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Gav: The podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing.

Dan: I am the devil, and I am here to do the devil's work.

Dan: So there's my con.

Dan: Be one of us.

Dan: It is time to keep your

Gav: Hello and welcome to the

Gav: Haunted Hill Episode 189. His name is Dan.

Gav: You were a little slow at getting into it.

Gav: I know, I know, my I didn't give me any c clue of any sort of format, my brain freestyles out of it.

Gav: Hi everybody.

Dan: Hello everybody.

Dan: Is your first time listening?

Gav: Welcome back.

Dan: Welcome friend.

Gav: Oh yeah.

Dan: If you're a regular listener.

Dan: Welcome back.

Gav: Yes.

Dan: partial to the show here and there. Let's pop round the side.

Dan: That's one of her old jokes.

Gav: It is an old joke, it feels like an old joke now. Sorry.

Gav: engendered. Uh

Dan: Vampires, werewolves, universal monsters.

Gav: Bigfoot.

Dan: Everything of the animal kingdom.

Gav: Uh sorry, apologies, we've not been here.

Gav: We we uh wanted to be here but we just couldn't be here for a little bit, which we'll get on to soon. Um uh but it's lovely to be back again. Um me and Dan are very very excited for this episode. So um Dan, how are you? Are you alright?

Dan: I'm good thank you, yeah. Not too bad. Better than I was. Um

Gav: Absolutely.

Dan: Yes, we're returning with uh just one movie and we'll talk more about we may have shifted the format of the show and we'll talk about that in a moment. We're only covering one film and what better film to return to podcasting with than one that we believe it or not we haven't covered and that is

Dan: The return of the li-

Dan: Dead from 1985. A movie that we both love, spoiler alert. Cannot believe we haven't covered it in 12 years of podcasting. So yeah, we're we're only going to be talking about that movie, but we have got a lot to catch up on because we've been away for five months.

Dan: So we're gonna be talking about lots of stuff that we've watched over the last five months between us. Just in you know, not in great detail, but we'll just c catch you guys up on what we've been watching.

Dan: him and also because this is the first episode of the year technically um we have got the time machine dusted off gal

Gav: It needed a new fuse. The batteries had run down in the into the cockpit. Some wiring had to be

Gav: Some birds and shit on it. Uh uh loads of stuff had happened, you know.

Dan: I had to get um Christopher Lloyd around here to uh tap fiddle with my flex capacitor.

Gav: I had to get a new vanilla magic tree for it.

Dan: Yeah. But it's all up and running. Um so we'll we'll be hopping back in time to check out the year that was twenty twenty five.

Gav: Did want to say to you though, the toy that is a little iffy. Uh if you're gonna flush it, just give it a good good yank down. It should go.

Dan: There is no toilet in this home machine. That's my coffee. Have you been shitting in my coffee maker?

Gav: your percolator.

Dan: Yes, that's what I use to make coffee while I'm travelling in time.

Dan: I'll see you like that.

Gav: Oh um

Dan: So um well let's let's let's catch everybody up on what's happened and where we've been. So apologies like you say, Gav for the hiatus.

Gav: I just note very quickly, um, uh this doesn't matter to anybody at all because they're listening to it in any sort of climate they are. But w Madan and I are right now um in in very hot circumstances.

Dan: It's very

Gav: It's not the police are not after us, but I mean we are it we are just at hot. It's it's the middle it's not even the middle of summer at all. It isn't at all. It's like not even the summer. It's the end of spring.

Dan: We're just having a shit.

Gav: It.

Dan: We're having a heat wave in the United Kingdom at the moment. Which is nice because we've had a lot of rain.

Gav: But uh so you might hear odd car passing in the distance, but most windows are shut um and I'm doing that for

Gav: For you guys.

Dan: He's got his shirt off, as always.

Gav: Um uh yeah, uh it's really good to be back. Um uh the void we have left you, uh we hope we can now over and fill those holes.

Gav: tightly and make you all happy and have your voids totally filled in which was without us. Now you will be with us.

Gav: Thank you patrons for sticking with us as well. We massively appreciated that. That is fucking you know, thank you so much. That's a that tells us that you guys uh kick ass and uh uh uh what does it do? Kung Fu for the Lord and kick ass. Kick ass for the lord.

Dan: Yes.

Gav: I don't know if you're king as a lord, but you like to make the channel podcast. So that's good.

Dan: Thank you. Yes so thank you to everybody uh who's stuck with us and especially thank you to everybody who's reached out to me.

Dan: um and sent me metal messages, multiple messages some of you. For anybody that doesn't know, and I'm I'm okay to talk about this now, uh unfortunately lost my dad on Boxing Day of 2025 very unexpectedly.

Dan: Uh probably still in shock to be honest with you, um, because he was a very big, strong, healthy man. Um turns out he wasn't, but um as far as we all knew, he was. So uh that was a strange end to the Christmas period.

Dan: Yeah, so that's where we've been. I just haven't been able to pull myself out of that sort of

Dan: whole as it were. I I'm okay, uh I'm cracking on, you know I i I thought it would be similar to losing my mum seven years ago, but it's a very different grief because this was completely out of the blue and unexpected.

Dan: Um I took two months off of work. They were very supportive with me. Um, partly because I've got we've got a lot to sort out because he's he was my last parent obviously, so I've got all the estate and everything to sort out. Um but also partly just because it was

Dan: Sad and weird time. Um, trying to support the kids and my wife, and then be supported by them. Um, so that's where I've been, um, but I'm okay.

Dan: Um and I do appreciate I've had multiple messages, like I say, from our listeners, our supporters, people on Facebook and especially our patrons, lots of you patrons have been reaching out to me and saying there's no rush, take your time.

Dan: Um I did post up a couple of things on Facebook. Gradually got myself back into not just podcasting but just watching films because um and I know this is a subject you wanna talk about in a moment, Gav, because

Dan: My dad was the one that got me into film as much as I am. Me and him would often have trivia offs.

Dan: as it were, about films and, you know, he got me into Bruce Lee and

Dan: uh horror like John Carpenter and and stuff like that. In fact, I thought about this the other day, if it wasn't for my dad, my son wouldn't be called Jack, because as we all know, Jack is named after Jackie Cham. Um so yeah.

Gav: And and the the podcasting wise, you didn't really want to sort of spend time talking about movies'cause you did it with your father so much as well, so

Dan: Yeah, and it it just felt like I didn't know if it was a a hurdle I could get over straight away. Certainly not straight away.

Gav: That you could emotionally break on air, you know.

Gav: Obviously, you know, it's fucking rubbish and you know, you had my support for the whole thing.

Dan: You did. You've been amazing. Uh you and a couple of our close friends, but you and and one or two other people especially have been amazing with me and I love you for that.

Gav: Oh, sorry, uh like I said I'm selfish, I do it because I I I need uh to have supported back when it can't time comes, unfortunately. Um

Gav: And um that's what we have to be. We have to be there for everybody. Um so um in speaking of which, do you give uh any uh words of advice to anyone that might be going through this in uh could you

Gav: Uh I know obvious I know obviously you're still grieving and you always will do. Um

Dan: I think I would say talk about it. As a as um we the part of the reason I'm back doing this now is my wife said, You and Galf are such advocates for men's mental health. It's important that you get back out there and talk about it. So I think mm talk about it.

Dan: Is one thing I would say.

Gav: You and I doing this podcast when we spend hours talking to each other for this, we obviously do it for the listeners, but w at the end of the day if you didn't have listeners we'd do we would probably still do it. Um because we have mental health it helps us talking like this. So talking definitely helps.

Dan: Yeah, t so talk about it, talk about your feelings. Don't be afraid to cry. I'm a big crier anyway, so that's fine. Um and

Dan: Nothing will no day no two days will be alike, is what I would say. And I sort of mean that both in terms of losing both parents seven years apart, very different types of grief. But also there could be days

Dan: you know, very close to losing him. A week or two later I was sort of laughing and happy and then six weeks later I'd have two or three days where I just

Dan: didn't want to get out of bed and I was very upset, you know, and and I've also had anger, um j just just all the m the emotions really. Um so I just say go with it.

Dan: ride the wave, but the most important thing really is just know that it everything you feel is normal.

Gav: Uh

Dan: Um but if you if talking to your friends and family isn't doing it, then by all means go professional. I haven't, but there's no shame in that.

Dan: you know, a lot of people these days speak to people, therapists, etcetera. Go go professional if you need it.'Cause they and I probably should and maybe I could do and maybe I still might one day. But um

Gav: You could even if it's just one or two sessions.

Dan: Indeed, indeed. But that's where I've been, and we're back. I'm back.

Gav: Yeah, totally. I am gonna say if you can, but it's it's kinda a bit like depression though, isn't it really? Um

Gav: Uh you can't control it um with especially depression you definitely don't want to do much. If though you're going through anything and but you have a day when you're actually like able to do things, I really do recommend the gym.

Gav: Or exercising um for mental health as well. Um I think I find it very good. Uh lifting weights I find really good. It's a very

Dan: No.

Gav: Okay.

Dan: Just a big

Gav: Um uh I find that just lifting weights stuff like the pure focus on that and it is um it's a a thing you have to get through um and that you can use it as a metaphor as well. But yes, um if you can. But yes, thank you Dan and I um everybody uh loves you to bit.

Gav: We are all here, we all support you, we are all here.

Gav: The sun is shining.

Dan: We are. And did you wanna quickly talk about something that's happened to you recently as well? Um

Gav: Yeah, my yeah, my uh my uncle uh passed away a couple of weeks ago. He was um um my mum's brother.

Gav: Um, he was the person that got me into films. He was a film projectionist, um, as his job was when we went to pick up the death certificate the other day and that's all the information.

Gav: He um uh and he got me into films. Um I used to go around to his house when I was a little kid and he had all the big Warner Brother video tapes which is I think would reason I saw collect those ones, like the big rounded ones.

Gav: Uh yeah, the only ones of any interest he had because even at that point when I was a kid, I must have been about ten, I was into already into f film collecting, ho horror movies already.

Gav: Like I was already into it, it's like Lost Boys, uh my collection Fry Night, you know. And I went there and I remember the only ones in his co I was oh, it's the some Doctor Who's. That was the closest he got to horror and I was like, God, got it

Dan: The only one I've really got is um Enter the Dragon, an X Rental big box.

Gav: Nice, the Warner Brothers one, yeah?

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: Oh man, that's a good one. I don't have that. That's a good one.

Dan: I've got that. That was one of my dads, actually.

Gav: I'll have to have a look.

Dan: In fact, I think I've got a couple of Bruce Lee ones. I might even have um the big boss like that as well I think. I bought them all for X Rental.

Gav: the five or six previously films in the box uh okay in the case

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: Uh but yes, so um rest in peace to your father and my uncle.

Dan: Yeah, indeed.

Gav: Um uh yeah, but he got me into films and um yeah, so uh I'm possibly going around tomorrow to pick up his film collection'cause he wanted me to have it.

Dan: And that's really sweet.

Gav: Um it's I'll go through it but it's gonna be some really random I I'd say noirs. I don't have to say noirs, they're kind of n I don't know what they are.

Gav: I'll have to figure out what these films are, but I d I don't know. I'll hopefully find some bits and bobs that share.

Gav: Rydyn ni'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n mynd.

Dan: It's interesting that um you and I o often share similar parallel life journeys and we both have have obviously lost people close to us who got us into films recently, which is very strange.

Dan: Um but like you say, we're back now, so we can talk about a few bits and bobs and then we'll get into what we've been watching. Um Gaff, did you want to talk about Deadbolt's latest project, Dead Deadbolt films?

Gav: Yeah, well, since last year, because we went to a podcast this year, and we...

Dan: Yeah, that's great.

Gav: We started a debug films. We're doing at the moment uh it's got about a week and a half left of the end of May, is where we're at now.

Gav: Um if you're listening to this. Um if you'd like to fund us or just have a look at look look at what is on Crowdfunder uh Baited, you can just type that into Crowdfunder and you'll find it or baited movie. Um we're doing like a found footage movie. It's about pedophile hunters.

Gav: Um

Gav: Basically something going wrong for them at the beginning, uh an accident happens and then they like they all give up. Uh then a year later they realise that they can get a big fish, they can get one last

Gav: one last uh person that they wanted to get so they all get back together and they decide to follow this person.

Gav: Um and they follow into a house and then they go into the house and uh stuff happens. I but I'm not gonna say it'cause I don't wanna say. But um it's very it goes into descent into hell.

Gav: um, basically when they go into the house. And it's gonna be a cool horror movie. It's a fountain footage film, but it's not gonna be just as like the average found footage film we've shooting it on our red camera um and it will be like real p polished and very nice looking

Gav: Um, and it'd be different body cams in the c in the house, walking around and stuff and different things going on. But it's a really cool story as well.

Gav: Um, I don't know if you've read it or not, I'm not sure. Um but it's a really cool story. I don't want to get into it too much'cause it's a spoiler. But we are actually at the moment crowdfunding that for just at the moment, um five thousand pounds we've got to our target.

Gav: Um it stood on for a little bit more. Any more can help us, that's good. Th that isn't the budget of the film. That's just getting us going. Uh we need uh we've got some other investors we're going to just get the rest of the move money for the movie. I'm not sure what the budget's gonna be yet.

Gav: It's not a huge one, we just need to get going. It's so hard to make films. There's so many people out there. Every f imp independent filmmaker, the p hardest problem for everybody is getting funding. There's no it's d no money. It's just not out there. Um So you have to do it.

Dan: Especially this time, this sort of time in our j our lives.

Gav: No, it's really not. It's really, really not. Even like big good like big films and stuff are not being made for the same reason. Um so um

Gav: It goes back to my DIY way of filmmaking anyway, it's just do it yourself. Um so we're doing that. But the thing is though, we ca we can only you have to pay an actor, um you have to pay actors, you have to feed them, you you ultimately you have to have insurance.

Gav: Turned on to have the lights on. We've got most of the equipment luckily already.

Gav: But we still have to pay the actors and if you want a good job done we have to pay people. And then you've got a b a location, we have to rent out a location. All this shit costs money. But we can still do it for probably about

Gav: But I think if we did it with none of us getting paid, which I think might be going away if like we just do it for free. Um probably about thirty grand I think.

