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You've got to remember, I'm just a simple private detective.

I deal in facts. And all you're giving me is demons and devils.

Don't drive so fast. If you're afraid to meet your maker,

we're all in a lot of trouble. I'm not afraid to meet my maker.

I just don't want to meet him today.

Everything is ready, my darling.

Do not be afraid. Soon we'll be together

again.

This sandwich tastes as dry as hell.

Hello, and welcome to hello. This is the Doom show. I am

Richard. I am Brad. Folks, we have a listener

request. Brad, tell us about our listener and their request.

Okay, so friend of the show, friend of ours,

Mark really, really enjoys this film. And so

he mentioned it, and then he mentioned it again,

and maybe he mentioned it a third time, and he

had said something in this third mention that really,

really piqued my interest, which was Brian Eno,

and also because he's our friend,

and so he's been a really good friend of the show. So we wanted.

I texted you, I said, hey, would you want to do this? And you said,

of course. So we both bought the Blu ray,

the indicator Blu ray, and I'm not going to tell him anything

about it. I'm just going to let him find out.

Perfect. Yep. Perfect surprise.

Exactly. All right. It's called the Devil's

men, aka Land of the minotaur.

And this is a greek horror

film bankrolled by british people and

starring british people, which we'll get into. This is directed

by Kostas Karragianis,

and I've never seen anything else he directed.

This was also written by Arthur Rowe. He actually

did write a few films. Oh, I missed his writing credits.

What? He wrote the magnificent seven ride,

which is the final in that.

In that trilogy of films. And he wrote

Zeppelin from 1971,

which sounds interesting. It's about a. Like a

height. It's kind of like a heist film, but it's World War one,

so you're there on a zeppelin. Sounds interesting.

Michael York. Elka summer. Yeah. Yeah.

And so then he was a producer of Fantasy

Island. I. Having produced, according to Wikipedia,

137 episodes, writing 13 of them.

Nice. Wrote colchack episodes. Yes.

Makes him a winner in my book. Hell, yeah. Finally got

that box set. Yes. Nice. I love colchack.

My dad loves colchack, too. All right,

I have a lovely trailer

for the film. So here is the trailer for the devil's menta.

Come with us, if you dare. On a

terrifying journey through cells of madness,

haunts of horror, and fear. Come with

us to this forsaken monument of crumbling

stones which echoes the desolate cries of the dead.

Descend with us to the forbidden chambers of the ancient

pagan gods of wrath, where the devil's men

performed the secret rites of the land of

the Minotaur.

Those who enter the forbidden chamber of the Minotaur

must die.

The land of the Minotaur.

Donald pleasence, as the man of God who defies

the dark and sinister powers that curse this land and

all who venture into it.

The devil has many faces and many helpers,

too. Come on, let's get out of here.

Peter Cushing, as the red prince of evil,

who lures young lovers into the deadly embrace of the

devil's men. The old

customs remain and the ancient gods

live on. The old customs remain and

the ancient gods evolved.

Bullets cannot stop them. No, brutally.

Power can stop him.

The land of the Minotaur. The most terrifying

film of 1977.

Coming to this theater soon.

Don't miss it. From the

Internet system called Google, I discovered

the VHS tape from interglobal video.

Here's the tagline on the tape. It says, half man,

half beast trapped in a world forgotten by time.

Not accurate. No, no, not at all. They were

trying to pass this off with the art. And the tagline is

like a, you know, like an adventure film. Uh huh.

No, no. But here's the plot synopsis from said

VHS tape. A small village is the setting for horrifying

ritual murders, demons and disappearances of young tourists.

Father Roche is aware of the evil surrounding the

village, and when his own pupils begin to disappear without

a trace, he sets out to uncover the cause. Black hooded figures,

symbols of ancient worship, convince the father that

he is dealing with a phenomenon older than mankind. A power without

a face that can make people abide by its wishes.

Ordinary methods cannot destroy the power that is running

the village. Exorcism is the only method to destroy them.

The sacrifice begins when the moonlight falls.

88 minutes. Color.

Excellent. Thank you. That was my finest performance.

It was up there.

I got goosed by my own performance.

So spoiler alert, folks, we're gonna spoil this movie. But let me

tell you, thank God we're not going scene by scene,

right? We'd be here for 15 hours.

Especially trying to explain the mechanics of this film's supernatural aspects

that will never be explained. Motivations,

they don't have them. But, you know, watch the film first

so, you know, don't get spoiled if you don't care. Then let's proceed.

Yes, some. Some wonderful people in the cast. Donald pleasence.

Wonderful, wonderful. Donald pleasence. You know,

what was he doing before and after this, other than having

a beautiful wife who has a small part in this movie?

Ooh. Are you serious? I did not know that.

Oh, yeah, his. We'll get to that. We get to nice. I did not know

that. In 1976, he had

a bunch of stuff come out in 1976 because, you know, he liked to work.

Nothing horror related in 1976.

Except for this. Yeah, this was the horror outing that

year. Interesting. The following year. The following year was the uncanny.

Uh huh. And then 1975 was

I don't want to be born, aka Sharon's baby, which I love.

You do love you. I've actually seen that film because

you sent it to me once upon a time and we watched the hell out

of it. Oh, it's crazy. He was also

in escape to witch Mountain that year in 1975.

Wow. You know, I've never seen those films. I've never seen those.

I haven't seen the uncanny. What was he doing in

1978? Nothing. He's retired.

I knew it. I knew it. If only he'd

found that signature roll. If only that could

have happened for him. Next thing you know, you're at a windy salad

bar.

Next up we have Peter Cushing. Of course, you know,

Peter Cushing looks like a freaking skeleton. He may have

already been dead at this point. Not sure. I mean,

I love him. He brings it. He doesn't care that he doesn't know what's going

on. He's excellent in this movie, as always.

