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I think Dean Eisner would like to hear of this.

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Hello and welcome to hello. This is the Doom Show. I am Richard.

Folks, before I introduce my co hosts right now,

put up a content warning. This is one of those movies that's

painful. Emotionally, it's painful.

The splatter, the gore is really unpleasant.

The sexual stuff,

really, really uncomfortable to even think about much. Let's talk

about. And also it's just gut wrenching

talking about Ari Asters. Zombie High.

Simon, welcome to the show.

Hello, folks. Zombie high from 1987

is compared to how new horror movies are.

This quaint as shit. This is like a quaint quaint that ever quainted

a quaint. Yeah, it's the taint of quaint.

Hello. This is

from director Ron Link, who did nothing.

This was. This was his gateway into the world of directing. And then

he said, no, I just. Had a David lynch man.

We're going to talk about David lynch by proxy. I mean, when do we know

when you've got me on the show, of course. But the word

link reminds me of sausage. I think that's a Gordon.

Well, he says linkage. It's a Gordon Cole line, I think from two weeks.

Oh, nice. See, I need to watch more shit.

I need to get back to it. Although apparently Ron Link was

one of Andy Warhol's pals back in the 60s.

He. Unless it's a different Ron link,

IMDb credits him as being in Batman, Dracula from 1964,

which is very interesting. But this was written by Tim

Doyle, who would go on to write a bunch of TV stuff. He was a

very prolific comedy TV writer. It's also

written by Aziz Gahal. Excuse me, Aziz Ghazal,

who is apparently an infamous character in his own

mind. We'll talk a little bit about him. And then

someone named Elizabeth Passarelli, who I think was kind of like his

cohort. Yeah, she didn't really do much more.

But here is the. Here's the lovely trailer

for this movie which will tell you, you know, the whole plot.

So spoiler warning. We're gonna spoil this whole movie. The plot's stupid.

Don't worry about it. But just in case, spoiler warning.

Here's the trailer. It's Zombie High with Drop

Dead guys. You said you hated this. Well,

I've changed my mind. Brainless. You think

you could heat it up a little bit?

You could have had a nasty little accident. You could

have been killed. And teachers who make an everlasting

impression. You live forever and the students get lobotomized.

He's a total droid, brain dead.

We've got the opportunity here to have some serious fun.

Bad to scream. Did you hear something?

Zombie High where the teachers and the students

never die. Yeah,

man. I love just the whole movie laid out for you in

like a minute and 15 seconds or however long that trailer is.

Oh, it's brilliant. And it just. It kind of sums up, you know,

in that very condensed form just how. And I say this with the greatest

affection, just how kind of slightly confused this

film is. Yes, yes, very confused.

Speaking of confusing, I have a copy of a

virtual copy of the VHS tape. This is

the Cinema Group home video, which. That's a

new one on me. I would love to know what else

Cinema Group home video put out. Oh, man. I wonder if

they're logo. I wonder if they have a sexy logo. I have to look that

up. Cinema Group Home Video.

I'm not really recognizing. Oh my God. Never mind.

These put out the Slayer. Oh,

wow. Beautiful.

They put out a home invasion movie called Possession that

I've been curious about. They put out some

things, but anyway got distracted there.

Here's the wonderful VHS tape from them.

Here's the plot synopsis. Virginia Madsen of Slam

Dance, Electric Dreams, Fire With Fire and Richard

Cox of the Bronx Zoo in Cruisin star

in this humorous thriller about the bizarre happenings that occur

in a prestigious boarding school. It seems the upperclassmen act

like robots. They're the perfect students.

Dedicated, involved and loyal. Clothes are perfectly pressed

and hair is meticulously combed. It seems that the teachers have something to

do with their ingratiating behavior. But the question is what?

Madsen plays Andrea Miller. She's the new

kid in school and the object of one of the teachers affections.

When she sees her friends turning into clones, Andrea starts suspecting

the worst. In a madcap and frightening series of events,

she gets closer and closer to the secret behind the strangeness.

Zombie High as a superior thriller with a hot soundtrack.

Kiss my butt. Action. Action aplenty. And lots

of laughs. Lol. O L O L O L O.

Lol. Why is this rated R? I have no idea why this was rated

R. It says when the going gets

preppy, the preppy turn into zombies. Oh my God.

On the front. I don't think this is from

maybe A because it says top left corner. Now available on video

cassettes. I'm Guessing this is the theatrical poster.

Yeah, they were again really struggling for pull quotes apparently because there's two at

top from the New York Post that just says entertaining.

And my favorite which is from Variety below. Don't you just see

this? Virginia Madsen's fresh performance is accompanied by James

Wilder's nice turn as her boyfriend. Isn't that

nice? Yeah, his nice turn. Oh,

hey, how much is that poster on ebay? I'm curious. Yeah,

folks, this is real typing here. Hope you're watching on your cams,

your sex cams and your only fans,

your only cams. Oh man, you can get a zombie high poster

for cheap. Oh boy. There's also the

German poster. That's awesome. Oh my God.

Check this out. Dude on a stick.

I will chat you this. You saw it?

Oh man. Yeah, that almost. Speaking of David lynch, it almost reminds me

like of that really creepy one for Blue Velvet.

Oh, the Italian poster, I think. Oh yeah, Italian. Yeah, that's it.

Oh man. So a little bit of these cast members

here to set us up. We've got Virginia

Madsen. Holy shit, man.

I of course have had a crush on her since I first saw her

in Candyman back in the day.

My mom bought me a ticket for Candyman to

drop me off of the theater for a while. I was like 13

maybe. Yeah, amazing, Amazing. Oh man, I'm jealous.

She's our 26 year old high school student.

So this is not a zombie high school. This is a zombie

prep school before college. Yeah, but Zombie

Prep school I think is not a catchy title. But these are supposed to be

young people coming out of high school, getting ready for college.

And hot damn, I never noticed this.

Like I'll be watching a slasher with friends and they'll be like,

are these supposed to be high schoolers?

But when they drop off, when her boyfriend drops her off

at school, I thought she was supposed to be a teacher.

I'm like, why is she rooming with the. Oh,

she's supposed to be like 18. Okay,

okay. But yeah, I don't normally comment on that kind of stuff.

Anyway, she plays Andrea. She's one of the like

handful of girls. This school has never had girls in it before.

