film.

And DJ Barry's driving around in his van, sort of with a megaphone, saying, Don't forget tonight, you assholes, there's a big party, blah blah blah.

So they're all getting hyped for it because he's in town as well.

Um luckily

This chief administrator wanted Donald President to come back.

Luckily, fucking it it happens at the same time.

Did they d the chief administrator go like great they're I'll turn up tonight because they're doing a radio show on him and hopefully

This lady will phone in so we I can then get Donald back to the hospital where I can keep an eye on him where under the under the hospital we've got our cult fucking place

Um and soon as I get back there though, because they're there, so it's great for Chief Administrator, Donald Pleasant is there and he's like, I can't do this again, I can't go through it again, you've got to help me.

So um Yeah he says Michael is alive, I can feel it.

Yeah he says I think that I think that was Jamie Lloyd on the radio.

She's she's alive, she didn't die in the explosion at the end of part five

Terence, help me, help me.

So they go to the back to the hospital, they r they request all the files on Michael um so they can really get studying him.

And then someone comes in and says, We can find Jamie's

um Jamie this morning.

She's barely alive.

She's in hospital.

And he's like, we have to go see her.

And then we get to meet um Danny's um

Uncle, well his sorry's grandfather really.

So that's Kara's dad and um Kara's mum.

Um and they are really not very nice to Kara.

I don't need any of this though.

I'm not not really sure.

In the movie.

We could have not had this and just carried on with what we're doing.

It's just more people to get killed though, isn't it?

It's a shame though because we kind of got this whole thing on Donald Presidents and this guy and Paul Rudd

that we don't need any more.

Have them guys going after Donald Pleasant and Donald Pleasant Michael Myers.

I think that'd be quite good, but yeah, throwing us in yeah.

The only the only th good thing about it is they all don't they don't realise that they're living in the

That's the only thing that's the only a connection.

I don't know we need to I don't know feel that we needed to fucking go into it all so much their fucking backstory so much, you know what I mean?

Well

he slaps his daughter, you know, Cara, in front of her son and says, I don't know why you came back, because she calls him a bastard.

And he slaps her and um Danny obviously sees all of this.

And then Danny looks out the window and sees Michael

Outside the window.

Yeah, this is why we need this fan.

He puts a knife up to the dad's groin.

Which sort of scares them all like fucking hell.

So I guess that is why we do need it 'cause we kinda may turn him into the new Michael Myers.

Anyway.

So Ka Cara takes the knife off of him and they all leave.

for the day.

Um and as they leave she says, Hey, who's that weird guy next door?

He was taking photos of me in my underwear.

Oh, that's weird Tommy.

Yeah, don't worry about him.

He's crazy.

He's a loon.

Um when he was a kid he saw his um

His babysitter get terrorized by that Michael Myers, blah blah blah.

So a little bit bit more backstory for them.

Um Tommy listens to last night's radio broadcast on real to real, Gav.

He's recorded it on fucking real to real, not a cassette.

Nope, real to real.

Who's got real to real?

They're recording.

I used to record the charts on cassette tape, but I didn't have real to real in my bedroom.

No.

Uh how old's Danny's mum supposed to be then?

She looks like she's in her thirties.

N I think she's supposed to be in her early twenties.

Right, okay.

Um I think she's probably having 15, 16 when she had him maybe.

So she's probably like twenty-three, twenty-four, I don't know.

Um but we don't really find out much about what happened, but you can imagine that you know They they like to just go, let's just throw a bit of stuff in about this family, but we won't show it all.

So okay.

Now, Loomis and Terence go go to visit this is quite you've got to suspend your disbelief now.

They go to visit this where they found Jamie

Um as her body well she's not dead, but as she's wheeled away in the back of an ambus, there's a huge rune symbol perfectly burnt onto some hay in the body.

They say that Michael did

This Donald President says That's his mark!

That's his mark.

He's never done this before.

It's not his fucking mark.

B this isn't the crow where he sort of sets

fire to that petrol on the ground and it creates a crow symbol, you know, because that's awesome when he did that.

Uh but but Michael and and see

How would Michael do such a such perfect it's perfect?

I did think this, I was like, how the fuck's he done that?

Michael, you are Banksy, my friend.

Maybe Michael Myers is Banksy.

Maybe we've discovered what it is.

Um uh well just before this Tommy finds the uh baby in the bathroom cupboard at the uh uh i in in a moment that is.

That's in just a moment.

Um

Because he's he's he's examining his real to real.

It's not.

Oh, okay.

Well, according to my notes it is.

But he's examining his reel to reel.

Um and in the background he can hear a bus station.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he goes to the bus station.

So he goes to the bus station.

Um and oh yeah, you're right.

He finds the baby in the restroom and then they see the rune symbol.

Sorry, Gabby, you're all right.

Then they see the room symbol and this is where Loomis is like, It's not a ghost and that isn't a ghost over there.

That's Jamie and Michael's back.

I fucking tell you he's back.

Motherfucker listens to me.

It's just like okay, like right, you would chill.

I liked it when you're back at your place chilled out.

Now you're telling me about it was crazy shit and getting all hyper again.

So on a college campus we've got Tim and Kara, who's Tim's um sister, uh and Beth who is

Tim's girlfriend.

And she's like walking along and she accidentally pulls out this picture of a murder scene out of her bag that her son's put in there.

of the whole family being killed by knives.

And they're like, what the fuck's that?

She's like, oh I don't know.

My son draws these pictures.

And like, oh well, I guess it's Halloween.

J just Just going back to uh Paul Rudd Tommy finding the baby in the thing.

Now he finds a baby there.

He doesn't know what the baby is or anything about the baby.

The radio calling didn't say anything about the baby.

He just finds a baby and goes, I'm keeping the baby.

