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Hello and welcome to the podcast on Haunted Hill episode 181. I never heard that in darts because you couldn't get to that number. My name's Gav.

My name's Dan. We are your intrepid hosts of the world of movies and everything funny that comes with it, aren't we? We are indeed living here in our little house on Haunted Hill. Our little bubble.

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Yeah, you already know what this is, but we are continuing on. Every now and again, we go back to a franchise as we're working our way through quite a lot of the big franchises in horror. And this time around, we're going back to...

Charles Lee Ray, the doll called Chucky, to pick up the next two films, movies in the franchise. And we will be looking at, Cap's got a lot to say on this next one, Seed of Chucky.

from 2004 um and following on from that the curse of chucky from 2013 so seed of seed of chucky was originally going to be called son of chucky cult not curse

No, curse of Chucky. Are we doing curse? We're doing curse. Cult follows on after it. Oh dear.

No, we're doing curse, because Colt's after that. Seed of Chucky was originally going to be called Son of Chucky, and I think that was a better name, but Seed of Chucky is what it is.

Yeah, so that's what we're doing for this episode. We're excited to come back and do a little bit of Chucky, although in some ways Seed might be the weakest entry in the franchise, but we'll discuss it in the same lighthearted way we do.

I'm just checking that I've done the right film. It's never happened before.

It could be a first here on the podcast. It's because, do you remember when you sent it over, you sent me the wrong one, and then I did the... I did. I did. And then I was like, okay, fine. And then I... No, I think... It's the one in the house, yes?

One in the house with the girl in the wheelchair played by. Brilliant. I've done that then. It's not the one in the asylum later on.

I thought it was cold. See, I don't even know if I've seen that one. Thank fuck for that. Sorry, listeners. I went silent for a little while then. It's the panic setting. The colour drained out of his face. Oh.

I think I've reviewed the wrong film. It would have been a one man review, but it's good. We would have made it work. Yeah, absolutely. Because I do know this film very well. So you could have done that and I could have probably still stepped in. But yes, thank fuck for that. Anyway.

Right, you got back to regular programming, get out of here now. Right, okay, so, fine. Both films written and directed by the same person who is the originator of the films, which is Don Mancini, and it's really funny because one of them...

shit and one of them's pretty good so what's that all about maybe money well maybe producers probably i can tell you now what happened with the with the curse um basically seed

They tried to follow on from the funny stuff that happened in Bride. Yeah. And it didn't work. So... he decided I'm gonna actually go back to what made this franchise good which was the first one definitely was like really quite terrifying and so it's a it's the first

horror chucky in a long time the curse of chucky is it's really sets its roots in horror again and there's lots of lightning and thunder and it's set in one location in a spooky house yeah it feels like a horror film

The one before it, which we get to, but just in passing and quick notes, it's kind of like when Freddie went funny. And it's kind of exactly in that territory there where Chucky thinks he's really funny.

And it's... It gives vibes of, like... Taking away the... the extent of what the original film was of the whole how creepy that film is the first one a serial killer has some fucking magic voodoo shit goes into his spirit into a fucking doll and then he terrorizes

a family like in an apartment and well the kids getting blamed it's you know that has got layers that is brilliant then it gets to that point which we talk about and it's like what are you doing yeah well you know they like a lot of

franchises that go over lots and lots of movies they do try lots of things you know we recently covered Jason's and you know that I mean the one thing Chucky's never done so far is go to space I mean there's still time for that but yeah

Or like maybe gone into a different doll, not Chucky. Do you know what I mean?

I haven't seen that new one, which I guess we'll be covering, the remake reboot. I've not seen that. And people obviously didn't like the look of that one so much, but...

It was a great film. It was different from the original. Did you need to remake it? No. But Mark Hamill doing the voice of Chucky? Great. Oh, okay. Like I said...

Not actually. And some really brutal kills in it. But we are jumping ahead.

to a future podcast. We are. We're covering Seed of Chucky and Curse of Chucky and Gav, let's talk about what we've been up to, what we've been watching. But, may I say in the defence of the whole Chucky series, it...

it chucky as a adult and a fact that the riff i don't know the later one the riffs done the voice for it all and chucky has had a humor through the whole thing even when it before freddie got funny period um

it is still quite a fun series really at the end of the day like it wasn't torturous to watch

The seeded Chucky, even though that little other doll comes into it, it's terrible. Having Chucky, a little doll runs around with a knife and says, fuck you, and all this sort of stuff, is kind of funny in a way, and it has its own thing. So I think the whole series does have that going.

for it you know i think the first three are probably my favorites bride is fun but one two and three really balance humor and horror yeah

We've covered them all, obviously. Ending two in that factory full of Chucky's is great. And number three, when Andy's a bit older and that paintball scene where Chucky replaces the paintball pellets with real bullets, it's absolutely...

brutal you know it's that this other thing as well the fact that um you look at all the series and halloween is serious as fuck because even jason there's there's jokes and jason even jason as himself like that he will do the odd kind of comical death type thing yeah even though he doesn't speak

Yeah, totally. Where Michael on Halloween was just totally dead serious. And that is the series which is the most ridiculous continuation.

you know yeah out of all of them it's just crazy and it's funny really that's a serious movie we are so serious why don't you make a funny one michael's all going around going i still think there's something on the staircase

michael myer mike myers plays michael myers yeah exactly as austin powers underneath so it's mike myers as austin powers but it's got the mike michael myers mask on top of

That'd be crazy. Yeah, baby. Yeah, baby. I'm going to kill you. Do you want to shag me? Do you want to kill me? Are you guys shagging? Yeah, baby. Now I'm going to dodge you up.

It's a very Shankadelic baby. Shankadelic! The spy who shanked me.

There we go. It's easy. AI? Yeah. We're coming for you. I think that's what we've got to get into when it gets to that point when we can do it. Me and you just got our own little whole film, AI film.

studio where we just make real ridiculous stuff that comes out of our head what have i been up to well normal stuff gotta give a shout out and a rest in peace to the man ozzy osbourne obviously

Yes, you mentioned him on the last episode because you'd watched some of the show. Yeah, it's like he knew. I think he did. He wanted to die on stage, is what it said.

um crazy if it died on stage i've been being this would be like tommy cooper which is really weird when you watch that it's been like oh my god um i'm glad he didn't that would have been a terrible way of last views of him um but yeah uh um

Rest in peace to that man. I've been a massive Black Sabbath fan since discovering it in skateboard videos when I was about 16. I was just like, no, it's 15 maybe? And I was like, what is this song? And I was like, what the fuck is this?

I found out it's this band called Black Sabbath. I was like, what is this? But obviously this is pre-internet, so it's a case of like, whenever I was at the car boot sale, I'd pick up a Black Sabbath record, because I don't know. I was like, oh, cool, great, great. There's no way to listen to this shit. We don't have the internet, you know.

well we obviously go to a music shop but um i i and i ended up picking up i've got all the sav vinyl um got some multi-vinyl as well and um yeah i just oh i

Always loved the dude's music. Always loved the fact that Guy is always fucking real as well. He was never fucking, no, nothing. He was just literally, I'm just a dude. I like just playing music. I love entertaining people. Just a working class guy. Yeah.

It's that mentality. Kids nowadays, not kids nowadays, musicians and artists nowadays, there could be a lot of them that just don't have that mentality and it'd be all about ego and about Instagram likes and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And...

stuff which isn't relevant but if ozzy loved the fans and the fans loved ozzy and he is like princess darkness and he will be missed um that gig was fantastic it's incredible that he could do that he even sat like it's like two weeks before he dies and he sounded great

I hope I can sing like that two weeks before I die.

He talked about this on our last episode, and it's so strange that all of a sudden, yeah, he died, you know, but he got to do the farewell tour. I've seen somebody said, these sort of shows normally happen after someone's died, and he got to see the love and the tribute.

and everybody while he was still alive. It's funny, I think they're going to release that gig in cinemas. Yeah, they're going to edit it down a little bit. I would say go watch it, people. It's fantastic.

Since he died, I've actually watched a lot of it. I've watched a lot of it since he died, actually. Watch that, because all the bands there cover a Black Sabbath song, so it's cool seeing Metallica and Slayer cover Black Sabbath and, you know, stuff like that. And I mentioned he's from Birmingham.

which is where my wife's originally from. So her family are able to, because his coffin procession is going to be taken through Birmingham this week. So they're going to go and have a little look at that, you know. Yeah, I'll have to check out a funeral. I remember watching, I remember staying up very late and watching.

it was in LA watching Lemmy's funeral and they played it live on TV and that was just quite crazy because obviously seeing all the people that are there as well like the musicians and stuff like that a bit crazy watching them

I remember watching Michael Jackson's funeral. I remember watching Diana's Lady Di's funeral because it was just on everywhere at the time. But yes, Ozzy Osbourne, rest in peace, the Prince of Darkness, arguably one of the...

first bands to sort of really come up with that heavy metal sound also though gav another 80s icon uh in some ways um

man who was often wearing spandex and throwing people around. He dabbled in films sometimes, he was known for his blonde moustache.

and his big 24-inch pitons. And I'm talking about Hulk Hogan. He also passed away. I was about to go, oh yeah, man, that's the wrong one. That's macho. But he's there together again now. But yeah, Hulk Hogan.

he wasn't in a very good way um and his body he's put his body through absolute hell

You know, we know that even though it's not real, sorry to break this to you, wrestling isn't real. Regardless, people still get injured. I saw one the other day. It's amateur wrestling. This dude jumps off this thing.

lands down and the guy goes get out his way and the table's supposed to stay there and he lands on the table to fold it the guy does this so the table goes up so the edge of the table and the guy's gut

goes onto the edge of the table, and they're all like, oh, my God. That's a couple of ribs very good, maybe. That's proper fucking your stomach up. That would fuck you up bad. Yeah, that's fucking bad.

Hulk Hogan, I was big into WWF as it was back in the 80s and early 90s. I was big into it in the 80s, collecting the stickers and watching it with my friends, WrestleMania, Royal Rumble and all that. I'd say 86, 86.

788. I was probably watching WWF and loved it. I loved it. Ultimate Warrior versus Hulk Hogan. Ultimate Warrior was my favourite out of them all, but I loved it. Hulk Hogan was another character. When The Undertaker came into it, I kind of got out of it.

after The Undertaker came into it. But yeah, for a few years I really enjoyed it. Watching it was quite a fun thing to do.

um i got back into wrestling in the 90s when my little brother who's eight years younger than me he got into it around the smackdown time when you had stone cold yeah the rock and the undertaker so

Kind of got back into it a little bit. A lot of it's on Netflix nowadays, I think. Yeah, it is. I've not seen a wrestling match probably since I was 12 or whatever, but...

I don't watch much of it now. But yeah, and also, for anyone who's a fan of the Cosby show, Malcolm Jamal Warner also passed away. Three celebrity deaths. He played Theo in the Cosby show. Yeah, I wasn't sure who he was.

Very sadly drowned on holiday, which is, you know, he's only 54, I think he was. So, yeah, I was a big fan of the Cosby show back in the day. It was quite a groundbreaking show in some ways. I hate saying that name.

Yeah, I know. It's a shame. Can't we just call it the show? And me and Dan just talking, and I was like, is he released? And we looked up, and he was released four years again. It's like...

Why? He was drugging and raping people. Why is he wandering around? I don't care how old he is. Rot in hell, you piece of shit.

Yeah, well, let's talk about something fun, Gav, because we've both watched an Adam Sandler film, which hit Netflix this week, and we both really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. It's Happy Game or Two, very quickly. I enjoyed it because it took...

me really back to a simpler time i think that if it reminded me of like the original happy gilmore when life was a lot simpler we didn't really have the internet we did but it's in very very early stages

And life was a way simpler place. Life was a bit sillier, Gav. Life was silly. Nobody really cared so much. She could have a joke and no one...

There's an opening scene in Abigail Moore 2, which I won't explore because it's brand new, which I couldn't believe they did. The opening... The reason for him...

giving up golf and becoming a drinker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was shocked they did that. Oh, really? And there were some brilliant jokes in it. Oh, yeah. And I was like, wow, okay, that's how they're going to do this. But it was a real love letter to...

arguably in my opinion anyway his best film um back to like you said sillier less serious times but it was also really funny and did a lot of sort of remember this joke but in a really i think in a really clever way um and i love adam sandler and i just was

I love Happy Gilmore. Happy Gilmore 2 did everything I wanted it to do, really. I've always been a fan of the dude. I know he's Marmite. I know Sarah doesn't like him. But...

I watched a few things from Elijah recently. I was like, I'll tell you what, Elijah, this would be a good one for me and you to watch. Let's watch Big Daddy.

Because it had just been me and my son. And that was quite a good film to watch. And Elijah had some gags in it.

You know, can my boy use the toilet? No, okay, there's a stand here and piss up against the ball right next to the restaurant. And it was a fun film. And I think that sort of humour goes across really well. Because Adam Sandler, he's not slapstick. Well, he is a little.

it's a mixture of that and obscure sort of obscure human really but I'm fine with him

I forgot how many obscure jokes there are, you know, like the lady in the first one who falls out and goes, Mr. Mr. Get me out of here. Mr. Mr. Guy.

yeah and she was in it you know you've got all these people it's quite nice because they went back to obviously studied it and go okay we've got to do this one here just that come back watch the original go okay let's do this one let's put that person in but they've done it with um without being too forced

That's a lot of problems with films nowadays. Luckily, the new Beverly Hills Cop one, I enjoyed that. Yeah, this is on a par with that. Yeah, very good. I thought of...

that film when i was watching this because i was like that was also a well-made sequel which wasn't forced and they're not there's no agenda and they're both netflix produced as well

Yeah, I was really, really happy with that because Adam Sandler's Netflix stuff hasn't been that great, apart from Hubie Halloween, which we both absolutely love and have covered on. Yes, I was chatting to one of our patrons yesterday and said that you should check out Hubie Halloween. And it's funny to see...

Steve Buscemi back in Happy Gilmore 2 as well, talking about Phoebe Halloween. So, yeah.

I highly recommend that if you're an Adam Sandler fan. If you're not, then stay far away from it. Because if you hate Adam Sandler, Happy Gilmore 2 isn't going to win you over. If you hate someone who's the star of the film, just don't watch the film. It's probably best. I'm sure they're looking at the thing going, I'm not going to.

to you don't need to tell me this all right i'm having an argument with the invisible guest who doesn't exist go for it a couple of other movies i've watched um i'll save my cinema trip to the end but i also i'll bet you

I know you watched it, and I was a bit later than you to watch Jaws 50, Jaws at 50 on Netflix, on Disney+, sorry. And that was fun. Nothing I didn't already know.

but really made me want to go and visit Martha's Vinyard at some point, I think. I also want to go there, so should we do it?

Maybe when the kids are a bit older and we're in our 60s, we could go there on a little holiday together. All right, let's do that now. We've got to do it, yeah? Yeah, all right. I'd love that. Let's have a little holiday.

But yeah, it's fun. I guess the one thing I got out of it was just how hard it was to me and how much Spielberg struggled really and he had PTSD for years after making it you know from how hard it was but

What a thing to make. Arguably the greatest film of all time. It's just invented the term less is more. All of the stuff about it was just incredible.

And it's a very honest documentary because it really talks about everything on there. It even talks about all the alcoholism that was happening on set, the arguments, how hard it was to make.

but great great documentary if you love jewels so there's another one on there i'd highly recommend called music by john williams

similar it's all about john williams career it's on oh good i'm a fan of the man so yeah exactly and i write music so i appreciate what you're saying check that one out too um

What have you watched? Have you found out anything you've watched? Well, we haven't recorded it. It's one long ago we recorded. But I did watch with Date, It's Not Horror. I did watch with my middle child, American Pie 3.

which we laughed at, which was fine. It's probably the most forgetful. Is that the one where he eats shit? Yeah. He eats dog shit. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty much the most forgetful one, I'd say. But it's fine, watch that. I'll tell you what, I did watch the new South Park. I've never really been a massive South Park fan. It's the animation I feel like. I was a Mad Simpsons fan, but nowadays I'm very much a family guy.

person but i appreciate the animation and the south park animations i don't know it never really stuck me as like i wanted to watch but it was fine because the humor was actually pretty good and what they say is pretty good and they've always been very very like

Well, the makers went to the Oscars on acid. That's all you need to know. That's who's writing the show. They went literally to the Oscars on acid. And I can imagine that just sitting there, fucked out your face.

Anyway, the latest episode, and they haven't made an episode for a while, apparently. And they only write them like a week before. Because obviously, you've got the animation. It's always sorted. You just have to...

Put the rest of it too, because it is simpler animation, I presume. I don't know. It's still going to take a while. It's still taking a lot of people. Now it's all in the computers now. Very easy. Yeah. All programmed in.

They did one about Trump, basically, and he's just talking, but he's in bed with Satan. He's like, come on, run some. And he's saying, I don't know, you're an Epstein list. It's a bit weird. And all this sort of stuff. And then just at the end, they...

the town of South Park wanted to sue Trump. True Counter sues them for lots more money. And they're like, oh no, we're like, okay, we could do this. And they're like, we're going to have to go pro-Trump. Right at the end of the episode, they've used AI to make a pro-Trump campaign video.

And it's Trump walking through the desert. I've been your president, the man to look after you. And he's taking his clothes off because he's so hot as he walks along. Gets to the point he's totally naked on the floor.

like all fours and he falls over and his dick just looks up and his dick says yeah Donald Donald Trump and he just gets up and just carries on walking and it's with AI

And they've made him a lot fatter than he is as well. And it's just like, wow. And I love the fact that Paramount spent $1.5 billion acquiring...

the whole of South Park everything from now on and everything they've done 1.5 billion and the first thing they do is that it's about 30 years old now isn't it you know 1.5 billion I know

That is insanity. But to be fair, I think they, you know, I took out a subscription again, and I've watched the episode, and Daisy's like, can I watch the episode, my friend? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've probably done all right with it.