This is the first wave of Ladies. Her boyfriend,

the fresh faced under the wonderful turn by

him or whatever they said is James Wilder plays

Barry. Barry brings the Beverly Hills 90210

angst to the movie. He's very much the most annoying fucking

boyfriend ever. But yeah, he did

some TV movie stuff.

Sorry. The first thing that comes up that he's known for. Wow.

This title from 2014.

Three, three holes and a smoking

gun. Wowie. Wow. Wow. Hang on a minute. You missed a bit.

Unless he's coming up differently here. What do you got? You missed the most important

bit. Three holes, two brads and a smoking gun.

What the fuck? No, it doesn't. No. What? I had

to click on it to see. Yes. Right, okay. Three holes,

two brads and a smoking gun. I wish it had

colon a love story after it.

Wow. Can you imagine? Two brads. Oh, man,

I can barely handle one. That's wild.

That's James Wild or what else was he in?

Oh, God.

He was in Can't Stop the music from 1980,

the Village People movie. He was a sword juggler.

He was a sword juggler. Take that

a euphemism.

It is now. Oh, boy. But he's in something

the same year as this called Night Force.

And it looks like an action movie, but the poster is awesome.

It looks so good. Wow. Linda Blair.

Richard Lynch. Wow. What the. Let me guess. Richard lynch

is not a good guy. Cameron Mitchell. Okay,

okay, I'll watch it. Yep. I mean, you had me at Richard lynch,

but all the screenshots look amazing.

Yeah. Holy crap. Holy crap. Yes. Coming soon.

Simon and I talking. We'll talk about some action. But yeah,

so he's in it. He's fine.

The other side of this triangle, the other point of this triangle of love

is Dr. Philo, played by Richard Cox,

who I love how he was in Cruisin, which I have not seen in

years. I've never seen it. Oh, it's so good. It's like.

It's like fantastic freaking movie. It's scary and it's

like sweaty and like.

It's wild. It's way ahead of its

time, I think. Just way, way ahead of its time. I've just seen.

Yeah, no, to get on that I've just seen he was in an episode of

the X Files and I wonder if I've seen it as it was somebody else.

Which people will come to is in a much earlier episode.

But this is from 2000, so it's possible I've not seen this one yet because

I think that's where I'm up to now. Sounds about series

eight era. Nice. Oh, no,

series seven, episode 18, brand X, which was kind of a anti

smoking or something to do with the tobacco industry, as I recall, which was

kind of. Okay. Speaking of X Files,

the dean of the school is a school is

K E Cooter. I hope that's how

you pronounce his name. He plays Dean Eisner. He was

also in an episode of X files in a 1995 episode.

Yeah, yeah. Kind of remember that one? The Calisari. I think that's very good.

Yeah. Creepy one. But this dude. 141 credits.

So he was. He was just in everything.

Oh, he was in Warlock with Julian Sands.

I wonder if that's with a thumbnail of him like falling into a pit or

something where it's a very strange thumbnail that they pick for

him where he's just like. He's just died and he's falling into some

kind of abyss dressed as a fucking wizard. Maybe it is why he is.

Oh, it says it's from a Star Trek Deep Space Nine episode.

Right, of course. There you go. But my mind. What a little. Sorry, go.

I was going to say what a little cooter. My mind was

absolutely blown though, when I saw a couple of his. He did some voice acting

credits for video games in the 90s and I was quite a fan of.

And I've actually been replaying some of these kind of nostalgia.

And they do hold up wonderfully. The lucasarts point

and click adventure games. Specifically, he was in the Curse

of Monkey island and I've heard of that. I never

played that. It looks awesome. They're both wonderful. Yeah. Next up,

we've got some of Andrea's pals here.

The incomparable Sherilyn Fenn. She plays Susie,

our Twin Peaks alumnus here. I almost ordered a movie

with her. Meridian. Oh, speaking. We were talking about Charles

Bowen before, weren't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Apparently they saw the scene in

Bram Stoker's Dracula where, you know, Dracula in wolfman mode

is having sex with Lucy

and they're like, well, we need to make a whole movie of that. So they

did. Fantastic. We have Paul

Fague. I think it's Paul Feig. I'm not sure. Yeah, I think that's right.

He plays Emerson. Paul Feig is a big time

comedic actor turned director and producer.

He's the dude who directed Bridesmaids. So,

like, it, like made his career. Like, I mean, I'm sure he was probably doing

somewhat well before then, but that was like Bridesmaids was the biggest thing

ever, apparently. Something that was mentioned on the commentary

that was recommended. They did like kind of a thriller. I think. I forget what

it's called now. Oh, was this him in an acting role?

No, it's something he directed. I think it's a simple favor from 2018.

Okay. With Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively.

I think this was the one that's mentioned. But yeah, the people who did the

commentary. Nathaniel Thompson of Mondo Digital, I think he recommended it.

Nice. The movie that he was

in after this he has a very small part,

3 o'clock high, which is a great 80s movie.

Highly recommended. 3 o'clock high. But he plays a hall

monitor so he doesn't even have a character. But he's the comic relief in

this movie. He's very fun. Speaking of Angst,

Mr. Angst, Scott Coffey plays Mr.

Fellner. I believe his father calls him John

at one point as he gets dropped off at the school.

But yes, he's our spiky haired angry dude.

He looks sort of familiar. Yeah, I don't know.

He's one of you know, David Lynch's kind of stock company I suppose

like because he's okay. Yeah, he's probably the one

he has most screen time in. He's in Mulholland Drive.

But he is also in some shouldn't know this off

top of my head. I'm just. My brain just format today.

Oh, he's in Rabbits. Oh yeah. You wouldn't obviously see him,

right? Lost Highway. I'm trying to. Oh, maybe he's one of Balthasar

Getty's friends in that but I just didn't. Sure, sure.

Oh wow. He was in Warrior of the Lost World. He was

in she. Wow. He's been kicking around for a

while doing stuff. That's hilarious. But what might explain

some of this. Did you see under the casting credits

on this film a certain name pop up? Was it.

Was it what's her face the. You tell me. I can't remember.

It's at first because I had a feeling about this. I thought it might have

been Joanna Rae who was, you know one of the. Probably the most

famous I think casting directors that's been out there. Yeah. I think if

memory serves anyways, Eric De Ray, who I think is her

son. Okay. Someone have to look. But yeah, he's one of the

casting people on Zombie High. Which might explain all these curious

linkages. Again, speaking of sus. Right, right. The other pal of

Andrea is Mary Beth. She's played by Claire Carey.