It's because he sees drops of blood and he knows that it was her.

But he just finds that he was like, oh, I'm gonna keep a baby.

No

No, give gat hand a baby and it's really weird that you want to keep baby.

Then all of a sudden all the time you find him a baby later on the woman finds him at his house and he's there with her kid on the bed with a baby.

But like this is really freaky man.

But anyway.

He keeps the baby.

We get a few shots of Cara walking along and they try and recreate that classic Jamie Lee Curtis wandering down the streets with someone following her and peeping up from behind bushes.

And they kind of give it the feel of that.

They do a good job with the the theme and the

the bushes and the trees and Michael is indeed watching Cara.

Um but yes Ant Man then takes the baby to I've put Ant Man for some reason.

Ant Man takes the baby to a hospital.

While he's there he sees Loomis.

And he says, ah, you're Dr.

Loomis.

And he's like, Yes, how do you know me?

He's like, I'm Tommy Doyle, remember?

I was a little kid from Halloween one.

He's like, oh my god, you've grown up, you're a boy, you're a man now.

And he says, you know something?

Michael's still out there and he's like, yes, I know, fucking yes, I know.

He's so happy that someone's like, yes

And he's like, yes, fucking yes.

Um and he tells him about he says there's a the a family, the Strode family, now live in the Myers house.

He sort of teases him because he don't give him any more information and and Donald President's like, oh, oh, and he goes, but I'm not gonna tell you any more now.

Meet me at nine o'clock tonight.

at the Halloween party and he's like, oh, you're busted.

So he's now got to wait until nine o'clock tonight to get the rest of the info dumped from Paul Rudd.

Um so he leaves him

with a semi, but it doesn't finish him off.

Um, not that I really want to think about Donald Pleasant's getting finished off, but there we go.

No.

On a curtain.

By the way, the director of uh uh uh this film uh didn't do that many movies but done loads of TV shows and still making shows now like I've been watching Tulsa King with Sylvester Stallone and he's directed that

Which is really random.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he's working TV directant right now, which is so good for him

Now Michael is spying on his old house at this point, the Meyer's old house, which obviously the Strode family now live in, and he sees Kara's mum.

Taking a box down into the basement, then she takes some laundry upstairs.

And she doesn't see it.

There's always even in the new Halloween, the 2018 one, they did it like quite a one-a-there's always Michael just going to a house with it's like then and the i and I always like the ones when it's uh a lady

in the house doing her house chores and Michael's somewhere in the house and it's that fun game to play as the audience member.

It's something they always do and they always have to put them in there and it's always quite fun

But when she turns around in the kitchen, it's actually Dr.

Loomis in her house.

And he says, I've come to help your family.

Who the fuck are you?

Get out of my house.

That's literally my first thing.

Rather than sit down with him and then ring up this your husband.

Husband, there's someone here.

He's come to help us.

Is he trying to sell you gas or something?

You know

is a crazy old doctor with a really weird whispery voice.

Now Tommy takes the baby so Paul Rudd takes the baby home and says well

I think I'm gonna call you Steven.

I would be s sorry, going back to it, I'd be like, why didn't you ring the doorbell?

Like literally.

Why did you just break in?

Walk in the house to I need to see you.

No

No.

She could have been having a uh cheeky Tommy tank in the kitchen.

Could have been.

Over the table.

But um anyway, uh just as weird is the fact that he just decided no offense to the name Stephen, but when I look at a tiny baby that I found in a

bus station bathroom uh I don't think oh I'm gonna call you Steven.

But he does.

He calls the baby Steven.

And there's a woman that lives.

Not your baby Paul Rudd

There's a woman that lives with him who I I thought was his mum but she's not.

Uh she's like the homeowner or the landlady.

And she's basically just a zombie.

She just sort of walks around s in a daze, not really paying attention to the fact there's now a crying baby in her house.

And then he just looks to the child and he goes

I'll protect you, Stephen.

And Paul Rudd must have been thinking, is this my big bre is this really my big bread?

I'm saying, I'll protect you, Stephen, to a little baby.

I don't know.

Um but back to Lewis, he spills the beans to Kara's mum.

And this is where he really goes into a Michael, he's pure evil, I've seen his eyes.

And he goes and he does all of his favourite sort of

Michael Isms talks about how there's nothing inside of him.

I studied him for years.

Um and he says and Jamie's still alive.

She's fighting for a life in hospital.

Um and then he leaves.

So she calls her husband and she says

There was a man here, um, saying, you know, that we live in this house, you bastard.

You didn't tell me you bought this house so cheap because this is the house where all the people were killed by Michael Myers, you son of a bitch.

And while she's on the phone to her asshole husband who says

You're talking shit, you know, da da da.

Michael appears behind her.

Um again, you like these um so do I.

Love these in Halloween where Michael's just just stood there and the the person that we're f following doesn't know he's there.

And then she gets a phone call.

And it's just the voice that says, We want the child.

What the fuck's going on?

So she's she says

She sees Michael, she runs outside into a classic horror trope.

She runs outside, there's loads of white sheets hanging on the washing line.

And someone's in the sheets, she falls over, an axe gets lifted up in the air, and blood goes all over the sheets.

And it's great.

You know, less is more.

You don't need to see it.

We know it's happened and the blood on the white looks great.

And that's the end of her.

She's dead.

Yep.

So then we see the man in black, the sort of cowboy hatted, cowboy boot wearing man, spying on people, spying on Tommy, uh Danny, and Tommy goes over and starts talking to him.

Um Kara uh she walks home alone.

She walks in and she's like, Mom!

There's no one there

And we think, oh shit, she's gonna find her mum's body in a minute.

She searches the whole house, she can't find it's I've written here it's really good tension this this point.

She's walking around the house.