But yeah, that is insane. But yeah, it's funny, and they make it a week before, so they're going to release them each week. So I'm like, it's right now in the world, like we're just speaking about, but the fact that it's nice going back to a simpler time of humour and stuff.

It's right now in the world we need something like South Park or something which just goes, I don't really care if a red light is going to be shining through a window on my head. I'm still going to say it. So, yeah.

Amazing. Yeah, I haven't checked that episode out yet. I haven't watched South Park for a long time. No, I haven't either, but I really enjoyed it. So I'm going to wait for next week because I'm like, great, what are they going to do, you know?

it's intimidating if you've never seen it i've seen the first three or four seasons many years ago and i picked up basically whenever there's an episode like the kanye episode or whatever you know i'll watch that but i don't tune in every week

it's like most of these things well I know Family Guy and Simpsons are both into like I think Family Guy's like season 27 28 or something no Family Guy sorry Family Guy and Simpsons is probably like 33 or something I don't know

know so it's a lot if you'd never got into it you know yeah but luckily with streaming you can dip in and out or binge yeah

As I've done with The Simpsons, you know, as you know, last October I watched all the Treehouse of Horrors and that was great. You could always just fucking Google the best 20 episodes of The Simpsons of all time. Yeah. And just go and watch them.

the early ones some of the stuff is fucking hilarious like some early stuff but before there was a lot of stuff and in a simpler time it was really funny shit yeah so yeah find some stuff if you haven't seen it some good stuff but nowadays it's like I watch the new season

on recently you know i watched an episode and i think i stopped it halfway through and i was like i watched a family guy just didn't you know appeal to me like it did when i was younger well I've got two more movies to quickly mention one of them is an older one from 2016

It's a Mel Gibson film, which I know you've seen, called Bloodfather, which I didn't expect much from it. I watched it again recently. I watched it again about two months ago. Totally blew me away.

He's basically Riggs in it. He basically is like an older grumpier Martin Riggs. He plays an ex, sort of Hell's Angel almost, who...

He went to prison for nine years, kept his mouth shut. When he came out, he just lives in a trailer and he's a tattoo artist in a trailer. And he's got a 17-year-old daughter who accidentally...

Well, she thinks she's killed her boyfriend. She'd run away though. She'd run away in Hank Goldman for a few years, yeah.

so he has to protect her at all costs and it really is mel gibson doing what mel gibson does best um like like almost like in the fat man really as well when he just

We love it. Much like Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler is at his best when he's angry and shouting at people and getting all crazy. And Mel Gibson, there's a fight scene towards the end of Bloodfather in a car with him and like four guys. Just them in a car.

biting their ears off, biting their throats, headbutting them, and you're just like, go Mel, go! Michael Parks is in it as well.

Yeah, he's always quite terrible. Who runs a kind of neo-Nazi thing. So you've kind of got that American History X kind of like tiny compound sort of thing going on. And he used to be, Mel Gibson used to run in those circles as well. So he's got layers.

It's a decent film if you've not seen it, for sure. Yeah, really, really good. My last film, though, to recommend for sure, perhaps not to you, Gav, is I did another cinema trip and I went to watch The Fantastic Four, The First Steps.

Is that Marvel? Yes, it is, yeah. It's standalone in some ways because it's set in a separate universe. It's set in the 60s, but in a different universe where the wars never happened and almost like Kubrick's 60s.

You know when you watch films that are set in the 40s and 50s, films made in the 40s and 50s, what they thought the future might be like. This is that in the 60s. There's like hover cars. It's like the Jetsons, that kind of thing. And it was...

incredible performances from the four main cast members because the problem of the fantastic four that they've never quite got right until this film is they are a family and it's never quite felt like that it's always been like

the mr fantastic show or the jessica oh jessica albers in it great but this one all four family members get their chance to

They're all scientists and they all get their chance to sort of be heroes and work things out. There's a terrifying villain in it played by our friend Ralph Inneson. You know, the guy with a very deep voice who plays, he's in Black Phillip, you know, The Witch. The Witch, yeah.

He plays Galactus, who is like a planet-eating monster who everyone will know from the comics if you're into the Marvel stuff. And yes, it does...

It does set some stuff up for the next few Marvel films, but it also doesn't really.

incredible stuff really really enjoyed it um and i've been to the cinema three times now this summer to see the three films i definitely wanted to see and on my top my ranking is fantastic four number one

Jurassic World Rebirth at number two and Superman at number three. That's not to say Superman isn't a good film.

That's the order I enjoyed them the most, and Fantastic Four was definitely my favourite out of all of them. I knew it kind of would be, really, but I highly recommend that to anyone who...

He's thinking about going to see it. He won't be disappointed. It's fantastic. The main thing is you went to the cinema and you had a good time. That's the main thing. I really did. But let me tell you about the crazy woman that was in there.

Oh boy, Jack. I was going to call you Jack then. You did call me Jack. Yeah, well I call Jack Gav quite a lot as well because it's a very short name and I love you both very much.

So I got into the cinema early. Can I get you dressed, Gav? So I got into the cinema quite early because...

my wife was like i'll deal with kids bedtime people twins for anyone who doesn't know so it's all very sort of you have to juggle a lot of things so i got there and i was like the second person in there i booked my seat obviously you have to book a seat these days

sat down and then a few more people came in probably about a dozen people it was a pact it was a full house because it was opening day but it was 7 p.m so anyway there's about a dozen people in there at this point and this woman walks in

real Karen and she's there with her two boys who are probably like 14 and 16

and they've got the end row on the same row as me. And I'm in the middle, smack bang in the middle. There's a few people just up from me, but there's a couple of spare seats on either side of me. Anyway, she...

She walks in and says, oh, I don't want to sit on the end. And they're like, well, mum, you book these seats. And they're like, she's like, well, that doesn't matter. I didn't think you had to sit in them. And they're like, oh.

It doesn't matter, Mum, but just sit down. We're going to enjoy it anyway. We've got all these sweets. They were like talking sense, you know? She's like, well, I'll just wait until the film starts, then we'll just move somewhere else. And I thought...

Well, good luck, because it's probably going to be packed, which it was. There wasn't a spare seat in the whole cinema. Anyway, after a couple of minutes of her bitching and moaning, I was sat there with my baseball cap on, my new baseball cap gown, which I'm still rocking all these...

eight days later and i heard excuse me excuse me and i thought i didn't really acknowledge it first of all because i was looking at my phone i was waiting for the trailers to start

eating my sweets and then i thought oh if you're talking to me and then i heard excuse me you in the cap in the baseball cap and i looked around i went oh hi and she said are you on your own and i was a bit taken apart i thought what's strange

question but i said uh yes i am she went ah great can we swap please and i said uh oh well no because i've i've put you know my seat and i'm in the middle of the row and she was like oh but i don't like sitting on the end

So, I just thought we could swap. Hang on, hang on. So you don't like sitting at the end. So I, who you don't know, should sit on the end, which I might not like, yeah? You want me to do that, yeah? Shut the fuck up, woman. That's what I'd have said.

So I just said, no, it's all right, thanks. I booked this one. And she got all... And her kids said to her, Mum, for God's sake, you have to book your seats. Everyone's booked their seats.

Like, just sit down. She went, oh, like I said, I'll move when the film starts. Well, anyway, I was very happy to see there wasn't a spare seat in the whole cinema. Shove a hot dog down her throat, for fuck's sake. Because it was opening day. She was sort of grumpy all the way through. And then, at the end...

As we were all waiting, because you stayed until after the credits, obviously, with the Marvel film, when we watched the little scene at the end. So I didn't judge you. Very quickly, I watched a movie in the cinema. It was a Jurassic World, Jurassic Park, whatever the new one, whatever it's called. Donald Saw movie, it came out.

Charlie, who's my oldest, who's autistic, is like, right, we're staying to the end. There's going to be a thing at the end. I said, I don't know. I don't think so. It probably isn't. It's like, no, we're going to do that. And everyone's kind of getting annoyed because they want to go. But Charlie, being autistic, is like, no.

sat in a seat down right over the front and just sat there. We rode right to the end and there wasn't anything. Sorry, carry on. Bloody Marvel, most in my fucking time. Carry on. So I got up to leave and...

She was kind of really getting in my way. She wouldn't get her legs out of the way. Then she wouldn't. So I just thought, I'm in no rush because it's my night off from the kids.

And I could tell that she was only doing it because she was wanged up that I wouldn't swap with her earlier on. But anyway, what a psycho. Pathetic. And that's why I try not to go to the cinema other than very early in the morning on my own. How old were the kids?

They're like 14 and 16. They're in their late teens. I love the fact that they are better than her as a human. Yeah. They're like, just sit down. I'm so happy they weren't with her and they've learned from her like, you're a twat.

so that's my that's my cinema experience looping back around to jewels for our final subject before we get into our chucky films we've got a joint friend and i'll pay one of our patrons but he's also a very close friend of ours rj mccready um now

RJ McCready, me and him used to do a podcast a long time ago, and he's done a couple of other podcasts, and he's really into movies.

And he's also incredible with his hands. Oh, I know. And he is... I don't know. One of his many hobbies is rock making.

Just for himself, mainly. Yeah. And...

I just wanted to quickly give you a shout out, RJ. I think you're incredible at what you do. And the fact you just do it as a hobby for yourself. It does it for the most part. It does it because it's the enjoyment of it. Absolutely, yeah.

But the reason I bring this up is, and Gav's privy to this as well, is one of his friends is having a special birthday soon, one of RJ's friends. And he sent me, a few weeks ago, he sent me a picture of a blue barrel and said, can you guess what I'm making my buddy for his birthday?

And I said, no, no, what is it? And it turns out through lots of photos, which Gab's now seen as well, he's recreated one of the yellow barrels from the end of Jules.

even with a tracker on it. And it's made it distressed. It's all painted yellow. It's got distressing all over it, ropes, and a tracker attached to it. And that's the gift he's giving his buddy. So that's pretty incredible, isn't it?

Yeah, I'd want one in my flat. I knew you would. Well, I just wanted to also mention a couple of other things he's made over the last few years because...

people don't know very quickly he um i said to them we're thinking of making this movie and all i had really is uh i did have a script i don't have a script for it and i was like i'm hoping to make this movie then the way it is with deadbolt films is where the company has

HD stays on the film for three months and goes no let's do this other movie we seem to be doing this weird thing at the moment we actually have a slight direction anyway that's not what I'm talking about and I said oh we could do this movie it's a period piece probably like set in 1900s and I said oh no we do need

Can you make a rifle?

He made the rifle. The movie's never personally got any further, but he made the rifle first, what we needed. It's like, wow. Yeah, he's got in his little man cave, his attic, he's got all of his things sort of up on the wall and little shelves and stuff.

he's recently some of the things he's made recently and over the last few years just just to sort of reel them off he's made um you know the game doom um you know the game doom yeah yeah yeah he's made um the helmet from doom oh nice

Really, really cool. He's made Punisher's bulletproof vest with a skull on it. He's...

I don't know if you've seen this. He's done the Marines from Aliens complete space armour. You know, RJ, you know what you should do?

Look at this. That's amazing. What you need to do is be the bloody cosplay maker for people. Well, he's made some cosplay for some people. Yeah, you could definitely, people would pay you to make their costumes. Absolutely.

Captain America's World War helmet and goggles, like he wears back in the old days as well. He's done that. He's made the flamethrower from The Thing. He recreated that. That was so good.

If the police ever came around his house, they'd be like, what the fuck have you got? He's made the seat from the ship in Alien.

That's just his chair. The Nostromo, that's it. Obviously, the chessboard from Star Wars, Millennium Falcon, and Ash's... shotgun and chainsaw um as well as the the glaive you know the you know the movie crawl you know the sort of spinning disc uh ninja style thing yeah he's made that as well and

countless other things which i can't even list off now so he's i always get excited when he sends me projects he's working on um he's a guy who'll buy like a model kit

And be like, I'm going to make this. Just recreate this thing, you know. RJ, it's my 50th. Because you came to my 40th. My 50th in two years.

So just letting you know now, again, it is going to be fancy dress. So start getting your costume ready. It will turn up as Robocop. Please, be Robocop. That would be incredible. I've said to him, I want...

i would like something one day from him um so i but i don't know what like he-man sword i don't know it could be anything

But the Glaive from Kroll is one that I love because I've always loved that weapon. So, yeah. But anyway, I just wanted to give our buddy RJ a shout out. I look forward to my 50th because I don't drink anymore. And my 40th is a blur with about four photos.

Yeah, that was a bit of a messy night, wasn't it? Really, really messy night.

A lot happened that night. In fact, they had two toilets going on. I'm just going to say this right now. They had two toilets going on. At one point, one toilet has someone puking up so you can't use it. The other toilet has someone having anal sex in it. And I know that for a fact. And I'm like, what the fuck?

I wasn't going to mention that story. Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter because I'm not saying the names. But, like, what the hell was going on at that place? And I was DJing and I don't remember any of it. I DJed for a bit, not for long. This wasn't even...

in someone's house. This was out, wasn't it? Oh yeah, this was a club. Anything that could have happened that night happened, I think. That was a messy night. I cried on the bar. Who were you dressed up as? I was RJ McCready.

You were R.J. McCready, and R.J. McCready was dressed up as Snake Plissken, I think. To confuse everybody, yeah. And I was dressed as Rick, Sheriff Rick from The Walking Dead. No, R.J. was R.J.

I think me and RJ were both RJ. I thought he was Snake Bliskin for some reason. No, no, no, he was RJ and I was RJ, but he was better than mine, I think. Mark was Team Wolf. We had everyone there. Everyone was dressed up. But I don't remember much, or any, actually, of it.

My wife was dressed up as Wednesday Adams. And there was another girl dressed as Wednesday Adams as well. Yes. There was a Chucky. There was a Chucky. And the bride of Chucky. That's right.

It was like, what is going on? But yeah, I'm going to do it again in two years. Well, that's what we've been watching. That's who's died. That's what RJ McCready's been making. And that's where we're at. Oh, it was my...

Sixth wedding anniversary the other day happy wedding anniversary, which is traditionally you give each other a gift of iron

And my wife beat me. We always say who's got the better present. And I gave her a little bowl made of iron that had a little engraving inside of it. It's like a bowl you put your keys in or something, you know. And she got me a three foot by two foot.

canvas of the 1960s artwork comic strip of Iron Man. Very good. Which she said I'm allowed to put up, which I put up on my bedroom wall. I reckon Sarah and I would probably give each other weights, dumbbells or something.

Well, it'd have to be made of iron. Yeah, old school. Pump it iron, man. Should we get on with the episode? Yeah, talking of pumping, here comes the seed.

Oh, God. I've got questions. I have questions for this film. All right, well, let's have a trailer for Seed of Chucky from 2004.

I told you not to leave your toys lying about. Good God, you are hideous.

He took a bride. But this time, in order to become the parents of a human baby, they'll need just the right woman. Jennifer Tilly.

Production is underway on the new horror flick, Chucky Goes Psycho. You know, I should have played here on Brockovich. I could have done it without a Wonderbra. In Planned Parenthood, timing is everything, so you'll have to hurry.

This shouldn't be a problem for you. This fall, Chucky's back. And he's delivering us some evil. Come to papa.

No wonder her career is in trouble Seed of Chucky That's my boy

God bless the little people. This November. Get a load of Chucky. So, Seed of Chucky from 2004. Rated R for Pirates.

The joke never gets old on this podcast. No. Chucky and Tiffany are resurrected by their innocent, gender-confused child, Glenn slash Glenda, and they hit Hollywood.

where a movie depicting the killer doll's murder spree is underway. Directed and written, as you said earlier, by Don Mancini.

uh so this is sort of trying to recreate that bride of chucky energy which is where the franchise really a lot of people really that's where they found chucky really because that was a silly film

directed by that hong kong director whose name escaping me right now ronnie woo you um who went on to direct freddie versus jason funny enough um and this tries to take that crazy silly humor and it

unfortunately doesn't quite deliver it's almost too weird for its own good um we've got brad deriff returning obviously jennifer tilly returning which is great

We've got Hannah from S Club 7 in this. We've got Red Man as Red Man. And Billy Boyd, one of the hobbits, plays the voice of Glenn slash Glenda, the...

transgender doll we also have jane jason fleming who said it was the worst experience of his life um in one scene in this and it's just very random film gav sorry i'll cut you off there what are your initial thoughts before we deep

We dive deep into the seed of Jackie. Well, there's something else going on here with the film. In 1953, we had Glenn or Glenda, which was Edward.

film where Edward himself and behind closed doors like to dress in ladies clothing and then made a film about it and this obviously is playing on that and the fact that you've got john waters who you know john waters does some quite quirky stuff out there on the on the fringe you know um he

It's funny that he's in that too. I presume that he was attracted to the fact that they had this doll and it was Glenn or Glenda and they were going with that route, which is a nod to Edward.