She's the southern gal but she's a

big time. Like on every TV show she

would do a one and done. But she had a show in

2006 that she was on quite a few episodes

of. Oh, she was in Waxwork as well. Oh shit.

Really? Yeah, apparently I can't remember. Speaking of

movies, you And I need to talk about. Yeah, definitely. She was on a show

called Jericho for like most of it. I think

it's a post apocalyptic show. But yeah, I didn't even see that.

She was in Waxwork. That's awesome. I love that movie.

That movie has. I mean it's supposed to be weird, but you know,

in the Waxwork itself. But even that's weirder than you expect.

Yeah. And then the whole setup with the high schoolers, it's strange.

Strange setup for a very interesting movie. So yeah,

we're gonna jump into this plot. Unless you have somebody else in the cast you

wanted to highlight. Let me just have a quick look. Sure,

sure. No, I think that's it. You covered

it all. So the movie opens up with the photograph

credits. So this is California. This is very much a

movie shot in California. But they're trying to convince us is a New England

frickin prep school here.

So they use some helicopter shots, but only the

freeze frames of which of some New England

places. Very fun. So you get the nice fall vibe.

Even though it's. You know. Do they even have fall in California?

You know, John Carpenter struggled to find those leaves for Halloween.

Over this we get a vague conversation. One thing about this movie is the

sound mix is not the best. So fire up them

subtitles folks, because this is. This is one of those ones where I

really think it's the source material. They just didn't mix the sound.

So hot. But this is supposed to be Barry

and Andrea kind of like not mean or angry

bickering, but kind of bickering over her going to this prep school.

We get a nice campus tour where we get to see some fun jokes.

Like the couple reading the newspaper, having the meat cute

and you know, a bunch of preppy people and just. It's just

80s as hell. All the music, all the, what do you call it,

the needle drops in this are just so incredible.

No famous songs. Well, you know,

like not quite Z

grade but like you like these are not top. This would never even like

make the top 100 and even near it top 5,000.

And then my car shows up. Back in the 90s,

my parents took pity on me and got me a car because I was complaining

so much. They got me a 1976 Ford

Granada, which is what Barry drives. I don't know if it's 76,

but it's pretty damn close. It looks just like my car.

And it's smoking. It's a piece of. And he drives right

up onto the lawn to drop her Off.

Oh, my God. Kind of like. I don't know, made me think of,

like, fucking Animal House or something. Just like other sort of Crash

Land there for some reason. Exactly. Right when she

shows up and he's struggling to get in his car from, I don't know,

Catching on Fire or whatever he's doing, she meets

this dream boat, this total dream boat, Dr. Philo.

This guy has no chill whatsoever. He just starts flirting with this girl

right in front of her boyfriend. Not great. We'll find out later why

he likes to flirt. And then next thing you know, we're meeting our jokester,

Emerson, running around goofing. No one's laughing at his jokes.

His roommate is really boring. Calls him a.

Calls him a drone later. Or a Droid or something like that. A brainless droid.

He makes a Ralph Lauren joke. He says he's personal friends with Ralph Lauren,

and just to hammer that joke home, Paul Feig, they gave him

a little horse laugh on the soundtrack. Ah, yes. I'm personal friends

with Ralph Lauren. We're like this. In case

you're wondering where this movie's. Going, and this is before,

because it gets a bit wacky. It's just before they start doing. Going through all

the Adobe Premiere Board of Wipes or whatever.

Or whatever they would have. Oh, my God. Yeah. So the.

All of the. Almost all the cuts in this movie. Thank God it's not all

of them. That'd be a little annoying. But when they're cutting from a scene to

a scene, they use this, like, weird sound

effect and then they go, like, do this really harsh cut,

which reminded me of. It's not as extreme, but it

reminded me of the cuts in Streets of Fire, which.

Have you seen Streets of Fire? No, I don't think I have.

I think you will fucking love it. Oh,

we've taught. Yeah. Again, 1984. So obviously I have to. And this

year I will do that. It is. It is one of the most unique

combinations of genres. It's awesome. Wow. And it has

these cuts that feel like they were

done with, like, a claw hammer. Just, like, crazy. So cool.

Wait a minute. Sorry. What the hell's going on here? So looking

at the release day, this is when you Google it, it says release date,

1st of January, 1 AD. UK.

Huh. Wow. So you guys got

a premiere. An early premiere, to say the least.

Yeah. 1983 years early. What the

fuck? Makes no sense at all.

What? That doesn't make any sense. But. No, I need. That sounds amazing. I need

to check that out. Next thing you know, we get. We get our bad

boy introduced. Mr. Felner gets

thrown out of a limo by his parents. This is so good

old father, he's a senator's son. Unhappy family,

this is his last chance. Blah, blah, blah. We get to go to a

little introductory ceremony. Yeah.

Given a little speech given by the. The dean of the school,

Simon. What happened in this freaking amazing scene?

Well, he's given his. I don't know what you call it,

like a commencement speech. That's completely wrong. That's like. I don't know

what they do when you graduate or whatever, but he's. Is it kind of.

I'm thinking back to Friday the 13th part two. He does his. One of

the jokes from there calls the Keep our shit together speech. I suppose

of, you know, you represent the traditions of yada,

yada, yada, so on and so forth and welcoming the, you know, the ladies

there, who I believe they're the first lot to arrive there.

But the important part of this scene anyway is when he has his Dead

Poets Society moment and imparts

the school motto, Carpe Diem. Seize the day.

And then all these people behind get up and basically

sing Seize the day. Cue all the new.

Yeah, he like holds his hand up to his ear

like fucking, oh God, calm down a bit. And all

the newbies just, basically just can't and just completely lose their shit

because it's fucking hilarious. What I love about this

is that Carpe diem is the most generic bullshit

ever. Like it is. How many thousands of schools have

that as their frickin motto? It's so dumb. Like the writers

could have made it something cryptic, but nah,

nah, we didn't. We didn't put that much thought into it. I wish he'd said

carpe diem, baby. But that's a bit early for. I'm looking now that

10 years later Metallica song on one of the.

Is it one of the Loads, as they're affectionately referred to? I think.

Yeah. Reload one of the loads.

Oh, I always think of Carpe Canem from

the Critic, where he's running down the street, Carpe canum.

Carpe canum. Sees the dog. Sees the dog. And he picks up a dog

and he looks at it and goes, that can't be right. That can't be right.

He puts the dog down and keeps going. Oh, brilliant. It's awesome.