It's really good because we're expecting her to see the body of her mum.

Yeah.

But it doesn't actually happen.

Instead, she finds her son playing a Game Boy.

on the bed with a random stranger that perverting a baby next to a neighbor.

Stephen, baby Stephen.

Who's a pervert and he's got a baby now, you'd be like, you didn't have a baby yesterday, where where's the baby coming from, Stephen?

Or baby Stephen.

And the first thing he says to her, she's like, who are you?

And he goes, You're in danger, Kara.

Why don't you two come to my house with me now?

And she does.

And she goes, Yeah, all right.

Yeah.

Okay, Paul Rudd, you're devastatingly happy.

I'll just come to your house with you.

So he takes her to the house and he says

I think Michael is coming back and I want you to watch your house very carefully from my bedroom window.

Because trust me, I can see your house really well from my bedroom window.

Ignore those tissues down there on the window sill.

Um and all those Polaroid pictures I've got of you in your underwear.

Let me put all that away.

Yeah, that that lube, that isn't anything.

But yeah, I can see your house really well from my bedroom window.

So I want you to watch it and see if anything strange happens in your house.

He also explains about the star concept.

The fawn, which is the star constellation, which when it aligns when Michael kills or something?

Yeah, well um we'll come to that in just a moment.

So bef just before that, uh we see Jamie in the hospital.

And she's lying in the bed and she's sort of having a a nightmare about having her baby in the labour.

And we see in the flashbacks of her nightmare that Michael was stood right there in the corner of the room watching her have this baby, his own baby

His niece was having his own baby.

It's all very.

And then as she's sort of she's sort of dreaming, a gun is slowly pressed to her forehead and bang.

Someone's assassinated her.

Um, which is crazy really.

Um, and that's the end of Jamie really.

Um

Loomis i obviously goes insane when he finds out that she's been killed in hospital.

Um he sees the body and he sort of says, I can't believe you've let this happen.

You're supposed to be under protection.

She's dead, Jamie!

This is that's the end of Daniel Harris's character, really.

She's been shot in the head.

Um Tommy, go back going back to what you were saying then.

So Tommy's on the very early internet, and he says to Cara.

And this is the really bad like scripting that he had to do though.

And he basically explains that that symbol that was burnt into the hay, the symbol that

your son keeps drawing is the symbol of Thorn who is an evil demon from pagan Celtic times and it's all linked to sacrifices um

They used to do it in on ancient times in Hall on Halloween.

Um so basically every whatever many years it is, seventeen years or something, when the constellation forms that sign in the sky, that's when someone

wipes out an entire family, meaning the rest of the village can thrive and survive.

Um and Michael is the one that's been doing it for these last few years.

That's where he comes back on some Halloween.

When you get that script and you're reading it going, Oh my god, what is this bollocks?

I'm getting paid.

I'm getting paid $5,000 or whatever it was.

He probably got paid.

And he says, all I can tell you is we've got to find Loomis and we've got to find him now.

Um so Tommy leaves Danny in Cara.

He says, stay here.

Don't go back to your own house.

Stay in my house where it's safe with my lunatic landlady.

and it was all going to be fine and I'll go off and find Loomis because I've said I'll meet him at 9 o'clock tonight.

I've got to go.

So he runs out.

So Loomis is told

by the doctor.

Well we've examined her um and it turns out you know I know she's dead but it turns out she had a baby less than 24 hours ago.

And he holds up a vial and he goes, this is um whatever it is like uh blood from from an afterbirth.

And he's like, yeah, she definitely had a baby 24 hours ago.

And Lumen's just like we have to find that baby

Find it immediately.

I think I know where it is.

And he remembers he saw Ant-Man with a baby in the hospital.

So he knows where that baby is.

So, Tommy now is at the town Halloween fan.

Uh we've got we've got the dad that comes home.

Uh

Yeah, that's in just a moment.

Um Tom Tom Tommy's at the Halloween fair and the man in black is there as well, but it's a a bit of a red herring because it turns out that that's DJ Barry in a in a pair of underwear.

Nothing more underneath it.

DJ Barry.

He makes his guest appearance.

Um and he sort of says, Yay, welcome everybody.

It's me, you sons of bitches, and they're like, Woo, he's such a great guy.

Woohoo.

It's really odd to

Throw him in a little bit, then just gets then he's taken out the films really quickly.

Seems weird.

Well now Kara's dad comes home, probably a bit drunk, to an empty house.

He's like, I'm home.

Where's my goddamn dinner?

Where is everybody?

He's not a very nice person.

Then the lights cut out

And he's like, oh for God's sake.

And he hears a noise in the basement and he thinks, well how can the washing machine be going when there's

No power in the place.

So did Michael rewire the entire house so that only the washing machine works, but the rest of the house has no power?

Is that what he did?

I don't know

It's one of his other skills, apart from the umbrella, secret umbrella, and his teleportation speed skills, he can also do DIY electrical stuff.

The master electrician.

Um but

It's a great bit of tension here because he heads down into the dark basement which is now flooded from the washing machine and the washing machine is rattling away like

And we we we think we know what's in there.

We think it's probably gonna be Kara's mind.

Yeah, yeah, it's like that.

Um he opens the washing machine, it's actually some bloody sheets in there.

We do get some pl classic Halloween piano.

Yeah

And then reenact that for us.

Yeah, it's kind of.

And then Michael stabs him with a crowbar through the chest.

He goes straight into the uh electrical board in the basement.

Not only is he stabbed, he's also being electrocuted to death.

And I put in brackets.

Fully deserved that.

Michael must have been wearing rubber soled shoes.

Of course.

Because he stood in water.

And he's there.

And he's holding a metal crowbar.

Yeah.

But yeah, that's another one of his skills.