So I think he probably came on board for that reason. I think... Well, he actually spoke to Don Mancini and said, I'm a big fan of...

the Chucky movies, and they were like, oh, well, we can get him in. It was just coincidence. Obviously, he was well into that Glenn Lender thing, but it was a coincidence that they brought him in for, they actually wrote the role in this for him.

specifically they added him into it i didn't check the trivia on this so you can keep me up on that that's good um so you know i think and it's written and directed by uh like i said earlier don who does did the original and

didn't write the original though that was Tom Holland he did Fright Night did Tom Holland direct the original as well

Yes, he did. That's right, of course he did. And took over the reign afterwards, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. And it's funny because the movie after is a lot better, but more time's had with it, but I don't know if it's more like, you know...

with studio pictures what's going around at the time or a couple years previously kind of influences and obviously the box office taking influences what's coming out and it still happens with stuff like this especially if this um this is a weird one though i don't know

And it's funny, John Walter came in, but just because he's a fan of Chucky, I suspect John Walter's probably like, oh, that's a shit movie in the end. Probably that's a shame that I was in there. I don't know. It kind of almost goes with John Walter's sensibilities a bit. It's a bit of a weird, quirky, comedy-type film.

in a straight-up horror movie, where the next film's a straight-up horror movie. Yeah. And very quickly, sorry, just to say...

my overall opinion is i don't like the film i i think uh from what i've said earlier it's when freddy got funny it's that period and i just don't like it where the next film is more me it's more but my bag in horror uh spooky house thunder rainstorm someone

stuck in in the situation that's right up my street but that's just my opinion as this one host on the podcast um i'm sure someone one of our listeners like i fucking love that movie but i don't like that other one because everyone likes something different

Yeah, and I think... Look, you're right, everybody loves... Every movie's got somebody out there that says it's their favourite movie in the whole world, but I think Chucky fans...

collectively consider C to be probably the weakest entry. It is almost too crazy. Now, there's a few things to consider here before we get into the film.

This is riding the coattails of Scream. So it's very meta because you've got Jennifer Tilly playing herself. Obviously, she also voices Tiffany, but she's playing herself in this as an actress who's willing to sleep with Redman in this case or whoever.

to get the role that she needs. You've got Jason Fleming briefly. Well, that was originally going to be Quentin Tarantino, but he didn't really want to be in it. Once he read the script, he was like, no, I don't want to be in this as myself. Quentin Tarantino. When Quentin...

when quinton said no i could like if quinton was already like possibly if it's i don't know might not been at all but maybe if it's like oh at least if he's reading it that means he's like going like oh i'll give that you know maybe um

and if he says no then let's have a let's have a little look at that script again

It's very strange to get Redman, you know, who has done some comedy films, my favourite rapper of all time. I wouldn't go. If I had to, sorry, very quickly, again, sorry I hate to interrupt you, but I can't actually see ADHD in me.

I hate the fact that you don't... Right, Quentin Tarantino. Imagine, from dusk till dawn, with fucking Redman instead of Quentin Tarantino. Why Redman? He's completely not...

What I want to know is what list are they looking at where the top of the list is Quentin and then number two, if he says no...

red man it must have just been happenstance or just a chance that they happened to get him or just he walked in the room like do you want to be in this movie yeah all right i think my personal opinion is they were saved by that because

The budget for this film is really all on the effects of Chucky, Tiffany and Glenda. Everybody else in it is, apart from the few cameos like Jason Fleming in that.

Jennifer Tilly and Brad Dourif probably would have got the most paycheck. You've got Hannah, like I said, from S Club 7, which is a British pop band that was big in the 90s and early 2000s. Yeah, she's the assistant who catches on fire.

and then you've got billy boyd voicing glenn okay maybe he would demand a slight paycheck after the lord of the rings movies but i think a lot of their money went on

um on the dolls really uh and the effects because they they are no matter what you think they still are mainly practical and they look great but the other thing i wanted to mention is riding on the coattails of scream it's very meta

Yes, you've got people playing themselves, but also there's a film within a film. Now, we recently covered Scream 4, I think, which is where they're sort of visiting the sets, isn't it? Is it Scream 4? Scream 3.

Which is...

Very similar to this in some ways, because we visit the set of the Chucky Goes Psycho movie that they're making within this film, and that's how Chucky gets resurrected, because there's a Chucky doll, a prop, and a Tiffany prop that's been made, animatronics, and the soul.

go into them. But it's just, it feels like they're trying to do too much. It feels like they're trying to copy that scream meta thing.

Continue on with being a bit funny and weird and batshit. And it does get a bit confusing at times with Jennifer Tilly, although she's really up for taking the piss out of herself, I must say. Yeah.

And she's great. Jennifer Tiddy is, I mean, she's a stunning woman, but also she's so funny. I do, yeah, no, she's fine. She probably saves it, if anything. I do like the fact it's very meta, like you're saying, like the screen 3. I do like the fact...

that they did that and at the original originally watching this game because I couldn't remember it very well and so I watched it I was like oh I'm quite enjoying that aspect it soon ran out the window I got to meet

Yeah. And the other thing that this film did, which, Gav, you said this the other week, is way ahead of its time accidentally in the whole transgender sort of movement, really, because you've got a character who...

You know, he's a doll, so when they put his panda stone...

There's nothing there. So the parents, Tiffany and Chucky, are debating, is he a boy, is he a girl? And he ultimately is trying to decide what he or she is or they are. So almost in some ways ahead of its time. And I should imagine... It is very ahead of its time.

I should imagine there aren't many horror films, especially from early, you know, the 2000s that have an element of that. And okay, it's maybe done in a jokey way, but... If they'd have released this...

uh 2018 2019 it'd probably been more of a hit because of that aspect yeah it's um gender identity it's an interesting aspect to it

I'm not sure if it really works or if they were going for the sort of comedy side of it really, but I don't know. It's a strange film. It is a really strange one. I'm not a huge fan.

I appreciate the film for what it is and what they're trying to do in something slightly different.

it doesn't hit for me but there's a lot of hits in this and there's a lot of misses and they're sort of alternate really and even the beginning of this film if we dive into it it starts off with very giallo style credits and almost a bit of a score and you're like oh

I've got shit graphics and sperm. Well, yes, because then instantly that's taken away from you. That giallo feel is taken away from you by shit CGI graphics of sperm. Which looks so aged. It's like...

unfortunately it's the curse of computer graphics and people use them at the time going this looks fantastic and at the time you're like oh it's not too bad but then unfortunately

Shit ages fast with computers. Well, you need the budget to pull off good CGI back then. Yeah. And then...

we go back the other way and it's like oh it's good again now because then you're reminded that this follows on directly from the bride of chucky where at the end she gives birth to a little creature

And this obviously is going to play a big part of this film because it's called The Seed of Chucky. Like I said, originally they were going to call it Son of Chucky, which I think is much better and it's a bit more like...

you know son of frankenstein son of dracula kind of thing but i don't know why they went for seed really don't know it's not a great name for it but that is what it is and yeah spunk of chucky chucky spunk

Chucky gets fucky. Instead of the seed of Chucky, spunk of Chucky, spaff of Chucky, jizz of Chucky. And we do see this little baby doll in Tiffany's womb.

And then it zooms in on a little made in Japan on his wrist. I've remembered what I was saying so I've got my hand up. Can I speak? Go on then. Yeah. Right, everybody just note down a new AI movie.

that Dan and I are going to produce under the Podcast on the Hill production AI film banner. I want to see the Chuckle Brothers versus Chucky. Chuckle versus Chucky. Hells yeah.

For anyone who doesn't know, the Chuckle Brothers were a children's TV show in the 90s. England.

They both had moustaches and they basically would, the sort of guys that would pick up a ladder and turn around and hit the other one in the head, they were like a really low budget Laurel and Hardy. Really, really scraped the barrel, found them on the streets in England type job, yep.

And their catchphrase was to me, to you, to me, to you. It's not a very good catchphrase. I couldn't remember that. I want to see those guys versus Chucky. They're just doing their fucking...

wash windows whatever situation but Chucky's there and he's off them and Chucky keeps fucking up because they keep knocking him over by accident or they put him on a ladder and just ping him up like a catapult and he's into a hedge

There's a scene where they say, to me, to you, to me, fuck you. Yeah, exactly. That's what I want to see. We kick off again, promisingly, there's a little girl who opens a present.

An anonymous present that's arrived for it. It's an ugly doll. A very ugly doll. I don't want this doll. And it's a Chucky doll. This whole family looks fucking very privileged, doesn't they? Yes, they do. Yes, well...

they put the doll in the bin yeah i don't really want this doll it's fine um and your toy we don't want your toy in the bin with it

And they are English. They're very, very English, aren't they? I know, it's very strange. It seems to be this movie has lots of English people. So I was like, was this shot of Pinewood? Why the fuck's there so many English people in this movie? Looked it up. No, it wasn't at all. I thought, you say Billy Boyd.

I thought it was fucking Russell Brand I was like oh my god it's Russell Brand doing a fucking non-gendered goal which is a fucking spawn of Chucky which is just ridiculous

Luckily it's not. It's Billy Boyd. One of the hobbits. So later on we do see that the doll climbs out of the bin. All of this is POV. This is actually...

pretty good it's literally because it's it's the first time well no we would have probably seen it and in maybe the first film as well but but we don't you know everyone knows pov shots

Black Christmas, original Black Christmas, Halloween's, stuff like that. We see that going up on the killer, but we're at head height normal. We're at normal fucking five foot nine, five foot ten, six foot, whatever the fuck it is, height, walking along POV.

this is fantastic actually i actually was like oh man this is actually crafter a bit of tension there's a bit of stuff going on you can see don knows what he's doing uh unfortunately just needs to have the right script i feel um

and and the hand goes out to the cake picks up and sort of walks along but it's lower down pov and i thought it's then starts going up a staircase and i thought this was actually really quite good

Yeah, it's great because it's almost like what it would be like to be Buzz Lightyear or something, you know, when the toys come alive. Yeah. Because as you see, he grabs a knife and he runs up the stairs. And serial killers. Buzz Lightyear is a serial killer. Next AI movie. And then you see...

Then you see the dad come out on the landing and he's like, honey, you've left your doll out here. And she's having a, she is naked in the shower. And he picks, no, his wife is, not his daughter. Oh, I thought you said wife, sorry.

He said, honey, you've left your door and he picks it up.

And then, as you say, with the POV of him suddenly picking the doll up. And then he's stabbed. And then he does a bit of a psycho recreation here because he's sort of stabbed and then falls over the balancers. And we see him. We follow him all the way down to the foyer. It's very 80s slasher here.

like that this is okay chucky came out in the 80s it was a slasher this is good form what they're doing here you know and continuing the psycho homages um

Chucky then goes back up the stairs to the mother of the family, who's in the shower, as you say. Boob! Scrub-a-dub-dub, rubbing up her boobs, soapy-dopey. And she's like, honey, what was that sound? What was that sound?

and yeah he kills her in the shower well she slips over actually breaks her neck and we see the blood going down the um because he did manage a couple of stabs and we see the blood go down the uh plug hole and she falls over and breaks her neck and um

Yeah, then he's sort of scared of his own reflection briefly.

Actually, this isn't Chucky, this is Glenda, sorry. Is this Glenn or Chucky? I can't remember who this is. No, this isn't Chucky. This is Glenn, sorry. Obviously, the audience, like myself as well, duped into thinking it's Chucky because we're watching a fucking Chucky movie. So we assume that...

is but at one point we're here and like what the fuck chucky doesn't have a fucking michael jackson laugh going on what the fuck's going on and um yeah it's it's

pretty good and then you see he's he sees his reflection in the mirror looks like a fucking little small pal helen boron carter and he sees what he's done he's killed two people

And then the little girl comes and he goes, oh, my God, my mom and dad are dead. But then she just turns to the little doll and says, you killed my mom and dad. And now you're pissing your pants. And he's pissing himself.

And then he wakes up and it's a nightmare. It was all a nightmare. It was a fucking doll's nightmare. A shit-looking fucking doll's nightmare. Fuck.

Me. But I guess what this is trying to do is sow that seed of he's got the killer instinct in him. It lost me here. I was like, you've lost me. Fucking lost me. You had me. He's actually a prisoner.

um trapped in a uh like a carnival where a guy called sykes um let's call him so the doll was called as far as he knows

And the show is called Sykes and Shitface. And Sykes gets up on stage. Who is also English. Yeah, I'm fucking English. It's really over-the-top English. Yeah, and...

well i guess it's all set in england isn't it that's why i think that's what it is because he posts himself to america after this um and they do their performance and there's a real like punk goth audience they're absolutely loving it

And then you hear a narration by this doll, Glenn, who says, Hello, my name's Glenn, and I think I'm Japanese, judging by the tattoo on my wrist, which says, Made in Japan.

I don't know who my parents are. I don't really know who I am, but I'm going to find out someday. Right now, though, I'm called Shitface, and I'm a ventriloquist doll. You're thinking...

This film's been on for ten minutes. What on earth is going on? This film's been on for longer than it should be. Ten minutes? Yeah. What about the... When do we get the fantasy flashback bit with the...

Fucking dude from Jason Fleming. Dude from Lock, Stock, Two Smoking Brows. Well, it's not a fantasy flashback. This is a movie set. That's the next bit, isn't it? Because it cuts to Hollywood after this. So it cuts to Jason Fleming as Santa. Now he's playing Jason Fleming.

Doing an American accent.

Why is he doing an American accent where everyone else, all these other people, the guy before's British accent, maybe they went, it's too much British. Oh, it's supposed to, so it's easier to show. Why don't you then get a fucking American actor?

It's just, this whole movie's bewildering. It really is. Jason Fleming said it was the worst experience of his acting career. He was on set in...

croatia or prague it was freezing cold dressed as santa covered in fake blood waiting for them to set this little chucky animatronic up and it took like a few days of shooting and he was like why am i doing this i'm jason fleming

Act a whore. Yeah. But anyway, Santa's in this graveyard and he's on the phone to his... his wife saying i'll be home to empty my sack ho ho ho and all the sort of usual stuff and then he realizes all of the toys have come out of his sack and one of those toys was chucky and um

Chucky attacks him. Tiff sneaks up behind him. He gets strangled with a slinky. Chucky slits his throat. He gets stabbed about ten times.

And then we realise, cut, cut, the Chucky doll's not working properly. And it's all a film set. It's all meta. At this point, it's entirely gone screen free.

And Jason Fleming is like, I'm going back to my trailer until you get that goddamn doll fixed. And the effects guy goes over to sort it out, bends down, and Chucky's hand just goes bang, hits him in the nuts.

which is a reference to um the chucky doll in the or the tiffany doll in in bride of chucky apparently it kept going wrong and the hand kept grabbing jennifer tilly's boob

in real life. So that's a little in-joke reference. Oh yeah, the guy with my own control back there is going to watch this. Grab one of them. And yes, the film they're making, as I said earlier, is called...

chucky goes psycho um and you know maybe that's why we had some psycho references in glenn's dream i don't know but there we go and it's jennifer tilly as herself we see her now we meet her and she is trying to jumpstart her career

She has Joan, played by Hannah from S Club 7, is her assistant. And they're discussing her weight, the same look.

jennifer the reason you're not getting any roles is because you put on a few pounds and she's a bit pissed that she's not getting it she said why can't i julia roberts or his people i'm better than her or whoever she says i could be this person i'm better than that person and she's

She's at a point in her career where she needs a break. She needs something to jumpstart her career, just like John Travolta when Pulp Fiction script landed on his desk. She's got no fan mail and she's moan, moan, moan.

Red man happens to be playing Red Man.

Yeah, well, we'll come to that in a minute. Joan says to her, hang on, do you know that Redman is making a film? He's directing, he's written and directing a film about the Virgin Mary. You could, you could be the one...

to star in that no no no no no jennifer says i think i could be the one starring at her assistant looks at her her assistant's another british person looks very innocent actually to her looks at the jennifer's in like

I don't think you look the virgin type. Yeah, and then we cut to Glenn back in England watching television and he's watching, you know, like a... upcoming movies program and they're like we're making a new Chucky movie and it's got Jennifer Tilly's in it and it's got Chucky look at the doll and

Glenn sees on Chucky's wrist the maid in Japan and he thinks, my daddy, I'm not an orphan after all. Fucking shit. Basically, this movie would be, you could actually take this weird child thing out of it.

and just have Chucky and Tiffany there on a Hollywood set and this whole meta thing going on. Obviously, they've taken Scream 3 and looked at that and done this, but they could have just done that and actually had those guys...

secretly killing on the film setting and it'd be almost a murder mystery and it's like the doll's coming back to life make it suspenseful like the original film you could do that and cut this whole fucking weird Helena Bonacata looking fucking little pale fucking shitty doll out of the fucking film.

Yeah, and maybe throw in loads of cameos along the way, loads of nods to other horror films. It could have been an alright movie. Tarantino would probably be like, yeah, I like that idea. I can imagine him killing Robert Englund, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah, that's it. Fucking do that proper. Yeah, absolutely.

But we got this. So Glenn decides he's going to try and escape from his owner. So his owner comes in with a little rat and says, here you go. This will get you going. Have a little rat.

And he manages to escape into a bin of the back of a truck. He runs off and jumps in the back of a truck.

and he heads to la with indiana jones flying over the map little animation i was like i wish i was watching jones right now

Cut back to LA and Redman meets up with Jennifer Tilly. Script read. And he's just staring at her tits. That's all he's doing. That's literally what he's doing.

He says to her, look, that was a really good read, read through of the characters. She says, thank you. But what she says, she says, thank you, Mr. Man.

I know, she calls him Red, or Mr. Man. She thinks his name is Red Man. And I was thinking it was a Mr. Man, and I was like, that's brilliant. He says to her, look, I think you're great, but...

I've already got somebody else in mind for the role of the Virgin Mary, and that is Julia Roberts. So she flaunts her boobs and says, we should discuss this over dinner this evening. Basically, I will blow you into giving me the...

Yeah, she says, come to my house tonight for dinner and we'll discuss this further. And he's like, hell yeah! Because he's playing like an extreme version of himself. He's basically playing Harvey Weinstein, really. Jennifer Tilly.