He is dressed like a boss. Totally,

totally. This year, the year of 1976,

which I love. 1976. Of course, he was in

at the earth's core space,

1999. And then the previous year, he was

in the ghoul legend of the werewolf. All kinds of cool stuff.

Then the following year, again, the uncanny. Well,

so he and pleasance paired up again. I wonder if they shared scenes,

because I wasn't so sure that they shared scenes in this until we got

way into the film. See, I'm worried about the

cats in that movie because the cats feature prominently in that film.

I've not seen it. Like I said, don't. Do they, do they mistreat

cats? I'm looking in the keyword search.

Gotcha. It looks like it might be safe

to watch said movie. I'm getting more and more sensitive to

these things. Right. Just cause it's 1977, can't you use a CGI

cat? But yeah. Peter Cushing, awesome in this movie, has a

scene stealing. Excuse me, a movie stealing

scene in it. We'll talk about that. Donald pleasence plays Father Roche,

the hero. Well, one of our heroes,

Peter Cushing, plays Baron Corfax, the villain.

Lori is our lady pal in this movie. She's played by

the very lovely luan Peters. Yes. Oh, my gosh.

Mark made mention of Luann Peters. She is in

some other films that we really enjoy.

Yeah, she was in lust for a vampire and

the flesh and blood show. That's the one. Pete Walker.

And then, so I mentioned that. I mentioned that to Elizabeth, and Elizabeth,

we talked about Pete Walker for the next ten minutes and how

we love, like, every other year, we watch all of Pete's

horror films. Of course. Of course you do.

She had a couple episodes of Doctor who, apparently.

And she was in a very fun episode of Fawlty Towers. That's how I know

her. Yes, and we talked about that too, where Basil

tries to repeatedly turn a switch on and off.

Oh, boy. So our hero alongside

Donald Pleasance is Milo, played by Kostas

Kara Georges, which is very confusing since the

director is Kostas Karagianis.

They're very similar names, these boys.

And the thing about the principal greek

cast in this movie is they were all prolific in

Greece. Like, they all have 50, 60,

90 credits to their names. And this Chara Georges

guy is certainly no stranger to that. When we introduce,

when we're introduced to him in the plot, we will talk about this actor because

we need to. This. This movie should have been called Milo. I mean,

he's also the director, but he has two. But he has a

different last name. Yeah, as far as I understand,

it's the same guy. What? The director

was Costas Carrageianis.

Right. And Costas Carragiores,

credited as Costas Scouras was Milo.

So he directed the film. I had no, I thought it was two different people.

Okay, well, he was credited. That's. I mean, there was a reason you thought that

was because he didn't want anybody to know. Ah. And he was credited

under one name, and he directed it. Kind of like a Paul Nashi thing.

Bob Baling, who is. He plays Tom,

one of the hippies who shows up. He was in one of my least

favorite films of all time, island of death. I haven't

seen it. Don't. No, it is a

video nasty. It's actually gross and

actually shocking. And I strongly don't recommend

it to you, especially for your tastes. I haven't seen

it, and I don't plan to. He was also in

the not so great greek giallo called the hook with Barbara

Boucher. Which is.

It's boring. It's very tepid. Not a fan.

No, it's not very good. No. Next up

is Jane Lyle, who plays Milo's girlfriend,

who's not a big part of this movie, but she's got a funny moment.

Two funny moments. She was also an island of death,

the poor thing. Oh, my gosh. Mira Shore,

who plays the maid. She is Donald

pleasence's wife. Wow. Do you remember the

maid who knocked over the thing? I do. Broke his

crucifix or his cup of something

religious. Wow. That. Yeah.

Yeah. Beautiful. Yes, she was.

I did notice her. Oh, my. Yeah. Because she's walking out

of the room after she's broken, and she stops and looks

back at him and has that look on her face and

then just keeps walking off. Yeah, I remember her. Wow. That's great trivia

right there. Next up is Jessica Dublin. She plays

misses Zagros. She's a character who tries to help

during the movie, does not help at all. But this actress was in

all kinds of stuff. She's in fragment of fear. Mm hmm.

She was in so sweet, so dead.

Yep. She was in sex of the witch,

one of the worst giale ever made. See, there's another. You see, you talk,

I listen. I haven't seen it. I have it. I can't

wait to rewatch it because. You told me not to. Oh,

watch it. I want you to feel my pain. No,

I'm excited to rewatch it with the new, really restored edition,

because one of the problems I have with it is it's

almost impossible to see in the old bootleg

form. Gotcha. And maybe it sucks. Maybe it'll suck

worse being able to see what's going on. I don't know. You never

know. But poor Jessica Dublin.

She was also an island of death.

That's gonna be our new thing. I think it was made at the same time

as this. I think island of Death was also 76.

Yeah, it was. Next up, just a little bit of trivia.

Robert Rioty, he's the one who voices the cop.

Vendris Vendress is played by someone named Dimitris

Bislanis. But this guy, over 230

credits to his name. Wow. Mister Raite.

And he had a very small part in the omen.

He was the monk who was pushing the other monk

in the wheelchair around, and he had some lines. That's all

I remember. Monkey, monk,

monk. We're gonna try to talk about this plot, and Brad and I,

before we started recording, talked about how difficult this plot is to

talk about. Yes, because this movie is

really complicated, and if you categorize

things as important, then nothing happens

in the movie. Right. But if you

want to talk about what happened in the movie, you have to pull out some

stuff. So we did. But also,

this movie's insanely hilarious, but we'll get to

that. When we get to that, we're going to talk about this opening sequence.

This introduces us, the viewer,

to these evil people. Brad, what's going on in this frickin

opening sequence? So there's some people

in hoods worshipping a Minotaur,

which the actual story of the Minotaur, as we'll all remember from

our middle school greek mythology, is a terrible story.