Doesn't conduct electricity.

He's got a lot of skills, Michael, hasn't he?

Like a Swiss army knife, isn't he?

Yes.

It is a Swiss army thermost.

Yeah.

My kids love Hubie's thermos as well because they cannot get their head around it.

It's a vacuum, a torch, a megaphone.

a uh at one point it's a grappling hook they think it's brilliant that he's got that they absolutely love it that's funny it's such a great film sorry I keep talking about who being Halloween so um Barry

is now giving a big speech to the crowd of Haddenfield and he's talking about why he's there, why Halloween should come back to Halloween.

And the residents are saying we want to bring it back.

It's been so many years now.

We want Halloween.

We want to celebrate it.

You know, Michael's not coming back.

He's dead as far as we all know.

And

Yeah, it's uh it's revealed because Tim accidentally slips up and says, well, Tim doesn't know this.

His girlfriend Beth says, well, Tim, my boyfriend, is moved into the Myers old house.

And he's like, what?

Yeah, so the DJ so that's amazing.

We're good, let's go live from the house, which is I was like, oh my god, it's going into Buster Rhymes Halloween resurrection territory here.

I watched this the other night.

Trick-a-trick motherfucker.

I put it on Ben was round and I was like, I was gonna put this on the background.

And he's like, I don't remember this movie, and I was like, yeah.

Um anyway, um

So I thought he was going that to you.

I was like, oh I'm quite looking forward to doing like a ra live radio I was like, I don't remember this at all.

A live radio s show at the Miles House.

I and then he could get killed while live and everyone heard it on the radio.

I thought that'd have been really cool.

No

No, he's killed straight away before he even gets to the house.

Yeah, he gets in it he calls his assistant and says, Why am I what am I doing here in this shithole of a town?

The only thing I've got going now is I'm gonna be going to the Meyer's house in a minute.

Um

And I'll be there in a minute to broadcast like but then he's he's killed by Michael in his van.

And his death, his the way his body is discovered, is probably one of the darkest moments in the film with that little kid underneath it, which we'll get to in a moment.

Um so so Beth and Tim head back to the to Tim's house and he says to her, Is my is my house really where it all happened?

She's like, Yeah, didn't you know that?

And he's like, Jesus, no, I didn't know that.

Pretty fucking creeped out that there was so much murder in my house.

I like this bit though.

She's dressed as a bride of Frankstein and they actually end up doing a re

make of the first kill which Michael sees when he sees his sister going upstairs to have sex.

She pulls him upstairs holding her hands up a staircase and I was like, that's really sneakily done.

Yeah, yeah.

It's good and it's actually there is I say it's cheaply made, but there is some good someone loved the films without being too f over the top of them, you know

Yeah.

Well Tommy's waiting and Tommy back to Tommy.

He's still at this um party and he's waiting to meet Loomis and he hears us somebody saying it's raining red.

It's raining red, mummy.

It's raining red.

He's sort of singing and he walks around the corner of this tree and there's this little um little girl, isn't it?

And she's

Rain's dripping all over, but it's not rain.

It's and she said, It's warm.

The r the rain is warm and then he looks up and he sees that

It's the DJ Barry whose body then falls out of the tree.

How did Michael kill the DJ then slow deezy walks is another skill he has

How did he somehow, without anyone seeing, go over and put a body up in a tree?

I know, it's like right in the middle of the party.

How did he do that?

Did he just throw him up there?

I don't know.

It must be another skill he's got.

Uh and yeah, the Barry's body falls out of the tree um and Loomis and Tommy see it and they say, well well let's we better get over to the Myers house now.

Let's go.

They go they go then the two couple who have just gone upstairs to Shag, they have sex very quickly, like in the original movie, but they're like

Oh, it's so funny doing it in your sister's bed.

This guy has his own bed in the house, but he has sex in his sister's bed.

And she's she cause she wants to do that and it's like, why does your girlfriend have sex in your sister younger sister's bed?

It's really weird.

That's not like a fun exciting thing, let's just do it in your bed.

That's like in um that scene in um

What's the movie where the they got the home invasion and they don't realise that the Australian girl is a badass?

Um

You know, and then it turns out it's the the family that are in on it.

Oh what you know, the one I mean.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um and then the girl at one point says

Let's have sex right next to your mother's corpse.

Come on, it already turned me on.

And he's like, Why?

Yeah.

I mean it's a more extreme version of that, but uh he he then shouts and this is the first time I think I've ever seen it.

Michael Myers is a a a towel maiden.

And and hands it hands him a towel in the shower.

Why does Michael even do this?

I've written that bit.

Why does he do it?

And he's like, I gotta stay fresh, so I gotta have a quick shower

Did he go, I need a towel?

Did Michael then look around and go, there's a towel?

Just instantly without thinking about the killer f killer inside him, get a towel and hand him a towel.

It seems so funny that he would do it.

And you just see this grubby the shower curtain.

I want to see a wide shot of the bathroom at Michael just doing that.

And he's he hands him a lovely green folded towel, but he's got his rune symbol on his wrist.

But then he waits till he's out and looking in the mirror and then he stitched his throat.

So when he does that he then goes, I'm now gonna hide.

Okay, where are you hiding?

I don't know where.

Maybe when he steps out of the shower, he gets in the curtain from the other side and steps in the shower, so he doesn't see him.

I it is Michael Myers has very many skills and he hands tails out.

He's like near Nissan and taken.

Um he now while this is all going on obviously there's no power in the house so they had to have sex by candlelight.

So Kara and her son are in the house opposite and they can see

People are in the Maya's house, their house.

So she phones up and she says, Beth, this is a great moment actually.

Beth, there's somebody in the room with you.

There's someone in the room with you.