Around this time, Andrea meets her kooky roommates,

Susie and Mary Beth. It's very fun. They play a song that is

crazy and insane. The lyrics are just so

dumb. It's so. Oh my God. This happen jam.

I think today I've probably close this. No, I haven't. Do we think it's the

one that's probably called on here? Let's go crazy. Probably,

yes. Incidentally, not the one that everyone might be thinking of.

It is not. Yes, it is not the Prince Jammer, which is like one of

the greatest freaking songs ever. Definitely. Yeah. Oh my

God. But yeah, I just. I wish we had like 10 movies of

Virginia Madison and Sheryl and Fender's roommates. I mean, this is what I was

made aware of this movie by. I can see on my shelf somewhere a zombie

movie book called the Book of the Dead where I think maybe in the.

There's like a review section at the back and I was just reading like them

as roommates. I thought, hold on, wait, what? Where has this movie been all my

life? And I was luckily able to find it on our satellite TV

service as a rental. So I, you know, instantly sort of bittered that.

But yeah. Oh, did you spy? There's a poster I think seeing behind

Sherrilyn Fenn at one moment on the wall. Did you see this? I think it's

maybe meant to be a film poster. No. What was it? It says I slept

with a zombie. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. You did not catch that.

That's awesome. Good on the art department there. Let's go crazy,

let's go insane. Let's get crazy,

let's cr.

All these songs are pretty much by the same guy, the same duo.

Yeah. Kent Richards and Tim Rocco. But yeah.

Yes. And sure enough, it's called let's go Crazy.

You nailed it. Susie and Andrea are so excited to

have met, but Susie's really excited to have access

to all these boys and how there's so few girls on the campus. Very funny.

And while they're out walking at night, they spot a total dreamboat

in the window. And sure enough, it's this. We don't know he's a professor

yet, but it's good old Dr. Philo. And then we

go to my favorite scene in the movie, which is the Emerson

is goofing off with Andrea in line at the lunch office.

The lunch line. They're being given some very crappy looking

food. She doesn't want any potatoes. And the

person dishing out the potatoes does not pay attention to her, gives her extra

potatoes, like a disgusting amount of mashed potatoes.

And Emerson tells this person in London in

line, if you give me potatoes, I will murder your entire family.

And then they get out of line. And then the right behind them is this

preppy guy who goes, I'll have a double order

of potatoes. Oh dear.

Just mention what's in that ship. I was

laughing so hard.

That's just so stupid. It's nothing to

do with anything. I just love it so much. Fantastic potatoes.

Did one of them, maybe Emerson, does he make some comment about Close Encounters?

I can't remember. Or maybe my brain was going.

Sorry. No, it's okay. I'm thinking, I'm laughing so hard,

I'm sweating. And now I'm thinking, this is probably

because I'm subscribed to about a million Lord of the Rings meme groups. And now,

yeah, whenever I hear the word potatoes, I can't help

but think of Sean Astin. Say potatoes.

Boil them, mash them, stick them in a stew.

Oh, my God. All right, so we get to see inside good

old Dr. Philo's. His pad. His.

His music video pad that he lives in.

Yeah. What does he. What does he say?

Or what is he doing in there? So, yeah, he's got. Aside from all the

neon and like you say, he's a very like. Yeah. Music video

look, as a lot of this film is like the lighting and stuff,

it's kind of throughout. But yeah, he's got. So he's got like a big.

I don't know, like a plinth or something. He's got a big crystal, which then

imagine the sort of, you know, waxing lyrical about.

But yeah, maybe the. His show, you know, aside from that is

just from its sheer size, I suppose. His main showpiece.

Point of interest in there, he's got. Do you call it a pin screen?

Is that what they call him? Yes. No, he's got like basically a human,

which he. As they riff on in the trailer. Lovely trailer,

we've heard he. What does he do? Makes a lasting impression.

Oh, yeah, earlier he has a photograph, an old timey photograph.

He's looking at an old timey photo of him and somebody who looks very

like Andre because, well, you know, it is obviously Virginia

person. And this blew my mind when I noticed it because it

calls forward, you know, like by like five years to Candyman. You know,

it's kind of. It was always you, Helen, sort of moment. Yes.

It's just so great, man. I frickin Candyman.

That was a moment. That was a moment that was probably one of the movies

responsible for my frickin love of horror. Yeah,

me too, man. Definitely. So good. But he comes on too strong

and she's like, I gotta go. Yeah. After this,

Andrea has a little dream. And it's not exactly

the central fantasy we thought it was gonna be based on how hunky

Dr. Philo is. What is this dream that she had? Yeah. So I think it's

finally picking up the thread of my notes here. It's right after that bit,

I think. Yeah. Creepy ass surgery scene where it's

the country girl, she's been, like, chloroformed and taken off. And there's this like,

kind of almost like satanic whispering or something.

Yeah. And while she's having the, you know,

bit of crystal, whatever, this jumping head about, you know, implanted into her neck.

And maybe this is why, you know, because there's a bit of blood where the

implant. This is where it got the R rating, which still seems insane.

Really? Totally. And you cut to Andrea waking up,

making it seem like it was kind of her nightmare or maybe she was having,

like a psychic flash. It's unclear what happened, but I like that because it's

just so kind of bizarre. In the dark, they both kind of look alike.

Yeah. Yeah, true. So it's kind of like one of those things where I was

like, wait, who. Who got kidnapped? What? Blondes have more

fun. Good old Barry is being a total ass about her

being in the school. And of course he's calling up and going, hey, I did

some research on that place you're at. The school's weird.

Talking about Native Americans and also about sacrifices

and the people who set up the school did some evil

shit. He's very vague, but he's just so pathetic,

it's hilarious. So, of course we see that Mary

Beth has changed, and she's acting like a real preppy asshole now.

Doesn't want to hang out with Andrea and Susie. Very sad.

And also during all this, Mr. Fehlner, our bad boy,

is really running into trouble. He has a scene where he argues

with the Latin professor. It's really embarrassing argument.

And sure enough, he is just pretending to be stupid.

Because when the teacher says something to him in Latin, he's like,

you're sick. Yeah, I mean, I neglected to translate this,

but I got like flat flagella flagellata or something like that.

Which sounds like, I don't know, I'm gonna whip you or something maybe. I'm guessing,

could do a little spanky. Yeah.

He's gonna Leave the school, Mr. Fellner.