And we discover immediately, right off the bat that

Peter Cushing is the leader of these people.

They murder some young people. Some would say hippies.

Yep. We never learned the motivation of why they're killing people

for the Minotaur, what the Minotaur has promised

them in return or has given them in

the past. It is. There's no motivation for this killing.

And, Mark, listen, don't take any of this negatively, because.

I don't mean it negatively. Nope. But. But there's

no mystery to this film as far as the

plot. It's the Minotaur. So two things about

the Minotaur he needed. Well, three things. One, he's very mad about

people coming into his secret chamber.

He threatens to kill people because they've been there, who have never been there.

He threatens to kill people who've been there. Then he doesn't kill them. But then

he doesn't talk about his followers being protected from him

killing them. Like, that's neither here nor there. The other fun

thing is definitely a blowtorch being fired

out of his nostrils. Right. Looks like the most dangerous prop

I've ever seen. Yes. How do you grow as a cult if

you. If they. If the. If what you worship

kills you immediately? You know, I don't understand.

And then the best thing is the Minotaur is

anatomically correct. Yes. And you,

boy, you get a look at his junk over and over again.

Yeah. It's made of stone, but it's still quite

hard. Quite, quite a man.

Yes. That was. You saw that all the time. And I should

have watched the other scene to even understand how they went around, how they

got around all that, but I did not.

Oh, boy. So Donald pleasence, his father, Roche,

he's trying to report to the authorities that people are

disappearing. It's not working. And so he writes to

Milo, the one and only Milo,

shout out to Simon. Simon, you'll get this one.

It's not Milo. It's my lol.

That's a little Simon joke there. And then,

Brad, what you wrote in your notes,

you said, I hope Milo isn't our hero. What? What does that mean?

I thought he was dopey. Kind of dopey.

Also wrote, because we see him,

like, our first. Our first scene of him is on, uh, he's with

this girl, and, uh, it's all.

It's. She's naked. Completely naked. And, uh,

I wrote, he's like Chris Avra in Bay of blood.

But. But he's ugly.

He looks like father Ted. He does look like Father Ted.

Holy crap. Fans of british tv.

And you know what I regret? I regret saying that I kept it in there

because it's funny, because he actually equipped himself quite nicely.

Oh, that's right. He is. There's two things about

this character. One, his swagger is hilarious.

It's awesome. He has. He has a very unusual

screen presence. And what's set up here is he's

skeptical of what Father Roche is telling him. Father Roche

is, quote unquote, one of his best friends he ever had.

Right. And he's completely skeptical. And so

is his girlfriend. His girlfriend is completely skeptical? Yes.

All right. Who is she?

Incredible. How did you guess that? My pen pal wore a skirt.

Give me that letter.

It's just another one from that party. Irish priest. Don't put him down.

All right, so maybe he's gotten carried away, but he's no crackpot.

He's the best friend I ever had, and he's been good to

me. I owe him a lot, so lay off him.

Oh, come on. These things he keeps writing you about students

disappearing, being swallowed up by some ancient magic or

something. It's crazy. It's medieval.

I know it sounds a little far. Fetched, but are

you trying to tell me you believe it? No.

At least not enough to drop my work and go over there and help him.

Because he wants me to. Besides, if it's true, he can tell the police he

did. They don't want to know.

Well, you can't blame them. They've got

better things to do. We're gonna come back to the two of them later.

The gist is he's not dropping what he's doing in New York to go

flying out there. Has this actor ever set

foot in New York? I think not. No. Negative.

Go nowhere. Next up, we meet some fun

loving archaeologists. This is Ian, Beth, and Tom.

And they show up to hang out with

father, Father Roche because they're gonna go on to do some

exploring at this archaeological site.

And he literally tells them, don't go.

It's dangerous. But more importantly, this establishes

something wonderful in this movie, Brad, something that you pointed out in your notes.

The awkward silences. What is up?

I don't know. There's two scenes in particular where dialogue

is given and then everyone stands

there silent for,

I mean, not like much longer than you,

than you should have. So there's a couple of scenes of just awkward

silences which really just add to the oddness of the film because

you're like, why? Did anybody say anything? Yeah.

It's like, did I pause the movie by accident? Yes,

exactly. So. So they're like. He's like,

why do you want to go there? What's changed? And they pull out the

little bull symbol in gold, this little minotaur

symbol. That's going to be a recurring theme in this movie. And that's. They're just

staring at it. And that's supposed to be important.

It fails completely, and I love it.

Yes. So next up, all these hippies.

She's fine for a little while, but the guys go in to the

crypt, find the previous corpses, and then

they are captured. She goes into the town full of weirdos

to do some shopping. It's just like a Paul Nashi film

where two people are like, we've come in search of this tomb

that's been in, that's been hidden for 2000 years,

and it's just in the most likely spot. They're like, whoa, here it

is. And they go in. Yes. And that's exactly

what happens. And this film did remind me at times of an Ashy

film. Yes. But, yeah, these guys found this ancient tomb real,

real easily. Nice. In this town of weirdos,

we meet Peter Cushing, who's, who's. I wrote in my notes, cushing of

the Carpathians. That's right. He's an out of

towner who's become a local by,

you know, starting this cult or whatever happened.

Exactly. I just love that Peter Cushing is in this and

giving his best as he could with what he was given.

Always a class act. Then Beth gets captured by

something very important. She gets captured by these cloaked figures

that we've been talking about. And I want to talk about

two things right quick. The year 1976.

Right? That's the year I was born. So all movies that

came out in 1976, aside from island of Death,

are movies I enjoy checking out. I love

seeing what was in the cinematic atmosphere,

the time I was plopped out on this planet,

and my mom tells a story about some

cloaked figures trying to kidnap me.