Uh and she can't stop what's about to happen, which is that she sees this could have been done with a load more tension if they just planned this a little bit more.

There's a certain things they could have built this up a bit more, kind of like have you checked the children.

Yeah, it's already quite tense, but it's could have been much much more tense.

But it's good, it's a good little tidbit tension.

It's okay, it could have it could have been a lot more scarier

So Kara Cara runs into the house, crosses over and goes into the house, heads up into the uh the bedroom and she finds Beth and Tim dead in her bed.

Why does she not rent naked?

I'm not sure because the brain definitely works.

Well when she before she'd have to run over there, ring the police, then run over there.

But okay, let's just go with instinct.

She she finds Danny in a trance.

Um and then Michael enters

Not sure where the baby is at this point.

Oh, I think the old lady next door, Paul Rudson landlady, still got the baby, I think.

Um Michael enters the house

And some dead person sort of drops down.

Michael loves displaying his bodies as we've discussed.

He he does have a weird thing with that.

She trips Michael and he falls down the stairs.

He's like Banksy, isn't he?

Yeah, little bits of artwork here and there.

DJ Barry in the tree.

I call this one DJ Barry in the tree.

Tommy and Loomis arrive outside and Kara

It's a great another great little bit of tension.

Could have been better, but it was pretty good.

Michael's body is lying lifeless at the bottom of the stairs and she has to sort of step over him to get her a son.

And as she just steps past him, he grabs her ankle.

She manages to escape and they run next door.

Tommy lets them in.

Um and he says the baby's gone.

The baby's gone.

Yeah, and he's got his it's got his old phone.

And they're saying, Where's the baby?

Where's the baby?

Then

uh uh the lady comes in and says where's the baby where's the baby and I'm again going I don't know where is the baby tell someone tell us where's the baby

Werewolf, therewolf, where's the baby?

There baby.

Um, and then Danny hears Come to me, Danny.

Freddie Kruger again.

And I don't know if they all hear that voice.

So and it's so all of a sudden Danny just turns around and walks out and they just go, Oh, let's just now stop everything and follow this young child into another room.

Why?

I don't know why

And they and in there is the doctors or the head chief's uh administrator from the hospital who Loomis was gonna team up with, is sitting there.

And then there's loads of OAPs in cult members' outfit, like the NWA from Hot Fuzz.

Yep.

It's like what's going on now?

Where's just Michael My everyone's like we just want Michael Myers killing people?

What's going on?

And even the crazy old lady, Paul Rudd's landlady, she's in on it as well.

Of course she is.

Of course she is.

So Cara does a Texas change to the massacre, she jumps out the window and runs off.

uh and there's loads of cult members swarm the room, um and then we cut to Loomis and Tommy

And they just sort of stood outside the house going, I feel like I've been drugged.

What happened here?

Why are they now outside and feel like they've been drugged?

And Numir says, We have been drugged.

It's what they do.

How does he know?

He's never knew anything about this.

A minute ago they were in s all in another room saying, Where's the baby?

They walk into the other thing, the chief administration, then all of a sudden it cuts to them outside going

We've been drugs.

Why are they outside now?

We should really have seen them being injected, knocked out, and then.

Why were they just put out on the street?

Why did they just kill them?

Because we don't really even see them catch Kara.

We just suddenly see Kara lying on an altar in a fancy dress.

Yeah.

Um

Uh and something's about to happen to her and we don't know what and then So Tommy and Loomis head to Smith's grove.

They go back to where the chief administrator is, where obviously the cult thing is underneath.

But yeah we I think we missed a scene.

There must have

Yeah.

There is the producer's cut and I didn't watch this, we should have said about this.

I remember buying it on eBay like a fucking pirate videotape.

So you've seen it?

Of the producer's cut, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Of a videotape.

I've never seen it.

I think it's on in parts on YouTube.

Uh yeah.

Oh I've seen it's got runestone pictures like animation not animation but like drawings sort of thing and stuff.

I remember that but can't remember much more so

Yeah.

Well Loomis um gets asked by Terrence, he's like, so will you join the Avengers?

Pretty much says, you know, would you want to join my cult?

Yeah.

And Loomis is like, no, I've fought my whole life against

Michael and and therefore you guys, so I won't ever join you.

Um meanwhile Tommy's in the corridor following one of the cult members around.

They knock out Loomis.

They do no knock him out and he says

Leave him there.

It's his office now.

Well what's that mean?

I don't know.

Um Tommy follows the cult member and he sees

the cavern with all the candles in it that was in the opening scene.

And this time it's Kara that's tied to the altar.

Um and there's a baby on the altar as well.

And they're starting a ritual and even

Even old Mikey Myers is stood there in the corner like a good dog waiting.

Um and it looks what they're like what they're trying to do is kill the bit Michael's gotta kill the baby, his own baby.

Then

Um why was Michael humping his niece in the first place then?

Does he keep the mask on?

I would hope he would.

For protection.

Um

Uh so I think what what they're planning on doing is Michael has to kill the baby and that's his final kill and then they'll pass the curse on to Tommy, uh to Danny.

the little boy and he will then have to kill his own mum and that's where the whole process starts again and he's the new Michael and that's what they're planning on doing and that's why this time around I actually got the plot I understood

what was going on, whereas all the times I've watched this, probably this is probably about the sixth or seventh time I've watched this, I'd never really got what the fuck was going on really.

I just was bored.

But because I'm making notes on it and I'm understanding it this time around, I understood it.

Um so it's the cult of Thorn.

Um Loomis, like I say, yeah, he's he comes to later on.

It comes to save the day, of course.

Um Cara asks Michael, she says, Michael, don't kill the baby

The baby's yours, Michael.

Isn't it?

Isn't it?

And this is where I'm like, is it?

This is where it's really revealed that you're like, what?