Gav: So it's not like a big thing, it's a foul footage movie, but we can still do a really decent job on that. Um we have asked we haven't had an answer yet, we have asked um a certain actor, um but I won't say to be in it.

Dan: Nicholas Cage.

Gav: Uh no, it's because I did ask someone else and they said no and I said, you'll be good for running off and I'm like, I don't mean

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Ha ha ha!

Gav: Sorry

Dan: That's not a pedophile is definitely Kevin Bacon. He's played three or four paedops in his career, so

Gav: The th the thing is though, because of the nature of it, it's not essentially it it's not might not be a paedophone. I don't want to give the story away. So like you know, uh it could be something else. So that's where we're out of it. Um so it's kind of hard. But yeah, it's it's a quite a bit of a

Gav: I would say it's a boo subject but it's not. It's all in your face all the time and all these Peterville hunters and pedophiles and all this sort of stuff.

Dan: Yeah, it's always on Facebook and stuff, but

Gav: All the time and all so it's quite relevant really. It's just when you say to people, Making a movie about Peter van Hartner's it sounds to sir but

Gav: But at at the end of the day the film itself doesn't actually go down the lines of children's stuff. We don't see anything. There's n it the basically they're not even really a a part of the film, if that makes sense.

Dan: It's a it's a taboo subject. It's a taboo subject, but horror horror horror films do like to cover taboo subjects. I can't think of many that cover that kind of thing other than maybe hard candy and Orphan. Orphan isn't even really like that.

Dan: But um hard candy is is definitely like one.

Gav: It's quite a different film, um had quite a bit of interest. Uh Ben went out to Cannes Film Festival for a week, uh last week.

Gav: And he was out there promoting that and his short film The Tellin which we've pretty much finished. Um so it's good we've got some things going but we need to make this film first so we can then go on to make a an actual proper movie.

Gav: Uh I say proper movies intraditional. I don't I'm not dissing found footage in any way, I love found footage.

Gav: Um that's why I'm doing it. This would be my third found footage feature when it comes down to it. Um but uh this time I can do it with all the Deadbolt guys, um and we've not all done it together before. Um so it'd be really cool to see what done. We've done lots of short films.

Gav: all together so we know how to work together but having us all doing a feature would be pretty cool

Dan: And also it'd be nice to step out of the um phone footage uh genre just because you're freer, those are less constraints.

Gav: This one, I mean, is like we've never it'd be nice to do this one. This is foul footage though. This one. But yeah, next time

Dan: Afterwards.

Gav: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We d yeah, I've got I've got something which can be made very, very cheaply, which is a exploration into sound.

Gav: um about uh sound recorders going out to the woods and just hearing a sound and him going, Oh and just just going f more and more into the woods and I was like, I can do a real experimental sound movie.

Gav: shot in the woods. Um so I wanna make that next. But I don't know, we've got loads of ideas. So but yeah we need to get going with it. Um it's you know.

Gav: Yes.

Dan: That's Deadbolt News. Um, I've got two bits to talk about, and then it's time to talk about what we've been watching for the last five months. Well, go on, have you got your hand up?

Gav: Go. I do that for now on. I have to do that with all the kids and that round around there'cause everyone talks at the same time'cause everyone's got fucking ADHD and no one can they keep it in, they have to do it, otherwise they forget it. And it's just like oh my god, so I just sit there with my hand up going, just remembering what I need to say, remember what I need to say.

Gav: The High Strangers Podcaster. Um we have um essentially stopped the main feed. Um Sarah and I decided to kind of give it up but

Gav: But we know in the future we'd like to do the odd episode and then get back to it at a later date. So I do apologise for you listeners out there uh on that, but we have been doing the extra, extra when we can, which seems to be like once a month. And it's kind of easier for Sarah

Gav: Because she's spending a lot of time doing research and she was struggling with just living uh with work and time management and everything and it's just not possible. So sorry about that. Um

Dan: Poor Gav had no podcasting to do for several months.

Gav: Podcast and I've been like Right I need to start my own podcast. Now it wasn't in a negative rate to you guys. I was just like, Right, I need to do my own podcast and I was like, Right and so I was I started writ I wrote out a few episodes to do. I was gonna do the video shop which is gonna be my YouTube channel eventually where I do a

Gav: uh uh of which is the plan is to do a um little YouTube shop uh where it's basic Didding you go in and it's a video shop and it's Hi, welcome and then I recommend a video tape from my video collection.

Gav: I plan on doing that. Or actually I think I'll do Blu-rays and DVDs as well. Do you know what I mean? Um I plan on doing that. So I did think oh I could actually do that as an audio one. So I did actually work out uh to do like a solo

Gav: the video shop podcast to start doing that then introducing to the video. So at some point I might do it because something I can do whenever I I'm free to do it myself.

Gav: But I do like bouncing back and forth podcasting with like with you.

Dan: It is fun. It is fun. Um Okay, cool. So, uh a couple of bits to talk about before we get into what we've been watching. First of all, this is your annual

Dan: um, announcement. All you listeners out there, the heat is on, as they say.

Dan: Get out your Texas Changel Massacre, your copy of Joel's, uh all your hot summer movies.

Gav: I started watching Joel the other day, Spielberg's Jewel, and I was like, oh yeah, this is a well hot movie. The whole time the guy's just w wiping his brow.

Dan: And even Return of the Living Dead is a very hot movie.

Gav: Not of the big heat, not of the heat.

Gav: I always say the name wrong. But um I love that movie. I need to get a copy of my collection.

Dan: So make sure you you're watching all your hot movies.

Gav: Tony, I've been buying lots of movies actually. I've been buying lots of um uh recently on eBay. I'm gonna put up my ebay and just say w randomly what I've bought recently.

Gav: Um I just wanted to start getting my Blu ray collection like like the DVDs like they're fine but it's just like I wanna start getting like the ones I really love on Blu-ray and I'm I've been selling loads of

Gav: um uh vinyl and I've been making making all right money with it and it's on our ebay and I was like, Fuck it, I'm just gonna start buying some of my um

Gav: Buying some uh buying some films. So uh on Blu-ray, Commando Nice. Uh uh this is just a movie I just saw and I bought it anyway. The watch. I quite like the watch.

Dan: Oh yes, yes, I have seen it. It's a bit like an American version of um Um It's one of the dad style but with Indy.

Gav: Kind of. I uh the first time I watched it I I thought I don't really like this one and then

Gav: on prime repeat view and so I really enjoy this movie to the point where I'm like I might have to say to you like we're gonna do the watch. Um The Wolfman, the two thousand and ten run. Um I actually quite like that film and I thought Blu-ray um The Howlin, the original one Blu-ray, got a really nice box for it as well.

Gav: as well. Uh Ghost Stories, I thought I'd pick up on Blu-ray. Uh The Green Marl.

Gav: And um haunted honeymoon.

Dan: Oh baby.

Gav: That was a tenner. That was the most expensive one.

Dan: Well that's quite rare to find, what did Honeymoon? I mean we covered that uh a long time ago for a Gene Wilder special.

Gav: Do you know what? Here we go then. I remember when we covered that, when we covered that, when the time I watched it during the notes, I was just going through my breakout of my marriage.

Gav: Yeah.

Gav: And I struggled, really struggled, and I loved that movie as a kid. I love that movie so much, but I struggled when we did the review and me doing the notes for it because at the point I was just in a very low place. And I hadn't seen it until uh

Gav: about three weeks ago it was I I put the D V on I was like fuck I'm gonna watch that again. Loved it so much. I was like, oh I love this film so much. So I was like Blue Rain again I'm blue right and I'm watching it again and I'cause I j I put out my life because I watched it at a point when I was really low.

Gav: So that wasn't i that was to me a flag of being low. So I couldn't walk I d do you know what I mean?

Dan: Yeah, I like that. Weird.

Gav: Weird.

Dan: Well, talking of film collections, I've got some tragic news.

Gav: I know.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: I've got a an external hand. Oh. an external hard drive two terabyte.

Dan: With

Gav: That's like they're opposite to a small penis, an extended.

Dan: Terrible. It's got thousands of films on it.

Dan: It's got it's got every episode of He Man, She Ra, Transformers, Teenage Ninja Totals, all my shows. It's got everything on now.

Gav: Backups. Backups.

Dan: Library f for years on there.

Dan: Um and I do delete stuff off of it. You know, sometimes I'll watch a film that back in the day when I used to download films naughty, I would put them on there as well and then I'd be like, Oh, I don't know why I ever wanted to watch that. It was shit. Delete. That's fine. So there's always a bit of space on there. Blah blah blah. Anyway.

Dan: I plugged it in yesterday.

Dan: and it's empty.

Dan: And I've done it.

Gav: You've got space on there, hard drive.

Dan: The whole thing is empty. Nothing's on there.

Gav: But but but does the space does our drive say a hundred and sixty gigs spare

Dan: Uh so I've googled it and looked into it and apparently Apparently this can happen um three to three to five years.

Dan: Yeah. Sometimes they can just have a malfunction and wipe themselves.

Gav: WTF?

Dan: So I've lost Thousands of films.

Dan: Yeah. Hundreds of thousands of hours of viewing. You know, all of my cartoons and stuff, stuff that I

Gav: Start picking up my DVD and get a little connection.

Dan: I know. So I'm really gutted about this, but at the same time I wasn't as upset as I thought. I just thought, oh well.

Gav: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That it's it's yeah, w f when it comes down to the fact like what happened to you in December?

Dan: Exactly.

Gav: President over something like that. You go, Oh well, carry on.

Dan: Exactly. That has changed my outlook on things. I mean I'm gutted, I've lost so many films but

Gav: But but uh what you could do?

Dan: Yeah, so I basically um

Dan: Yeah, lost. Lost. It was about... 75% fraud.

Dan: So that's like one point seven five terabytes. But yeah, it's um it is what it is. Um

Dan: So that's that. And then the last thing I want to talk about before we get into what we've been watching is the the format of our show. Now we've been going for what 12 years or something ridiculous now. And we've always done the format of two films.

Dan: usually related or not always. Um sometimes by the same director, sometimes of the same genre, sometimes sequels. And we break that up with our World of the Strange segment.

Dan: Um everybody who listens knows how our show goes. And that makes for a l a long show, three to four hours usually per episode. We try and drop two episodes a month.

Dan: It's really hard work and too and too hard really to do that realistically, um, these days with everything that's going on.

Gav: It goes back to me and Sarah's reason for the high stranger, same thing.

Dan: Yeah. So Gav and I have had lots of talks over the last few months, but uh especially recently, and we've decided we're gonna mix things up, keep the show fresh as always, and we're gonna um go to a one film per

Dan: Episode format. Uh further foreseeable. This might change again. It's nice to mix things up. So that's why we're only doing one film for this episode.

Gav: Let us know what you think of that, uh as well.

Dan: Please. Our ideas, and I'll probably put a poll on Facebook as well, and then this goes out to you patrons as well. But anybody can message me directly. What we were thinking is I pick this film, for example, Return of the Living Dead.

Dan: Then Gal picks the film for the following episode. And then for the third episode, the patrons pick an episode uh pick a film. Now, we're happy to do two if the patrons still want two for their episode.

Dan: Or if they just want to ha pick that their favourite out of the two that they've selected, uh'cause I know some of you, you know, we sh probably should have done two or three by now,'cause we've been on on hiatus. So let us know what you think of that idea.

Gav: Do you want two or one for your patron? And obviously the

Dan: And everybody listening, just tell us.

Gav: And the new format, yeah, 24.

Dan: But it it could be in it could be it'll be slightly shorter episodes, which means it'll be less um stress and less sort of work for us.

Gav: Like I said though, I feel like it gives us more dedication to the one particular film and we can actually give it more attention.

Dan: And um we're gonna drop World of the Strange. We've retired Bill for now. Yeah. Um unless something's really weird comes up, like they do actually announce aliens or something. We are gonna drop Bill. Bill's gonna be sent back to America.

Dan: Thank you, Bill Murray, for your service over the last ten

Gav: You can go now, Bill. Yep.

Dan: He said he's gonna stay here for a few more weeks. I don't know why. Um

Dan: But we do have a new segment um that we're gonna be bringing in in our next episode. Not this episode, because we've got time team for this episode. So it's gonna be called, as far as I can think, it's gonna be called

Dan: Pop fiction not pop pop fiction and it's gonna be talking about just for a few moments a snippet of something that hit pop culture and it could be a genre

Dan: of music or film, it could be a TV show, it could be a character, it could be an actor like Arnold Schwarzenegger, it could be the GarbagePell Kids trading cards. It could be anything. Scooby-Doo, you name it, something that hit pop culture

Dan: And that's normally that normally means it was probably around like the seventies, eighties or nineties. But I'm gonna bring something to the table each episode, just for me and Gav to chew the fat on for ten or fifteen minutes and that'll be our new segment.

Dan: Quick fiction starting on the next episode.

Gav: One ninety. Well this is about nine. Yep.

Dan: So let let us know what you think of this if you hate it.

Dan: No, if you hate it, then let us know. But that's what we're thinking. We're thinking cutting the show back a little bit to one movie and then pop fiction where we discuss a subject. Pop fiction. Pop fiction? Oh, we just come up with a ginger.

Gav: I I don't know in my head I know what's

Gav: Ha ha ha ha.

Dan: So that's that. So Gav, we have been away from talking to our lovely, beautiful listeners for a long time.

Gav: I love when we go from episode to episode and more on a regular basis that you say, What have you been watching? I go, I don't remember so here we go. Gav, what have you been watching? Uh uh yeah, it's been six months, I definitely don't remember. But

Gav: I went through the movies that have come out this year.

Gav: Fucking cars, it's hot people, I do apologize. Other movies that come out this year and the ones which um uh but were highlights to m ones I d I have a problem with or ones which I like. So

Dan: Because I I've got a big list. Yeah. Um

Gav: Alright.

Dan: I'll go first then because I've probably got more than you.

Gav: Yeah yeah yeah and um more than likely we'll clash at times.

Dan: Oh my gosh.