So according to my mother, when I was two weeks

old, there's a knock at the door at our house in Great Falls, Montana.

And there were men in cloaks, and they asked

her to give them me,

her first and only son.

And she said, no,

you can't have them. And they asked again, and she slammed

the door in their face and they left. And she was very unnerved by this.

And when I asked her to elaborate

on this story, she said,

that's all I remember. I was very sick from the anesthesia

they gave me. When you were born. Ask your grandma.

And I never did. I never asked my grandma. That's the whole story.

I don't know who these men were. I don't know where. I didn't know where

you were going. I assume they were production assistants

on Land of the Minotaur looking for a baby extra.

I don't know what the story is, but in doomed movie Thon,

the book available Amazon.com in my

1976 movie Thon, you can read all. I was going to ask about this.

Yep. Yep. That's it. That's it. That's a story that my mother tells. Whether or

not it's a true story, I have no idea. But they

didn't get me. But they got Beth. They took Beth away.

I own a copy of every book that Richard has written.

A and sorry I paid for all of

them. I'm pretty sure myself. I appreciate that.

Yeah. There were no give me, because I support Richard.

I'm sorry for your loss of money and shelf space.

No, I'm staring at him right now. I can see him.

But, folks, giallo meltdown two is the best

book he's written so far, in my opinion.

He's always been good, but he's come a long way, too.

And it is. It's. It's a very enjoyable book. You really.

You really got it down pat. And I know other people who said the

same thing. I appreciate that. I'm like Virginia

slims. I've come a long way, baby. That's right.

So, Laurie, before he died

or got kidnapped or whatever, Tom the hippie writes

to his girlfriend, Laurie, and she comes running

to come and join them. She arrives, and she's as

blonde as every other woman in this movie. She might be

the blondest. She is rather

nude. Not all the time, but, you know, she's very

into bathing. Brad, what happens with this bath. This pivotal

bath sequence. So she gets in the bath naked,

which, uh, is that how you

get in a bath? But, uh, she gets in the bath,

and, like, everywhere. Windows,

doors, from all sides of the room, uh,

are hooded figures opened in windows. Closing windows. Opening doors,

closing doors. It's really creepy. I love

it. It's. It's creepy and jarring and confusing. It is.

It's like, peekaboo. We're here everywhere.

One thing about Laurie that's very important to the plot is

her body is not aware of gravity at this stage of her

life. Nope.

So now Milo's getting

involved again. I believe it's a phone call this time.

And he.

Does Milo ever get dressed? Yes, he does.

But the scene with

his girlfriend and this scene with his girlfriend are clearly filmed back to

back or right at the same time, because he's naked in both of them.

He's smoking cigarettes in both of them. His girlfriend's naked in both of them and

giving him crap about this rose stuff. It's part of

this. The worst stuff about this movie is the back and forth.

Why did we need this scene again? Like, come on.

But I made me laugh because Milo is just naked all the time. And it.

To me, it kind of was like, let's see. In Babel,

where Chris Abram. They talk about the skrunk. Oh,

yeah. Or squawk. Yeah. Squawk.

I think it's the squawk. Yeah. I think it's wonk.

But it kind of reminds me, and that's never a bad thing.

Never. So. So he finally comes

to Greece and rents a car. And, man, this stuff

is so fun. This is my favorite shit in the movie.

How Milo thinks that Father Roche is his best

friend, I have no idea. Maybe he's the only one who tells him like

it is. Tells it like it is to him. They are

immediately arguing, especially about Milo's driving.

He's gonna get them killed. It's awesome. It's great.

Loses his hat, and Father Roche is like, my hat.

Go back for my hat. That's my best hat. And Milo's like, I hate your

hat. That's awesome.

It is like what? You're driving. You're riding in

a convertible. Maybe you should take your hat off,

you know? Hey, what a concept. Milo hates that.

That's some bad hat, Harry. Which is a quote from

Star Wars. Star wars, the Next Generation.

Episode three.

Roses are red, violets are blue, light beer from Miller. I love

you. You've got a third less calories than the regular beer. And really

are less filling, which is something to cheer. But what I like above all the

rest is the way you taste. You are the best. Yes. Blue is a violet

and red is a rose. And if you don't believe me, I'm gonna break

your nose like beer from Miller.

Everything you always wanted in a beer. And less. Okay. All this

shit is being crazy. We keep having all these

incidents where cloaked figures run in.

Milo never sees them. He is so skeptical

to the point of complete madness, where Laurie

and Roche are like, dude, this shit is crazy.

And Miles, like, nope, haven't seen it. Nope, I didn't see that.

How anyone who looks like Father Ted is gonna

be, like, stoic and not

into weird shit. I don't. I don't get it. I don't know, man. He.

Yeah, he's got musk. He's got some sort of nashy musk about him.

Oh, boy. It's so good. So.

So next up, we see Tom and Beth

and them being held by the Satanists, by the

minotaurists. What is

going on? When the Minotaur speaks to the girl.

So he

tells the Minotaur. Tells her that he wants her to kill

Father Roche. And then we see, uh, father Roche

there in the chamber with a knife

coming at his eye, you know, repeatedly. Repeatedly.

What they're hoping is a flash forward,

obviously, but it's a really. It's a really cool scene. The girl

that plays. The girl's really good. That plays the,

uh, the child that they want to kill

father Roche. That little girl is like. Her name's, like,

christina. And the actress's name is also Christina. So it's one of

those, you know, she's definitely a Madonna.

Exactly. Everybody in Greece knows Christina.

Christina.