He tries to leave, but then the preppies get him. He tries to take

them all on with a champagne bottle that he stole, but they get

him and we hear his screams. And we cut to my favorite

thing in horror movies, a swimming pool at night where Virginia

Madsen, wearing even in a slightly conservative

bathing suit, is just so gorgeous.

I wish I'd seen this movie as a teenager. Her towel gets stolen.

Then Philo's there being creepy again,

hitting on her, and she's like, I'm dropping your class.

He's like, why? Because of all this.

Like, this is insane. Asshole. Outside. Barry just

shows up and this is where I wrote down my Beverly Hills 90210 moment.

He and he and Philo have some words and

it's just so overwrought. Teenage melodrama.

I love it. Huh? Looks like you're getting a lot

of studying done here. Barry. What are you doing here? Who the

hell is this guy to you? Andrea, you're not a student here. No,

I'm not. It's okay. He's a friend of mine. A friend? Is that

what I am? A friend? I think. After this.

So it's my next note. Anyway. We have kind of a jello esque moment,

like a POV shot of a black glove smushing Andrea's face

impression that she's done on the pin screen. Yeah, yeah. It's really weird.

I like that there'll be. Without getting ahead, there's a great

use again of that pin screen towards the end of the

movie. Yep, yep. Freaking.

The Dean and Philo were talking about some operations

and about serum dosages and they're doing this really loud in the courtyard

and freaking Andrea just happens to be there because

freaking Emerson has gone missing. She goes down to

the freaking infirmary where she finds Emerson's

body. Pie in minutes,

Mrs. M. In minutes. In just 10 minutes

you got it made. 10 minutes in the microwave or

20 minutes in an oven and you've got

a tender, flaky crust brimming with lots of luscious fruit. Ms.

Dismiss. Pie in minutes. Isn't it nice to have pie this

good, this fast? Pie in minutes, Mrs.

Ms. Pie in minutes. In just 10 minutes

you got it made. I love the scene under

the infirmary. It's just like the horror stuff is finally

here, you know, it's been kind of.

This whole movie is a very mild horror movie to

begin with. Yeah, there's some nice kind of like creepy

moments which seem to work well amongst all the, you know, the hijinks

and all that. And some nice little like, you know, the bit with the photo

before and it all sort of doubled down this later. And Richard

Cox really plays It. Well, this kind of melancholic sort

of longing, what have you. Yeah, it kind of works quite well.

Yeah, good call. Underneath the infirmary is

the dungeon from the Subspecies movies. And then,

sure enough, Mr. Fellner has returned. He's no longer the bad boy,

he's a preppy good boy. And of course,

we found out that Emerson, the comedic character,

he died because they didn't have proper records on him.

So when they went to go put in, you know, his little doodad

to make him a zombie, he was in hemophiliac and he bled out.

They're just reporting what a sad accident it was. And Lietta's

like, yeah, the surgery team on campus really messed that

one up, huh? Like what? Just a bit like,

how in the fuck what. Somebody says, you best not

shine me, girl. And I wrote that down with no context

whatsoever. So that might have been Susie saying

that. Oh, yeah, yeah, because it's about going to

the. The dance and cheese line. I'll catch you later. We are

gonna knock him dead. Hey, come on. You haven't even started getting

ready yet. I will. I just. I can't seem to get started.

Well, let's move it. We gotta get going. I'll meet

you there, okay? I promise. You promise? I promise.

You better not shine me, girl. It won't.

So let's get to this dance. This is the big scene of

the movie here. This is great. Yeah, yeah, tell me about it.

You have this band and dance, the Colonel.

Oh, sorry, that's gonna spoiler alert. But Dean stroke Colonel.

Because we've been talking about this guy, I think, Colonel Ettinger.

Yes. He's the guy who founded the school. Who founded the school and who,

again, spoiler alert. Obviously is the Dean, you know, still alive and

kicking. And yeah, he's like, I don't know how this band's

got hide. Because he does not approve at all. Nor of like, what Sherilyn

Femme, you know what, the dress that she's wearing now,

this is where, if you hadn't noticed them already, you will really start to notice

all the wipes because we start doing this spin like, revolving door wipe

with a kind of a whoosh sound effect cutting back and forth between the scene

and. Yeah, they do this several times between that and Philo and

Andrea basically dropping a huge exposition

sort of backstory bomb on us. So after maybe the second time,

they cut back because they're playing some kind of ballad, I guess

in the band who does this are called

Tease, I believe. Yes. I was just looking them up.

Yeah. So they've got, I guess, two songs on here, I think. I guess this

is. This is so fucking weird, man. So, right, let's go from the top.

So we've had. Let's go crazy. Yep, yep, can't stop, which almost

sounds like a queen thing. And we'll talk about Kiss my butt and not the

title, but you know what it. From the first fucking line,

you know, how they didn't get sued is mind blowing. But another

one here called I wish you were here and how do they do

this? Getting, you know, paying probably

10 times the budget to get Pink Floyd on the soundtrack. Sure,

sure. So, yeah, they're playing this. And after she maybe

gets bored of this or whatever. And, oh, there's a great moment of all the

zombie. The highs at 420. Blazing zombie,

preppy kids or whatever, mind control kids are all,

like dancing in step. Almost like one has got their feet on the other and

they're like rocking side to side. All in perfect universe, which is this fucking

perfect. Oh, it's so good. So after Sherilynn Fenn gets

bored of this and after we've come back, she asked the band, do you

think you could heat it up a little bit? And the guy's like, I thought

you'd never ask. And playing a song called Body Heat

where, yeah, he puts his. I think this is where he puts his. And it

makes me think of fucking. A few people have done this, but particularly Larry Graham

from fucking Slaying the Family Stone. And Graham Central Station, who likes,

you know, when he's walking out, like, rocking a fucking captain's sea

captain's hat for some reason. Yeah, because it's like,

yeah, it's time to take the funk boat, you know, the high

seas or whatever.

So if it wasn't for the music of the funk,

if they played some, like, other kind of music, 80s stuff.

I get such a Twin Peaks vibe because of frickin Sherilyn Fenn,

of course. But Barry has snuck in and

he's dressed like one of the preppies to blend in. And he's like,

yeah, dance with me. So they don't know. And we get to see how

terrible of a dancer he is. He tells her, I don't dance. Then we

see him and he's almost like Elaine from that famous Seinfeld bit.

The little kid. So pathetic. There's a

great moment. Sorry. In the commentary, where I'm sorry, I'm forgetting his fucking name.

No. Oh, look, the guy's not Nathaniel Thompson. Who's this?