Gav: Like we say the same film, I'm not saying we clash on our thoughts, but we probably will also.

Dan: Well, I'm gonna go backwards with the stuff I've watched most recently, all the way back to January. Don't worry, this isn't a list of hundreds of films. Um but so only yesterday I watched Maxine.

Dan: Tide West. Uh the third in the Pearl trilogy. Um I was a bit disappointed. It was alright.

Gav: It's

Gav: It's i is it the eighties slasher one, yeah?

Dan: Yeah, no, it's shallow.

Gav: Alright guys.

Dan: So I I think you might like it. I liked that aspect of it.

Gav: Yeah, I didn't like X and then uh I haven't seen the Pearl.

Dan: So I I liked X but Pearl was my favourite of the three. Um there's no denying that um Mi Maya Goth is incredible.

Gav: Don't really like her.

Dan: Oh she she I think she's phenomenal.

Dan: But um it just felt like this was Maxine was a little bit of a jumping on the um the substance bandwagon a little bit with that style of filmmaking.

Dan: What's interesting is each of the the Pearl films is a different style. He's obviously done the first one, X, is like a 70s sort of slasher. Um, then Pearl is made very much like the 50s golden era of Hollywood movies, and he used all the same equipment. And he's done the same again with Maxie, and he's

Dan: He's only used equipment that was available in the eighties to give it that eightiesness. Ty West has done this with um The House of the Devil.

Dan: You know, he's done that before really well. Um but I I liked it. I I I only give it six out of ten though, and it to me, Pearl was the best.

Dan: It's the worst of the three. It's not a terrible film, it's just not it's my least favourite of the three Pearl movies. Um but yeah, that's Maxine. It's on N Netflix UK, that's one of the reasons I watched it. So Gav

Gav: Um go. Well another Netflix movie um I watched was Sinners. Oh no no I didn't. It was on HBO. I do apologise.

Gav: Um, I watched Sinners, I thought I'd check that out. Um and I uh spoiler there's vampires in it.

Gav: Just so in case you didn't know. Um I would try not to spoil the films we could talk about too much'cause we'll try not to

Dan: Some of the some of them are a bit newer.

Gav: Hm. Uh since um and it was my opinions was why bother putting any vampires in? It brought nothing to the story.

Gav: why didn't you just do it more on based on that guitarist and having like the spirits of that and going through the whole music thing and just doing it more on that? What w the van b all of a sudden it's just like

Gav: And now some vampires. Why? It brought nothing to it and I really disliked it for that reason but the film was is alright. But I liked the music element. Have you seen it?

Dan: Yes, so y m I did watch this for Halloween last year.

Gav: Do you remember the music bit when it goes through then the break dancers then and all that stuff?

Gav: It threw me out of it.

Dan: My least favourite part. Yeah.

Gav: It threw me out of it'cause it's like, Why have they put this in here? But now I was just like, Well, if you could do it about this guitarist, let's do it more on that. The vampire fell I just I don't know what they're

Gav: Trying to say with it, I n not that it has to be any message, but I just felt like you could have gone more the musician route and something. I don't know, it's weird.

Dan: I really liked the the setting.

Gav: Jack O'Connell is just a vampire.

Dan: I I really like the time period setting. I really liked um I really liked, you know, it's obviously it's one load of bosques and stuff, you know, and it it but I feel personally it's overhyped. I think it's it's a decent film. Is it?

Dan: Okay. But I'd rather watch Dust Till Dawn. If I want to see a film about a bunch of people in a bar that suddenly turns into a vampire flick halfway through, then I'm gonna go Dust Till Dawn every time. Um and and like I say, the the bit that I didn't like was the musical segment. Didn't really like that.

Gav: Yeah, it's weird, but it just didn't vampires at all. I think it could have done something different. I don't know why vampires. If you do that, do that, pull the music thing out of it a bit. Why why that I think that's what it was,'cause that music thing happened before the vampires happened.

Gav: And it's like what? And I don't know if it's artsy for being just fucking artsy. I don't know. So anyway, I don't personally recommend it. So

Dan: A lot of people are raving about it and that's fine, uh each to their own. Um So I watched Sam Raimi's send help.

Dan: and I absolutely fucking loved it. Um it was a real

Dan: I was I was in in every moment. It's not often the story will keep me occupied. I did look at my phone once. Uh I was really into it. The two main actors were fantastic, Rachel McAdams especially. I couldn't tell which way it was gonna go and obviously I'm not gonna spoil it because it's

Dan: Only come out this year. Now it's on Netflix.

Dan: Yeah, um we can talk about that off air but I really liked it it's it's a return to form for Sam Raimi uh it's not your traditional Sam Raimi film though it's not super

Dan: supernatural. Um and it's got elements that reminded me of um dragged me to hell at times. It's got a Sam Raimi stuff all over it though, you know, lots of gore and sick and slime and stuff.

Dan: But uh it's really interesting movie about a woman who is stranded on a desert island, a plane crashes, her and her boss.

Dan: And the power shift turn of changes because she's got some skills. Um, but I don't want to spoil it so I won't say any more. But if you like Sam Raimi and if you just want to see a really good survival horror film, and it's not all out horror.

Gav: Is it's yeah, it's fine'cause I uh for me and that I like uh I movie I like isolation, I like limited cast.

Gav: Um

Gav: Yeah film. So yeah, do it's it's yeah, it's fine. It's you're not getting a Sam Raymond movie though, uh for sure.

Dan: Yeah, it's not it's not an Evil Dad film.

Gav: Th this actually my next film actually goes through that very nicely. Um and and to send help, yeah, I have issues with it but I'll have to speak to you off air because I can't c spoil the film. Um but this goes on to my next one. I watched the mummy last night.

Gav: Um

Gav: Remotely sorry. Yeah, I remember thinking, Who's this cunt? Who's Lee Cronin? Who the fuck is Lee Cronin? And I'd look him up and I was like, Oh he did Evil Dead Royals, which I watched again recently and I was be like

Gav: Nah, boring. I'm not watching that again. Not interested in Evil Dead Rise. I watched it in the cinema and I thought it was alright, and I watched again.

Dan: Seen it the ones at the at the cinema and I enjoyed it in the cinema.

Gav: And don't read that for me. Um So I watched this but I kind of gutted spoiler if you're gonna wanna it's not really a much of a spoiler, but if you wanna watch a movie which actually has like a fucking

Gav: Guy wrapped up in fucking bandages going round going uh strangling people, which I wanted. It doesn't have that whatsoever.

Gav: I was like, No'cause and I was thinking about I was talking to Sarah, it was like the different um mummies which your past mummies have been Of been action pop movies.

Gav: Tom Cruise, Action Pop. Um, Brendan Fraser, Action Pop. And it's like uh it's weird that really,'cause I know I watched the Universal one not that long ago with Borz Koloff and it was a bit rubbish. No offense that one. The hammer hammer mummy movies are all alright.

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: So yeah, it's interesting. So going into this, it kind of does the... You haven't seen it, no?

Dan: I have not seen it now, but I know it's it looks like it's more of a possession y type.

Gav: It goes into midsommer. Well yeah, this is right. I didn't mind the film. There's a lot of sort of like it's the main guy whose girlfriend he takes to uh Sweden in mid summer.

Gav: It's the main guy's girlfriend. Yeah. Um he's the main guy's dad and it

Gav: And his kid goes missing. Um I won't go into any more things actually, I won't spoil it. But it's a lot of it's a two hour fifteen movie minute movie, but actually it must be fifteen minutes of credits'cause it's uh it stopped at two hours.

Gav: Um it was quite intriguing all the way through. It's like mystery element to it.

Gav: It was basically the Exorcist and Evil Dead remake, Evil Dead Rise, and um through the way of trying to say it's a mummy movie. And it it was in a sense it has got a bit of the mythos from Egypt, etcetera, etcetera.

Gav: But I think at the end of the day it's a p just a possession film of a little girl. That's what it the film is. You basically w it's like, Oh, I saw I saw the Exorcist like

Gav: I don't want to get into it too much but towards the end of the movie you kind of seen that movie before. Yeah.

Dan: The the m the mummy's an interesting monster of from horror because everybody thinks of the Scooby Doo mummy. Um

Dan: But but actually I'd say arguably the best mummy movie is definitely the the Brendan Fraser Stephen Summer directed one. That's just

Dan: the right blend of Indiana Jones action but also horror and the effects were great at the time and they they kinda hold up all right now for the late nineties. But actually I think the best mummy we've ever seen on screen is the mummy from the monster squad. That was the mummy I wanna see a whole movie about that guy.

Gav: All of those effects in that movie was brilliant.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: But um I will check it out only when it's hit streaming though I'm not gonna sort of pay or anything to watch it but um yeah i I was in I was a bit disappointed from the trailer. I thought, Oh, this just looks like an Evil Dead or an Exorcist movie.

Gav: Yeah you've seen the film before but there is a lot of mystery element for it going into it and I was just like okay, so why is he called it Lee Crane?'Cause like surely people are gonna go

Gav: I go watch the mummy, then go, Oh, Tom Cruise's in it. Oh that oh that must be the right one and go, Oh no, it's not. Uh uh surely people have the most intelligence. So then I realised it's because it's his take of the film like Rob Zombies Halloween.

Gav: That's what it is. Because it's not like John Carpenter's the thing,'cause like this dude does not deserve his name on it. I don't even know who he is. Like John Carpenter, yes. But then I think it's like Rob Zombie's Halloween. So I think it's his interpretation of the film and the myth.

Dan: And it's probably to sort of differentiate between, like you said, the other one.

Dan: But that Tom Cruise mummy movie was just pointless. Like what was that was trash?

Gav: So next year, um uh this is a warning to everybody, next year the copyright uh public domain, um I think it's Frankenstein and the mummy or Frankenstein and Dracula.

Gav: comes into public domain in America. Um uh so you'll get lots of you know like the Popeye movies you're getting now, the horror ones and the horror and the Winnie the Pooh horror movies and shit.

Dan: Seen any of them.

Gav: You're gonna you'll be getting loads of that because those movies are coming into public domain next year. But only in American territory. So there's no point in me making it unless I could sell it just to American territory, which would be a real risky gamble.

Dan: Strange.

Gav: Ja, ja.

Dan: I'll cover off a couple of quick ones'cause I've got still got quite a few here. Um I rewatched Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the movie um the other day, which I used to run that out a couple of times because to be honest I still am in love with Kirstie Swanson

Dan: It's got a great cast. It's got Luke Perry, Ben Affleck, all with like um first time roles. But the main people in it are Donald Sutherland, Christy Sonson.

Dan: Paul Rubens, P. Herman, and Luke Perry. Um, really good fun actually. Um I can see why it flopped. Um Joss Whedon wrote it and then the studio turned it into a really uh f uh fluffy

Gav: So, yeah.

Dan: teenage movie. So that's that's essentially why he went off and made the series, which went for seven seasons and then five seasons of Angel. So, you know, something good came out of it. But it's still an enjoyable film. And if you haven't watched it for a long time, it's on Disney Plus, um

Dan: It is fun and it's silly, but it's well written. Um and it's got a great cast. Donald Sutherland has, you know, uh training her to fight vampires, it's great. Just brilliant. Um I'll c I'll go to a couple of other ones quickly as well then. Um

Dan: I've finished an entire series over the last couple of weeks written by Joe Hill, who we all know is Stephen King's son. Uh it's called Nos 4A2. That's NOS4A2, like a number plate or a license plate.

Gav: Noise like the gas currents there, so kids just do noise.

Dan: It's um it's not gonna be for everyone. In fact, I think a lot of people wouldn't like it, but it's a really strange series. It's 20 episodes in total about a man in a Rolls-Royce race.

Dan: who is like an immortal and he basically goes, drives around America and collects children in the back of his R Worlds Royce Wraith and then drains the life force out of them as they're driving along and he takes them to a place called Christmas land. So it's set at Christmas mainly Um and

Dan: That's and it's mainly he thinks he's doing it for good because he takes children that are abused or in terrible situations, but it's obviously that they're sort of r start rossing and then he drops them off at this Christmas land where anything goes and they can just live that live out their lives eating candy canes. However

Dan: There's also a girl in it who rides a motorcycle and she has a power that she can make a bridge from the past appear, go through the mo the bridge on her motorcycle, and she can go anywhere in the world or anywhere in time.

Dan: to find lost items or people. So she starts becoming I know it's crazy.

Gav: Are you sure this is real?

Dan: So she starts becoming like a nemesis for him and trying to find some of the children and it goes into this whole

Dan: Crazy battle. And it's got really good cast in it. Um but like I said, it was it took me and I know this isn't something you would do, but it took me about four episodes to get into it.

Dan: And then I was like, okay, I'm kind of here now,'cause it had a bit of a twin peaksness with the sort of the small town and everything like that and all the mythology around it. But it's so batshit crazy, it's so gory as well. Um

Dan: Uh it's uh but unfortunately it's leaving Netflix in about three weeks, which is one of the reasons I wanted to watch it. But if you get the time

Dan: to watch it and you think it might be for you, I would recommend Nosphor Auto. It's based on a at least one, if not a series of books by Joe Hill, Stephen King's son. Really weird, strange

Gav: Alright, that's a good recommendation then.

Gav: Yeah. I did start watching, I haven't gotten through it all yet. Um me and Charlie started watching Welcome to Derry.

Gav: We've only done two episodes but very, very gory as well. It seems to be so gory these shows nowadays. You've never got one way back in the day.

Dan: I know it's great, isn't it?

Gav: Um and I've actually just I've got two episodes left and I've done sort of four seasons. It's not horror. I watched a pro even though it's g the title's Banshee. Um but I watched a T V show called Banshee, which is about um

Gav: A dude that comes out of prison and he's uh goes to a bar where there's another ex-con who has the bar and they're sitting there just having a talk and that and there's another guy there who's gonna be the sheriff for the town, the Amish town just up the road.