So, yeah, that's one of my big complaints about this movie is not this

scene. This scene is cool. This is the only scene that isn't like all the

other ones with the Minotaur stuff, where the Minotaur is really repetitive

with his orders and really repetitive with what he says. And whenever

they go to him, if they're not sacrificing somebody,

the minotaur just comes up out of the floor, blows fire,

makes his proclamations, goes away. Like, I was almost

expecting it to be a wizard of Oz situation.

I totally was. Peter Cushing is controlling this animatronic

creature. But no, no, I thought we

were far in. And I said. I asked Elizabeth, I said, do you think,

is this supernatural? And she said, yeah, duh,

moron or whatever. And I'm like,

okay. I'm like, well, I didn't know. I thought maybe it might have been.

And that's what I said. A wizard. Weird. The law situation where somebody's controlling

this thing. I'm like, but because we don't

get, we don't get any motivation from the Minotaur.

We don't, you know, he just demands that you kill who comes in there.

I mean, you know, that's, that's pretty easy,

you know, for a cult. It just, what is he, what does he, you know,

does he give him stuff? Is it for the harvest?

I don't. I don't know. But it also, it adds

also to the strangeness of the film.

Totally, totally. I almost said totally, totally.

Only one thing can save you now.

Father Rose has died. He has

entered my.

No. What's the matter?

He wants Father Roche. He wants me to murder him.

So things kind of hit the fan where the

black cloaked figures finally reveal themselves to Milo

as well as everyone else. And there's this big fight scene.

They find the hippies, the missing hippies van. They run over a

guy. They run over Ventress, who's vendress,

who's this cop who's been, like, smugly watching them

and denying everything that's happening. The next morning at

the hotel, they can't find Lori. Lori's gone.

When Vendress, who we know to be one of the members of this

cult, shows up, Milo flips the fuck

out. Brad, what? What happens when this shit goes down?

He's just decided he's not going to take any more shit and

just goes wild. It's like, he didn't. He, like,

he flew from America to Greece to help the father.

Immediately upon arrival. He's like, I don't believe anything you're saying.

And then spends the rest of the movie actively denying

that anything is going on supernatural. And then

finally something happens, and he's like, oh, I get it.

And it's on him. Beating the crap out of this cop lasts

for quite a while, but then the baron,

good old Peter Cushing, rolls up with a shotgun. He literally

brings a shotgun to a milo fight. That's right. And is

threatening to shoot Milo. And then this great

standoff, Donald pleasence, you know, he's trying to

defuse the situation. Peter Cushing does a countdown and

then literally stops time by shooting the grandfather clock.

And, oh, it's just beautiful. It's a beautiful moment

and probably one of the best written moments in the movie.

They leave. They pretend to leave. And of course,

Roche is like, yes, that's nice you have a gun,

Mister Milo. Not gonna work on these people. Need to

get some religious artifacts to take these fuckers

down. They go to a church, he gets the

crucifix, he gets the holy

water. Holy water. And they head out to the

lair of the Minotaur. Not the land of the Minotaur,

to the lair. Right. And Donald pleasant says the most baffling

thing and liad and I were talking about it off and on today.

Please tell me and us. He enlists

Milo's help to get up on the second

floor of this lair so that

he can block the moonlight from

getting in the window, thus letting the evil people

complete the ritual because it's powered by moonlight. Okay,

okay, Brad, this is the, this is the most important question I'm gonna ask you

in the history of this podcast. Okay, I'm ready.

How does Donald pleasence block this

window? The moonlight. And what effect does it have when

he successfully or unsuccessfully blocks

it? It's a two parter. So he,

he climbs up it in a ridiculous manner

that I don't, I mean, I don't think would have ever worked.

And he gets up there and he blocks it and

nothing happens. He blocks it with his

body? No, he just, he just

stands there. Right? The window,

yes. I mean I didn't expect him to bring like curtains

and like a curtain rod, but like what the fuck?

Nothing. He brought nothing to do this with. No.

And what effect does him doing nothing have?

Nothing. Exactly.

You get all of the answers, right? Okay. So crazy.

Honestly, honestly, I missed the part. Why? He was climbing up

there, I looked up, all of a sudden I was taking notes, I looked up,

he's like spider walking up the wall and I'm like,

why is he going, why is he going up there? Why isn't Milo,

who's, you know, twelve years younger

doing it, then he gets up there and then, no, nothing happens because

they're getting ready to kill everybody. Oh, it's so good.

Yeah, it's really good. Sure, Milo tries to

shoot some people, has no effect. You know, Father Roche

is waving that crucifix around, it's, it's sort of having

an effect. Not really. Everyone's about to get sacrificed,

everyone's about to die. But then that's when our boy

Donald pleasant starts flinging the holy water around. That's right.

And all he double hockey sticks breaks out. Brad,

tell us about what happens to at the climactic,

climactic of this movie. I mean, the whole cult falls apart,

the holy water and there's a fire. And they

rescue whom they can.

And the Minotaur just. It collapses.

The whole. The whole place does. Comes down. Then there's a ridiculous

final scene where they're talking. Where they're talking about

fighting evil. Yep, yep. The Minotaur explodes.

The place falls down. We had great effects shots where.

Oh, sorry. Yes. They fill the

cloaks with chunks of meat and blow them up. It's almost

too fast to see anything. But yes, there's some. There's some bloody chunks flying.

Yes. And it's the most unexpected thing in this film.

I rewound it and we watched it again because it's. They just

start exploding. It's so overwhelming. This whole movie is overwhelming.

Was the Minotaur keeping them alive? We don't know.

Maybe. We don't know. Maybe they've been alive for thousands

of years. Who knows? They were all Greek.

I mean, they're carpathian Greek. Carpathian Greek.

I don't think it's a thing. And then the closing credits

has the most bonkers freaking song playing. Yes.

It's Paul Williams. Like, is that Paul Williams? Are you serious?

I am dead serious. Holy shit.

I, uh. Because this song is completely crazy.