Arguably one of the sexiest voices ever, really. Probably her and Scarlett Johansson. Very sexy voices. Or maybe Selma Hayek, that accent. You just keep going and going, man.

Well, I'll stop there then. Sorry, I'm getting a bit hot under the collar here. You'll be going, Kevin Bacon. Bacon pouch. So, cut to backstage in a prop room.

in Hollywood horror horror movie prop room and there's a little parcel that's arrived from England and this is Glenn he's somehow he don't know how he's posted himself what the fuck is he where does he come from

How is he their spawn? He came out of Tiffany in the last movie. What, she gave birth then? Oh yeah, I can't remember. Oh my god.

That was like the jump scare at the end. Demon shit. Alright, carry on. He crawls out and he's looking around and he's a bit scared because he's like all these monster mannequins and...

you know you can see there's like a dracula a gill man and all these other things and he's in hollywood we find this out there's all these props everywhere and then he finds a chucky and a tiffany doll and he's like mom and dad um

and he says mommy daddy i brought the amulet that you left me i maybe i can bring you back to life yeah let's see if i can do it so he starts quoting the words you know i can't remember what they are right now and of course they come back to life how does he know the words

Is it inherited when you're fucking spawned from Chucky? Yeah. It's such a load of shit, Karen. And he says, hello, I'm shitface.

And then Jackie's like, you're so ugly. What are you? And Tiffany's like, oh, my God, don't say that. He's just a poor little boy. Don't be mean to him. And he says, look, I've got a tattoo like you, Daddy. I'm your son.

and chucky's like oh jesus christ all the way through this he's like i don't want to disown this little piece of shit it's like he doesn't give a fuck it's like tropic thunder when um ben stiller's in uh like in the bush and he's saying that he's adopted a kid

to his agent, who's... What's he called? Matthew McConaughey. It's his agent, and he looks at it. I love this bit. It's so good. Well done. He just...

looks at a picture of his him with his kid and it's just this kind of kid just looking over kind of biggish with big afro and just looks a little cross-eyed he says well at least you can pick your one i'm stuck with the one i got it's very funny

When Chucky realised this, he's now a dad, he thinks. I'm assuming Chucky felt alright, alright, alright with this one as well, looking at his spawn, not knowing what it is.

But Tiffany says, come to mummy. And she hugs Glenn. But then someone comes in. It's like an engineer. Do some work on the effects of the dolls.

Yeah, he's on the phone. He says, well, look, I'll get the Tiffany doll working. I just need... Yes, but these things take time. I just need a few hours. I'm going to have to take her apart, find out what bit is malfunctioning. So he picks her up and he...

opens the back up but when he takes the back panel off we see intestines and ribs because inside these dolls are actually sort of living so he's like what the fuck um and behind him with a wire a chucky and uh well glenn's just watching

and they kill him and behead him with a like a piano wire and his head flies up in the air and this blood splatters all over them like bukkake and they kiss and they're tiffany and chucky because they're just they love killing people okay

and we get this love music playing and Glenn watching his what he thought were his parents behead a man and then kiss passionately covered in his blood he just pisses himself and um

This is where Tiffany reveals, oh, she's just a bit scared. And Tiffany's like, what do you mean she? It's a boy. And she's like, no, it's a she. And they have this argument about it. So we cut to, let's see what's in his pants.

They pull down his pants, and just like all the Action Mans and G.I. Joes and He-Mans, there's nothing down there because he's a toy. But Chucky's also a toy, so how did Chucky do it then?

Yeah, but Chucky's anatomically correct. He's boasted about that in numerous films. So she is as well, obviously, if she gave birth. But why isn't he then? I don't know.

Fuck off with this movie, you fucking cunts. And Chucky says, well, what is he then? And she says, well, I think we'll call you Glenn. And Tiffany says, no, we'll call you Glenda. And there's some confusion there.

And then Jennifer Tilly walks into the room and she assumes that the headless corpse on the floor is just a prop. She sees the Chucky doll, the Tiffany doll. She picks up the...

The head of the doll and says that the dead guy thinks, oh, it's just a prop. I'm going to give it a good old kiss. Meanwhile.

Tiffany's like, oh my god, it's Jennifer Tilly. She's so beautiful. I want to be her. I'm going to possess her. This is where she comes up with a plan of, I'm going to possess Jennifer Tilly.

Which is so meta, it's fucking mental, because Jennifer Tilly's doing the voice of a doll that wants to possess the real Jennifer Tilly. Oh my God, I didn't even think about that. It's just going to make me have a headache if I think any more about it. She picks up the head, she kisses it, and she realises it's real, and...

obviously calls the cops and the cops arrive the next scene and so do the reporters and they're sort of harassing her saying oh my god jennifer tilly you know what happened you found a head and um

She gets in her limo driver's car and the three dolls sneak out and get in the car with her. Yeah. And she's having a...

because obviously her driver uh fancies her and you can see this from the get-go he doesn't say anything but we can tell there's something there's something going on there he's really a lot more well they kiss they kiss okay oh okay yeah and obviously got the press all outside going what's going on what's going on

murder her and she's like oh just gets in the car and driven away yeah and the dolls follow her that's the important thing here um

So the dolls are all drinking in the back of the limo, as you do, and they're getting to know each other. And there's quite a funny joke here where Glenn, thinking, you know, he's Japanese because it says made in Japan, he's learned Japanese.

and he speaks a little bit of japanese to them and he says are you japanese were you guys like ninja warriors or samurais or something and they're like what are you talking about that's just where you were made it doesn't mean you're japanese um and um

Jennifer Tilly is sort of playing... Oh, yeah, Jennifer Tilly says, someone's playing me in a movie, and they can hear them talking, and she's like, I've got it, I've got the plan, Chucky. Tiffany says...

I'll be Jennifer Tilly and you'll be Red Man. And he's like, yeah, cool. All right. What the fuck? So Red Man and Jennifer Tilly are going to be possessed by these two dolls. This is their plan anyway. So a serial killer went into a doll.

found another doll they fell in love with who a woman who he changed into a doll because she was originally jennifer titty changed into doll in the movies right then they've had a child doll and now

him and the other woman want to go back so she's going to go back to jennifer titty who she came from but he's going from serial killer to red man what is going on with this film i'm gonna swear lots in a minute

Well, the plan is they're going to turn into these people and then they're going to bang so that they can have another baby.

because they're not quite satisfied, especially Chucky isn't quite satisfied with how Glenn has turned out so far. You do see dull tits in this, which is weird. You do. And it's not something I've ever said before, or hopefully say again. Um...

Jennifer Tilly is kissing her driver and she says to the driver, look, I'm going to try and fuck Redman tonight to get this role in this film.

And Tiffany in the back of the limo is like, oh, my God, Jennifer Tilly is a complete slut. So, you know, you've got lots of little in-joke references, which is quite funny. They put Glenda to bed or Glenn to bed. And he's sort of, mummy.

Why do you kill people? And Chucky's like, because it's a family tradition. It's a hobby. And Tiffany comes up with this epiphany. She's like...

No, no, no, no, no. We shouldn't do this anymore. We should quit. Let's all quit murder. Let's quit as a family. Cold turkey.

And Chucky sort of crosses its fingers behind his back and says, all right, if that's what you want, if that's what will make you happy, we'll quit murder. So, catch your breath.

Hannah from S Club 7, who is Jennifer Tilly's agent. I didn't realise this, but OK. She says, don't go and fuck Redman. You're better than this. Come on. She's like, look.

To be fair, her acting was okay, I remember, actually. She does quite a good American accent. I didn't think she was American before she was in British, actually. No, well, maybe she didn't then, but it was an American accent. Okay.

But she says, don't do it. And she's like, look, if you don't like it, then you're fired, Joan. Get out of my house. Because Redman's here. And outside you can hear Redman playing his own music in his Humvee. Oh, my God.

How bad's that? Yeah, just follow her. Okay, that's a weird thing to do, but all right. Just trying to give her good advice. So...

She says, look, here's what we're going to do. Tiffany says, here's what we're going to do. We're about to get to that now. Here's what we're going to do. Chucky, you are going to have a wank into a cup.

And I'm going to use a turkey baster to impregnate Jennifer Tilly. We're going to drug Redman and her. I've got to this point. What is going on? I'm not going to be in this film. Thank you.

And he says to Chucky, Chucky says to Tiff, well, I'll have a wank into this cup now, but I'm going to need some motivation. And this is where she flashes her doll boobs to him.

He goes into a cubicle, picks up some pornographic material. It doesn't work until he finds Fangoria. And it's like a gore scene. I love the fact at this point, this is...

This is, though, pretty much a spot-on role for John Waters. John Waters is outside trying to take photos because he's a paparazzi.

because of obviously what's going on with the murder and doing fertility and stuff. So he's there trying to get photos, like perhaps through windows and being a...

just being a bit like people's privacy and just evading it and he looks at him and goes oh my god because at first of all he sees Jennifer Tiddy banging

He sees something going on. Her and Redman, I think, possibly, or something like that. Yeah, they're sort of getting comfy. Yeah, and he's like, oh, great. Then he looks up and goes, oh, my God. Is it a midget or dwarf? I think they might say midget. He says...

He says something like... little people are so magical go get it little man you can see someone wanking in the window masturbating amazing he starts taking pictures and it's yeah and he's like you're taking pictures

possibly a little person masturbating it's like it's it's probably perfect for john walters uh that um but i don't know now while red man and jennifer tilly are flirting um

Tiffany's sneaking around, and she pours a load of sleeping pills into the champagne, so they're going to pass out later on. And Redman discusses Jennifer Tilly's career with her. He says,

you know i thought my favorite film of yours was um what was that one called where you and the other lesbian chick get it on and jennifer titty's like oh yeah banged yeah everyone loves that one i'm still friends with my

colleague in that actually if you want we could get together sometime oh i remember that movie one called back there i remember the movie what she's on about though it's not called bang yeah bang banged oh that was it

yeah yeah oh yeah it's a good good film they're two in a house in a room aren't they and there's someone trying to get them or something they're tied up together and they're lesbians and it's all very sexy yeah

A lot of young men probably really enjoyed that film, I should imagine. Yeah, I'm sure they did. Me being one of them. Anyway, they start kissing and...

Oh, that's what he says. He says, go get it, mini-me. You do you. That's what he sees. So I don't know if he thinks it's Ruin Troyer up there having a wank, but he definitely thinks it's a little person. Oh, man.

Tiffany knocks out Redman and goes and talks to Jennifer Tilly and Chucky Chucky walks in the room with a cup full of doll come and says what do you want me to do with this and this is where it's all like Jennifer Tilly's like what the fuck is going on there's the dolls from the film I'm in

are alive in my house one of them's got a cup full of semen asking me what i'm supposed to do with this and it's gone no go on and it's just like it's horrible the planet's inseminator it's just horrible

She slips over in the kitchen and they drag both of the bodies into the foyer. And this is where they say, God, Jennifer Tilly's back. So mean to her, because she's certainly not.

and they get the turkey baster um and they start getting ready to do the artificial insemination now glenn slash glenda is upstairs having more nightmares um but we'll come back to him in a moment

Chucky tells him later on, Chucky says to him, we'll go for a boys' night act together, don't you worry about that. So while Jennifer Tilly is about to artificially inseminate...

Sorry, whilst Tiffany is about to artificially inseminate Jennifer Tilly, Chucky and his son, Glenn, steal Redman's car and go on a little joyride. And this is where they kill Britney Spears.

Yes, this actually happens in the film. Such a weird movie. Now, when they put the trailer out for this film, they did have this scene in the trailer, and they did have to have a little disclosure at the end that said, Britney Spears is not actually in this film.

because they got a porn actress in to play a lookalike of Britney. But you've got Britney driving along, and they'd run her off the road, and when her car explodes, Chucky turns to his son and says, Oops, I did it again.

It's like, oh, come on, Chucky, you're better than this, please. The reporter prints out the photos in the darkroom, and while he's doing that... John Waters. John Waters. Glenn...

and chuck here in the room and it's great because he doesn't see them we see them as an audience but they're like hidden um and yeah he gets killed

basically there's a bit of a tussle and he falls over because of glenn and some sulfuric acid melts his face off pretty good effects actually john waters to get his face melted off and chucky says

Was that you, Glenn? I'm so proud of you. I knew you had it in you. Oh, that's my boy. Yeah. And Glenn didn't mean to do it. It was an accident. And he says, let's take a picture to get. So they take like a Polaroid selfie of them with the body. This will come back to.

bite Chucky in the ass later on. Oh, it's a lot. A lot of craziness in there. Yeah. Jennifer Tilly and Redman wake up. They think they possibly had sex.

She doesn't know what's going on. Was it a dream? I don't know. She must think it's a dream. The doll's walking around. Yeah. He leaves, and that's that, really. Tiffany is reading the 12-step programme. Oh, yeah. Because she wants to quit.

murdering people and so one of the things is to ask for forgiveness so she starts calling up people saying hello there my name's tiffany i'm a little doll that murdered your entire family and when you know in

10 years ago. I just wanted to say I'm really, really sorry about that. What the fuck? Imagine getting that phone call. It's a bit bizarre, isn't it? Jennifer Tilly gets in her limo and she starts throwing up.

morning sickness because it's a supernatural pregnancy so it's it works very very fast yeah so she's actually had the turkey baster with the chucky semen in her later on red man and jennifer titty have dinner um and she says i think i'm pregnant and it's yours red man and he's like nope

It ain't mine. She's like... And I can't hire you if you're pregnant. She's like, what? And he says, it wasn't me. I had a vasectomy. As soon as I got to Hollywood, there's absolutely no way it could be mine. So try that shit with somebody else.

Tiffany is so angry with the way he's speaking to her. She really wants to kill him and she tries to fight the urge. He sees someone behind him. He doesn't quite see. Go on, what were you going to say? No, I was going to say, yeah.

So Tiffany sneaks underneath the dining room table while Jennifer Tilly's out of the room and she stabs him in the dick and then opens up his guts.

and it's not often you see steaming guts, but all of his guts fall out onto the table with steam coming off them, because I guess they are hot. Yeah, I guess. So Redman has now been disemboweled. Yeah. Wow.

Jennifer Tilly leaves. She's crossed with Red Man. And Glenn is shocked at what he saw his mummy do. She's like, oh my God, Glenn. Glenda, I'm so sorry. Just pretend it didn't happen. So...

He's now covering up all these secrets from his family. He's accidentally killed someone with his dad. He's seen his mum kill someone who's told him not to tell anybody. It's all fucking weird. He gets a wonky eye. He gets a wonky eye. And this is the...

birth of his other personality who's glenda yeah we'll find out more about her um and because it's a voodoo pregnancy when she wakes up in the morning jennifer tilly has a very big pregnant tummy yeah

she calls her agent and says i'm pregnant and her agent's like oh how can this be i'm very confused about all of this um

And then Tiffany, there's a joke where Tiffany gets on the other line in the house and because they've both got Jennifer Tilly's voice, the agent's really confused about who's talking about who. It's all very strange. Yeah. They argue more about...

glenn slash glender's gender um and glenn just can't deal with it all he says listen i feel like a boy this is the whole very progressive point moment of the film he says i feel like a boy

and i feel like a girl can't i just feel like both of them and that as we've said is incredibly ahead of its time um he says it's just it's just

that's how i feel i feel like a boy and a girl at the same time you know i can't imagine what that might feel like but i certainly have millions of people out there that probably know exactly what that feels like and

chucky says like i want to just carry on killing and they argue about killing and this is where he finds red man's body it's quite a funny moment because um she's found out him and glenn have killed

John Waters, and then he opens a cupboard and Redman's body falls out and he goes, well, well, well, Tiffany, looks like you've been up to some murder as well.

She calls her limo driver and, yeah, it all just gets a bit confusing from here on out. The limo driver and Jennifer Tilly are tied up and gagged in a bed.

So now they're going to use the limo driver instead of Redman because, you know, Redman's been disemboweled. They haven't got anybody to possess for Chucky. So now he's going to be in a fucking limo driver. I'd rather be Redman, to be fair.

spitting rhymes with method man on stage but they begin the spell to possess these two humans just as Hannah from Earth Club 7 shows up

And Chucky says, I'll go take care of her. So he catches her on fire and throws her over the banisters and she dies. That's another one. And this is where...

Glenn now becomes Glenda. He's wearing Tiffany's dress. He's got makeup on and he's gone full Norman Bates and become his mum.

but called himself Glenda, and he reveals he's the one that killed Joan, not Chucky. Tiffany slaps Glenn, or Glenda, who snaps back to being Glenn.

And he's like, what am I, mummy? What am I? Am I a boy? Am I a girl? Am I a murderer? It's fucking batshit crazy, this, isn't it? This is why Tarantino didn't... It's just nonsense. It's just nonsense.

Anyway, we're getting towards the end now. Jennifer Tilly goes into labour and she has twins, a boy and a girl.

oh great we can maybe we can possess these twins i don't know yeah let's do that then so they start the chant again um and glenn uh needs to choose does he want to go into the boy baby or the girl baby

Which one do you want to be? And he's like, oh, I don't know. I don't know which one I want to possess. It's all very... Chucky says, I don't want to become a limo driver. I want to stay as a dolly.

I want to stay a killer doll. I'm invincible. Everyone knows me. I don't want to be a human. It's bullshit. So they argue about this because this is a late change in the plans for them. So Tiffany breaks up with him.