Gav: Two people come in to rob it and those freaks shoot each other and all die. So the two ex cons are like, Oh fuck So they decide to bury the bodies and as they bury the bodies the phone rings and this guy says, Is that Sheriff Hood? And he goes, Yes it is And he drives up to the town

Gav: 'Cause he he's a new sheriff starting up town. He drives up to town just his next con but he's done his time, but he just decides to be the sheriff. So he's just like beating the shit out of everybody. Hey sheriff, that's not how we do things and he's just beating people up and shit and uh

Gav: It's pretty good show. Um really really gory uh proper massive fight scenes. They had apparently gyms on the set the whole time'cause I had to stay in shape. Um massive fight scenes every episode and every episode full nudity and loads of sex is basically soft

Gav: core point, which brings nothing for the story. It does nothing to forward the story in any way. It's just banging. There's no need for it. At times I forward through the sex scenes. I was like boring. They're really hot people, but it's like boring

Dan: Never getting old.

Dan: 'Cause we speed through the sex scenes.

Gav: Yeah.

Gav: Um um anyway, um I'll tell you a movie which I really enjoyed which is not horror as well.

Gav: The Minecraft movie.

Dan: Ha! And now I watch this with my children. In fact I bought this on Prime because my son has never played it, doesn't even know it's a game because he's only well he's about to turn five. But he knows all the songs and he knows he watch

Dan: watches Minecraft on um on YouTube kids YouTube and then about a month ago my wife downloaded Minecraft for him the the game so he's just started playing it. So we sat down and we watched it twice now.

Dan: Really good fun, isn't it?

Gav: And I was like, Go on, no. No And it was like such a good movie.

Dan: Ch-ch-ch-ch again.

Gav: I said to Elijah, I've got, Can we watch Minecraft? He's like, but we saw it in cinema. I was like, Yeah, but I wanna watch it And it's just uh I really like it. I think it's such a good film. It really is. It's very

Dan: Um funny.

Gav: Jason Momoa and his his pink leather jacket with tassels and just owning the retro shop and he used to be like a a really good, amazing arcade player. It's such so good Jack Black, him and Jack Black are such a good team. They're so funny.

Dan: that I I celebrated my birthday a couple of months ago. We missed my birthday episode. For my b for my birthday and yours. Gosh, yeah. Um so for my birthday we went to watch the Mario Galaxy movie, the second Mario movie, which I went with the kids to watch that and again

Dan: Like we really, really enjoyed that. Uh I loved the first one. And there is something to be said for these films like the Sonic the Hedgehog movies, they're all really good with Jim Carrey as as Doctor Robot on it. I don't know if you've seen those, but they're all really

Gav: Yeah, that's why

Dan: Minecraft.

Gav: Yeah, really good.

Dan: Um the Mario movies. So I'm glad to see that w they can not just do a cash in, you know,'cause that Minecraft movie just could have been a shit cash in, but it was fun, funny, um, great effects.

Dan: I know nothing about Minecraft, so for me it was

Gav: Uh.

Dan: So I don't, so I just learnt everything about it.

Gav: didn't like it. Me and you liked it. Elijah doesn't like it because it's not realistic.

Dan: It's not true to the game.

Dan: We've raised our children right.

Gav: It is uh it's not real to the game, so I don't like that. And I was like, I really enjoy it.

Gav: Um

Dan: We sing the lava chicken song all the time in this house.

Gav: Yeah, Sonic and Sonic the Hedgehog's really good'cause you got Jim Carrey basically. Yeah. Uh Hugo.

Dan: I'll do a couple uh to get through this later.

Gav: Oh okay, all right, yeah'cause yeah, go back.

Dan: I'll quickly mention one that I would really recommend, but I know you didn't like, called Unwelcome. It was from twenty twenty two, um about a married couple who live in London.

Gav: I uh me and Sarah gave up halfway through uh half an hour into it.

Dan: They move well that's a shame'cause you missed what the creatures were. So it is a creature feature. So this married couple who are kind of like terrorized by like thugs move to the country in in Ireland. He inherits a a cottage from his

Dan: one of his aunties or something. And I won't spoil it because it's it's twenty twenty two, so it's been out a while, but I I just recommend it. Um if you like a creature feature

Dan: It's kind of got some little Irish creatures in it and they're not the ones you think. Um really gory.

Dan: And it's a really great um re almost a revenge film in some ways. Um and my only doubt the only thing I didn't like about it was the way that the guy never got

Dan: to get his own back. But other people do. I won't say any more than that. But it it's quite a fun movie. It's I believe it's by the same guy did did um

Dan: What's that movie set in Ireland where the It's a bit like Tremors? Grabbers. Which one? Grabbers, yes, that one. It's a bit like that. I think it's the same guy actually. Um so Unwelcome, you know, I'd recommend that one. I wouldn't recommend the Nun Two.

Dan: Gonna skate over that. I w I would recommend Apex. Anuntuo. Have you seen it? You looked perplexed then

Gav: No, no, no. I was trying to think if that was Corinna Hardy's movie or not. Or did he just do the first one?

Dan: No, it's not. It's uh directed by Michael Shaves. Um but I will talk about APE.

Dan: Which is another survival a woman surviving the the elements.

Gav: Yeah, I I did see this one. Um uh it's alright, it's a little bit at times a little bit unrealistic, but

Dan: Charlie's Therone and Taryn Edgerton. It's a real cross between um deliverance, um, uh wrong turn

Dan: It's it's really nasty at times. Um and a good yeah a good fun ride. Yeah.

Gav: I won't spoil it. When it goes to a certain point and she

Gav: And she's like stuck in the cave bit and uh as that saying happens. I I didn't like that'cause I liked the I liked the outside bit with the chase and the hunt.

Gav: I like that.

Gav: Then I felt like I didn't like that, I liked the outside joy.

Dan: But again I I believe that's on there for it's again I

Dan: Yeah, yeah. Um and another one that was on Netflix, you can tell what I've been doing in the five months, um, is a really interesting film with by Alejandro Haja, who who directed um

Dan: What's it called? Why can't I remember the name? Switchplay romance. Thank you guys.

Gav: and I have always the need.

Dan: Didn't he do one of the evil the first Evil Dead movie as well? I don't know. The first of the remake. But it's called Never Let Never Let Go and it stars Halle Berry. Um and it's kind of got a bit a bit

Dan: Walking Dead definitely feels like a Cheyenne movie, without spoiling it. And it's about a mum and her twin sons who have kind of like

Dan: It's the end of the world. There's no one else really around and they're living in a cottage in the woods and they are tied to the cottage and they can only go as far as the ropes. They've got these really long ropes and they go out to forage with

Dan: Yeah, they're tethered. So

Dan: There's some good twists in it. Hallie Berry's really good in it. She's a great actress actually, you know. There's a reason she she is who she is. She hasn't done as much s good stuff recently, but she's great. But it's really great and it really reminded me halfway through. I was like, This is like a Shy Amalin movie. This is really good.

Dan: So that's called Never Let Go from twenty twenty four. Really decent movie I I recommend.

Dan: I'm gonna suggest.

Gav: People don't watch Blackphone Two, um, which I almost went to cinema. Bloody glad I didn't. Daisy loves the first one, loads for it.

Dan: Yeah, the first one is great.

Gav: So I thought for a birthday surprise. Yeah surprise you said oh wow so we all sat down to watch Blackphone 2 and it's shit. So that's all I'm gonna say. Don't bother. It's waste of fucking time. Um also another waste of time, trap.

Gav: Uh speaking of Shah Alaman uh

Gav: Uh now this this movie should have been a good movie. If you'd stayed in the fucking premise you put out there, you fucker, on the trailers and the synopsis, yes, it's stuck in a pop concert and the the police are there and there's a serial killer.

Gav: Okay, keep it there. Why all of a sudden are we g in now in someone's kitchen? It's just fucking ridiculous now. Who gives a shit? It was the premise goes out the window and it's shit.

Dan: I really want to see it. Um'cause I love Shaman.

Gav: Soon as the premise goes out the window it's just like Um another one quickly, uh Wake Up Dead Man um'cause I'm just going through the films of since

Gav: Since Christmas. Uh Wake Up Dead Man which was the third movie um in the in the trilogy of knives out trilogy, I suppose you could say. Uh I think it's gonna be a full fun possible if they keep

Dan: It knives out then it's glass onion and then it's my gutted

Gav: Yeah, and um I really enjoyed Wake Up Dead Man more than Glass Onion. Um uh not as much uh I prefer the knives out the most, but then this one comes second, but I really enjoyed

Gav: spooky stuff almost. A lot of stuff based in a church. Um so I actually quite dig that. So I recommend that if you like murder mysteries. It's a bit out everyone's probably seen it by now. We're a bit we're a bit late to do the episode.

Dan: Yeah, but it's good to talk about what we've said and you know, I haven't really caught up on anything new, so it's good for me to know the stuff that's out there as well. Yeah.

Gav: Couple more and then I will speak a couple more of the future.

Dan: I'll do a few more then I watched Barbie Yeah, well I wasn't gonna watch it and my wife just said, no, I think just watch it.

Gav: So to be fair, you put Alice probably food some really fucking weird horror sometimes, so

Dan: Yeah, exactly. She didn't watch it with me, I ended up watching it on my own. Um I was really confused by it because it's a really well made film and I absolutely love Ryan Gosling, of course, you know he's

Gav: Used what? How how's it g how's it how's a booby called Barbie confusing?

Dan: Because I didn't know what it was trying to say or what the message was because

Dan: If it was all set in Barbie's world, great. But she comes to the real world. And I I I can't stand Margot Robbie. Honestly. She's hot as all hell, but she annoys me and everything she's in, really. Apart from um uh Wolf of Wall Street and a couple of other things.

Dan: She just she just seems to be everywhere and I find her a little bit annoying. And I also have really gone off Will Ferrell, who's in it as well, um, as an angry boss shouting at people, and I've seen all that before, like Ankerman is his peak for me.

Dan: So those two bits were annoying me. Ryan Gosling was great, but I didn't know what the message was. Was it aimed at children? Was it aimed at y older women that have grown up?

Dan: And I had Barbie when they were kids. Is it aimed at feminists? Is it aim aimed at I don't know what it's aimed at because the message to me was very confusing. Maybe I'm being dumb, um, but it felt like it was really trying to ram a message down my throat about

Dan: With and it's a Well I I do want Edith to watch it because I do think it does show you that'cause Barbie's obviously great in that.

Dan: Barbie's an astronaut, Barbie's a safari woman, Barbie is a doctor. You can buy all these different Barbies, you know, of all colours, disabilities, everything you want and that's fantastic that Barbie can be, any woman can be.

Dan: Whatever they want. And I loved that side of it. And I think Edith should watch it because she's a bit older for that.

Gav: Purple Barbie very armed.

Dan: They haven't got that one though.

Dan: But I just I was just confused by it really and I don't get what the hype was about. Also it felt like a bit cheap. And I know a lot of it was set in a plastic world.

Dan: but it just felt like the budget was lower than it I know it was. It's very strange.

Gav: It became a bit of a hit though, didn't it?

Dan: Yeah, and I haven't seen Oppenheimer, which is weird,'cause those were the two that came out the same week.

Gav: Yeah, I've not seen it either.

Dan: Uh um I'll talk about a very couple of quick more than um Thrash, the shark movie.

Dan: Yeah, and I really liked it. I really enjoyed it. Um

Gav: It's uh it's it's a little forgetful to be honest with you. Uh I'd have to really sort of wrap my brains go. I c I kind of remember it now.

Dan: It's an interesting story about a truck full of meat.

Gav: crawl if you're gonna go that way, I think.

Dan: Yeah. Um I enjoyed Thrash though, it was decent. It was better than Meg Two, which I also watch uh w when we talk about. You've covered Minecraft, so I don't need to talk about that.

Gav: and I left

Dan: I did, I did. Um I watched Borderlands by Eli Roth, which I think we've talked about. I don't know if you've seen it.

Gav: Um uh I remember Sarah um was quite hyped for it. Uh I think she watched it and said it's shit because she w like really liked the game.

Dan: Wow, what a fucking tremendous waste of money.

Gav: Really?

Dan: I gave it three out of ten. Um it's got Kate Blanchette.

Gav: know the game, so you had to go in it as a movie goer for a story, so how was it introducing it to you as not knowing the game?

Dan: Um, just felt like a mishmash of other movies that I've seen, Mad Max and a few other things. Um I like Jack Black normally, but as soon as this little robot showed up and started going.

Dan: I was like, oh, it's Jack Black in it. Fucking hell. Because I love him in Minecraft and I love him in a lot of stuff he's in. But he's a little robot.

Gav: Hiloros a very strange choice to helm the be the captain of the ship to what direction it goes.

Dan: Because it was originally very gory and then the studio got involved and it cuts away from all the gore. Um so the version that's out there isn't the version that he shot, um, which I think is probably part of the reason it flopped really, because I think the game's quite gory, isn't it, from what I hear.

Gav: I don't know, I don't know

Dan: So yeah, uh I wouldn't bother with that. Um I'd watched The Quiet Place Day One and I was quite impressed with that. Good. Um uh it's better than the second one. I really like the first one obviously.

Dan: But the second one's good, um and it's all all about like the outbreak of the creatures. So that's quite fun to see. It's kind of you could just pretend it's nothing to do with the other quiet place movies.

Gav: Even though that is isolation, a small limited cast, I was really into it. Don't know why.

Gav: I got two movies uh to talk of and they both start with W

Dan: And I know one of them'cause it's on my list.

Gav: Oh, he banged his head.

Dan: That's on my list too.

Gav: I really enjoyed that. Um it's um it's on Netflix now. It's basically Predator, uh if Predator was the alien was actually Ed two oh nine, but really big.

Dan: Or a transformer.

Gav: Transformer. And that was the movie and it's and it stars um what's his name?

Dan: Adam Richardson.

Gav: Hello Rich and Rich. I I like this fella. Um he's I really like him in uh guy Richie movie called the un uh uh ministry of un

Dan: Well sentiment leave all fresh.

Gav: I wish they'd just make easier names. Um I really like that film. I'm a massive fan of that film of Guy Ritchie's recent movies. OC Tom Hard is fired from Guy Ritchie's T V show.

Gav: Is he? Yeah, he's been fired from season.

Dan: What for?