So he had sex with his own niece.

Yeah, it's really weird.

It's so strange.

Um Tommy grabs Terence and puts a knife to his throat.

So he bursts in and sort of puts a knife to his throat.

And he manages to get Kara, the baby, and Danny out of there.

They all run off.

The alarms all start going off and the lights are flashing and they realize they're kind of locked in really they're trying to get out of this asylum.

Paul rides to the schools.

I'm gonna cut my hand, wipe my blood on the floor, then throw some runstones on it.

Michael just walks all over this and it does

do anything whatsoever.

It seems complete pointless waste of blood.

But it no, but it does work 'cause it freezes Michael like a lot of things.

Is that what it does?

Oh right, okay.

Like this m so this is again suspend your disbelief and it's nothing to do with the originals.

There's no magic in

any of the other ones but in this one if you cut a symbol into your hand and throw some runestones on the floor Michael will freeze in his tracks and not be able to move

And it it doesn't really make any sense.

He just stands like a statue.

So they managed to get away because of that.

And outside they see Loomis.

They're like, Loomis, come with us.

And he says, no, I must go back in there.

He goes back in there and just before this happened we did see the chief administrator again walk up to Michael and say, What have they done to you, Michael?

And then it cuts to the outside, Loomis says, I gotta go back in there, Loomis goes back in there.

We see Michael light now lying on the floor with the mask on.

But no

No, Michael has another power.

He can switch clothes with people in seconds and even even though they're different sizes.

Literally take his other guy's trousers off, his trousers off and go, I've got an idea.

And do this while he was frozen, he came up with an idea and somehow managed to do this with the other guy going, okay, that's cool.

It's such a weird thing now.

Really weird.

Because Lum Loomis has a gun and he walks up to what he thinks is Michael lying on the floor.

It's like a rushing through the film now.

He says, It's over, Michael.

And he pulls the mask off and he sees it's actually Terence and Terence is like, How did I get here?

Yeah.

Oh Micha Michael's gone.

Um it's like they're making it up as they were shooting honestly, it's like they're making it up at this point here.

Well talking of making it up, I do not understand this next moment where a rune symbol does go to shoes.

It appears on Loomis's hand.

So what has he got the curse now?

Is Loomis gonna be the new Michael?

I don't understand.

And then and then we see Michael in a trench coat and hat

walking through some sewers or something and then I think with his hand.

And then yeah, and then I don't know if the rune symbol disappears or if he's got the curse.

And where's the baby?

Well Paul Rudd's taking it with Kara and Danny and they've gone off.

But it's never resolved because all of a sudden Loomis screams at this rune symbol in his hand and then we just see a jack-o-lantern candle blown out and that's the end.

And it that is that's the trouble with this.

It's so rushed here.

I think this is a trouble.

I was watching a master class on DJing.

And I I didn't really get much from it, but that's not the point.

But the one thing I did get from it is like people always remember when you DJ the first and last songs you played

And I was like, that really rings true to a lot of things, films and all sorts.

And with this movie, I think with my my a lot of movies, you could watch a great movie, then if the ending just fails and f feels

you know flops a bit you kind of just go uh where otherwise if it'd be good but I want to watch that film again you know and this here just like what went on I don't understand

Well there's no explanation or resolution of where that rune symbol came from on his hand and and okay I know there's magic in the mix now, which is okay, I don't agree with that, but whatever, they put that into this plot

But I don't know if he suddenly had the curse.

Should he then have killed himself?

I'd like two th I'd like two things in this film.

I'd like a scene where you see Tommy and and Loomis get

knocked out like we said and then capture Kara I get that they're going for the whole where are we they must have taken Kara I feel like we've been drugged we have

But it would have been better if we'd have seen that.

Just a minute scene.

And I would also like an explanation as to what's what's happening with Loomis at the end.

Because all we know is Michael's now got a trench coat, cowboy boots, and a

ha cowboy hat and he's walking off into the sunset and he lost his screaming lost his virginity to his knees.

Yeah good lad not um it's weird

Um and and we don't know if Loomis is now cursed or not.

We don't know if Michael's gonna carry on killing or not.

And we don't know if you keep a baby?

That's weird.

Is he gonna hook up with Cara, his neighbour that he spied on?

Yes and then raise raise her son and baby's.

And they won't be traumatized and they just go back to the houses where their dead families are?

Maybe this baby will grow up to be Steven Squell.

I don't know

So yeah, I really would like a bit more of an explanation as that ending and perhaps I'll hunt down the cut.

Yeah.

Because I think we should and we can come back to it.

What I would say is this time around I did enjoy this a lot more.

Um and definitely think I definitely think this is better than five.

Yeah, I agree.

Um four's still better, I think.

Um yeah, four's better than this.

It's gonna be

Yeah, four's better than this than five.

But I can see why they start again

So next year we'll be covering H20, which is bringing back Jamie D.

Curtis.

Really feels like a screen 90s style, proper slasher.

Yeah, it does.

I enjoy the next one.

And even Resurrection, from what I remember a bit is good.

I don't remember Rink Regeneration.

I don't know that film at all.

Isn't there one after that called Halloween Regeneration?

Or am I making that up?

I think you're making it up.

Oh Jesus, I'm sure there was a regeneration.

And let me just have a quick look.

I'm sure there was uh another one after that, but I probably got that wrong.

No, you you're you're making up a movie in your head.

Well well that'd be awesome if there was one, but let's have a look.

Uh Halloween Resurrection

Oh no, you're right.

Fuck me, I've just made up made up one up.

Goes to regeneration.

It does.

Um, so yeah, look, I think I can't it really pains me to say this, but the

This is a better made film than than the Freddy film we've covered, but it's let down by the

Really confusing ending.