And she takes the kid and the limo driver gets stabbed and dies by Chucky. Tiffany stabs Chucky. They fight.

and then the cops arrive and they find dead red man dead hannah from s club seven dead limo driver two babies with red hair crying and Blood everywhere and two little dolls.

i can't think find where it is but at some point you had another character from lock stock two smoking barrels and it's doing an american accent i was like fuck off i can't think really yeah i think it was just uh i think it was just the

uh the one that plays nick the greek i think but i can't see him in the credits wow well um tiffany sneaks into the hospital where jennifer tilly is and spikes her drip so she passes out and she is now going to finish the spell to possess her body but

Chucky does a here's Chucky shining move and chops through the door tries to get to her but Chucky axes Tiffany in the head and says nobody leaves me he's quite brutal

Not very nice to women, but he is a serial killer. And Glenn does some Japanese karate. No? We've got a scene here just to make this even more batshit crazy.

He does some karate on his dad, Chucky. I've written here what the fuck is going on at this point. Tiffany wakes up in Jennifer Tilly's body. It worked. Yes. Jennifer Tilly, this is brilliant.

Glenn chops Chucky's limbs off and his head, so he's completely dismembered his father. And cut to five years later. And the two little red-headed kids are a little...

some kind of nursery like jennifer tilly set up like a foster agency or something i'm not sure and she's got these two little kids there um glenn and glenda one's got they've got red hair and um

Glenn is quite a little psycho, but so is Glenda. Tiff heals the nanny, but the Tiffany, sorry, Jennifer Tilly heals the nanny. I don't know.

Because she's possessed, but she's still Tiffany, isn't she? Oh, she says, nobody says anything bad about my kids or something like that. And Glenn, they're no real children, basically.

And then Glenn opens up a present, and it's Chucky's arm, which has arrived in the post for him, jumps up to grab him, and that's the end of the film. Now, listeners...

that was quite painful to listen to i should imagine it was quite painful to sort of go through really because it's so all over the place and the problem is is that they don't really follow up this

plot really much in in the next one certainly not the children too much but i believe and i've not seen it in the chance play tv series chucky

which is getting loads of praise. Apparently they do follow up on Glenn, Glenda and all the sort of business around that. So I do need to check that out. We were talking about Paramount. It's available to stream on Paramount, Gavin.

I've heard it's really, really good. I don't know if you've seen any episodes from the Chucky show. No. Apparently it's really good, so I will go and check that out at some point and see what they do with these weird plot threads.

But that's Seed of Chucky. They try so many things and unfortunately it just doesn't really work. You're right, Jennifer Tilly saves this film. Red Man's...

Didn't need to be in it. The little Glenn Glenda thing doesn't need to be in it. They should have just done the meta thing. And that's how Chucky gets back into himself.

Yeah. Through an animatronic tool and then carried on from there. They're filming a Chucky movie and Chucky comes back to life on the set but they don't know and it's a murder mystery. That would be great.

But no. It's really strange. I'm giving this thumbs down even if you are a fan of a series. And I wouldn't normally do that. If you're a fan of a series, I'm generally like, well, you should probably check it out. I wouldn't bother.

it's not going to give you anything i would say skip it and go on to this next one i didn't like it i don't think i liked the last one and this was don mancini's directorial debut oh was it so

Was he just producing the others, then? He must have been. Yeah, yeah. But this is why he wanted to direct the next one, which we'll come to after World of the Strange. But, Gav, I'm with you. Listen, guys, I love...

being a completist you will know about my ocd with franchises however skip this one yeah we're both in unison with this me and dan don't always well we do agree quite often but uh generally don't totally be

quite both i'm generally quite negative uh both quite negative with a film and yeah dan's right yeah there are some leprechaun films that are better than this there are

No, there aren't any Critters films that are better than this. Oh, God. Don't ever torch me by putting me in with Critters, Leprechaun and fucking this film. Oh, my God. Anyway, please, Bill.

save us bill murray come in here and with your little chucky doll yep oh you put oh you've dressed that up as a chucky doll interesting he's also dressed as a chucky doll i love that it's weird

Bill Murray as Chucky is odd. Oh, it's like Zombieland when he dressed up as a zombie, I guess. I guess. Right. Right, Bill, take us away from Seed of Chucky and into World of the Strange, please.

Hi, welcome back to World of Australia.

Welcome. Thank you, Bill, for World of the Strange. Thank you. Thanks, Bill.

Behave yourself today, please. Put that down. Put that down. Put it down. So, Chucky is a doll, a possessed toy. It is. I started thinking about it.

Possessed things, possessed inanimate objects. Right. And then I came across a list of the most haunted things that have ever been sold on eBay. Okay. eBay.

I haven't used eBay for years. I used to use it all the time. It's a good little place, though. I still regularly even say posted out a DVD. I am using it quite often.

Okay, well some of these objects are quite obscure. I'll start you off with the haunted bra. Yeah. The haunted Brazil. Yeah.

Yes, so it was a single used bra. White and a little bit worn. Size 32A, for anyone who wants to know. But...

The woman selling it also claims it's filled with spiritual power. The bra? Yes, that she's selling on eBay. A haunted bra. What was the size of it? 32A. Okay.

It's a third-hand bra, apparently belonged to a dead woman who lived a life with a lot of sexy parties and lots of drugs before she met an untimely end. And the seller says...

you'll want to buy this bra because her spirit is still within the bra and anyone who wears it will inherit success and wild love making i want to be out and about with this lady's brazil

I don't unfortunately have how much these items sold for. No. But she says, if you wear the bra and place it by a red candle, you'll get access to the spirit world and the secrets of this.

dead woman's success in bed there we go her success in bed what getting laid but who's going on who's going on ebay and typing in

Haunted bras. Got any of them on there? Oh yeah, there's one. So I can get men to bed. Or women. Or whatever. Imagine accidentally coming across that. Just looking up bras on eBay. It's a strange one, for sure.

How about some haunted tap shoes? Okay. Yeah. Simple pair of tap shoes, black leather, a red bow on them.

But they were last used a very, very long time ago. A little girl named Lisa, who loved to dance. She put them on one last time, and she died wearing them. You sound like you're singing the lyrics to a song.

Little Lisa, she loved to dance. She put them on one last time and then she died. They sat in an old nursery closet and so they were found by a real estate agent who was getting rid of everything in the house.

And they realise Lisa's spirit is still within the shoes. Because the seller, this is what the seller on eBay, this is what people will do to sell an item on eBay. Says that if you leave them, you will hear tapping.

Coming from your cupboard, whichever cupboard you leave them in, they like to still dance a little bit. Fuck off. Fuck off. What's the ghost doing? He goes, oh, I still like to dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab.

the fuck what's the energy so we're saying the energy because generally goes well we're saying it's energy we're saying the energy in all of these things

bras tap shoes it's doing it so the energy is still there the shoes still know that they were used as tap shoes so they're like bounce to tap to tap tap

My only thing is, I tried my best to find out the prices that these were sold for on eBay, but I couldn't find it anywhere. Is it like another Adam Sandler film? You know, The Cobbler? Have you seen that one?

Yeah, I like that one. And he becomes whoever he puts the shoes on who owns the shoes. Does that mean, like, if you put these shoes on, all of a sudden you're just fucking as Fred Astaire fucking shoot, fucking dancing down the street?

Well, they're tiny because they don't belong to a nine-year-old girl. Well, you're very painfully tiptoeing down the street dancing and tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Look at that man go with his little girl tap shoes.

You could recreate the scene in the Greasy Strangler where he just does a nice little dance down the street. Absolutely. Which, by the way, that is now our most popular episode in the last year.

Is that because of the Greasy Strangler, please, listeners? Let us know. It's crazy. Well, like I said, I don't know how often that movie's going to be covered.

by podcast so you might just be looking for and discover the show and welcome if you did the next item that i found that was sold on ebay

is one that you'll like, especially if you'll like the name of it. It could be a good pub name, but it also reminds me of an incident with custard that me and you discussed a long time ago. It's called The Thirsty Donkey.

And it's basically a bottle, like an ornamental bottle with a donkey attached to it, a pretend donkey, like a little one, you know, on a shelf, that they call the Thirsty Donkey. But...

This is haunted, this item. It was found in an old person's house. He says, I didn't know anything about it because it was my grandmother's and it was in her house the whole time I knew her. She always kept it full of water and I never knew why.

after she passed away i was taking care of her estate and i bumped into it one day and i thought hang on a minute this is full of water still so i emptied it out and the next day it was full of water again

Drink it. It just seems to be filling up every day. Stop your fucking water bill. Brilliant. Cancel that shit. Look what you've got. His grandmother never explained why she had it or where it came from.

and now she's passed away he'll never know the story behind it but what he does say is if you keep this in your house it will always be full of water is this was this on ebay yeah Well has it been returned to him?

Well, also, if you're getting it sent to you through e-mail, the postman knocks on the door and he's like, all right, this is a bit wet. This parcel is wrapped up, but it's just leaking everywhere. Exactly. When it comes to you, as soon as it turns up, you're like, it's empty.

why is there no water in it now would you drink the donkey water from that bowl of water well it's a bottle uh no would you

Yeah, I think I'd see what was going on there. If this is like ectoplasm or something from a spirit world that's filling up this... Well, if it's ghost chairs.

It could just be that in his grandma's house there was a leak directly above it. Absolutely. Just dripping. It could just be like toilet water. It could be the toilet water just dripping into it. Could be.

Okay. Well, that was another item. Here comes another one. What about a haunted Ziploc bag? Okay.

I don't know how this works, so I'm intrigued. The seller is called Rusty Raccoon on eBay and says, I have got these Ziploc bags that can transport... anything you put in them to another dimension all right

Would you be able to possibly record a video showing me the objects being transferred to another universe, please? Thank you, kind smiley face, Gav. He says...

These bags have got a mystical power of reversing time. So if you put your food leftovers inside them and snacks and then seal them up, not only does it keep them fresh, it actually makes them fresher. Fuck off!

Then the first time. So if you put like mouldy food in them in the morning, they'll be fresh as if they were just baked at that moment. How was he going to fucking...

It's obviously not going to happen. How the fuck are your fingers going to get away with this? And this is just... Is it the same eBayer with the bowl of water? No. But this guy is selling these...

I've got a price on this one. $25 per bag. How many has he got? He's selling normal Ziploc bags, telling people that they've reversed time.

And I presume he knows someone is going to buy one because someone is going to buy one. And then when they say I want money back, he's just going to scarper. He also says this is really cruel.

That if you know someone who's dying or very ill, if you cut off a lock of their hair and put it in one of these bags for 24 hours, they will be healed. He's a cunt, isn't he?

imagine that your grandma's dying of cancer so you spend 25 on the ziploc bag cut off a bit of what are you doing just cutting off your hair granny i'll put it in here didn't save it is it

Yeah, well, hopefully they won't have chemotherapy because they won't have any hair. Well, moving on to the next item, which is a smelly photograph. I don't know what smells.

So this is basically an ancient brand photo of a sharp-dressed gentleman, I've got the picture here, who's long since obviously passed away from the Victorian era. The man is apparently called Martin.

That's what we know of him. And it was found in a dusty old attic. And the owner was impressed, and put this on eBay, you know, to sell it, that this photograph, he gets it out quite regularly to show guests who come around his house. Who said to Bishop?

do you want to see this photo of martin from the victorian era but as time went on with him showing off this photo something didn't seem quite right or should i say something didn't smell right

Because the photo smells strangely of aftershave and tobacco. Almost like the spirit of Martin is still within the photograph.

So whenever you get this photo out... It smells of the 80s, doesn't it? Whenever you get it out, it smells of Old Spice and barbarous. Fucking Old Spice and B&H. Fucking hell. That was the 80s.

Just on a side note, when you buy something off of eBay, I've bought a lot of toys. Obviously, I've got the full set of He-Man figures, which is worth quite a lot of money these days.

And some of them were very rare. When I bought them, they'd been found in someone's attic. And you get it, and it still smells like the 80s. It still smells like cigarettes and plastic. And someone's old attic full of crap. But anyway...

so this photograph smells a little bit of tobacco and aftershave and he decided i'll pop it on ebay see if anybody wants to buy it so he did and yeah someone bought it

I don't know for how much. Again, who's going on eBay to search for smelly photographs? Smelly photo. It's so weird.

I don't know. That sounds like something someone might actually look up. You get weird folk out there. Yeah, that's true, actually. Looking for wanking material, Dan. Smelly photos. Yeah. Humans. Humans do weird shit.

Nothing surprises me anymore. Someone's selling a knob on eBay. See? A door knob. A door knob.

a doorknob that used to be on the door of an insane asylum. Okay. Kind of called in a way-ish, kind of, I guess. I don't know.

So this is a doorknob from the door to an asylum and someone put this on eBay and said it contains dark energy.

Because it was the door of a very insane and violent person from a long time ago. So who wants to buy this doorknob?

I don't know. I remember once somebody put, we all know the singer Kylie Minogue, somebody put a bag of air on eBay and said it was Kylie Minogue's breath.

And someone bought it. Of course they fucking did. What are you going to do with it? Read it in? A woman recently, she made a load of money selling her farts.

Well, Gwyneth Paltrow sells money selling her fanny candles. That's odd. I don't know how it smells. And then, if you want to...

You can just Google, you can go on eBay and search haunted dolls and there's thousands of them on eBay. And again, who wants to buy? Oh, I know one person who would buy a haunted doll. Yeah.

Sarah. Me and Sarah. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I was... Was I with Sarah? I don't know. Were the kids? I don't know. I was somewhere and I saw a doll and I said, oh, I don't need this doll.

It's four quid. I didn't buy it. I don't need this doll. But it really looks creepy as fuck. I don't know. Maybe I should buy it. I was with Sarah actually in Cherry Shop.

I didn't buy it. If it's still there, I might buy it. It's quite small, but it looked real, real, real creepy. I don't normally go dolls or whatever, but I was like, man, this one, if it could be a haunted one, it's this one. See ya.

That is my list. Well done. But I, talking of dolls, once I went on a hen do. Yes, a hen do. I was the only man invited. Because it was one of my best friends.

Back in the day, I don't speak to her anymore. But it was me and like 12 girls. And we all went away to a country. It was near where Agatha Christie's from, actually. A country sort of...

cottage huge bedrooms so many bedrooms and there was an attic room which was also called the nursery and no one slept up there and the reason no one slept up there is because when we went up there there was about a hundred

really old dolls all just sort of arranged on these shelves it was the creepiest thing i've ever seen i thought there's absolutely no way i'm staying in this room so i stayed in a room downstairs on my own fucking should have done no way man

No way. No way. You were mentioning me on your podcast. I was about to say that, yeah. We were just saying about your mama show when we went out in the woods.

uh not in the woods in a graveyard we went ghost hunting i've got those videos somewhere did we put them up on the patreon yeah our patrons are have those and they can watch those anytime they want

We did it twice. Let's do it again. We probably need to do a new World of Strange. Go to that cemetery near you. Because Sarah could do it as well. Because me and Sarah always like to make these little videos when we're out. We always try and do these things. But actually...

got a holiday in october week of halloween we're actually going to try and go some to some spooky spots well i tried videoing behind me as i came downstairs the other day oh yeah in the morning yeah there was nothing nothing to be seen

That's good though. You've got to keep doing it. My children still do sometimes mention the faraway children. Yeah. It has come up a couple of times. Edith got scared the other day because she heard some... I didn't hear it. She said she heard a clicking, like someone clicking their fingers. Okay.

i said i didn't hear anything she said oh no it was like clicking you know when you click your fingers daddy i said yeah well could be anything it could be yeah but there we go well that's good i appreciate that thank you what's the weirdest thing you've ever bought on ebay bill

leopard skin thong what was it haunted oh it was made from an actual leopard and your balls would just sit either side well

That comes with age, my friend. I think you probably had it on backwards, Bill. Might be. Was it quite saggy at the back? Yeah. Yeah. Well, there we go. Bill, I think it's time for us to...

Get out of the world of the strange. Can you please go that way and get us out of here? Take us away. That's all the time we've got for this week on World of the Strange. Next week, though, give me Ira. Hairless pets.

Weird. Who's it from? It doesn't say. You found him. Chucky's my friend till the end. Hey, wanna play?

Can't we sleep in with you tonight? It's only a storm. Good night, baby. Sweet dreams. Don't forget Chucky.

It's a doll. What's the worst that can happen, huh? It's time to play.

Curves of Chucky from 2013, rated 18. Only for the adults, no children allowed. 1 hour 37 minutes. After a mother's mysterious death. Nika.

begins to suspect that Chucky may be the key to recent bloodshed and chaos. Chaos! That was a bit ASMR there and I got a bit...

I should do that. That would be quite good. Yeah, that is this film. I'm a fan of it. It's only a 5.6 out of 10 on IMDb. Again, written and directed by Don Mancini.

Yeah, he really wanted to return the franchise to its horror roots and does a bloody good job, in my opinion. I agree. He, this...

This film in the franchise gets praised as having the best cinematography and best production. It's got a nice feel to it. The atmosphere, it's got a nice feel.

Yeah, they've got a really good location. It's just one house for the most part. There's a great idea of a woman in a wheelchair, much like the movie we covered years ago, Lady in a Cage. A woman in a wheelchair.

um so when the power goes out she can't get up and down in the lift very much um and chucky it's a very small cast you know chucky's taking out sort of half a dozen people and that's it really it's simple

And especially after Seed of Chucky, it really strips it back to just Chucky on his own, killing a very small group of people in one location. We don't get all these crazy cameos and...

jokes and there are some funny things in it um the other really amazing thing they do in this movie and the one that comes after this is brad deriff's daughter fiona deriff is in this as nika who is very good she is great in this um good good actress um pretty lady um yeah i think she's great

Yeah, she's really good. What sort of stuff she up to? I'll have a look. They shot this in 30 days. It's very small, but...