Gav: Uh Um uh basically Warner Brothers decided to go uh no Warner Brothers Paramount decided to go with um the producers and guy Richie over Tom Hardy who um

Gav: Apparently turning up on set late, but that's the actors in general really that's nothing new. Um but he didn't like the way the film was going um as an ensemble piece rather than a piece more about him. But it's weird though, have you seen Moblands the first season?

Gav: Pretty decent, pretty decent show. It is more an ensemble piece anyway though. He is just a character in it, so I don't know why But uh obviously the classroom producers to the point he's done that and I think he's gonna have a break from acting for a little bit.

Dan: Funny, um I didn't put this on my list, but you've just reminded me one of the first things I watched while I was off work was a series called Taboo with Tom Hardy.

Dan: Which is a really weird film set like a hundred and fifty years uh it's a series, sorry. Yeah, about eight episodes. And it's Tom Hardy, comes back from Africa. It's set like a hundred and fifty years ago and he's trying to like to get

Dan: His dad's shipping company but it's like got some voodoo supernatural stuff in it. It was good, yeah. Weird. Really weird.

Dan: But Tom Hardy's great. I love watching Tom Hardy and any but but War Machine if I just jump on the back of the

Gav: No, no, is and I recommend War Machine if you're into if you wanna basically uh dog soldiers dog soldiers set up, military people in woods on a training mission.

Gav: But uh th there's a s a kind of a mix like in predator uh all of a sudden, oh no, this is not what's happening, something else is happening and now there's a lot of death and blood and gore and kind of a two hundred nine type sort of robot.

Dan: Yeah, big testosterone field blokes trying to survive.

Gav: That's the movie. So I recommend that if you're into that if you like Predator, I think you like it. I couldn't think

Dan: It's doing really well. Um it went straight to streaming but actually it's one of Netflix's surprise hits this year. It's doing really well and and I love animals.

Gav: I'm putting on my projector and it's got the simple premise. It's got it it's a group of people. It's not just blokes as well, there's some ladies in the air squad. And um just fighting against a thing which You leave your brain at the door

Dan: Well it sets up a sequel as well, which I'd be ha more than happy to watch. Um so Yeah.

Gav: Now he's knackered at the end where he gets in the helicopter.

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Dan: We should probably talk about what happened to him briefly in real life as well. Um, for anyone who hadn't seen Alan Richardson a couple of months ago, uh was riding his motorbike with his children around his neighbourhood. Massive guy, plays Jack Reacher, he's been in all these movies.

Dan: Yeah, he's got a lot of man at hold stuff, but he's he's standing with it.

Gav: He is a massive, massive guy. I look at him and I go, I'd like to be that.

Dan: Yeah, I'd like to be that too. Um but some idiot neighbour of his was annoyed with him riding around with his children, considering all the things we've just described about him, and decided to pull him off of his motorbike.

Dan: No, th you don't do that to this guy. And this guy so then he You wouldn't put him off at all?

Dan: So this guy so Alan Richardson then p punched the guy because obviously you know he's done that in front of his children, he doesn't know what's going on, and he said to him, Stay down, stay on the ground the guy kept trying to get up and he kept on shoving him back down on the ground. The guy then went to the police and said, I've been attacked.

Dan: I want to sue him. And Alan Richardson's like, actually, I was wearing a GoPro. Here's the footage of what actually happened. And now everybody's like, Yay, he's a real life hero.

Gav: I just kept the app that way.

Dan: Yeah. Well probably why he does it really.

Gav: Um Mm weapons.

Dan: Yes, on my list. Best thing I've seen in about twelve months.

Gav: I really d enjoyed it. It's director of Barbarian and it's uh uh really interesting as a scriptwriter, um and it's really interesting um way the movie is. You've got uh basically

Gav: Small kind of um before we get on to the actual what the movie is, but the characters in it all have their own little arcs and we see their arcs as little

Dan: Fiction style.

Gav: in i in essence and he did this he mi did this with barbarine a little bit. Um and even though it's a long movie, it shoots by

Gav: um really well and um basically it's a movie about um a bunch of kids that just run off into the woods in the night which uh scared me for a moment when I first heard about this because I came up with a movie called The Woods.

Gav: Where all the women and children are one night just go completely missing in the woods. And I was like, Oh no but then it go this the movies are both very different, so that didn't scare me anymore.

Gav: Um uh yes, um I really enjoyed this film. Um d can we say what it is, what horror it is, does that give it away?

Dan: I think that probably would give it away because it's still quite

Gav: On it's a bit of a mystery I guess. Um I uh hands down re uh give this a thumbs up.

Dan: Really um original, uh, really incredibly well written, incredibly well acted, a really great cast. The way the way that they use the Pulp Fiction style vignettes to sort of you know, you start the next scene

Dan: And then it that scene will then suddenly sort of overlap with what you've just seen in the previous scene. So it kind of un unfolds the story in that way, which is fantastic.

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Dan: And and it really helps with um you're trying to work out what's going on as well and it's unfolding slowly but surely in front of your eyes. Really gory. Uh and a really great ending as well. But people are gonna be like, What the fuck, man? The ending is just like, Whoa.

Gav: Yeah, it's a good film, really good film. And um uh I I took out a subscription of HBO Max uh recently. I've got a few now Paramount, Prime, Disney, Netflix, fucking uh anyway.

Gav: But it's okay, it's five or something like that. It's worth it if you're just gonna watch fucking weapons and that's it. But for the month though, go in and you can you can even check out Sinners. There's load of stuff on there. Uh uh paramount uh

Gav: HBO does not sponsor this show, I'm just saying though it's easy just to get subscription and watch what see weapons if you're wondering where it is.

Dan: I kn I I knew I was gonna like weapons. Everybody's recommended.

Gav: Definitely recommend. Um honestly all all of you listening, if you haven't seen it, check it out.

Dan: I so I ended up just buying it on Prime um because it was on offline.

Gav: Or pick up a blu-ray for the collection.

Dan: Yeah, it was great and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, and like I said, it's probably the best thing I've seen in at least twelve months. Um so that was on my list as well.

Gav: Okay.

Dan: I'll d I'll bang a couple off my list, no?

Gav: Finish your list'cause then I want to speak about two films which are coming out this year.

Dan: Okay, great. So um I watched a series um sorry, a documentary called The Perfect Neighbour.

Dan: You I think you've seen it on it's on Netflix.

Gav: Yes. Uh S S Sarah and I did a I think a patron episode on it for

Dan: I think you might have done actually, yeah. It's all um real life.

Dan: ring doorbell footage and cop body cam footage about an incident that happens in America where somebody's murdered and it's really the way it rolls out and plays out it's like a it's like it's been written in a studio but

Gav: Karen decides to dig.

Dan: Oh she is a fucking dick, isn't she?

Gav: Yeah.

Gav: I won't but ruining your ruining life just because you f a face. Do you know what I mean?

Dan: Highly recommend it if you love a documentary on Netflix. Um that's called The Perfect Neighbour. Um what else have I watched? Um War Machine you've already covered. Um Cocaine Shark?

Dan: Yes, I watched it.

Gav: The coach you did.

Gav: Surprise me.

Dan: And I've seen a lot of bad sharp movies. So skimming away from

Gav: Do cocaine in the fucking it must be in the packet and it swallows it.

Dan: It eats like a load of cocaine from off the back of a Colombian yacht.

Dan: Um I watched Together.

Dan: From twenty twenty five?

Dan: Oh wow, okay. It's a really good movie. Um it's got James Franco's brother Dave Franco in it.

Gav: Oh, no. Sarah's told me not to watch it because of the body horror I'll find yucky.

Dan: It's Body Horror and it's about a couple who moved to a small town and there's a secret in the town. And I won't spoil it'cause it's still relatively new but it's it got really good reviews and it's quite yucky

Dan: Um it's hard to describe what it is. I guess like if you if you think of like society or the substance, if you like your body hard like that, but also it's quite romantic at times.

Dan: It's a really great movie and I I I can't recommend it enough. Um a couple of others to bang off the list then. Um I also watched um

Dan: I watched Barbarian, funny enough. Heart Eyes.

Dan: No, I thought it was going to be really terrible.

Dan: It was brilliant. It was the best um Valentine themed horror movie I've seen since.

Gav: Okay. Or is it for teens, is it for the younger or horrifying?

Dan: No, not at all, not at all.

Gav: It seems like it is. It's uh where it's portrayed in the picture.

Dan: Yeah, well they're they're older. The characters in it are older, so they're not teenagers. Um and actually it's a it's a really good blend of rom-com

Dan: But slasher. Uh I it's on Prime. Right.

Dan: Um but it's a r it was it was in the cinema last year, I think Halloween last um Valentine's Day last year. But it's a really great m miri marrying of

Dan: s rom com writing and and that kind of like well will they or won't they get together but also there's a serial killer who kills people on Valentine's Day and it's just

Dan: It's really good actually and very funny and very gory. I really recommend that. I can't remember if we talked about Predator Badlands.

Gav: I think we did.

Dan: That came out at the end of last year. Did we talk about that?

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Okay. Yeah, that that was good. Really enjoyed that too. Um Night Swim?

Gav: You seen that? I think I actually put it on and Didn't pay any attention to it'cause I don't know.

Dan: It's about it's basically about a haunted swimming pool, which sounds weird.

Gav: Yeah, yeah. I think I tuned out pretty quick.

Dan: I I really enjoyed it. I really did enjoy it. Um that was good fun. Uh I watched Carry On.

Dan: Not the carry on movies.

Gav: Oh yeah, carry on's good, yeah.

Dan: Yeah, like a diehard claim.

Gav: It's it's it got silly p you're like that's just not gonna happen. But if you can just put your brain at the door, it's okay.

Dan: Yeah, that was fun. We have a ghost.

Dan: Have you seen that?

Dan: Um, very Ghostbusters, um, but in a good way. Beetlejuice Ghostbusters. It's one of those movies that's kind of like, Oh that

Dan: charming, family friendly, spooky vibe to it. A bit of a Scooby Doo episode. It was really fun. It's got David Arbour in it as the ghost. Mm-hmm. You know David Arbour of course. Um so that

Gav: He he got shot in the face in the T V show I was watching yesterday.

Dan: No one shoots Santa. Um they cloned Tyrone.

Dan: Really enjoyable film with John Boyleega and Jamie Foxx.

Dan: Feels like a bit of a black exploitation movie.

Dan: It is science fiction. It could be an episode

Gav: So yeah.

Dan: Yeah, it c it could be an episode of um

Dan: Uh Black Mirror, yeah. It really good fun that was as well.

Dan: Don't move was another one I recommend if anyone's seen that.

Dan: about a woman who is injected by someone in the a bit like Apex, someone's out to get her in the woods. She's injected and she's got a certain amount of time before her whole body is paralyzed. So she has to try and get from A to B. All the while her body's getting more and more paralyzed all the way there and she's got a st

Gav: Did you end up does she end up like Homer when he's paralyzed and um ha realises they can fart to communicate like Morse code?

Dan: Uh not quite like that. It takes itself a bit more seriously than that. Um I've only got a couple more

Dan: Literally and that's it. So I think you've seen the rip.

Dan: With Matt Damon and Ben Affleck.

Gav: I I really enjoyed this.

Dan: Really good movie. It's now currently being sued.

Dan: by the um the police force for that wherever it's set because they they're like, Oh, you're making us look like we're really dodgy.

Gav: Correct.

Gav: There's corruption everywhere.

Dan: But really great movie.

Dan: It's ridiculous.

Gav: Guys, we're ready.

Dan: M Matt Damon and Ben Affleck have great chemistry obviously and it's just this real rough and ready cop gritty cop thriller.

Gav: That's really It's nice.

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: Yeah, it's a really good film. I I I'm not a big fan of those two but after watching that was I really enjoyed this and uh I ch kinda changed betune with them both a little bit. And then after that, for uh that exact reason I ended up watching the Accountant and the Accountant Part Two.

Dan: I've already seen the first one.

Gav: Um and they're really enjoyable films. The second one's really good and it it was it's interesting to see an autistic person in the grown up life getting on because my eldest is autistic and just seen okay, let's see what an adult do

Gav: Her ranges are order there. Their food, their food can't touch a another bit of food, so knife and forks in the right position. Just the how they navigate through life I found very interesting.

Dan: Well it turns out autistic people make great hitmen if you're an athlete.

Gav: It seems to be as well, which is a strange combo, I've got to say.

Dan: The last one I'll mention then, and that's everything I've pretty much been watching, is Mr. Harrigan's phone.

Dan: Again with Donald Sutherland. Have you seen this?

Dan: Really recommend this. Wow. It feels like a Stephen King film. Um, Mr. Harrigan Dies and a teenager

Gav: Netflix.

Dan: So basically there's an old uh where did I see it? It might have been on that face. There's an old fella who I think it's Donald Subblin plays the old fella. Um

Dan: basically employs no he basically employs it um a young man to come over and just read to him because he's sort of he's very he's dying basically. So he becomes friends with this young man who just reads books to him and that's it. And then Mr Harrigan dies.

Dan: And then he starts getting text messages on on his phone from Mr. Harrigan and it's like uh he's trying to solve this case and it's really interesting, supernatural

Dan: um mystery trying to solve this crime. It's really, really, really, really good. Um very Stephen King. It might have been Joe Hill that wrote it. It must be. It feels like it was. But that's Mr Aragon's phone and that's from twenty

Dan: ninety two. That's my last one to talk about.

Gav: Oh good. Well um I hope we've uh uh if you've not seen some of the films or we didn't recommend them, um uh that you do check out some stuff and we've recommended some films to you. Um

Dan: Sorry, Stephen King did write it, Mr Aragon's phone.

Gav: But there you go. Um two films um I'm go well one of them I'm gonna say I I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna watch Disclosure Day which is Spielberg's new movie in a

Dan: I'm definitely gonna watch it.

Gav: just couldn't get the way through it and I really just like I've never liked this since I was a kid. I don't know why I've never liked close encounters. I think I feel like there's no one to root for really yeah like

Gav: Uh Thing Majiggy's character in it, who's in Jaws, he's just it's just kind of like it's not really that likable. And he seems to be the family you're rooting for. And it's like what is this thing?