At least the Freddy at least with the Freddy movie the whole thing is confusing

And you're kind of on board for that all the way through.

And when it ends, you just kind of like, oh well, that was that.

With this one, you kind of get a little bit invested in it and then it ends and you don't get any explanation.

So it's kind of a bit off, no.

Yeah, there's no function.

I only give it a thumbs up for uh uh people who wanna finish the series.

I don't know if you need to watch it, but it's not the worst film which I initially thought was, so I think

The behind the scenes is more interesting than the film.

There's a lot that went on behind the scenes, um, with the production rights, uh the the cut of it and the producers really being unhappy with it, and the director being unhappy with what's being done and and Doctor

You know, Donald Pleasant's wanting to come back and deliver his final good performances, Dr.

Loomis and I think he did a good job in this and

Yeah, but it's just a very confusing film.

These these two films, part six, of both of these franchises we've covered in this episode.

Very odd films in the franchise.

And the only really redeeming quality is that number five for both of them was worse than these two.

Yeah.

Um, but I think we're through the worst of it.

So next year, guys, uh, we'll be covering Halloween H20.

Yeah

uh which is a really enjoyable film Gab and I both really love that and we'll be covering um New Nightmare which Gav hasn't seen and I'm really excited for you to see that it's definitely one of my favourite Freddy's

So come back next year for Halloween and that's what we'll be doing.

Fun stuff.

But we did it, Gav.

We got through part six of both of them.

Um we made a mu we mainly made sense of Halloween six, but it's still very confusing

It is it is still the spooky season, so I feel like we should come back now and do a little bit of our outros for the uh for so everyone could go out there and go trinkle treating.

We'll be back in a minute.

And we're back, back, back, back, back again.

I hope everyone's having a nice Halloween.

Enjoyed listening to us speaking.

Indeed.

Uh I'm trying to think of what Halloween, because normally I always eat Halloween treats.

I've been eating the usual stuff, you know, cakes that are shaped like pumpkins and

I bought some um Halloween donuts probably two months ago.

I sent you the picture of them, Gav.

Halloween donuts in August.

I ate them.

What what's that?

Oh like um, season it was uh uh

Pigs under blankets, crabberry juice.

Cranberry juice?

Cranberry sauce, bacon and sauce.

Pigs under blankets.

No, it's called pigs under blankets.

It's in a sandwich.

Pig's under pan.

Um uh yeah, um I it's a shame really.

I like savory more than sweet, so I wish Halloween had more savory stuff going on, but you know.

Yeah, it's more about the sweet, isn't it?

Um everybody even pumpkin pie or those cooks.

Like funky sausage rolls or something.

Yeah.

Anyway.

Well there we go.

There we go.

So that was episode 185.

That was our annual Halloween special.

We'll be coming back in neck next year for part seven of both those franchises.

But I know you're desperate to know what's coming up.

What's coming up, Dan?

What's coming up?

It's coming up, it's coming up, it's there.

Um next episode, episode 186.

We're going find footage.

Oh yeah, baby.

Possibly one of the greatest Halloween pranks pulled on the United Kingdom.

We'll be covering 1992's Ghost Watch.

So keeping it still a bit Halloween-y

Um but that is a fantastic phone footage uh mockumentary almost, isn't it, that one?

Because it was broadcast live.

Uh well I say live, it was shot and then broadcast.

We're we'll go through it but it'd be interesting.

Uh I watched it live.

It's like a modern day world.

I think I must have done because I remember talking about it at school.

So we must have done.

Yeah

We must have done that.

I would have been eleven, I think.

No, thirteen.

Thirteen I would have been.

Didn't it come out in eighty-seven?

92.

Oh okay.

So I'd have been fourteen, you would have been fifteen.

Right.

So yeah, I definitely did watch it in that case.

Right, yeah, makes sense

And like in fact I can still see the picture of the front of the Radio Times with Michael Aspel sat on the front um tune in tonight, you know, blah blah blah, that kind of thing.

So it's we're getting to it because it's a whole thing.

Yeah

It's a whole thing.

And we're pairing that up with a a similarly themed but more theatrical p uh story, Late Night with the Devil from twenty twenty three, which I've only seen the once.

Um I think you said you've only seen it once as well.

Maybe you've seen it twice now.

Um

You recommended that to me and I am glad you did.

I really enjoyed that, so that's a good one to talk about as well.

It goes crazy towards the end, but I think if you

If you stick with it and enjoy the ride, lean into it.

It's a fun one.

So a couple of fine footage ones there.

I know, looking forward to that.

And then episode 187 after that will be a director's special

Mr.

Lucio Folci will be uh under the spotlight.

A guy who loves his gore, his zombies, his cannibalism, and just generally a bit batshit crazy.

Looking forward to that.

There'll be a lot of maggots in that one.

We'll be covering two of his films, City of the Living Dead from 1980.

And The House by the Cemetery from 1981.

Yeah.

Uh House by the Cemetery is a great title for a film.

It is.

So yeah, it's a couple of great great films there.

And we'll we'll obviously go into sort of his career and his backstory a little bit.

And then after that it will be a

Episode 188, but I don't have anything to tell you about that yet.

Because I don't have the picks, so.

That's a blank slate at the moment, but we'll be easing our s our way towards Christmas.

Um so bear that in mind.

Over the next sort of couple of months we'll be dropping a Christmas special on you, which is crazy.

But yeah, that's what's coming out.

So we've got some Fangfootage, some Fulcchi, and then a patron pic.

And as you know with patron picks, anything goes, it could be anything.

Who knows?

We'll find out.

So that's it from us.

Thank you everybody for listening.

Thanks, Gav, again, for celebrating Halloween with me.

Thanks for bearing with my

Compulsions of watching all the franchises.

Yes, I know.