Edwin Samuelson and he says when this bit comes on,

he says, I apologize on behalf of all white people.

God bless him. God bless him. Are you telling me

that you killed Emerson because you developed some kind

of serum? We don't kill anyone. This was a terrible accident.

Andrea. I. What I do is to implant

a crystal in the brain which compensates for the loss of certain brain functions.

So that's the trade off. You live forever and

the students get lobotomized. That's not lobotomy,

Andrea. These people lead very, very successful lives. More successful

than if they hadn't had the implant because they're no more neuroses, no more agonizing

over things, no more. There's no more anything. What you're doing

is sick. You can't replace human emotions with a crystal like

vampires. You think you could heat it up a little bit?

I thought you'd never ask.

So Tease is a real band. We've got some other, like, music videos, like some.

Some very low budget shot, like just them in front of a gray,

like TV studio stage performing and stuff like that.

But no, Tease is the real deal. They're fun. I love them and I love

the. I don't know whether you call that where they take it to the bridge

or whatever, or chorus or whatever. That is kind of nasty slap.

A debase all over. Oh, my God, it's so good.

Oh, it's so good. So Philo

confesses to Andrea what's been going on and

this whole thing with this, like, in his

words, like an Indian medicine man and the

pact or whatever they made to live forever,

blah, blah, blah. And I

believe Andrea tells him, you can't replace human emotions with a crystal.

Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. And then we just

keep cutting back to the dance. And I just wrote so white.

And I wrote, the dance is amazing.

Finally, Andrea and Barry get back together and now they're super sleuths

trying to solve this mystery that I'm putting in quotation marks.

And they end up fighting against all of the. The whole thing is going

crazy. The dean and Philo and

all of the cohorts are arguing now. So all this

chaos is happening all over. Andrea jumps into

the dean's car and hot wires it. Barry gets on his motorcycle

and then quickly gets replaced by his stunt double,

who, even with a helmet on, looks so little

like Barry. It's mind blowing. Like, the dude's got a long

nose and you know, Barry just it so cute.

He has different hair coming out under the helmet and everything. Just so

different. She goes to the cops? Of course cops

are in on it. Craziest damn thing I ever heard.

So you say there's some kind of. Drug ring being operated by the faculty at

Ettinger? It's a pretty wild claim,

Andrew. It's not a drug ring. You said they're all taking

drugs. It's not really a drug, okay? It's a serum. They make

it themselves using chemicals from the human body.

Manufacturing drugs on the premises. You're not listening to me. The faculty

is making this serum by using chemicals from

the students brains. They're actually operating on them and when they're done with them,

different.

Craziest damn thing I ever heard. So we have

a car chase. An epic, absolutely epic car chase

that just comes out of nowhere and she wrecks and ends

up back at the school. Oh yeah. We meet this nurse,

who is this nurse that they introduced like in the kind of second

half of the movie I forgot about striking. Yeah, yeah.

This actress's name is Abigail Hannis. And I'm mad that we

didn't get introduced to her earlier. I feel like there's.

There was a deleted scene where we met her and they just decided to cut

it or something to keep the time down. This is her only credit.

Yeah. Unless I. Let me make sure. Here. He's got an amazing name. One of

the faculty madams, a guy. Faculty members. Guy called

Brass Adams. Oh yeah,

I can hear him clanging all the way down the hall. Let me see.

So you've got Kevin Kipper Jones, Eric and Thomas Organ

and the guy just called Jay. Oh, and there's. There's a faculty

member. Did you mention Gilbert Purvis? No, I did not.

What a horrible name. I'd kill my fucking parents.

So yeah, unfortunately this. This actress didn't do

anything else I can find. But she's so fun. She's like obsessed

with Barry and like she's just. She's got the. All the cool dialogue and everything.

I love her. I want more of this lady. Yeah, yeah. How are you feeling,

Andrea? I think she's strong enough now for surgery.

You had a nasty little accident.

You could have been killed.

Stop struggling. You're not going anywhere. And when

you wake up, the world. Will be a simpler place.

Listen, your boyfriend's here. Philo decides

to stop using the serum. So he's aging.

And then all of the faculty members, he like tainted their serum

or something and now they're all aging super fast.

We. So we finally get zombies. It is a bunch of dime

store monster masks on these old.

All these old Dudes just are instantly monsters. And all this

crazy shits breaking loose on campus.

Including an awesome skeleton that just gives up trying to get Andrea.

Its head lifts up,

falls back down. And that's the most extreme, if I recall

correctly. It's like the most extreme. Extreme. The horror gets. Yeah, yeah.

I don't think anyone's face melts off or anything. The, the, the Dean

gets all beat up. He's covered in blood. I don't remember what happens

to him. I was so tired when I was watching this last night.

Oh yeah, please. I think Barry hits him with like a

bone sore or summit. Okay. So yeah,

he's probably got the most blood in like the entire movie after that.

There's your R rating. I was totally. I was exhausted. No, to pause the

movie and re watch the rest of it this morning. Fair enough.

Fair enough. Oh yes. It is not a comment on this film

at all. Well, to be fair, I mean, and I still,

you know, we'll come to it. I mean, if we're being critical or whatever.

The pacing in this is like weird.

It wouldn't have hurt to trim it a bit. I will say. Yeah, even,

Even at like, you know, the exact hour and a half. Yeah, they could be

a little shorter. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I, I wouldn't

change a thing. No, honestly, me neither.

So I forgot to mention earlier that apparently

all of these zombie people are being controlled

by the Doctor. Excuse me, by the Dean,

who has all these cool looking old reel to reel machines and

like computer looking things. But it's all controlled by like a tape

deck. And he plays this song. What cracks me up is

the tape it's playing in there has the Sire logo.

Oh yes. So either Sire

produced the perfect music in which to control people who have these

crystals installed inside them, or he

took two pieces of tape and covered up the little tabs

on the cassette and recorded over whatever Sire records

what was on what was on CY Records in 1987.

Wants to jump out me like Boy George, David Byrne,

Cure, Craig David. That's jumping back a bit. And he might not

be translated across the. Or maybe as Depeche Mode.

Yeah, there's some funky looking. I'll send you the artwork for this.

A band, a very R B funk looking cover

for something called Modernique. Modern Ink.

So beautiful. This is gorgeous. I want to, I want to listen to this Modern

Ink. But yeah, it's. It's just so funny that that logo is unmistakable.

Like there's lots of like little goof ups in this movie, but that

one Just made me laugh because I'm a freaking nerd.