Dan: I think the problem with Stephen King and aliens is you

Dan: Spielberg. Um Spielberg and Aliens is you were horrified by E. T.

Gav: Uh yeah.

Dan: And whenever Steven Spielberg does a an alien movie, maybe you're just like I

Gav: It's just I don't close and countless just it seems like it should be'cause there's cool effects and cool bits and bobs in it, but it just doesn't do it for me in any way. I've got nothing for it. And then this one that's come out disclosure day.

Gav: Um, the trader. Now I don't I'm like what is the movie then? Wha what we what is the story of the movie? Yes, the aliens could be and there's uh like some uh people living among us who might be aliens and spaceships possibly are real.

Gav: But what is the actual story?

Dan: Well Spielberg famously doesn't allow you to know the story in his trailers. So his trailers are always very secretive. Um so you won't get any more than that. You'll have to go.

Gav: I feel like I'm gonna have a close encounter session again with it. That's my problem. I I I might go cinema anyway. Spielberg, come on, he's not gonna be.

Gav: Exactly.

Gav: Uh it's a weird one to say that I'm gonna go to C and I'll watch it, I'll say it in a minute. But I'm gonna do it because it's humour and I wanna support humour coming back to the cinema. You probably Yay! Scary movie six.

Gav: I'm gonna go to the cinema and I'm gonna say to everybody, try to go to cinema to watch Scary Movie Six because they're gonna d probably do stuff which it's the Wayne Brothers again.

Gav: who did part one and part two. They're gonna do more outlandish stuff. And right now we need to get back that humour which is a bit like oh that's a bit rude Oh that you know it's a bit fuck I can help. The y you Ricky Gervais g golden globe speech type sort of thing.

Dan: American pie.

Gav: We need that back in. So I'm gonna go to the cinema and support that movie. Um just

Dan: Looks great.

Gav: Some money and get some seeds people in the cinema. Yeah, it it's just it's it it uh to be honest, I I have not paying that much attention. I'm just gonna go to support it. Um but it's scary movies, it's away in brothers. I'm gonna have a possibly have a chuckle.

Gav: You know, probably more chuckles than I did with the naked gun remake, which is awful and I paid a lot of money for.

Dan: Yeah, I I haven't seen that, but um

Dan: You do your other one that you wanted to mention and then I'll quickly funny enough, I've got a quick round up of what's coming this year. Oh okay.

Dan: Oh yeah, you have too, sorry. Yeah Obsession is one that everyone's talking about. Have you seen it yet?

Gav: Yeah. Uh no this is a dude who's a YouTuber who made milk and cereal, obviously I think. I think that's his

Dan: Okay.

Gav: Have you seen milk and cereal?

Dan: I haven't though.

Gav: Go on YouTube and watch it. You made a found footage film. It's ri it's pretty decent. It's quite yeah, it's quite an inventive person, quite a creative person. So fair play to him to be able to get a movie. It's like the dude that did uh The Rooms which has come out soon. It's like a

Gav: A young lad that just did the rooms for YouTube. You know the rooms? Back rooms?

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Gav: There's another YouTuber who's gone and made a horror movie and it's quite nice that we're having this because they're getting a following basically, so the the studios are like, Well

Gav: like A twenty four they're like, Well they've already got the following, we don't need to even market the film. Like let's let's make then this got who have got a good idea and they're making the right stuff, let's make giving them money to make a proper movie. So fair play,'cause if they bring out good movies, they're great. As horror fans we get good films.

Dan: As podcasters, you may have already seen it, but Undertone is one that everybody's been recommending me, um, about a podcaster who gets caught up in a quite a scary situation.

Gav: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh no, I do want to um I listened to an interview director on Adam and Joe uh's podcast, the movie crypt.

Gav: And I listened to the interview with the director. Um I do want to do that'cause uh it's a lot of audio stuff going on there and I um I'm a big fan of the audio as a as um wanna make that movie about in the woods audio movie. So yeah.

Dan: We've also got Scream 7 coming out this year, um whether you like the Scream series or not. They've made a seventh one and that's coming out later this year. And then for me personally, it's a great great year for me because in a couple of weeks My Masters of the Universe movie is coming out.

Gav: on Facebook Marketplace today a freely printed uh uh Adam Hare wig.

Gav: There's a big yellow plastic one like a Lego wig.

Gav: And I thought of getting it a few, but I didn't.

Dan: So this this is a good year in some there's a Spider Man movie this summer, there's um a an Avengers movie at the end of this year. Um there's a couple of other movies here and there. We've got Grogu and The Mandalorian, which isn't doing great. That's a Star Wars movie, but this Masters of the Universe movie

Dan: I said it, I called it last year when I saw snippets of it in the trailer and now the proper trailers come out.

Dan: And it's been it had its premium last week and people are saying this is gonna be the surprise hit of the year. People are blown away by it. Apparently it's very true to the cartoon and the toys.

Dan: It's very colourful, bright, camp. It's got all the characters in it that you wouldn't expect, like some of the back characters and stuff.

Gav: I don't think I'm gonna bother. Don't be offended.

Dan: It's got Brian May on the soundtrack. Okay. Um doing the the the theme and The Darkness have done a song called Masters of the Universe, funny enough, with Brian May on guitar. Um it looks

Dan: Incredible. It looks like everything I wanted from for the last forty five years. Good for you. Um so I'm very hyped for it and I'm probably gonna go and see it at least

Dan: twice uh in the cinema and support it. Um Jared Leto, yeah, okay, bit dodgy guy, but apparently his Skeletor is one of the best things in it. It's got Idris Elba in it as Man at Arms and it's got the guy that plays He Man, everyone is saying is

Dan: It's absolutely nailed He-Man. So it looks great. Battlecat, you name it. Everybody's in it. So I'm super hyped for Masters of the Universe in a couple of weeks.

Dan: I have the power.

Gav: I see how it goes. I don't know if I would but I don't know if I I would say to Elijah but he doesn't I hate the fact that I've got a son who doesn't like movies.

Dan: The problem is with Masters of the Universe is people who are in their forties and fifties are gonna go see it.

Dan: But that isn't probably the audience they're aiming at. So they are aiming at that audience a bit, but they also want to try and appeal to the kids that don't know anything about it. It's a hard sell.'Cause you've got Marvel and D C out there right now and then and all the other stuff, you know, Star Wars and so He Man is just trying to compete with these

Dan: Now he and He Man's been around for forty years.

Dan: franchise, but can it compete with Marvel? You know, people know Spider Man and Captain America and Batman and Superman, but not many kids will t tell you who Ma He Man is and Skeletor are. So we'll see. I'm excited for it and it's getting great reviews.

Gav: Right.

Dan: Well that's the last five months.

Gav: We've that's the longest intro we've done in a long time, but to be fair we haven't been here for a long time, so I think that's alright.

Dan: Well it's time for a trailer in that case then Gav for Return of the Living Dead and then when we come back we will get into some um whatever the chem whatever the chemical's called, two four five trioxin, a big barrel of that.

Gav: Which is not real for made up. But we know lots of facts and trivia on this movie and it's a great movie. So if you've not seen it

Gav: Stop the show now. Put the tape into your video player and press play.

Dan: It's only ninety minutes.

Gav: Brilliant film. Um, and we can't wait to talk about it. So here is a trailer for Turn of Living Dead from nineteen eighty five.

Gav: Dark of the light.

Gav: You see that movie Night?

Dan: The living dead shot. They should.

Gav: Well say hello.

Dan: And now the question How do we get them back?

Dan: No!

Dan: Brave.

Dan: Because technically, you're not alive.

Dan: Why do you eat?

Gav: Altyazı M.K.

Dan: That's already

Gav: It's not a bank.

Gav: Great.

Gav: The military.

Dan: Nervous.

Dan: The police are confused.

Gav: Well it ain't working.

Dan: It's not a bad question, Bert. It's not a bad question, Bert. It's not a bad question, Bert.

Gav: The return.

Dan: So here we go with our main review of the episode, The Return of the Living Dead from nineteen eighty five. Do you ninety one minutes?

Dan: Make love till we die. Just make love till we die. Uh ninety-one minutes of missed.

Dan: I miss films that just zip along like this and boy does this film zip along.

Gav: Do you know what? It uh this isn't a uh in a really inside thing or anything. Having a longer movie costs more money to make. It's pretty obvious.

Gav: Like it it's it's another few more weeks the sound editor has to be in there just going through the dialogue of that l extra twenty minutes you're putting your movie. Why? Why? Everybody, start making movies ninety minutes again.

Dan: So here's the synopsis and then we'll get into it.

Gav: Sorry.

Dan: Two bumbling employees at a medical supply warehouse accidentally release a deadly gas into the air. The vapor is cause the dead to rise again as zombies.

Gav: It's a brilliant film.

Dan: So yeah, let's there's a few things we want to talk about before we get into the sort of the nitty-gritty of this movie. So first of all, this um movie is very stylish and of its time, but in a great way, very similar to

Dan: um the some of the creep show segments or Night of the Creeps. Um it's not like your Romero type zombie movies. And the reason for that is because

Dan: At this point in the mid the mid 80s, believe it or not, there weren't actually an awful lot of mainstream zombie movies out there. We'd only really had

Dan: two Romero movies. And in fact, the year this came out, the third Romero movie came out not long after this one. So there weren't any

Dan: sort of cemented rules a around zombies or anything like that at this point, which is why Dan O'Bannon, the writer and director, who we'll get into in a moment, he takes he he's the one that if it wasn't for this movie, zombies wouldn't eat brains for a start.

Dan: Everybody thinks of zombies and what do they eat? They eat brains. Even my four year old boy knows that. Exactly. So this movie kind of came up with that. They're also these movies, these zombies can run, they can walk fast, they can talk.

Dan: They can use radios to call other paramedics and other police.

Gav: Uh he didn't want to do the saying it's not of living dead that say we're all kind of uh he wanted to give them some almost intelligence.

Dan: Yeah.

Dan: It's kind of like a lot of people thought this was because obviously it's called The Return of the Living Dead. It's a very cheeky um

Dan: title because it sort of implies that it might be related to the Romero movies, doesn't it? Um which is great. Great that they have that backwards and forward.

Gav: He did they did ask Amaro if he wanted to be involved. He didn't. Now um

Gav: The uh who is it from Knight of the Living Dead? Uh John Russo, I think. He had the rights to the name Living Dead.

Dan: That's right.

Gav: And I'm sure you were gonna probably say I'm sure you and I've got both exact same information. And he had that. Now he had actually wrote a book called Return of the Living Dead.

Gav: Dan O'Brann read that and they s and uh uh a com film company said to him, Do you want to direct? Now Dan O'Brann, I know we're gonna get onto it, but he started off

Gav: uh going to different film schools and three different film schools he went to. One said to become a director you need to become an ac actor. The other school said you need to be an editor. The other one said you need to be

Gav: uh actor, editor and writer. So he did the all those things trying to get and he's not happy the way his career went, but he's happy he got into films. But he's writing career which we get on to went off with uh Alien which we'll get on to. But anyway

Gav: Um, he read uh so finally he gets the chance to s uh direct a film and the c studio say to him, Do you wanna direct a film? And he's like, Absolutely and they're like, Right, h read this read this and he didn't want to do it'cause it is so close to

Gav: to uh Giorgio Romero's and he didn't want to step on George Romero's toes doing it so close to that and it was very serious and he's like, I wanna go complete opposite, which is like intelligent zombies, but actually kind of

Gav: comedy humorous movie, but played seriously, but that but humorous film. Um so that's that's why George Romero's not involved, but the Living Dead name still exists. But they still took the name of the John Russo book, which I don't know, you know, it so John Russo must have

Gav: Got some pennies for that if he had

Gav: the name Living Dead, whatever. So then George Romero went Day of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead, uh, without the living. Just take the living out. And that wasn't out. So yes, people could look at this it's a fodder on from those movies. And I think as a kid I probably did think it was in the same

Gav: Will House

Dan: And I saw this movie before I saw Night of the Living Dead.

Dan: Um this was a movie that we watched on Sky Movies when I was probably about fourteen or fifteen. And obviously really appealed to a fourteen or fifteen year old, especially the scene with trash dancing in the graveyard. Um

Gav: Uh mu most fourteen year old boys would probably remember that scene.

Dan: So before we get onto Dan O'Bannon and a bit of the background on this movie, just very quickly, it did spawn, surprise unsurprisingly, a list of sequels, which get worse uh as they go down. Um

Dan: Uh mm one, two, three, four, five, six. Six. Oh, there's six movies, so five sequels.

Gav: And a remake coming out next year of this film.

Dan: Exact well that's one of the ones. So yeah, Return of the Living Dead obviously. Then Return of the Living Dead Part two in nineteen eighty eight, which is an alright movie. It's fun.

Gav: After I watched this again last year, I watched it in October for my thirty one and thirty one, I was I'm gonna watch this again, I haven't watched it for ages.

Gav: I was like, that was so good. I was like, man, so I watched the trailer for the second one and it all came flooding back and I was like, This is just not as good but it's really weird. It's got the two main characters in this movie or in that movie but different playing different characters. It's weird.

Dan: Uh they then made Return of the Living Dead three in nineteen ninety three, which wasn't great, and then they did two Back to Black.

Gav: But unless you like goth chicks.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: And then they did two back to back movies, uh Return of the Living Dead Necropolis in two thousand and five in the same year, Return of the Living Dead Rave to the Grave.

Dan: Which may as well have starred Corey Feldman because they're just really low budget, really terrible films. But strangely, as Gav said, there is a remake coming this Christmas, twenty twenty six.

Dan: It's got some Christmas elements in there.

Gav: Oh no. Is that why? Okay.

Dan: Santa I saw something with Santa getting attacked by and eaten by zombies on the trailer or something.

Gav: watch it but it obviously obviously we have this one which we're speaking of and you know, it'd be a different film. It

Gav: I don't know. Th this was a bit of a film gods almost odd so this is this is the only movie Dano Brannan directed. Oh no, no, he says he did another movie.

Dan: No, it is no it is the only movie he directed. He directed a couple of things but this is the only movie he directed and and he he dropped the mic.