Really well done. And again, the budget really has gone on the effects, really. The kills are good in this one, really good. But Chucky looks fantastic in this one. She's in the Chucky TV series. I don't know how much, how many episodes are.

Yeah, there's two seasons of that. Oh, by the way, it's not in Paramount, I checked. You have to buy it, unfortunately. Now, what this film does is a sneaky little...

It also attaches itself halfway through. You realise this film is part of the earlier films. It does loop it back around quite nicely when someone discovers that they are the illegitimate.

Daughter of Charles Lee Ray. Sorry to interrupt. It's got to be that they must have, after a couple of years or whatever, they looked back at Cedar Chucky and been like, what the fuck were we doing? We were just flying via cocaine.

and money or something. Or I don't know what.

I don't know. And then just go, right, we need to do something more serious. And I love the fact it is literally one location. You know, I'm a sucker for one location, but when it comes down to it, it's going to be more cost effective to make a film set in one location. You don't have to keep moving the fucking crew around.

It's there. You don't have so many setup, or not how many, but you don't have to change the location for the setup all the time.

um and it works so much better and geography is so much easier you don't straight away you take out of your head having to worry about where am i where's going on what's up where are we

we know it's really simple so it's just an um it's just a great way of doing a film and taking it back to roots of horror this is what horror is horror movie this is the other movie is horror comedy um which is fine got no problem with that

but yeah this is back to form not you sorry Don Mancini said and a bit of a diss to seed he said Curse of Chucky was the first horror film I directed

So he's completely glazing overseas. Good. Because he considers that a comedy, really. Yeah, so he's on with us. And they also make reference to Andy, Andy Barkley in this.

the Kincaids and a few other people as well um so yeah they do tie this in but not in a forced way and it doesn't really it's not the driving part

element of the plot, really. The plot is more about what's going on in this house, really. And it's great. And it works really, really well. And, spoiler, we always go spoilers, Chucky wins in this one. Chucky wins.

Little bastard. So, yeah, should we dive in? Just get straight in, man. Let's just slip ourselves straight in. I'm in. Did you not know?

That's the worst, isn't it? Apologies to any micropenis listeners out there. Is it in yet? Discovered recently and I've got a micro bum. Oh. What does that mean?

Same as the micro-peanuts. I've got a really tiddly, tiny bottom. You have. I have. Ben has one as well, my DP. I've never really thought about that, but yeah, you do have a very small butt. I have got...

quite a large bottom but not in a fat way just in a sort of rounded very sort of um Nicki Minaj but I've got my wife's always commenting on it

and the reason i say ben has as well it's not like i look at ben's ass it's just he's actually he can no because his genes are always falling down like mine were always falling down and he actually let me know the idea is like it's because i haven't got a butt so it just falls

down i was like that's exactly me so we're both like micro butts whereas my jeans never slip past my butt because my butt is like a shelf

I could put a pint glass on mine and walk around with it. Did I tell you what he's doing at the moment? With his butt? No, he's on tour of Kendrick Lamar. Oh, okay. He's tattooing.

He's with a 200 crew, Kendrick Lamar. He's currently in, he's off to Rome. He's in Europe at the moment. And if he does, we might carry on to Germany. He's been, he did all over England.

So he's there. And so when the crew want tattoos, they just come up and he does them a tattoo. So it's fucking incredible. How funny. Yeah. He just said, I'm basically going on tour Kendrick DeMar. I just sent us a message.

Okay. It's not like you're here every day. Not really, no. Have you ever been on tour with anybody famous? No.

And I sent him off to Rome. And I said, well, go see Dario Argento's museum, Profondo Rosso. So I topped it into my maps, found the location, shared it to him. And he's like, that's five minutes from the stadium. Brilliant.

Is the museum called Profunda Rosso? Mm-hmm. Oh, amazing. Yeah. I want to go there sometimes. I've never been to Rome. Yeah, I've not been to Rome. I wouldn't want to go in, actually. Yeah, I'd love to go. Well, that's another reason to go, really, isn't it? Yeah.

All right.

Back to this. There we go, little Tundra. Back to Coast of Chucky. So, this is basically a lady, which is the mum and the daughter, live in this big, kind of spooky sort of house. It does seem quite a big house for these two people, especially as the lady is...

wheelchair fiona um um nika um and the mums presumably a carer as such because but that's not what in any way saying nika seems to be i don't know what her condition is but she does um she is in a wheelchair she's paralyzed but that but

paradise people can adapt to life very easily and live by themselves um well we find out that the reason she's in the wheelchair is because when she was in the womb Charles D Ray stabbed her mother in the stomach and severed one of hers.

bits of her spinal column i guess or something i presume something like that yeah my second brain we do find this later on don't we um yeah so so that's her situation um and presumably her mum's there looking after her i guess we don't

to have a job there's no mention of that because it's quite mum's not in it for too long to be fair no no No, and there is a package at the door, and we know in these movies when there's a big package at the door, it's usually going to be a Chucky doll.

Yeah. And the man, I love this scene because the guy's like, as we've said, Fiona Dourif, Nika is quite hot. And the guy, like the Amazon delivery driver, he's like, oh, hi. He's like, all right, you're all right, aren't you?

And she's like, yeah. And he looks at her wheelchair and he carries them and he's like, do you live on your own? She's like, no, I live with my mum. And he's like, oh, is she home? Because, you know, I could come in if you want. He's holy as fuck.

He wants to deliver his package. You're kind of hot, aren't you? Yeah, wheelchair's no problem.

Can I come in and bang you? Is that okay? He's like, haven't you got deliveries? Well, I have got a delivery, and you're going to get it in a moment. No, my mum is home, she says. Yeah. And...

See, Fiona, well... nika takes the package in and says oh i think that guy was flirting with you you don't know what you're talking about mum was eavesdropping listening so that very straight away though this film is way better than see the chucky because straight away we know very

easily without too much pressure or forcedness that the mother is a slightly possibly overbearing or over protective of her daughter which is nothing wrong with that um it's it's we all love our children so that's you know that's a fun thing to do not a fine thing but a fair thing to do um

but that's where we see that very easily and quickly that is laid out which is good writing and good filmmaking yeah um and they open up this chucky doll

Well, they open up the package and it's a Chucky doll. They open up the Chucky doll. And what is this? I don't know what it is. And she sort of squeezes it and it says, Hi, I'm Chucky. Wanna play? And her mum's like, Oh, I don't know who sent this, but let's put it straight in the bin.

He's always getting put in the bin these times, aren't they? Every movie, just chucky-chucky in the bin. Chucky-chucky. Chucky-chucky. With the Chuckle Brothers. Surely you'd just take it to a charity shop, because that's a bit of a fucking wasteful...

It's just going for landfill now. That's just silly. But it's night time, Daniel. And that night... And spookiness happens at night time. I like here we get an outside exterior shot of a big creepy house and screaming going on.

How cool is that? What I feel they do with this location, whenever you see it from outside, with the thunder and lightning on this house...

They've almost recreated a live action version of that first child's plate poster if you remember rightly it's just a house it's the apartment big house yeah and it's almost like they've recreated that oh it's a bit like the bakes motel house as well it's kind of got that

vibe to it, isn't it? It's great. And it's just, whenever they show an established shot of the outside of the house, very well done Don Mancini, very well done.

We're loving this film now. We're loving this. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to check out the director of photography and see what else that person has done. But like you say, we hear a scream in the middle of the night and Nika...

can't find her mummy. She's looking around the house and she's in a wheelchair, Nika. And she sees a puddle of blood on the floor that's growing. It's coming out of her mum. So this puddle of blood is her mum's.

cool shot talking of photography gav we see as the puddle of blood sort of grows bigger and bigger you see nika's reflection in it looking at her dead mum and it's she calls 911

And... Presuming the director of photography just got better with time, to be honest with you, because he also shot Seed of Chucky.

He shot Ginger Snaps back, the beginning. Oh, very good. He did an episode of Haunted, Hannibal, sorry.

So, not a huge amount, but he did do quite a few. Joyride 3. Nothing great. But this is shot very well. I need a third one of those. Yeah, I don't know. But this is a...

This is a well-shot movie. It is. And then we get our title, The Curse of Chucky. And we get a lovely creepy score and the police arrive and they take the mother's body away.

And then later on, Nika's sister shows up with her husband and daughter. Nika's niece.

So we get more people turning up because they're there to support. Now, this film, just chucking out an overall umbrella, looking at this film again, just another thing that this movie does outside of the story, what we'll talk about immediately right now.

is it doesn't show Chucky like fucking Jaws does. It doesn't show Chucky at all.

doing any killing really for a very long time it chucky himself doesn't present himself to anyone else in the house a very long time so we really have

the movie i said last time we should have been like a murder mystery set in a film studio with this again should be this where chucky's not doing it and the tension in between and is the girl whose mother just died

traumatic in in shock she's thinking the doll's moving around and all that sort of stuff it really works well as a claustrophobic uh thing inside this building and it just works as a great um

build up as well to something else and it's just not showing Chucky just works especially because we do see Chucky but

They all just think he's a doll. Yeah, so for us, we know, watching a Chucky movie as soon as you go into it, we know what's going on. Like you said, as soon as that package turns up, we know that Chucky's coming out and he's killing people because we've come to a fucking cinema to watch a Chucky movie.

So we know as the audience, they don't know. And the fun thing for us as the audience, they don't know, so we're watching them discover it. Obviously, in the other movie, it's all meta and all fucking craziness. So, you know, it's...

But this brings tension to this film so much more because we're like, oh, don't look behind you sort of thing. So Mika's sister, Barb, turns up with her husband, Ian, and their daughter, Alice, and a priest.

Father Frank, because they're still quite religious and Mika isn't.

and he's like well i'm here to talk if you want she said well i'm not religious i don't need to talk to you mum's dead enough that and they sort of talk about this it was quite strange that this possibly it doesn't come across it fits in fairly well because they do say oh do you want to stay for

dinner so it keeps him there it could come across slightly forced haven't it i guess not really actually because he's just there to say i you know i'm really sorry i suppose actually not and he remembers he remembers them from when they were children he's been there he has a horrible death

Yeah, he does. And they can't blame Chucky on that, but we'll get to it. It's really good. It's really well made. And Barb says, do you want to pray? And says, even if she killed herself, which we suspect she did.

mum could still potentially go to heaven. And the priests are, yeah, you know, it's fine. We accept suicides now in the church. They sort of have this very loose conversation around it. And we also have...

another lady called Jill who is an au pair and there's a great plot twist here because it's normally the husband who's having an affair with the au pair or the nanny but in this movie

It's the mum who's having a gay affair with the nanny, which is a brilliant plot twist. No one's all coming the first time I saw this. We don't see this until a little bit later on, because as it goes along...

i'd forgotten this as it goes along straight around like well she's the nanny's hot the reason well we know why she's hot because her dad's gone and said oh that we'll take this one and i assumed that that was it because i couldn't remember

And then I was like, oh, no. Later on, we get to the mum kissing. Later on, we get to it. Kissing her in the kitchen. It's like, oh, shit. But spoiler, we're jumping ahead.

Now the little girl Alice says I need to use the bathroom so she goes off to the bathroom and she finds in the shower the Chucky doll. Which straight away Nika's just like in the bath.

in the bathroom and it's just very quick it's just in passing where nika's uh uh paranoia starts to go here i was like how

did that dog get in the bathroom because obviously she's the only one in the house she's in a wheelchair she hasn't why would she go put the fucking chuck it on the bath so straight away that gives her like what the which is done very gently now we should say that

Chucky doesn't look like he normally does. He's all cleaned up and looks very like a good guy doll, you know, cute little cabbage patch doll type thing.

and alice falls in love with him and because she's just lost her grandma then i let her keep the doll it's fine it's a sign

you know it's just a doll it's all good let her keep it so she's hugging him like ah he's my little friend i love him he's so nice i don't understand uh nika's uh problem here with selling the house but her sister's saying you should sell the house and it's like yeah it's

quite decrepit. There's bits where there's fucking water leaking in, in rooms, dripping in, because that causes a death rate later on, a very Final Destination style. And... it's it's a lift which could possibly cut out if there's power cuts and but she's like no i'm staying here why

Yeah, it's because it's a family home, I guess. But come on, just get with it. You're not in a position because, again, if you're in a lift and the power goes out, you're fucking stuck there forever. It's just crazy.

But I think it's because Barb, her sister, wants the money

so that she can run away with Jill, because later on they discuss running away. Yeah, but sure, I can understand that, though. If you're, like, in equal inheritance, oh, you both own a house, and if you're not living there, it's like, well, what am I getting out of this?

So I can understand that. And there's a great little moment here again for us as the audience where when they finally convince everybody to let Alice keep the doll, the dad Ian just says, come on.

What's the worst that could happen? And we're like... Classic. Classic wine. So it's good, it's good. Nika makes some dinner. That's just a surprise. You can cook for six people. What?

and she's like yeah it's like what the she's only in a wheelchair

Why can't she cook? Obviously the kitchen's going to be at a point lower so she can cook stuff because it's probably been a bit more... I was just a bit surprised there. I don't know if it seemed lazy writing there because it's like the sister wouldn't...

The sis would know. Well, they haven't seen each other much, and they don't like each other, I don't think. But Alice helps with the cooking, the little girl helps with the cooking, and you're probably going to talk about...

seeing the little hands i love that i love the fact that we just we're still not seeing chucky but we know it's chucky but we're just seeing okay it's not a pov but we're just seeing like a hand putting something in to rat poison

into one part of the food and not all of the meals. It seems to be a bowl. Yeah, because the food is served up into six bowls. It's chilli, yeah.

And Chucky, I guess Chucky was planning on putting rat poison in all of the bowls, but he only managed to do one of them. Maybe he got interrupted. Yeah. Well, they all come in then, don't they? They all come in to eat. But this, when you're writing this script...

I know you didn't write it when you were writing the script. When I was writing this script, Galf. When it was being written, I...

Would love the fact that we're coming up with ideas for how to do this and being like, oh, well, next thing would be sitting at dinner. Then what would be that? Why could you get Chucky Boys? That's perfect. Then, all of a sudden, you've turned this movie into suspense.

fucking flooding with suspense bloody gushing with suspense this is it's a gusher and it's it's just like um there's one bowl of poison that's six people

And we as an audience don't know who's got it. It's the deer hunter sitting there with a gun pointing at your head. And the suspense is perfect because as it goes round, different members of the family have an issue. The girl goes, oh, oh, and you straight away...

as an audience we're like oh no and the cat everyone looks at her and she's like oh i just didn't i didn't like that bit and i oh okay it

And everybody has like a little thing. You're like, is it them? It's great. It's great. It's basically Russian roulette with a chilli. It's a murder mystery. We don't know who it's going to be. Agatha Christie, basically.

um and this movie is essentially a murder mystery in a spooky house but the killer is a serial killer inhabiting a doll sold ticket sold i'm in dad's nipples just went hard

Not pretty big and long. No. they're all eating this food like you say and they start discussing the doll a little bit and there's some backstory where they say oh i remember those dolls they were all over the place in the 80s those good guys yeah yeah

And the priest says, hmm, I seem to remember something about them in the news. And he can't quite remember what it was. It's funny because if it had been like he said that earlier and Chucky's like, oh, I'm going to bump him off, that kind of makes sense because we just...

do discover that the father is the one that has to bowl the chilli. But it's almost like, it's like Chuckie's like, yeah, that's great, because he started remembering about something which was basically me and death.

surrounding people yeah now yeah you're right the priest starts dripping with sweat and he's very clearly not well and it's because he's ingested quite a lot of rat poison

um so he's like i need to leave i think i need to leave now and just before this you're cutting two close-ups on all the mouths as they eat it

You know, if I was right in this scene myself, this is what I would do. So I give this total thumbs up to this whole scene. It's great. Very weird tangent, Gav.

But talking of mouths eating close up, I'm reminded of The Substance. Did you notice that the girl from The Substance was in Happy Gilmore 2? Yep. Cool. I got Charlie on Sunday sat and watched The Substance. I went...

No, Saturday or Sunday. I think I went swimming or doing something else. And I was like, oh, I'll leave you to it. Nice, enjoy. And I said, do you enjoy it? I said, enjoy. Okay. Yeah. Best horror film in 25 years.

The father's like, I've got to be going. Are you sure? He's like, yep, I've got to go. I'm so apologised because he's leaving halfway through a meal but he's sweating a bit so they presume they could probably go like, oh, he must be a bit poorly.

but i would i would probably insist though if i had a guest there and they started like that happened i'd be like no we need to get you sorted out let's take you to a bathroom because there's obviously something happening here

So I probably wouldn't let him go home to drive, to be honest with you. We cut immediately to the scene of a terrible car crash. Now, this is great because no way, not that anybody's going to think a fucking doll done this, but there's no way until...

until they give an autopsy. I don't know if they would because it's kind of obvious. Which they do later on. You have to have autopsies anyway, don't you? Well, this is how it all gets tied back to an ego later because they find the rat poison. Right. Okay.

But the car crash is the priest's car and just a random poor guy who's dead on the road. He's flown out of his windscreen. And I think Chucky... Because Chucky obviously...

wasn't staring at which bowl it was I think Chucky kind of knew obviously because he starts sweating the leaves because Chucky is watching out the window as he drives away yeah we see that

That's really cool. And it's just a little tiny shot of him. But yeah, so one of the drivers is dead and a cop turns up and he says, oh, I know this father. I know this priest. And he's like, oh, he's not dead. He's still alive.

Oh, really? Yeah, but we don't know how long he'll be alive for. There's lots of blood coming out of him and we don't know where it's coming from. And it's just like Mel Gibson's wife in signs. He's been pinned across the throat by a piece of metal.