I uh yeah, I swore last year.

This year I didn't swear as much.

As always, the discussion about the film is much more entertaining than the film itself sometimes, isn't it?

It is.

Um although these, you know, six of Halloween was a better film.

And I was I didn't believe you when you messaged me and said

I think I've really enjoyed this actually compared to previous watches and I thought this isn't true.

And I watched it and thought, he's right.

I was in bed I did a double bill and I was like watching some films and just had a good old time and I was just like I kind of enjoyed that and I don't know why maybe I was in the

good mood, I don't know, but no.

Yeah, the ending's awful, but everything else about it was alright.

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Forty-seven posts had been marked as spam and therefore were pending.

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Yes, so they cover uh mainly true crime, but they veer off into other sort of X-File.

They're almost like the British Scully and Mulder

Um, you two.

Um, except it's uh Sarah that more believes and you're the one that's sort of like, nah.

Nah, unless it's Bigfoot.

You believe in Bigfoot more than anything and aliens.

But yeah, you covered Nazis and their obsession with the occult, time travel, aliens, and many other crazy things.

Really big episode for you guys, 100 episodes and still going strong.

So well done to you guys for that.

Thank you very much.

Um also within DevOrt Films we have a YouTube channel

Uh again just search for Deadport Films on YouTube.

That's where you can catch lots of movies.

If you fancy watching some fang footage, you can watch Amanda.

uh which is our most recent one.

We've also got a short Star Wars film on there called Sanctuary Moon, if you like Predator slash Star Wars fit type films.

Yep.

With a bit of gore in there, then you can watch that as well.

There's a few other short films as well in there, other horror movies we've made.

So Yeah, over the years it's been going about

13, 14 years now perhaps.

Um and on Instagram, it's just Deadboard Films All OneWord, and you'll get some little behind the scenes if you follow us on there of what's going on, little teasers about projects upcoming

And finally, if you wish to become a patron supporter, uh we would really appreciate that.

Patron supporters get a few perks.

Not only do they get a t-shirt in one of three colours sent out to them.

Dan says Polaroids.

Paul Rudd sends out Polaroids of his next door neighbour.

Um not only do you get the t-shirt, you also get exclusive access to some of the content like

the mini episodes we're putting out over the course of this month.

There'll probably be six or seven of those by the end of the month.

And breaking down everything that we're reviewing in part of our 31 days.

And every episode we've ever done is on Patreon.

It indeed.

You'll also get a shout-out at the end of each of our main episodes and you get to pick a patron, pig, pig, pig, pig, pig, pig, which is every th one of every three episodes.

Um

one of our patrons gets to tell us what two films they want us to watch.

We'll review them and we'll read out your email or anything else you want us to say or do.

We'll literally be your performing monkeys for that episode.

in our little monkey suits and we'll love to do that for you.

If you wish to become a patron for as little as a pound or a dollar a month, we would really appreciate that.

You can just go over to Patreon

And search for the podcast on Haunted Hill and subscribe.

Like I said, even if you just want to do it for the month of October, or a month after October, by the time you're listening to this, um you can just then check out all of the sort of short episodes we've done.

just breaking down what we've reviewed for our 30 months and then you can unsubscribe.

So we've had people do that in the past and that's not a problem.

Um it's a really

Great that anybody bothers to, you know, help us out in the financial way.

Uh the money does all go towards buying new equipment um and renting and tracking down more obscure films.

Um we are in the process of

potentially buying me a new mic, um it's just to make my side of things even more clearer and more

professional.

So that's something we might be doing with our patron uh from our patron supporters.

So thank you guys.

Um so yeah, let's give them all a thank you and say happy Halloween to all of our patrons and to everybody else.

You guys I do appreciate your patrons.

Thanks very much

much so thank you very much and happy halloween to our patrons who are Sheila Dante Don Collier Matthew Godley

Jamie Jenkins, Kevin S.

Fife, Sarah Kay, Rachel, RJ McCready and Lex Pooh

Happy Halloween, you sons of bitches.

We love you all so much and we love everybody for listening, supporting.

We have had a real spike in uh downloads and streams over the last six months.

Excuse me.

I'm not sure what we're doing, but obviously something because more people are listening than ever, uh and downloading and streaming than ever.

The last few episodes particularly, including the Patreon picks, have seemed to got a lot of hits, so

Someone out there is obviously sharing this with their friends.

So if you'd want to do the same, we'd really appreciate that.

You can leave a review, you can share, you can comment, you can like, you can do what you like.

Do what you want, basically.

It's your life.

Yeah.

Do it how you want it.

That's it, that's it from us girl.

That was our Halloween special.

Be safe if you're out there trickle treating or whatever you'd be doing and hopefully you get through your 31 and 31.

If your dad suddenly takes out

a life assurance policy on you, then don't eat Halloween candy that he gives you.

No.

And uh I'd say if you're uh locking in a

Make sure you lock the doors and check the cupboard and watch out for Donald Pleasants.

He might be hiding behind the curtains.

I'm to help you do your laundry.

Why yeah?

Your laundry!

Imagine if that's what he meant when he said, I've come to help your family.

Do what?

Clean!

Oh, oh, great, thanks.

But um yeah, it's a good night from Paul Rudd peering at you from his window, taking pictures of you and your underwear.

Good night for Donald Pleasance.

It's a good night from Roseanne.

Just jumping out of nowhere and telling you she's gonna take you home and look after you.

It's a good night from Sharon Stone's ham sandwich.

J

And it's a good night from you, Gav.

And it's a good night from again Sharon Stone's ham sandwich.

Good night.

That deserves two goodnights.

Good night.

Happy Halloween.

Stay spooky.

Thank you for listening to the Podcast on Haunted Hill.

We will be back again real soon.