Gav: It's a weird though, innit?'Cause he wanted to be a director and he only did this one. And I d i he's really pissed when he watches the film he's pissed off'cause he sees the stuff that he tried he couldn't do and he wanted to so this movie would have been if it had the time and money

Gav: i this movie would have probably been fucking like even better. This could've been like yeah eight and a half, nine out of ten almost, like if he wanted to do what he wanted to do but he's just out of time. And I think the pressure of this probably put him off directs in films.

Dan: Yeah. Um, well, Dan O'Bannon is uh he's a a great director for the one movie he did, but he is an incredible writer.

Dan: Um and I just wanted to spend some time going through like you've already given us a bit of backstory on how we got into it. He wrote Darkstar with John Carpenter, um, which was John Carpenter's first

Gav: Film school, I think, yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Um so that was his kind of first real proper feature. And it's it's not a great movie, but you can see where him and John Carpenter were getting the feel for the game, you know?

Dan: Well he w then wrote Starbeast, which then turned into a it got turned into Alien, so it was originally called Starbeast.

Gav: Yeah, it's not the best name.

Gav: I would watch Star Beast, to be fair.

Dan: Yeah, I'd watch that too.

Gav: Of course you would. You'd watch Star Beast eight, the beast that hits harder.

Dan: Um he then wrote that which then got turned into

Dan: Alien, which the rest is history as they say. He continued writing. Um he wrote um Dead and Buried, for anyone that's seen that from 1981. Yeah, that's fun. Um Heavy Metal from the same year, which is the animated

Gav: I'd always see the comic uh the video cover in the video shop.

Dan: It's good. It's like gory, sexy, naked, animated, weird, road to

Gav: I reckon it was on channel four one night after the pub, I think. I sort of thought, What is this? and watched a bit of it, I think.

Dan: Yeah, it would have been. He obviously he wrote Return of the Living Dead, which is the only v movie he's directed. He also the same year he wrote he had a writing credit for Life Force, which this feels Similar to.

Gav: Toby Hooper was panned to direct this film.

Dan: That doesn't surprise me.

Dan: He worked well with Toby Hooper because he also direct uh wrote Invaders from Mars, which Toby Hooper directed as well. And then he gets a writing credit for every alien movie that's come out. So I won't bore you with all of those'cause we know all the alien movies. We've covered them all.

Dan: But he gets a writing credit for every single one of those'cause of the Ripley character.

Gav: In the new T V show. But it's nice to see his name though.

Dan: He adapted Philip K. Dick.

Dan: uh screenplay, we can remember it for you wholesale, which got turned into Total Recall. So he gets his writing credit for that'cause he turned that into a a screenplay, which is amazing. Um

Dan: And then Prometheus. He gets his writing credit for the total recall. But what a career. I mean Especially in the eighties, he was writing these amazing scri screenplays that were sci-fi horror and they were getting made by hungry directors like Toby Hooper.

Dan: and then grabbing people it did amazing practical effects and we're gonna be talking a lot about that for this movie.

Gav: Well uh we were just very lucky the eighties that I was gone through this before were very lucky, but in the video VHS home market

Gav: uh took off. Um, money like videotapes were you d uh they cost about seventy, eighty pounds a pop, um which was a lot of money then.

Gav: And th m money was just everywhere. So obviously there's some horror movies you're like, this is awful but we also got some

Gav: Incredible films which won't w nowadays now,'cause it's so hard to movies to get made now. Even the major ones, uh it's hard for'em to get made now. We weren't we we had such a good time for the something like this. Even though I was saying that Return of the Dead remake's coming out, so obviously the drills.

Dan: And to circle back around to something you said, I believe this is a film Gods movie and the reason for that is

Gav: I can't believe I can't

Dan: Don't talk about R. Kelly. Uh the reason for that is because there's several reasons. Firstly, it's funny.

Dan: It's secondly it's fun as well. It rips along really fast-paced. The writing is great. The way that the plot moves.

Dan: along and and makes the gas go into the air and then the rain comes down

Gav: The writing is fast. Uh this is casting. This is I'll tell you what, this is very interesting. I'll just place this in my head now. The fact that he learnt to edit films and he learnt to write.

Gav: Yeah. And Act would make him an amazing writer. The editor though would make him an amazing writer. He's looking at the end product which is getting edited at the end when he's writing it in the pro that's you know, that's very good.

Dan: Because there's elements of the writing in this that are very

Gav: Very flies.

Dan: Tragic.

Gav: Uh it's that's where it comes to the casting. Now the actors said that they really, really not Clue Gallagher and uh James Carran and Don Calfer who is Bert, Frank and Ernie.

Dan: Hiber.

Gav: Hi Bird. Um Hi Bird. Um they really enjoyed it. They said it was very much like doing a play.

Gav: Uh and we shot it I think they shot it in sequence as it goes in the film and they really enjoyed doing it and they said each of them had their own journey art

Gav: personal to them and they were treating the film very seriously but the humour just came out and the way their performances were and they just rolled with it but they play it pan straight as hell But the writing and the actors and their performance being let loose from the director going go for it.

Gav: just brings us out. Like amazingly we get on to but James Carron who plays Frank, he's the one who who at the end uh puts himself in the furnace to die.

Gav: He the only reason he came up with the idea was he was outside and it was pouring of rain and he's like, Oh, I don't want to be out in the fucking rain He said to him, I think my story, my arc would be that I would actually take myself inside

Gav: And he did that'cause he didn't want to be out in the rain, he came out of that idea.

Dan: He came up with the idea, he took his wedding ring off and hung it on the side.

Dan: Need a custom crew.

Dan: Yeah. Wow, that was a really moving scene. It's the only scene that doesn't really have any score, it's just like the other reason I think this is so clever is because it does pay homage to Romero. Um

Dan: For two in two ways. It mentions the Night of the Living Dead event.

Dan: But it does it in a way that it says you've seen that movie, right? So that movie exists within this movie, but also in this movie, The Night of the Living Dead is secretly based on a real life thing that happens.

Gav: At the beginning it says this is the real life. Yeah.

Dan: Oh I know. I love it.

Gav: I was just like, what the shit?

Dan: So essentially in this movie, The Knight of the Living Dead is a movie that was based on real life events and then it turns out that the government tried to cover up this like chemical that can bring the dead back to life and that's where Return of the Living Dead comes into it. So it's so so cleverly written. Um

Gav: So well.

Dan: It's almost ahead of its for nineteen eighty five it Oh.

Gav: Oh, God.

Dan: Easter eggs that are in it.

Gav: He would have been shooting this in eighty four, he'd been right in this in eighty, eighty one, you know. That's crazy.

Dan: Obviously not The Limit Dead has been out since the sixties, but even so the Easter eggs that are in this to the other movie

Dan: Fantastic. And it's so funny at times and and and sexy and and the gang. We all love crazy weird gangs. I mean it's got our buddy in it.

Dan: Estou sem enchiladas! Estou sem enchiladas!

Gav: Letters.

Dan: He plays um Spider in this, doesn't he? Um so we'll we'll talk about the gang in a minute when we get into the movie. But what a gang, what a gang.

Gav: Uh some of the extras in this actually ate calf brains. Uh nine ac extras ate calf brains and they got paid extra. Dan O'Brannan said to'em it's fine, look, and he sat there and ate some calf brains also.

Gav: That's what you don't do as a director.

Dan: I think the best character in this, watching it this time around, is Ernie. Um, Don Calfer. The way that he his character art goes from him just being a mortician

Gav: Like, we're we'll get into it, but the speed at this movie goes as well. Uh this was gonna be in three D because of like Friday Foot in three D, etcetera, and those sort of movies, Amteville three D were coming out and this was gonna be in three D, but then they dropped that. I'm so happy they did. Um

Dan: And talking of Friday the thirteenth, Freddy is played by Tom Matthews, who a lot of people will know as um Tommy Jarvis from Friday the thirteenth, part six, Jason Lives.

Gav: Absolutely. I always forget that. Um uh coming up.

Dan: It's got two references to Night of the Living Dead with Miguel Nunes and Tom Matthews.

Gav: They're back from the grave and ready to party is the uh tagline. And that was uh uh came up to from uh Simpson's creator Matt Gronin, came up with that idea.

Gav: Really? Yep, they went to him, so he must know him. And he came up with another one. They're they're they're not vegetarians and they're hungry, I think was another one.

Dan: Das ist nicht gut.

Gav: Yeah, I'm happy to get into this. Oh, I do own this on mini still sealed mini VHS tape.

Dan: Oh, je ook, ja.

Gav: Yeah, but you put in your camcorder when you're on holiday and you can watch it.

Dan: Hook that up to the T V when you're

Gav: So when when you've done your home recordings for the day you can come home and use it as a video player.

Dan: Amazing.

Gav: It's still sealed, it's fucking banging. I put

Gav: Quid. Uh I put it um crazy. I had a few of them and I should have just picked them all up, but there's movies I didn't know what they were. Really random movies I'd never heard of and I just didn't bother. I don't know why.

Gav: Um I put it up on the VHS group page on Facebook and a lot of people said, Yeah, this is da da da da da you can get some of these blah blah blah blah but it's pretty rare. It's still sealed as well.

Dan: I'd never heard of that until uh them doing that, releasing films in that format. That's crazy.

Gav: I'm off to carboot sal in the morning. Caboot sal it's bank holiday Monday. Uh one in my town. So I'm gonna go check it out. I've been there for twenty years, so I'm gonna go check that shit out tomorrow.

Dan: Make sure you pick me up some He Man figures if you see any as well.

Gav: Okay.

Dan: Okay, well let's get into

Dan: Return of the Living Dead, brains. So, as you say, as you mentioned earlier, we start off with a title card that says the events you're about to witness.

Dan: are based on true life events, which is absolutely love that. Um and I love the title card sort of telling you the time of the day and the day that it is because it all takes place over like it's forty hours really.

Gav: We do have a countdown essentially.

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: I do like the way this movie ends and I love this kernel when we get to it. Yeah. And w and then what do you do? Okay, and then but we get to it, but it's good.

Dan: Yeah. So we start off with the UNIDA medical supply lab.

Dan: And this is where Freddie's got his first day at work.

Dan: And he's being shown around by Frank.

Gav: Now this is straight away here, this is where a writer is also who's also an editor knows what the fuck he's doing and presumably he probably edited it as well. Can you check that for me while I say this?

Gav: I think that straight away we get into it.

Gav: Literally straight away they're being shown round. There's no flaff at all. There's no baggage, there's no loose ends whatsoever. Straight away they are like boom, here we go. And like this is what I'm gonna show you this and like their boss is there as well and he's going home.

Gav: But I love the fact we're just straight into the warehouse, into the movie, rolling straight away. I think that's really, really good. Did he did he chop it?

Dan: I'm just having a little bit more.

Gav: Um yeah, but I I I think you uh you can see through this film how uh w fast it nips through the um The dude knew what he was doing and it just does at no point at any you go, Oh, I wish it'd get on with it'cause it just moves so quickly.

Gav: Um

Dan: No, it was actually someone called Robert Gordon who edited it.

Gav: Interesting. Maybe uh alright, maybe not. Uh I'm sure he oversaw it though.

Dan: I'm sure he did. Like you said, he had a m an eye for it anyway.

Dan: This is like a kid candy store, this kids' candy store this place that this guy's Freddy's about to start working in because

Gav: If you if you want that sort of stuff, if that's your candy.

Dan: Because Frank's like, so this is where we keep the skeletons, this is where we keep the split dogs. Uh we'll get into it all now, but he's basically showing him around

Dan: He says, you know, the first job we got to do today is pack these skeletons up and he talks about how they're shipped over from India. Apparently they're real Indian skeletons.

Gav: Uh, they had they had some real skeletons and that's what they normally do. I think Indian skeletons are the ones normally are cured.

Dan: They actually no acknowledge that because they say the reason we always get skeletons from India is because they're so cheap and they're cheaper than making props, which is essentially the reason they have real skeletons in the film. Because it's cheaper than making props.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Um so which is crazy really. So they're they're packing up these skeletons into a big crate and

Gav: I hope more skeletons in horror maybe.

Gav: I'll be real happy.

Gav: Well, one of you listeners might be uh alive when I'm dead to find out, so let me know from beyond the grave.

Dan: With my surname it mine needs to be in a like a university. Yeah.

Dan: Bring out dumb bones and we'll show you where the ribs are on this one. This is the pelvis. Lots of thrusting. Um so Frank has got lots of gallows humour. He's sort of joking around and Freddy's a little initially a little bit like, Oh this is weird, all this.

Dan: sort of bodies and body parts and it's all medical equipment so it's crutches orthopedic instruments

Gav: We have the great crew Gallagher in it. Who um uh is it Gallagher or Gallagher?

Gav: Gulaga. And um he's there as their boss and he's like, Right, I'll see you guys later. I'm going away for the weekend and it's just him straight away going, then it's it's the best info dump is those him being shown around, but it basically is the audience going

Gav: We now know all of these three people what they are in seconds. That's the boss he's off. This is a warehouse in and out imports and exports of these bodies.

Gav: We know this character's the longstanding guy who's been at the job for a long time. He's now taken on the assistant and now we're gonna be showing around what this actually warehouse is. It's so good writing. It really is.

Dan: And everything he shows him around this medical warehouse we know is gonna come back later on in the film, so he shows him.

Dan: Split dogs. Everyone knows a dog in half that's been it's obviously a dead dog that's in half and and you know um what you call it.

Gav: The horse, wasn't it?

Dan: Yeah, and and it's for people to do, you know, medical you know, practice their m medical examinations on embeds and stuff like that. He shows them that they've got cadavers hanging in the freezer.

Dan: Um so there's like a body hanging up in the freezer. Again, we know these are all gonna come back later on.

Dan: So they're looking around the place and that's fine. Meanwhile outside we meet the gang. Now they don't have a gang and a gang name as far as I know.

Gav: Yeah, so we we look at this as a punk this is a punk rock zombie movie and th these guys are the reason you look at a movie like that. It's'cause we've got this group of punks. Now

Gav: There's uh as I was watching Sarah. Exactly. That's what I was thinking. But it comes across on the outskirts, it's all punk. But then you're like, hang on, there's some really innocent couple of females who are so innocent, you know they're innocent from their clothing, uh the way they speak.