I liked it on YouTube. It's called the Devil's Men. Paul Williams.

And so what I should have done, I meant to go back

because in the beginning it says music vibe

ryano. And then it's got song sung.

Bye, Paul Williams. But I didn't read who wrote the song,

if it was Paul Williams or if it was somebody else. But it's a banger.

Yeah. Yes. Music by Carl Jenkins and lyrics

by Carol Ann Barrott. This song is like

sort of prog rocky, sort of, for lack of a better term,

glam rock. But if Paul Williams is involved, of course it's gonna be

nuts because he always brings the craziness. Yeah. I went straight

to YouTube. Find it, father of life.

Before we talk about how we feel about this movie, we have maybe

a little bit of training trivia, but we're definitely going to talk about the

crew behind this thing. I express apologies

for my ignorance. I don't know the greek films

that are referenced here. I have not seen a lot of greek films,

and I definitely have not seen, like, anything that these

other actors have been in. So, of course, if I don't mention some

of the greek producers of the film, it's because I just don't recognize anything

that they've done, not to belittle them. Right. But first

up, we've got a producer, Herbert G.

Luft. He's an associate producer on this movie. Along with

the greek people who bankrolled this beauty.

He produced the mutations, which I

don't know if you've seen this. Another Donald pleasence vehicle. Yeah, I don't.

It's one of those that I might have seen as a kid. I've had to

see it now and see if I remembered it. I can't remember.

It's pretty interesting. I watched it on good old Joe Bob

and enjoyed it. I don't know if I'd ever watch it again, though.

Gotcha. Worth a look. Nick Morrison,

he was the executive producer on this. He also executive

produced a classic mystery science theater

3000 film called Mitchell from just a

year or two before this. I shame,

shamefully admit I've still never watched the Mitchell

episode of MST three k. That is a very key episode.

I just have not gotten to it yet. Nice. But Brad's

been chomping in the bit, and he's about this one. Music by

Brian Eno. Brad, what is up with this emo eno man?

So I guess probably earlier in the show.

I hope Mark hasn't been fuming the whole whole show.

Brian Eno then is not Brian Eno now,

obviously. Correct. So correct. It's well within

the realm of possibility that he could do a soundtrack for

a low budget horror film. Yes. So he had been in Roxy

music and was kind of. He was the keyboardist and did treatments and whatnot.

And then he broke away for a solo career. He released

here come the warm Jetse. Yes.

Which is a really groundbreaking album.

It's glamrock, but it's the most. It's. It's.

It's just different. Experimental. Yeah, very experimental.

He went on to make. Had like four, quote unquote, pop albums

in the seventies. See, second album had third uncle, which was covered

by Bauhaus, mother whale, eyeless.

Anyway. I like that one. Yes. So he is

a very seminal figure in glamrock

and ambient. He pretty much. I wouldn't say he invented

it, but he certainly popularized ambient music.

He went on to be a producer, produced for the Talking Heads.

I believe he produced some u two. He produced

a lot of people. I'm sure. I'm leaving it out. Yeah. Kind of hitting the

high notes. So he's. He's very much on the technological edge

as well. So very, very important

music guy. And the soundtrack for this is fantastic.

It's. It's really good. I have an

opposite feeling. Okay. I love Brian

Eno. I love Brian Eno this period.

I do not like this score, I believe it's cool.

Yeah. And effective for making me

uneasy. Okay. However, he didn't

make enough music for this movie. There's no

songs. Yeah. Right. There's no melody. Right. There's.

There's percussive, you know, like.

And, you know, melody can be.

You could say that the staccato, breathy stuff he's doing is,

like a type of melody. But, like, I. I jumped over

to the Brian eno of Dario Argento's

opera just for my fun brain to listen to.

And that is, like, the most pop film score

stuff ever. Because even though it's spooky and strange,

Briano, it all has a melody that will stick

with you. Sure. Whereas this feels like I'm

gonna name drop the nerdiest shit right here. There's a composer

named Elian Redige. I don't know how

to say her name. A lot of the stuff she's doing is

that Brian Enos doing. Reminds me of her stuff.

And her stuff is very difficult music.

Like, it's unsettling and hypnotic

is the best thing I can say about it. And that is exactly

what Brian Enos is doing here. It's very hypnotic, but it

also makes me upset. I gotcha. And I just wanted

more. I just. I was like. And this was, like, his second film

score ever. I was gonna say this might be one of his very,

very earliest. Absolutely. What he did

do in this, I think, is, like you said, very effective because

it helps build tension. He's really good at that.

Oh, yeah. Yes. But I get what you're saying. As far

as Melody. I know exactly what you're saying. Hey,

I like how we both had a totally different feeling about it.

That's freaking great. Yes. It's rare, but we're both Brian Eno.

We're both. Yeah. And we're both eno nerds. I love it. I do enjoy

Brian eno. Scott Curtis bought me here

come the warm jets for my birthday.

Great record. You mailed me your cds. Do you

remember this? I do, yeah, they were there. You sent me a.

They were remastered first. His first four albums.

You mailed them to me all the way here to Tampa. And I burned

them and sent them back to you. And I still listen to those mp3

s all the time. Heck, yes. I'm glad. No,

I do remember, because they were. Was all you could get.

Yep. You know, was that the only remastered set? I don't know

if they've remastered it since. Who knows, you know?

Several reissues later. Right. Cinematography was

by Ari Stavrou. He shot the hook, the aforementioned

not so great greek giallo, which is

just one of those. Yeah. My husband's rich, and you're

my lover. Kill him. Don't like

it. The production company, one of the production companies was Getty

Pictures. They did the mutations. So probably the production

company of that luft guy. But this was

released on Interglobal Home Video,

which is a label that released the Asfix,

which. I've never seen that. Have you seen the asphyx? I have seen the asphyx.