Oh, this is painful. Okay. This is.

She's Got a Move by Modern Ink.

I'm gonna send you this. I'm gonna send you this so you can hear this

right now. This is important. Oh, and the bass kicks in and it redeems

itself completely. I'm sending it to you.

Well, we're gonna. We're stopping the whole show for Modern Inc. This is fucking great.

All night long Funky tongue All night. Long the girl turns me on.

That's the lyrics. Wow. Oh.

Mm. Yeah. Yep. Nice, Nice.

It's the secret theme song. The. Hello. This is the doom song.

Oh, my. She turns me out she

gotta move Boop a doopa doop doop, doop.

Oh, man, I thought I just totally derail us. I'm gonna come back to that

later, but. Wow. Yeah. There. This is like a Japanese CD

artwork in the background. And the typeface, it looks

like, I don't know, German expressionists. Like Metropolis or something.

Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Well, thank you for picking it up.

You're welcome. I had to bring the funk, you know. You brought it. The.

The white kids dancing. It makes me feel funky.

Barry has this idea to stop all this bullshit

by replacing the tape. So as they're

about to get away, they run back in, he puts on a cassette,

and then they leave. And speaking of copyright infringement

songs that sound just like more famous songs,

Kiss My Butt starts playing and it

is Fight from your right to Kiss My. Butt by

the Beastie Boys. It is such a ripoff of Fight. You do know

all the other songs, like you were saying, reminded us of

other songs. They definitely couldn't afford Pink Floyd.

And then I guess outside of their budget as well, would be Fight for your

right to pardon. Yeah, definitely. But, I mean, that's okay.

How? You know. I mean, maybe it's just not been uploaded to YouTube. This song,

because the first line, like, the syllables and,

like, the sound is like. So what is it like? You wake up in the

morning and your clothes don't match your hair. It so sound alike,

fucking identical. But if it was on YouTube, you'd think it would get pulled for

copyright infringement of the other song.

Oh, my God. So when he plays Kiss My Butt, aside from

destroying the viewer of the film's brain with that song,

it also makes all of the zombies that went to

this prep school grow, go haywire. And we get this awesome

sequence of all these people that were controlled

by this one fucking tape player in

this room of computers, all the Way up to the President of the

United States. And how they indicate these people are like,

what do you call it? Like, shorting out. You do like a little puff of

smoke out of their ear, but it looks like a puff of

like talcum powder. It's so

fucking stupid in the best way. Vaping out the side of

the neck or something. Like, you don't expect a movie this small

scale to have the big ending like that where potentially

society is going to crumble. I especially

like the girl in the shower. Somehow the music, she could

hear it even though she was in the shower. And girl falls over. Yeah.

No nudity that detected. No. Which is crazy considering,

you know, the two leading ladies involved and we know they were not shy.

Hey, good for them. Give them a break. Give them a break. I mean,

you know, like, there's a. Theory about this that it's probably because

the kind of prime mover behind this, you know, without getting too far into background

just yet, as ease Gazal. And on the.

One of the interviews on this Blu Ray with the

writer, one of the writers, Tim Doyle,

he calls him, he says he had a bit of a prudish attitude to disease.

So, you know, this may be. So why this, you know,

it turned out this way. Well, his other credit,

the Aziz Ghazal, his other credit was like a movie about like

gay culture. So I wonder if maybe he

just didn't want to see ladies naked, you know, like. Yeah, I suppose

I didn't go the. Other route and have a bunch of guys naked. But you

know, I was curious maybe that, you know, I mean, obviously you can,

as a straight person, you can make something about gay culture. But I

just thought it was an interesting little. Like the only other thing he did was

that I think that pretty much gets us to the end of the movie.

Right. Oh, and one last important thing. While they're,

you know, asking us to literally riding off into the sunset, asking us to kiss

their butt. We had, I think we've had a couple of moments

like this around the opening titles of like little animated interstitials

or what have you. At the end, it literally goes like,

fuck. It's making me think of like an 80s music video or something. Not like

Take on Me, but something like that where it literally

goes to like a painted or not drawn tray on.

I can't remember now, but you know what I mean? What is that? Why did

they do that? Yeah, it's so artful. Yeah.

So yeah, it turns into like a weird frickin artsy horizon

as they Ride off in the sunset together.

Straight, straight into the sun, which swallows

them and we get a Big Gulp on the soundtrack.

Just to remind us this is a horror movie. Yeah. I forgot to tell

you, by the way, you're supposed to be spooky. Oh,

man. So. So a little bit of trivia about this. This was a huge

fucking bomb. This made no money whatsoever.

Which is fine. It's just fine. I normally don't notice that, but there was like

this pulled like 20 grand in the theater. Yeah. They were saying

it. It's insane. It played, I think, is it the Egyptian theater? The big one?

In one of the big ones in Hollywood again, the writer, he's saying he was

sat in there and there was like, him and maybe three people

sat in this like several thousand seat theater. Oh,

boy, oh, boy.

The alternate title of this was the School that Ate

My Brain. Love it. Lovely.

Absolutely lovely. And the other titles were like Zombie

High, Zombie School, Zombie College, stuff like that.

So nothing too exciting beyond that. But the School Ate

My Brain. They should have gone for that. They should have leaned into the comedy

more, I think. Oh, totally, yeah. Yeah.

I do love the trivia on IMDb pointing out that Virginia Madsen was 26.

A little bit from the. Tim Doyle. Is that his name?

Yes, yes. A little bit from his interview was that Aziz Ghazal

was like head of the equipment department

at the school where he worked. And so he was the

one renting out cameras, renting out lighting, renting out whatever the students needed

to make films. And he just says he was a total. He's a big character.

He describes him as mono. What was it like?

Mono. Ego. What was that fucking word? I can't believe I didn't write mono.

Monomaniacal, maybe. Yeah. He described him twice

in the same interview as monomaniacal.

So, yes, he was quite a character. I didn't write

down a ton of notes for it because it kind of. And I suppose

we should maybe talk about this. I was kind of not going to mention it

because it's such a sad story, you know. What. Oh, what is this guy named

about Aziz? Gazelle. No. Do you know? Oh, right. Okay.