The cop insists, now come on, take it off of him, take it off of him. And as soon as they do that, his head falls off.

so basically that metal was keeping his head on it's a really well good made scene it's kind of very much like the signs scene when mel gibson goes to his wife so like then they go over this one cop's just like what are you doing he's taking it's a father come on i know him

it take pull the car everybody come on pull car they're like we don't think we should do that pull the car away and like you say pulls car away and that's the thing which was kept his head to the spine connected and pulled it away and it

boom drops it's quite a like whoa shit that's quite a full-on scene and it's so much more better made than fucking tina chucky

Well, that's two deaths now from Chucky in this movie already. But nobody in any way thinks that Chucky has done it. Nobody thinks a doll or some weird thing out of play is going on at the moment. These are just...

unfortunate circumstances and situations can winky dinks of people dying so it's great it's really well made cut to another one of many and establishing shots of the house it's now raining it's looking very spooky

and the family are all home watching home movies from their childhood in front of the tv what what is it why is the nanny even there she doesn't well i know why because the mum's insisting but when it comes down to it i'd be like

Can't we just look after the kid? We're sitting here doing nothing. Can't we look after our own child? The mummy has got her there because she's drinking from the furry cup. They are fingering each other.

So they discuss family times a little bit and they talk about how Nika and Barb's dad drowned before Nika was even born.

And then we as an audience recognize somebody in the video. Charles Lee Ray. What's he doing in a family home movie? Who's that guy? I don't know. Is he a neighbor? Maybe he was one of the neighbors. I don't know.

And they'll come back to that later on. I missed this, you know. They're sowing a little bit of the seed into the... Alice comes into the room and says, I can't find Chucky anywhere.

Can somebody help me find him? Where did you leave him? Well, I don't know. I didn't lose him. He's hiding. He likes to play hide and seek. And Jill, the au pair, says, I'll go and find him.

Fuck that. If I was in a spooky house like this and somebody said, go and find a doll that's hiding.

I'd be like, no, I'm all right. I'll just sit here with my sister, thanks. Yeah, but you don't actually think a doll's going to come to life and kill you. I know you, but I'd be like, I'll go find the doll. It's fine. It'd be quite fun. Take a torch with you, you know.

I'll tell you what the other day I was doing, I was playing VR Paranormal Activity. I've got that, the game. Jesus Christ, I wouldn't play it.

Because it doesn't faze me at all. I just walk around the house and talk to her. Come on. Fucking come on. You cunts fucking get me. Come on. That's what I'm like with it. And I was watching it with Elijah. And someone, this little girl was there all of a sudden. Elijah screamed. And he didn't even have the VI.

headset is watching the tv but it's a bit like what you're doing here you walk around the house spook house thunder and lightning but it's like you're actually walking around the house you know

I would do that. It's fun. Come next time you're around. Bang it on. Have a go. So they also, whilst Jill goes off to find Chucky, they realise the phone lines are down. Yes!

We love it. We love it when this happens. So Jill's searching for Chucky. She does find a lot of other spooky dolls in this house. I'm knocking the door now and it's a chuckle, brothers.

Oh yeah, we've come to clean your windows. We've come to fix the electricity. What, at midnight? In the rain? Yeah. And then they take on Chucky. And really, they're paranormal investigators. It's all a guy's.

It's all a guy's. I can't wait to see this movie. Those two as paranormal actors and they discover Chucky and then it turns into a fucking versus. Fucking well good. Don't cross the streams. Well, to me, to you.

He slimes me. American and Canadian and any other part of the world, listeners, please, you don't have to go on YouTube and look up Chuckle Brothers. You can do, but you're not going to be rewarded in any sense from it.

Anyway, Jill finds lots of other dolls that are quite spooky, but she can't find Chucky. She goes off to the bathroom and we get the classic sort of shower curtain blowing.

And there's a nice jump scare there where the window sort of slams and she shuts the window to stop the wind from coming in. She goes into the kitchen and Barb is in there.

And this is where it's revealed. They have a big French kiss. And it's like, oh my God, they're the ones having the affair because they've been planting false seeds because the dad keeps saying things like, I don't know why we're paying her.

$200 a week to look after our kid. And he says things... He...

It also later on transpires he already knew about the affair as well, which is cool. You could go back and watch this again and know these things. It's quite layered. And it's a nice switcheroo having the mum.

Yeah, that was really well made. In fact, he knows as well it's really good because later on he says, oh, I planted a fucking... He plants a Cameron Chucky doll. So later on he's just all of a sudden... Yeah, I'm going to watch this all of a sudden. It's like, hang on. Why is the doll running around slashing up?

People.

yeah it's quite spooky it's great i love the fact that the idea is put the camera on him to spot catch his wife cheating and it's on the chucky doll it's fucking brilliant it really is yeah it's great yeah it's great well nika

is wheeling around in her chair and she finds she finds chucky but chucky is sat next to ian who's fallen asleep on the sofa and she goes oh you found him and he wakes up uh yeah

Because he didn't find him. He fell asleep and Dolby was just there. Chucky says a few of his classic lines. He starts off with, Life is short. I like to be hugged. Hi, I'm Chucky.

And when he says that one, the dad's like, ah, that's the classic line. That's the best line. I love that one when he says that one. Nika goes off to give him back to Alice, and she gets in the lift, but...

The lift breaks down. Because of this lightning, this electrical storm, power is in and out in the house. That's why the phone lines are down. So that's why you don't live in the house and sell it. So she's now trapped in a lift.

with a Chucky doll in the dark. While there's kissing going on, and she's ringing a bell going out, and the sister's just a bit like, oh, for God's sake, she's so demanding. It's like...

she's stuck in the lift she's in a wheelchair give her a hand like no and the lift starts up again just as chucky doll goes

Yeah. That sounded like that kid from The Simpsons, in a way. Her sister is also, this is another reason her sister's like, you need to sell this place, because your heart is not in a good condition as well.

So there's probably more than just paralyzed. Yeah, she's got a really bad heart as well. It absolutely makes sense. And I think Nick has just been fucking stubborn to be like, no, I'm not selling the house, staying there. It's just silly.

They give the doll back to Alice, who's over the moon. Yay, my friend's here. Barb thinks that Nika is...

over exhausted and says that your heart like you said gav your heart is is bad you know you have you taken your medication today yes she is actually looking out for her that's the thing it it's almost trying to come across because she's almost cast

and the way it's coming across as she's cheating on her husband as well it's almost and the way she's cast a little bit not saying that like this actress looks like a bitch

but it comes across more like they're depleting her from the get-go as a bit of a money-grabbing bitch cheats on her husband etc but then she is trying to look out for a sister i think i think there is actually some you know

that there you know and Chucky has a knife concealed on him which we'll find out later on because is that a knife in your pants oh or are you just I don't know slappy to see me um

because whilst nika was in the lift she got cut on the leg and her legs bleeding quite badly but because she's paralyzed from the waist down she can't feel it yeah she didn't know it happened but it's because chucky was in the lift and just sort of oh do you imagine chucky's like

I bet she can't fucking feel this. I'm going to give it... No, you can't feel it. That's hilarious. You know, Chuckie having a laugh to himself.

So she goes off to patch her leg up and they say goodnight to Alice. Now, while Mummy's in with Alice... That also gave her sister another reason to say, look, for fuck's sake, you're just bleeding, you don't know how it happened. You need to be somewhere else.

chucky says well alice says well just like my doll always says uh life's a bitch and then you die chucky says there's no god you know

and she's like what where are you getting this from she's like chucky chucky says all this stuff to me chucky says we're all gonna die someday yeah and the mum's like okay uh

this is a bit weird this is like 45 minutes into the movie and we're at a halfway point but we have as the audience members have not actually seen chucky move really either

and it's really good now Chucky the little girl goes to bed with Chucky and it's under the covers with her and there's this look that this Chucky

particularly it's like the Jason's and the Michael's the different masks each time the different rooms and the Chucky's always had different looks as well at times that kind of look that Chucky has where he's slightly down looking upwards yep He's...

Fucking terrifying. I was just like, shit. There's no animatronics. It's just a doll looking under the covers as well. So they're both under the covers and the way the doll's just looking at her is so creepy. It's miles above that last movie.

Now the phone lines come back on a little bit, so Nika decides, because she's very suspicious about what's going on here, she decides to call the post office and try and find out where this package came from.

And the line's really bad and breaking up. And all she can just about hear is it came from an evidence locker. That was where the parcel that was delivered to them came from. She doesn't know any more than that. Just before this happened, when Chucky was under the...

the covers with the girl the girl says because she's under the covers of chucky because she's got thunderstorms she's like me and you chucky we go under there like a kid but she goes to chucky chucky i'm scared and that he stared at her the whole time he then says you fucking should be and it tops.

that is 45 minutes that's the first time we and you have seen that happen and this girl has now realized that this doll is alive and it cuts at that point then and i was like oh my god this film fucking kicks ass Yeah, because saying that to a little child...

and then it cuts like you don't know what happened is genius editing because that little girl would have been like fuck and you're like does Chucky pounce on her like it's such a good you fucking should be so good

So now Nika speaks to Jill and says, look, I found out where the dolls come from. It's been sent from an evidence locker, which is really weird. And Jill's like, whatever. She goes off and she strips off for bed. Of course she does.

into her bra and pants but that's because she's about to do a cheeky little skype um night night to yeah i guess why don't you just meet up again i suppose because he's asleep

But it's the thrill of the affair, isn't it? I guess. Because Ian's asleep in the bed. Get this. Ian's asleep in the bed and his wife, Barb, is next to him on her laptop getting cheeky little lingerie videos from the woman in the next room.

sex videos for each other, like, you know, sexting or whatever. You were hoping. Yeah. You were hoping. Meanwhile, that says Nika is Googling.

The good guy doll. And she suddenly finds a list of news stories about murders. She sees Andy Barclay. She sees what happened to him at the military camp.

All these sort of stories from over the last few films... Apart from fucking Cedar Chucky, they cut that one out, didn't they? Nothing about Red Man in there. I've got here, suspense build-up, and I think I'm supposed to put suspense build-up everywhere, and it's...

It changed it to suspense build-up underwear. I haven't got any suspense build-up underwear, but it's something I'm going to shop for from now on. Look out, don't buy a haunted bra by mistake. Suspense build-up underwear.

Now, whilst Jill is Skyping Barb, Barb says, oh, I think...

i think alice is awake so i've just seen somebody move behind you this is no this is good just before i do this is really good humor actually and um i was thinking and i didn't see this in a cinema but i can imagine that fright fest for example

or American audiences I know do it as well, very interactive and louder and sort of laugh and clap along and frightfist it as well.

I can imagine here's the point when they're looking at each other and they're not really saying anything. And the woman, the mum's kind of pointing the camera behind her. So I fucking love it. It's such an easy, silly joke. The person she's having an affair with.

nanny just looks back and points back at her as in like a cute thing oh there you go and she's like no you're fucking twat behind you i think the girl's still up you know the kid

But it's not because she saw Chucky move slightly. Does Chucky know what's going on? He probably doesn't even know that there's a video camera. Do you know what I mean? He's probably done. So he's just walking around the back and all of a sudden she's like, what the fuck is that? And it's so well done.

Well, he creeps under Jill's bed while she's still on the laptop. Really good. And then he kicks over a bucket of water that's been collecting the...

the leak from the roof he does come out and she looks around and sees him and he's doing that stare again where his head's down looking up like he was and again it's like you're not even moving and it's so creepy then just with his little foot kicks his bucket over because the house drips sell the fucking house

which of course means final destination Jill gets electrocuted burned up pretty bad and falls down the power goes that out a little bit in the house and they just assume it's because of the electrical storm

And, yeah, meanwhile, don't say it again. Nika sees Charles Lee Ray linked to these Chucky murders. She recognises him from the home movie that they saw earlier. So she's starting to piece things together now.

Chucky then sneaks out onto the landing. Barbara tries to imply that Ian... You obviously like Jill. We don't know what happened with the kid.

and chucky's saying you should be we don't we didn't know we find out well we find out through the nanny cam later on that um she's just been chatting to him because there's a kid with your imagination

You just talked to a girl that talked to you. I guess after that scene cut, because it seemed like it might have been setting up for Chucky to pounce on the killer, I guess it would have been the case of then you fucking should be in a hurricane. Chucky, that's rude. Do you know what I mean?

yeah probably did that yeah all right so like i say we get this little argument now where ian sort of starts to uh barbara tries to imply that ian has got the hots for jill

And he flips it and says, actually, I think it's you. In fact, I know it's you that's got the hots for her. Why else would you be paying her $200 a month? And she's like, how dare you say this sort of thing to me and imply this? And he's like, well...

I put a camera in the doll, so we'll find out, won't we? And she's like, what? Why would you do that? And he's like, well, because I wanted to find out the truth, Barb. So Barbara...

She can't find Alice anywhere, but she does find Chucky. And we get some really great, very John Carpenter's The Thing music. I don't know if you noticed this. Oh, God, yeah. It was basically, the director's like, right, can you watch...

can you just listen to NEMR and Crony's The Thing and just do that and it is literally someone's going okay but at no point do I go oh god I'm like yeah

All right, bring it. Bring it. The score's okay, it is. Now, Nika finds Alice with the doll, and because she's looked up what this doll is and what it can do, she says, put the doll down. Please put it down.

But they sort of argue over the doll, and that's because Barb thinks that... she that nika knows that there's a camera in it and she's she's like you're on his side why would you be on his side she's like what are you talking about and she doesn't know that they're arguing so nika thinks

she needs the doll got rid of because it's a killer and barb thinks we need the doll got rid of because it's got a nanny cam in it and may well have videoed me getting it on with jill yeah so there's this whole like argument

And then the Alice storms off, Nika's trapped downstairs. So she thinks, well, I've got to get upstairs to help everybody out here. So she starts, she gets out of her wheelchair and she starts to drag herself.

sell the house get a fucking one one floored fucking building Jesus Christ Barbara's still searching for her daughter Alice she goes up into the attic

She finds Chucky with a knife on him. She puts the knife down. Chucky picks the knife up. And Barbara then says, hang on a minute, there's something strange with this doll's face.

And she takes...

A little bit of his face off, and then a bit more of his face off. He's pulling rubber off, yes. It's the stitched up version of Chucky, and he's disguised himself. Yeah, it's quite funny. I love the fact that Nika is...

downstairs and to the point where she's been looking at the internet so much that she thinks a doll has come to life that she will crawl up the staircase to get rid of the doll

It is a little bit full-on, isn't it? But don't forget, she did see Charles Lee Ray in a family home movie, so she does think there is a reason for this. Oh, shit. I suppose if you look up a doll which is a serial killer, then that serial killer... Okay, yeah, you could probably go, this is fucking weird as fuck.

but I actually think there's... Yeah, okay, all right, I'm with you. No, well, she's peeling the fake face off of Chucky to reveal his true stitched-up face. There is a fantastic jump scare here. Is it the rock and the horse?

He tries to bite her. He just goes like that. Then he puts a knife to her throat and he says to her, Alice is mine. The girl is mine. And he stabs her in the face. Yeah, stabs her in the eye.

That's right, because Nika's now crawling up the stairs as fast as she can. And what rolls down to her? A nice little juicy eyeball. Rolls down to her.

um she's not what the fuck and then she looks up and she sees her sister barely alive with one eye

Who then collapses down the stairs on top of her. But then a great shot from the stairs looking upwards from Nika kind of laid down or low perspective of the camera looking up at the top of the stairs in silhouette. Chucky just walks into frame and stands there.

yeah this is the first time and she's like this is where she goes oh my god this doll is real and i'm paralyzed on a fucking staircase and there's a fucking killer doll just up there and he says

He walks down slowly towards her. So she...

She manages to get back down, doesn't she? Or she gets off at the floor. I don't know where she goes. She grabs her... She's got a wheelchair on every floor, so she grabs another wheelchair. Right. And she zips off in that. She finds... But as she zips off... You're gone.

No, go on. I was going to say, she finds the guy and wakes him up to say, like, oh, fucking everyone's dead. He's just been asleep in bed.

or whatever and he's like what what do you mean everyone's dead what weird you wake up you'd be like what the fuck are you on woman like what what do you mean everyone's dead he's literally just had an argument with his wife because he knows she's having an affair with the nanny

Then he fell about to sleep. Now he's like, now you're telling me everyone's dead. But they do go in and find Jill's burnt body from being electrocuted.

So he picks up Nika, but yeah, nice slow motion. Very strange choice, but it works. Shot of him walking down the stairs with Nika. It's great scene photography in this, really, isn't it? The scene photographer got a lot better from the last time, that's for sure.

He puts her into her wheelchair and he says, right, let's search for Alice. And while they're searching, Chucky hides. Chucky's hiding. And he says, Nika, I'm going to put you in the garage with the car.

You stay in here where it's safe, and I'll go and try and find Alice. And whatever you do, and Nika says, whatever you do, stay away from that doll, Ian. And Ian's like, what is going on with this family? What have I married into?

But while she's in the garage, Chucky starts up the car. And the fumes start overpowering Nika.

And she's sort of passing out. So she grabs an axe. She smashes the car window. She tries to take the keys, but Chucky swallows the car keys.

and ian bursts back in the room he's like what's what's going on why is the car started why is the window smashed oh my god nika you're trying to kill yourself oh my god oh my god so chucky's slowly making it look like that nika is mad and maybe potentially killed everyone

well essentially this is unfortunately what the result of the film is where they think that she's done it because it does go back to that realisticness of the film having a doll as a killer

Do people believe in dull, killed people? So it's something you can always get away with in these movies. Previous ones, when it was... What's the kid called? Andy. Andy. That's funny. That's so funny, isn't it? Because Toy Story...