I've always wanted to see it. I've just never gotten to it. It was a

long time ago. It stars Robert Powell.

Powell. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Robert Powell.

And it was an odd movie. It was. It was an interesting premise.

I felt like it was odd. But it's been so long, I I

could probably have a much different opinion now.

It was a long time ago, but, yeah. Having to do with photographs

and capturing your last. I can't remember exactly how it

went. Your last moment, I think. Do what? Before you croak?

Yeah. The last moment before somebody died. You could catch the Aztecs

on in a photo. Yeah. It's crazy.

Name as Fix. It's the greatest metal band that ever was.

It really is. They also released Sisters of Death.

They released Asylum man. They released

a giallo. A giallo under its blade of the Ripper

title. Do you know which Giallo is

called? Blade of the Ripper. What's what? The more common title

for that one. Strange vice misses Ward. Boom.

Exactly. Boom. On us and giall y'all.

That's all the. That's all. That's fun stuff.

Trivia. Did we have any trivia? I don't

think I've got any trivia. According to IMDb.

So resourceful tonight, Donald pleasence was supposed

to play the baron, but he only agreed to do the film

if he could play Father Roche because he was tired of playing villains.

Oh, nice. And Peter Cushing supposedly filmed his scenes

in one week. I would argue it probably took less time than that.

I would say. And this is where I found out that Myra

was Myra Shore, Donald pleasence's wife. Wow.

I will have to tell Elizabeth. She's gonna love that because

she's never. Gonna listen to this.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. She only listens to us. Yes. All right,

well, how do you feel about the devil's men?

Listen. I loved it. Not only did I love

it, Elizabeth loved it. It is. We watched it late

Saturday night, and it is a great late Saturday night movie.

When it's just one of those, it's.

It's an open book. There's no mystery, but things just dreamily

kind of wander on. It's very, very atmospheric.

I look forward to already, to seeing it again. It reminded

me of several different things. It reminded me of,

like I talked about, like a Paul Nashi film in a way,

certain aspects of it. It also obviously

has got kind of a wicker man vibe to it, in a way, kind of,

sort of. But then it also reminded me, in its

kind of meandering way of a film that I really enjoy

called Crypt of the Living Dead or Hannah

Queen of the Vampires. It's one of those dreamy,

you know, it just kind of flows along. And some of.

Some have accused it of being boring, and I know some have accused

this of being boring or nonsensical. I think it

works really well from a perspective of just,

you know, a story being told, but you

pretty much know what's going to happen. I mean, even if there had been

some mystery, I suppose, about Peter Cushing, you know,

Peter Cushing's behind it, maybe they just threw away the pretenses

and just said, hey, we're going to tell you right out the. Out of the

gate who the villains are, because you've seen movies before.

You know who it is. Yes. But no, I think

everybody did a really good job as far as Peter

Cushing and Donald pleasence. His irish accent kind of comes and goes.

Pleasant's. Yes, he loved doing that accent.

Yeah. But no, I'm really glad we watched it. I'm proud that

I, that I've got the, uh, the indicator Blu ray. I think it's

probably would be best recommended to folks

who are euro horror veterans that

maybe have, have seen everything else, but maybe didn't see this

because of its reputation. I don't think everybody's gonna like

it. I wanted, I wanted to cover it from work, but I also

really wanted to see it and, you know, see what I thought of it myself.

I actually owned it. It came with terror, the Norman

J. Warren's terror. It was a double feature dvd,

so I owned it on dvd for forever. But we

just never watched it because I'd heard it wasn't that good. But Mark's mentioned

it several times and I dug it, man.

It's kind of unintentionally hilarious at times and

intentionally hilarious, but it's all presented

in just this strange village,

this atmospheric village, essentially. Yeah. You know,

so, yeah, I really dug it. Cool. This was my first viewing

in probably 15 to 16 years.

I watched it for the 1976 movie Thon. As we talked about,

I said it was boring, but also too weird

to be boring. Hmm. Saturday night, when I took notes on

this, I was exhausted. I don't recommend watching this movie

when you're tired. Right. Do not. Do not take notes on this movie

when you're tired. I barely got. I could barely

read anything I wrote. It was miserable. I was. I needed to go

to bed and watch it the next day, but I pushed through, so my

opinion of it had kind of slipped a little. And then I

had it playing in the background all day today. And I

laughed and had so much fun. And I realized that

if you're in a good mood and you're awake, this movie is a riot because

you're trying to figure out what is going on. One of the funniest things

in the movie is they go to this funeral for

one of these people who's been killed in town, and they sense

some shenanigans are going on. So Milo and Roche run off to go do

their thing, and Laurie's like, wait, wait, wait. What should I do?

And Milo says to her, keep your eyes peeled for any

more funerals.

Then they leave. And I

burst out laughing. Like, what? What did that even

mean? And so there's a joke. There's actually a joke in this movie.

Goofy acting. Donald Pleasant's accent,

like you talked about. Our hero has the wacky swagger.

He's such a dick, but he's so weird,

and you can't take your eyes off him. The wide

eyed actors faces looking confused.

The. The awkward silences we talked about. Yes.

It is a movie that goes back and forth

and back and forth. Like, the movie would be shorter if they cut out some

of the back and forth because the back and forth accomplishes nothing.

But that's the only detriment if you had to pin

something down. And then I think Brian Eno should have made more music

for this movie instead of depending on, like, the four

pieces he did. It feels like only, like, four pieces to me.

Could be. It could be more than that. I might be remembering it wrong,

but that's it. Other than those two things, I think this movie's great.

Heck, yeah. I recommend it. I really do. Yeah.

I think it was a lot of fun. It's the it. There's a lot of

ramshackle charm to it.