So, yeah, it is life. My God, it took such a dark

turn towards the end. Now he also, I think I might

be paraphrasing, gets described by Tim Doyle sort of, kind of affectionately

because he said, you know, Hollywood is full of characters like this kind of bullshit

artists who will, you know, just kind of string you along and

tell you one thing and then deliver. So he said, you know, that gave you

some experience. And so the school year you were alluding to this

is, I think USC is it. Was it. Was that where John

Carpenter went? I think, yeah, I'm pretty sure. So it's essentially kind

of a student film. Yep, he did, yeah, a bit

like sort of happened with Dark Star I suppose. Although, you know, the trajectory

that was a bit different. That was what I saw that was expanded to feature

length. So yeah, he was kind of the head of the equipment department

there and he kind of through his,

you know, just how he was, he was able to kind of sort

of strong arm a lot of people into getting involved in this to keep on

his good side, whatever. And that's, you know, I suppose is a good skill

in a way as a producer. Even, you know, reeks have been a bit manipulative

to be able to do this. Oh totally. To get all these people

involved. But yeah, later on. So he was

trying to get a film off the ground, I believe called the Brave, which I

think was later done by Johnny Depp. And he had a bad habit, this guy,

of like playing people against each other or trying to, you know, play both sides

against the middle or however you want to put it. And it kind of

caught up with him and he. I don't know the full story and

whether this. Because it does sound like he had a bit of a hair trigger

temper, whether there was some larger mental health issues at work.

But anyway, long story short, he eventually basically murdered his wife

and one of his daughters. Yeah, I think. And then torched

his house and basically killed himself. So terrible story.

Like I said, I wasn't even going to mention it because it kind of,

you know, is a bit like I'm watching this,

this interview. It kind of bummed me out a bit because he, you know,

and I, I admire his honesty and so forgetting his names. Tim Doyle.

I admire honesty about it but it did kind of.

It certainly didn't make me love the movie any mess but it did bum me

out a bit. So watching. But yeah, it's worth the watch

and it's interesting and kind of a cautionary tale I suppose. But my God,

yeah, that's fucking tragic to say the least. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. Well on that note, how do you feel about this movie?

Oh man, I fucking love it. I loved it. When I first

discovered I was like that was a few, I don't know, you know, less than

a 5 well spent on the rental that I got. And I was, you know,

overjoyed when 88 films, they put the Blu Ray out, you know,

so it's not expecting it to because it's, you know, been such an obscure

film for. Yeah, yeah. So many years

for it to. But, you know, this is the. The wonderful age we live in

now that just, you know, obscurities like this do get that kind

of deluxe treatment. As I was sort of alluding to you,

the extras on this, they're not

the best I've ever heard. You know, the commentary is fun, it's kind of loose.

A lot of it is more about stuff kind of tangential to the

movie, but still, you know, an enjoyable lesson.

Yeah, yeah. That Tim Doyle interview was kind of educational even again,

I was a bit depressed by the end of it,

you know, bless him. And the other one was with.

I guess he couldn't really find many people to talk with on this makeup artist

called Christopher Biggs. But it's a very interesting career and we more

talk about a lot of his. His other

credits and stuff that he'd done. But he was basically brought in to redo

the old age makeup, which is decent,

you know, even if it reminds me a bit of grandpa

from Texas Chainsaw Massacre a little bit.

It's certainly better than the freaking dime

store zombie masks. Oh, yeah, yeah. That the

old guys are wearing. Yeah, that was terrible.

But yeah. Oh, he worked on all kinds of good shit. Oh,

yeah, yeah. Nightmare on Elm street, the Unnameable.

Ooh, yeah, the unnameable. That makeup. And that's

awesome. HP Lovecraft.

Yep, yep. I recommend that one. That's. That's a good one. Ooh.

Silent Night, Deadly Night, Part 2, Critters,

Terror Vision. Something I've always wanted to

see and probably will be disappointing.

Hard Rock Zombies, which looks amazing.

I need to get down with that. Missing the most from Paul Mod of all,

though, between Zombie High and From a

Whisper to a Screen, which I think I've still not watched.

Yeah. Starting in 1987, special makeup effects artists on

my two dads. Man, how did. He's. What brought

those two dads to life, man. I never realized those were

animatronic, but. No. Yeah. You kindly sent me

the 88 films of this one. And thank you for that. I love

it. This was one of my favorites of the year. The year I saw it.

I don't remember what year was. I watched it a couple of years ago.

Yeah. Just really probably over the pandemic. I was like, what is this?

I've never heard of this. And sure enough, it's just. It's fantastic.

It's really Pretty shot. Really well, it's got some atmosphere.

It's also cheap as shit. Very silly,

very quaint. Like I was talking about. It does feel like it may

have had some stuff trimmed out of it, but as

we talked about with the pacing, we're just fine with it as it is.

And yeah, the only thing I could complain about was the dialogue was

not mixed very well. But that happens with some of these freaking movies. I mean,

God help me. I have Murder Weapon starring Linear

Quigley. And it's one of the worst,

absolute worst audio mixes. I can't understand a word

single character sang in that entire movie.

And thankfully good old Vinegar Syndrome provided subtitles.

Or else it's just lost. Yeah, and that was after I'd watched it on

the VHS tape and it struggled through on the VHS tape.

Get the Blu Ray. I'm still squinting at my tv. Like that didn't help.

Help. Oh, man. Do you have anything else you wanted to add

about good old Zombie High or Zombie?

Yeah, I mean, I just echo 20 blazing.

Yeah, I just echo everything you said, really. And it's just a good. You know,

I have so many of these now, but if I wanted a good, like,

comfort horror movie, just something that, yeah, just by the end of it, just.

It's just gonna leave you in a good mood, you know, it just has a

wonderful ending. And again, I think they handle the mix of tones

pretty well. You know, from having some generally creepy moments to

some, you know, goofy college, sorry, prep school hijinks,

whatever, to a bit of. Yeah, like, say genuine

kind of almost like emotion and stuff and what have you.

It's like the difference between tone issues and tone problems.

Like, this definitely doesn't have tone problems.

No, no, not at all. I think they handle it well and nothing really,

not one thing kind of unbalances the other, I would say.

Well, Simon, thank you for joining me on this wonderful

Zombie time. Most welcome.

And we're gonna freaking have some potatoes.

Just cover our plates and mashed potatoes. It's gonna be amazing. Oh,

have you heard that? I think it's off the Hangable Auto Bulb EP

or what have you. The AFX on the first track where they've

got the kid talking about mashed potatoes. Have you heard that?

No, Alice, I'll look that up. That's awesome. I will send it,

please. And folks, thanks for listening.

And remember, let's see,

you can't replace human emotions with a crystal,

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