Yeah, well, that's the whole thing, isn't it? Yeah, I guess. There's a joke that they make. Yeah. But, like, where they start thinking Andy's involved later on in the other films and stuff like that, you know? So it is ultimately something which is...

Something you can't really get away from and just go, yeah, a doll did it. Okay, just going to write this in my police report. Talking of toys,

The character Barb is named after Barbie in this, but they did a little nod there as well. Did you see the guy who was touring around with Annabelle recently died of a heart attack? I did, yeah. I think he probably just died of a heart attack.

My kids love Annabelle because there's a shop in the centre of Bristol that sells all the memorabilia. And every time I take them out to the soft plane, they're there.

We go past that shop and they go, look, look, there's Chucky, there's Annabelle, there's Pokemon. They sort of name all the characters, but they don't know who Annabelle is because she looks quite...

i intriguing to them you're gonna have great fun uh uh as they get older and they and they get confused i remember it was elijah was it elijah i think it was elijah or daisy i'm not sure you used to get michael jackson and michael mars mixed up

I loved it. Like the serial killer Michael Jackson. Yeah, that's it. They both got very pale white faces. My son is now not a fan of Darth Vader.

Because we've been watching all of the Star Wars films, all nine of them. Then we watched the Han Solo movie. Then we're currently watching Rogue One. And there's that scene where Darth Vader's coming down the corridor, just taking people out, killing them.

And he's like, turn it off, turn it off, turn it off, turn it off. Darth Vader's a bit too scary for me now. So at the moment, he's off Darth Vader. He loves Darth Vader normally, but no, he's not a fan at the moment. Just watch the shit you grew up on the first three. Just do that.

I mean, he's watched them all, but... Nah, just do those. Anyway, Nika's heart starts...

acting up and she starts passing out she says i need i need my adrenaline shot see this is movie so much more crafted stakes are intensely high at this point here it's been bad as it is already but another layer the stakes are high where she needs it

injection she needs an epi pen or whatever the fuck it is to get her back going and the the brother-in-law ian yeah her brother um uh is um is just kind of standing there going

but i think you fucking just killed all these people like i i don't think i want to give you the epipen and it's quite a scene again it's like wow the suspense is so heightened you know it's great

She wakes up later in her wheelchair, tied up. So she didn't die, she passed out. And he puts tape on her mouth. And says, where is my daughter? Because he thinks that she's obviously... put the kid somewhere and she's fucking lost it so he says i'll tell you what i'll do

Let's watch the nanny cam footage. So this is the bit that she's like, that's a fucking cheating bitch. I know she's like, they're both fucking dead, so it doesn't matter now, but fucking cheating bitch. Then Jackie just gets up and walks off. It'd be like, what's going on? Why is the doll moving?

she'd be like i told you well he sees jill he sees himself asleep

obviously it's all being recorded via Chucky and then he sees Alice talking to the door and he's so shocked because at this point he says he sees his daughter saying Chucky you are are you always my friend he's like yeah yeah bitch shut the fuck up he says just keep your

fucking mouth shut so well good it's so good and he's like what the hell and then it cuts to live feed and it's great it cuts to scream 2 no scream 3

And it's behind them. No, Scream 2. Chucky's behind them. Yeah. He pushes the wheelchair. No, Scream 1. Scream 1. He pushes the wheelchair. But Nika's in.

which knocks Ian over, and Chucky walks into the room with an axe. And...

We've not seen this before. He chops Ian's jewel off. He chops down into his mouth. It's fucking gnarly. The bottom of his jewel is chopped off. Wow. And then he turns around and he goes, you're a tunica. But the wheelchair stops the axe because it...

for whatever reason just no no it's her leg it goes into her leg oh fuck and she says to him is that supposed to hurt

Because I can't feel anything from the waist down. It's going to do. If it hits your fire, you're going to bleed out and die in like 10 minutes. Well, of course, she's bleeding quite heavily, but she doesn't feel it. That's the main thing. She managed to knock Chucky's head off. She knocks his head clean off.

And she goes off to put bandages on her legs. Brilliant this now. While she's there bandaging her leg up, the headless corpse of Chucky sort of stands up behind her, walks over to the head.

puts it on backwards and then it spins around and looks at her like the exorcist and it's back and this time he pushes her wheelchair right over the banister.

all the way down onto the floor. Push through it, yeah. And there's blood coming out of her leg. She's rolling around in her own blood. But she's still alive, just about. And...

He reveals to her that after her... He gives a whole backstory now. After her dad drowned, he basically got chummy with her mum. He was obsessed with her. But being Charles Lee Ray and being a serial killer...

and she didn't love him, he tied her up, brought her flowers, and tried to pretend he was the dad of the family. He said, I'm going to go pick up Barb from school soon. Meanwhile, she's pregnant with Nika, obviously.

And then he hears sirens coming outside Charles Lee Ray and he says, you bitch, you called the Caps. Nobody fucking leaves me. And he puts the knife to her pregnant stomach. And obviously they don't show it.

outside of the house we hear a scream um and yeah it turns out he stabbed her and yeah so essentially he she's like you know you got the cops on me um

He's like, you've got to call me in his own way. It's her reason he's dead is because of her mum.

So he's got vengeance still for this. This is why he's still like, right, that's it. I'm going to get out the fucking door, I guess. Yeah, because he then runs off into the toy shop right from the beginning of the first movie and obviously dies.

and puts his spirit into the the doll so that is the whole like tie-in to child's play one so it's almost if you i know it sort of does flash back to the other films but you probably don't need to say no even know that you could probably watch the original child's play

then watch this film yeah it's almost like um an h20 i would say it's very much trying to do that sort of thing yeah um so it turns out it was all revenge on

on nika and barb's mum and then he starts listing all the other families that he's killed off including and then he says you know what you kind of remind me of andy barkley he was a whiny little bitch too so which is a great line

says like he says what you waiting for god or something that's really weird and then the electric turns on so is that god Well, she says, well, you've got something called completion anxiety there, Chucky.

um where you can't quite finish if you know what i mean so she kind of makes it sexual to get under his skin and she says um you've waited all this time you're the slowest serial killer ever you've waited 20 odd years to come back and get me

What are you waiting for? A sign from God? Okay, yeah. And then she says that, and then, yeah, the power turns back on. So is God letting the power back on? That's what it's referring to, slightly.

It's a bit weird, but anyway. She crawls into the lift and she's dripping with blood, obviously. He gets close to the lift but he slips on the blood that she's pouring out of her leg.

He manages to slice her fingers. It looks very painful through the bars of the lift. They have a bit of a tussle. She stabs him in the back. And the cops arrive.

and they walk in to find Nika screaming in the lift. She's covered in blood. There's dead bodies all over the house. She's holding a knife. And there's a Chucky doll just sitting in the corner grinning.

So to them they're thinking, well this girl in a wheelchair has clearly turned into a maniac and has slaughtered her entire family after her mother's death.

So she's locked up in an asylum for the criminal insane. She's in court and they're presenting all the evidence, you know, and this rat poison proves that it, you know, she... poisoned the priest and killed him here's all the knives and various instruments that they were all killed with

and then they say right yeah well looks like you're going to be locked up for life and as she is wheeled out of the courtroom she turns around in front of all the public and says to the chucky doll

ah i'm still alive chucky i'm still a fucking life clearly making herself look even more mad than they think she is but

The cop has got a bit of a hunch that something's not quite right here. The cop from earlier who knew the priest.

So he takes the Chucky doll off in his car. Well, it's not because he takes the doll because he got a hunch. He's been paid to take the doll by a certain party we will discover in a moment. That's right. He gets in his car with the Chucky doll in the evidence bag. Makes a phone call.

I've got what you asked for. It's here in the bag next to me. And then he sees the bag breathing. He thinks, what the fuck? And then Jennifer Tilly jumps up behind him and cuts his throat.

And she says, who's next? I really dislike this. Why? Is this now pushing us back to the movies just before? Have you seen the next one? I don't think I've seen it. Okay.

Yeah, it leads all into that. But it just seemed really, really forced to throw. Jennifer Tilly, who's came into it later on, is known for Chucky and stuff. But it's a bit like, hang on, you had this so good from the first thing going to that. I think it spoils it.

I agree with you. We could have done without this. You don't need fucking Jennifer Tilly and her big tits just turning up. It's not needed. I mean, you always do. So Jennifer Tilly then is in her post office sending a pass or...

And obviously she's sending this parcel, which is a Chucky doll. And she sends it to Alice. So who was the cop speaking to? Jennifer Tilly, I guess. How? I don't know. He would have been like, hang on, I can hear you in the car.

You're behind me. I rang your phone and I can hear it ringing behind me. It's really... Take this scene out. Well, then we see little Alice.

who's now living with her other grandma who hasn't been killed you know what you do that scene the cop gets in the car makes the phone call pulls out drives away end that's all you've got to do and um

The little girl gets home and is saying, Grandma, Grandma, where are you? And then she sees a package and it's, Chucky, you found me. She opens it and she says, do you know where Grandma is? She's in the basement. Don't worry about it.

Obviously she's dead. And he says, I've come here to play.

hide the soul with you thank god thank god and she says oh you always want to play hide the soul with me and he's like yeah let's play it this time we're going to finish the game and he starts to chant

And then we get a random jump scare of the grandma with a plastic bag on her face right up at the camera. He's suffocating her in the basement. There's two forces ending.

Chucky wins. It does lose a point for the ending. It really does. Just cut it then. The cop goes out. That's how I'm going to rethink this movie. The cop goes, I've got the doll. Reverses out, drives away. Movie ends.

I've given this film a 6 out of 10, which is great.

It would have, however, if it had taken the Jennifer Tilly stuff out of it, and it was just a standalone Chucky movie that had some loose ties, this probably would have got a 7 out of 10, which is quite high. Yeah.

But I do have to shave off the last 10 minutes to drop it a point. I'm amazed that you're with me on that. It seems so like, what the fuck? Why do we need her in it? Like, come on. But...

It does all tie into the follow-up, which we'll be covering at some point in the future. Well, I look forward to that because I don't think I've seen it for whatever reason. And that's got Fiona Durif in...

in a mental at home um you know chucky doll trying to get her but there's multiple chuckies in it so yeah but we'll be covering that in the future but look i do do still give this a thumbs up because

and you'll agree with me on this, it is a return to real horror suspense. It's a return to horror. Absolutely. You know, the first two...

chucky movies and even the third one were quite scary still scary films the fourth one was a comedy the fifth one fuck knows what seed was this one takes it right back to those horror roots um

And I love it for that. And I love the whole idea of the girl in the wheelchair and in this house and she's trapped in this one place and there's only five or six cast members.

Yeah, it's just a shame by Jennifer Tilly turning up at the end. Great movie. I definitely recommend. I like the poster for the... Well, I definitely like the poster for everyone, but I like the fact that they've got Chucky real close up holding a knife slightly at an angle.

some white text at the top so actually if you look because i'm short side angle my glasses on it looks it's a seven oh it is yeah very good sneaky i didn't think about that it's amazing being short-sighted sometimes the stuff that you can work out go oh yeah

So, yeah, we'll wrap up the Chucky franchise in the future with Cult of Chucky and the remake, Child's Play. Yeah, so that's next, is it? And that'll be wrap-up. I'll try my best to get a hold of the TV show.

I occasionally see it for sale, and I occasionally thought of picking it up. I'll see if I can go and watch it before we do that, so I've watched it as well to give you my feedback. I believe there's two seasons of it. They may still be continuing to make it, I'm not sure, because it's quite recent.

I don't know. But there we go. But yeah, definitely a thumbs up. This one is leaps and bounds ahead of Seed, which is definitely the worst in the franchise, in my opinion, and your opinion as well. Yeah.

There we go. These are polar opposite films.

I would say check it out even if you're like, I've only seen the first Charles Pope ever. Yeah, fucking jump on this. It's alright. I saw this one on the Horror Channel years ago. They had an exclusive.

Did you? Yeah. Yeah. I saw it on the horror channel. It was just like exclusive premiere of that. And it'd only been out for a year. And I was like, oh, cool. I haven't seen it. And I was riveted. Loved it. It's a good film. Yeah.

So there we go. So he's an icon in horror. He's Chucky. He wants to play. Like Bill Murray. Let's go away now and come back for a little bit of an outro. Let's do it.

And we're back again. Back again. Thanks very much. Goodbye and thank you. Goodbye and thank you. Thank you so much for coming along and listening to us. If you got this far, well done. Congratulations. And do check out that latter film.

That's the first one we covered up. So that was episode 181. 181 is not a score you can get in darts. So let's talk about what's coming up next.

Yeah, tell me, man. Rub it all over me like butter. Like butter.

We haven't mentioned P. Diddy this whole episode, thankfully. Well, P. Diddy's not news now. The news now is fucking Trump going, I was not on a Jeffrey Epstein list. There's no list. It's nonsense. And that's what's going on now.

Did you see him cheating at golf, talking to Bobby Gilmore too? No, I heard. I can't. The thing is, every day I open up, because what I've kind of done now, I've got rid of a lot of social media. I've deleted Facebook off my phone at the moment. I'm not really looking at most things.

but i like to do youtube and i like to just see the different news outlets what their videos on the cage you watch stuff but it's just trump continuously everything it's not my algorithm he's just all over the fucking news because that's what he loves so what's he done is he's cheating at golf

in the uk in scotland at the moment playing golf and there's a video of him pulling up in the golf cart to take a shot and his ball's in the rough in the sand i think but his caddy gets out ahead of him and just sneakily drops a little ball

Did they see it? And it's videoed. Yeah, everyone's videoed it and saying he's cheating. And he's like, oh, I'm not cheating at golf. What are you talking about? But you see the caddy drop the ball. Of course he is. You know. And so it's a witch hunt.

You know what I'm saying? Are you saying I'm cheating at golf? It's a witch hunt. I tell you what, Obama cheated at golf. He's the first one to cheat at golf, not me. It's a witch hunt. They're lies. It's all lies.

Everything it says is nonsense. It's hilarious. But it did make me think of Abby Gilmore when I saw it. I thought, well, that's hilarious. But coming up next...

Episode 182 is a p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p

So it's a nice little landmark for her. Sheila! I'm trying to do that Australian thing there. Sheila! It's a very Australian name, but she is American. But Sheila has picked, as mentioned previously, she's picked...

The Ninth Gate from 1999. Oh, shit. That means I'm watching it this weekend with Sarah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good one, that one. And The Pope's Exorcist from 2023. Yeah.

So that'll be really, really cool to cover those two. After that, episode 183 is wrapping up the summer with a summer blockbuster special. A couple of movies by Roland Emmerich.

Godzilla from 1998, which you and I both really like. 97. 98. Oh, was it? Oh, I'm wrong. Sorry. And earlier than that, Independence Day from 1996.

Sweet. So he had a couple of good money-making blockbusters for the summer. He was the king of the summer blockbuster. When Will Smith was still likeable.

yeah and jeff goldblum's in that one too and a few other people so yeah independence day and godzilla from roland emmerich and after that as the summer comes to an end and the leaves start to turn a bit browner and the cooler

weather comes in yeah to get us in the mood for spooky season episode 184 is going to be ghost watch from 1992 that's so cool and late night with the devil from 2023 that's a good old double bill i'll tell you yeah it's gonna be good it's gonna be all about real life

I say real life, real life, almost found footage type shenanigans. Yeah, we can talk about a few notable found footage movies as we go. Yeah.

Well, we like our phone footage. And I guess Late Night with the Devil is phone footage. And I guess Ghostwatch is as well. They really are, really, aren't they? The fans class them, has it? Yeah. Yeah. So...

And Ghostwatch is one that I know a lot of our listeners on Facebook and a lot of our Facebook followers have really been excited for us to cover at some point. Yeah. So that'll be really cool. And it's strange because I...

It's really gone worldwide over the last 10 years as people have discovered it.

generally quite uh not not terrifying but at the time if you'd never seen it it was just like i don't know it's we're not getting to now because it's a whole thing but i remember watching it live on halloween and i was gutted my friend went turn it off i don't want to watch it

fucking worse and i had to turn it off so i missed it because i couldn't record it and this was before the internet so i was 15 right yeah so i was watching it on halloween night uh when i was 15 yeah my mate's like turn it off and i was like oh

Everybody at school was talking about it the next day. I didn't fucking know what happened until years later. Well, it's available to stream on Prime now. What a fucking worse.

So that's what's coming up in our next three episodes. We've got Sheila's patrons picks. We've got Godzilla and Independence Day. And we've got Ghostwatch and Late Night with the Devil. So some good stuff. I remember being in San Francisco with him. There was loads of us.

a lot of us skaters and some norwegian skaters and some other english skaters we'd met and we all just start fucking hanging we heard there's a party down in north beach or something or somewhere on the beach kegs like proper you know one of those sort of parties

yeah i'm about to get on the bus and we're just trying to get a we go on the bus and turn around you're just standing there and he's too scared to get on the bus so he went back to the hotel room right okay we went we went and parted on the beach but the keg was empty i was gutted

Anyway, that was that. He was scared a lot. Sounds like me. So...

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Well, that's it, Gav. That is the episode in the can. In the can. All wrapped up. Yep. So it's time for us to say goodnight. You definitely got, well, it's goodnight from Chucky, that's for sure. And you definitely have to look under the bed for any creepy Chucky's.

It's a good, good night from Jennifer Tilly. It's a good night from this one and it's a good night from that one. It's a good night from Redman who replaced Quentin Tarantino. It's a good night from Mr. Man.

And it's a good night from Dan. And it's a good night from Mr. Gav, man. Good night, everybody. Good night, everybody. Stay safe. And don't forget, we'll be your friends to the end. Hidey-yo!

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