Yes. So I

got some. Brad, I heard you have it. Yeah, I heard you have a segment.

Yep. So I'm gonna do something that we have not done on this show in

a long time. And that is, I am going

to read the land of the Minotaur entry

in terror on tape. Oh, shit.

Wow. Cushing is a carpathian baron

living on a greek island where he heads up a cult that sacrifices

beach blonde babes in hot pants to

a huge, fire breathing Minotaur statue.

Originally titled the Devil's men, this prettily photographed

but dull british greek co production is

buoyed by a dapper Peter, an amusing pleasance

as a heroic priest, and an eerie Brian Eno

score. Wow. So that's,

that's high praise for two stars. Yeah, that's what I was thinking

too. But also not to leave anyone with a mere

two star. Review from Wikipedia.

Chris Alexander of Fangoria fame. It says,

praising the suffocating ambiance and dreamlike atmosphere,

as well as Brian Enos electronic score, Chris Alexander argues

that the film is underrated. Make no mistake, it's a lowbrow

exploitation film, but it's one that's filtered through a very

stylized art house sensibility. Don't be swayed

by the negative mainstream reviews and general fanboy

silence. So, I mean,

awesome. You know, Chris Alexander, I'm sure he, I don't

know if people like him or don't like him or whatever. As far as,

like, Fangoria goes, I have no idea. But I do know that,

uh, he's not just mainstream horror, because I've seen him on like,

extras for your old horror films, and I've seen him blurbs

and things. So, uh, I always like

it when somebody takes up for a film like this. Hey.

A common theme between both of those is that we didn't talk about how beautiful

this movie shot. I mean, it really. All the locations. Yes. We didn't

talk about the castle and the grounds of the village and just

like how everything is so beautifully shot,

really. So there's points for there. Yeah. And there's the whole

thing. It's just, you could wring the atmosphere out of the whole movie.

Even if, even if you think something is silly or whatnot, it is

still, it is a, it's a british greek co

production from the mid six seventies, you know,

so it still carries that particular vibe.

Anyway. What, you know, whether good or bad, which it's

typically good. The older I get, the more my tastes have shifted.

Where I keep a lot of movies that have boring parts.

Like the whole movie isn't boring, it just has

a boring section. Like deadly Manor,

that movie has a lot of rambling back and forth

kind of boring bits howling three. As crazy as howling

three is, it has this like, hey, you know what? Let's go on. Walk about.

You know, we got time. You know, it's. So if a movie has that energy

that hooks me, I can hang with it. If they intentionally

run out of stuff to do and still have to fill the 95

minutes or 89 minutes or. Whatever, well, let me.

Let me tell you how stupid I am. So let's

hear it. Many, many years ago, for my birthday, Elizabeth bought me

the prowler on dvd. The blue underground dvd.

Yeah. And we had never seen it,

so, uh, we watched it,

and she had also bought me another film that I didn't care for.

So we watched the prowler, and I'm like, that was the most

meandering film I've ever seen. They wander around that house for, like,

three quarters of the film, it seems like.

And I was just. I was like that. I. That was just

a b movie, you know? Yeah. And then.

And then I don't know what happened. Maybe we watched it two or three more

times. I just finally clicked, and I'm like,

how stupid am I? I love this, but everything about this,

this is so. I mean, I. I've got two prowler t shirts,

so nice. But I just completely changed.

Changed the way I felt about it, and I don't feel that.

I don't feel that way about it all. Feel stupid that I did.

So, yeah, you change. That's like me and Norman

J. Warren's terror, where I thought terror sucked. Yeah,

it was dumb. And now I love terror.

It's a classic. Yes. I mean, you and I covered that,

I think, before it had a blu ray. Yep. Had a dvd.

Yeah. We've covered some great movies over the years.

It's. It's quite a career. And,

you know, we get $500 for every episode, so just

think how rich we are. Who. Who is our new sponsor?

The sponsor is $500 per episode.com.

I knew you're a consummate show. And slipping in the

name of our sponsor into conversation

like that, I have. Consummated with a few showmen

in my time. The blue shoes thing didn't work out,

did it? No. So,

folks,

before I let Brad escape this plane of podcasting

existence, we pick a recently seen

and loved film. It can be any genre,

it can be a first time watch, or it can be

an old favorite. Brad, do you have anything for us today?

Yes. I'm gonna tell you the one that I meant

to tell you last week. And then whenever these come out, years apart,

you'll have to do some detecting to figure out when we recorded

these. The thundering sword, Shaw Brothers film.

It is very much a Romeo and Juliet wuxia

film. I don't want to say wuxia because it reads that way,

probably, but, no, it was great. The star,

I always get her. I always say her name wrong, so I won't change.

Pei pei. I did it anyway. She has two roles, two different

roles in it. It was so good. I loved it.

I thought it was fantastic. I watched that.

Yes, you would. It was great. Awesome.

What have you seen lately? Well, I think I texted you when I

was watching it, which watched Scott Pilgrimage.

Yes, sir. The. The good old Scott Pilgrim

versus the world film, a movie I've seen many

times, and I just busted it out because we needed something to watch.

It's like a come down film from a stressful week. It's perfect.

Perfect. We were just talking about Scott Pilgrim the other day,

Elizabeth and I. We haven't seen it in a while, and it's time.

Oh, yeah. That's all I got, man. That's all I've got.

Thanks, Mark, for being such a good friend of the show. Uh, we really mean

that, Mark. Hit me up, man. I hope we didn't embarrass

him. I hope we didn't know.

Did. Right? Did the film, right? Yeah,

exactly. Mark, email me. Dude, I haven't heard from you in a while.

So, folks, thanks for listening. Hope you're well.

We're sorry if we made you unwell with our sexy ass voices.

That's right. Just pull over, Mandy. Mm hmm.

Don't be shy.

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