Gav: And it's so bizarre, it's so weird then we've got one boy who's not, isn't there?

Dan: Even just the names, right? So here's the the names of the gnarly gang punks. There's spider, who's um

Dan: Oh baby. So there's Spider, there's Scuz, there's Suicide, who's the leader, and then there's Trash. And then you've got Trish.

Dan: You've got uh sorry, you've got Tina, you've got Chuck

Dan: And you've got Casey, who look like they shouldn't be in the gang. They're just wearing very normal clothes that are piercing from chains.

Gav: It's how have these guys got together? Why are they hanging out? What's going on? I don't understand.

Gav: And the w I do have an issue with this. Not a no not an issue, it's a really weird choice.

Gav: We get totally set up with the introduction of suicide as being the boss. He l he says what they're gonna do. He says we're going here, we're going there, he's the one that has the car, drives them around, he's the one that's leading them, he's essentially driving them.

Gav: to what what's gonna happen to them essentially. But he dies. He's the first one to go.

Gav: It doesn't make sense. I don't know why they set him up and then kill him. It made no sense. He looks like he should have pushed a zombie away and go, Oh fucking take you out and like actually killed a zombie, then go running off, do you know what I mean? It's so weird that he's taken out straight away. I don't understand it.

Dan: Maybe it's just to sort of demonstrate to the audience that no one is safe. I I don't know.

Gav: I don't know. It's a weird choice.

Gav: He's quite like he's quite likable, even though he's a dickhead, he's quite likable.

Dan: Th these guys are they're a bit like the gang from Demons, I guess in some ways, without the cocaine and they're sort of wandering around the streets going, Well we need somewhere to party tonight. Where should we party? I dunno and they're waiting for Freddie to finish work'cause Freddy's

Dan: doesn't get off work'til ten o'clock at this medical place that you just started working at. So they're all hanging out, playing music and they just want to they just want to party.

Gav: Let's go fuck up Freddy's jaw, but he's just started by turning up to it. Oh yeah.

Dan: Brilliant. So we cut away from them while they're deciding where to party and we cut back to Frank and Freddie who are sitting in the office filling out paperwork. And this is where they start talking about.

Gav: Frank and Eddie.

Dan: Frank and no, Frank and Freddie.

Gav: Oh yeah, sorry.

Dan: Um so they start discussing the night of the living dead. Yeah. And he's like, Oh, do you know that that was based on a a real government

Dan: cover up, you know, really? And he's like, Really? Yeah, really, yeah. And he said, um, basically like the bodies, um, you know, they started coming back to life and it's all because of this chemical and the chemical was called two four five trioxin.

Dan: blah blah blah and they're talking a bit more about it and it's a chemical spill and the spill went into a morgue and that made everybody come back to life. And then they brought some of the bodies here and Freddie's like, Yeah, right, whatever. Frank's like, Do you want to see'em?

Dan: Freddie says, see what? And he's like, see the bodies.

Dan: He's like, well of course I do.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: So of course they run down to the basement.

Dan: And this is where they open uh a barrel that says two four five trioxin on the side with a government telephone number as well, which comes back uh towards the end of the movie. And they open the borrow the body uh The barrel, sorry, and inside

Gav: don't open a barrel, he wipes it off so you can see into the gasket so dusty and stuff like that. And he kinda put he goes, Look at this you know.

Dan: And it's uh like a s a body in a sort of

Gav: Almost like with Galilee that it helps his story'cause he yeah, he's gone and said that this is the long story where this g sprays to k fucking stop cannabis, basically.

Gav: uh and it's made to like kill cannabis crops and they couldn't grow it basically. And then it got into like some

Gav: Into the morgue essentially like that and they've got the people and stuff and it's just sort of this whole thing. But I was thought i is he making this up just to like just to get a ruse from it or whatever?

Gav: And it's not

Gav: It it is. So it obviously goes down there like you said, shows him those canisters, says, Hey, look at this and he's like really gleeful with it. Yeah, check out these. Look at the look at the look at the squash little body in there and it's like, oh and it's like, oh that's good and he says it and he's like, Oh are these canisters strong, yeah? Course they're strong.

Dan: Smack the canister.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Gas comes out straight in their face.

Dan: And the score kicks in.

Dan: And a great scorer.

Gav: It's this this is basically now I think it's it's a credit stuff now as well.

Dan: The title card the title card kicks in now.

Gav: So it's basically going and that's why the movie goes so quickly, we've met these guys all of a sudden they're just sitting in the office, going downstairs, gone down there, hey look at this, bang and that's it, boom, zombies straight away, let's go.

Dan: I guess that's why this is called Return of the Living Dead,'cause that is one of the Living Dead from the original Living Dead story and he's you know, the made up story that's within this building.

Gav: Um they don't say uh uh George and Mary, but I actually say have you seen the movie Night of the Living Dead?

Dan: In Pittsburgh, yeah.

Gav: Which is so funny. Oh and it's quite nice. George Mara must been like okay that's I don't know.

Gav: I wonder what he thought of it. I'd love to have known.

Dan: We get a great quick shot of the flesh melting off of this tarman, as he will be fondly known by pop culture, uh within this barrel, turning him all sort of black and squishy.

Dan: and then we see the corpse hanging in the

Dan: Freezer starts twitching a bit and a few things happening around the place, so we know some shit's about to kick off because this gas has been released. But

Gav: We get like a four PM Pacific daytime and that's when we have the uh all of a sudden the introduction to the military and we just have a big limo going to a house.

Dan: That's right. Uh well before that the gang are just driving around blasting music. Oh yeah. And and they arrive at the medical supply and this is where Freddie works. Yeah, he finishes at ten PM. Well what are we gonna do until then? And then

Dan: They say, Well let's break into this cemetery and have a party in here.

Gav: No, the military stuff has happened before this.

Dan: Oh I do apologise, go then.

Gav: Um so uh we're into

Gav: Introduced to a general in this place as an overhead shot of a limo going into a guarded uh house and he goes in he goes this is like the most effels his wife. He goes in and says uh

Gav: He's like she's like, How how was your day? She's like in the Sarah's like, Do you want me to wear that? I was like, love you to wear that. It's like the uh this n very nineteen fifties pink dress thing. How was your day? It's crap like usual.

Gav: And it's just it's just like you know that that relationship they don't make love. Uh you know, it's just like they are just not happy whatsoever and she's the whole time on tiptoes with him and stuff like this and she's always oh, what's going on? What's happening? Or um

Gav: Anyway, he's this guy and he just goes um he's obviously top ranking and he's trying to explain to her again it's good writing. She's like, Oh blah blah blah and he says, Yeah, I told you I have to be uh call all times, when if they need me.

Gav: So we get an info dumper for who this person is and what's going on with their dynamic in this in this household. And it comes into play later.

Dan: She says to him, Have you found it yet? And he's like, Oh, you'd know if we'd found it.

Gav: So

Dan: you're like, well what is it? And obviously it is the barrel of of two four five trioxin. It's somewhere out there in America, they don't know where.

Gav: Yeah, and obviously it's so bad because of obviously the situation with what it can do. Um so Yeah, it's br I I l I like the fact that they've they make this movie that he uh, Dana Branham wrote this movie with a b an ending.

Gav: Yeah. There's an ending. There's a definite ending. It's like, no, this is a one and done. It doesn't need to have a part two, I think, personally.

Gav: Okay. I wonder what the remake I wonder if the remake will be one and done. Probably. Uh well not as in uh sequels, but I mean like the ending.

Dan: The ending. Yeah.

Dan: Well then sorry, then so I jumped ahead. So then we see the gang breaking in breaking into the cemetery. Um and th they are going there with their boom box and the sun is setting on them. So back to Freddie and Frank in the

Gav: I feel so bad for these two. Like you know, like you can imagine the situation. You've both like you've both cough something, you've in it it's

Gav: This movie has some a few disturbing parts in it which are real serious and like give you a lot a uh uh a a waking a slap in the face to life in a way, these this movie has. Really interesting stuff in it is it's

Gav: It's works on so many levels, maybe very intelligent movie. You think it's just s schlock. I imagine people in the video shop when they pick this up back in the day like, Oh this just being L shit and just be like, Oh my god, this is a great movie. Hence it's like seven out of ten on R D B.

Gav: Um but you can really feel for them and they wake up and they're just coughing and you know that there's something wrong and they both know that oh god, we fucking that's really bad that we breathe that in and I feel so bad for them as it gets worse and worse. It's so horrible. The fact that they slowly are just

Gav: They die and they just they're just roting away

Dan: Horrible.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Well they realise not only has that happened to them, but they realise that the corpse isn't in the barrel anymore.

Dan: Um and then they hear a dog and we as an audience know what that noise is. And they go upstairs and the split dogs are alive.

Dan: Line like writhing around on the floor.

Gav: And it's it's it's really hyper now in there. Ba base attention just goes completely up'cause they're ill as fuck, but then they're trying to figure out what to do.'Cause at first th they're still in the oh, we don't want to lose our jobs territory, or what we're gonna do.

Gav: Not not their own lives and think about their lives. They think they're probably gonna be alright. They're like oh we're still in that chain of thought. So oh my god, right, pressing fact now what we could do, we need to get figure this out what to do.

Gav: Do you know what I mean? Where you shouldn't think that if you're about to die you'd be like, Oh my god, I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die. That would be your main thought. So it's very interesting that this they've got a a a a a um a roller coasteral uh curve arc curve to them, if that makes sense.

Dan: He grabs a crutch and he starts smashing the split dog.

Dan: Until it stops sparking. Yeah. Um we see some butterflies that were pinned to the wall, dead butterflies that are all now flapping their wings.

Gav: In fact he just goes, I know what I can do And he starts spraying deodorant around the room.

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: Yeah, that's gonna make it so much better.

Dan: And then they hear terrifying screaming coming from the freezer where the body is.

Gav: It's very reanimizer.

Dan: And it's just a

Gav: Which is the same year.

Dan: Yeah. Well, yeah.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Oh yeah. And then you ha then you just say this Somebody just who's this guy's obviously woken up.

Gav: And it's as disturbing as Reanimator as well.

Dan: Um the freezer starts bursting open and they're like, well, what are we gonna do here? Um let's call the boss.

Dan: So Frank calls Bert on the phone and says, Hi boss, um just need to talk to you about an incident that's happened here. Cut away from them.

Dan: Back to the gang in the graveyard.

Gav: do say when they're trying to work out a plan what to do, they do go, Oh, we could ring the army, there's a number on the canister and they're straight away, No, we're not doing that. That's not what we're doing'cause obviously they don't want to get in trouble. There's still that frame of mind where like they're gonna wake up tomorrow morning.

Gav: be absolutely fine. You know, the cough's gone, that's no problem, you just uh you just beaved and you'll be fine. But we got we got our job still. That's their train number four still, which is is so interesting.

Dan: So the the gang are in the graveyard waiting for Freddy's shift to finish and trash is feeling horny.

Gav: Right, this is uh Linnae Quigley, uh, who's in lots of movies getting her boobs out.

Dan: She sat there with her legs open talking to Smider about Oh, doesn't death make you horny? Doesn't death make you horny?

Gav: Really hot and turned on from this. It's such a weird weird thing.

Dan: She she predicts her own death'cause she says my ultimate fantasy is to have twelve men attack me and eat me to death.

Gav: I hadn't realised that when watching this again. I went to Sarah I went, That's a really weird fantasy. Why are they uh got be old?

Gav: Just just straight when they're their teeth false teeth gonna fall out, you know.

Dan: And then she says Spider s spider looks at her and he says

Dan: You're crazy. Because he's like, I just want a damn Angelada.

Gav: That's it.

Dan: Damn it, but I'm not sure.

Gav: Um and so she decides to get naked and uh and they're like, Hey, she's getting naked again

Gav: Uh uh she does it. But apparently um uh they ha they had to make a groin piece for her, which is like a Barbie doll flat piece to attach to her because um it was too the full front basically showing her vagina was too much

Gav: for the MPA and they thought they'd get an X rating and they're like, you know, we don't want that.

Gav: Um, so they had to make this so it's n now you look at it and you're like, Oh, she must which I assumed would have been um like most people, oh it's a shaved vagina, which probably makes it even more

Dan: Well, yeah, I'm sorry for you.

Dan: She was told to shave her vagina because they didn't want to show the pubic hair. But then when they came to do the scene they were like, We can't we can't show

Gav: Vagina.

Dan: So they were like, get the Barbie piece now. So she's she climbs up, they shine their torches on her, and they're all like, Whoa.

Gav: Yeah!

Dan: And she really goes for it. And boy, this was quite life-changing as a sort of 14-15-year-old boy, I must say. Probably for the same for a lot of people.

Gav: Many feelings came out of you, I'm sure.

Dan: They came right out of me. Um so yeah, she dances um and uh the song We're gonna make love till we die comes on great soundtrack then.

Gav: That this s this song is very, very uh it reminds me very much of Friday night, uh one of the sort of uh soundtrack of that which is exactly same era. Um I do like now we cut back to the got main guys but there's no faff at all.

Gav: Clue's back again, the boss is back there talking to him in the room. We've got no of him knocking at the door, them opening it up, anything like that. Boom, we're straight back in there and he's there. W and I love the fact that we do this movie moves like this. It's great.

Gav: So he's

Gav: Clue's so good. With those guys as well, though they those three are really, really good.

Dan: And he's he's stressed. He's like, I don't wanna lose this business, I've been running this business for years And he's but then Frank's been his employee for years so he's like, Well look, here's what we're gonna do. I think we're gonna have to cover up the evidence.

Dan: And he's like, how are we going to cover up the evidence? And he's like, oh, I don't know. We're going to have to destroy it somehow. And then they hear, oh

Dan: Ah the guy in this freezer still screaming and he's like, H but how do we kill the dead? How are we gonna kill these guys? And he says, Remember that film? Remember that film? They said you've got to destroy the brain.

Dan: It's gonna destroy the brain.

Gav: Well it's that's what happens in a movie, they destroy the brain. Yeah, yeah, well that's what we gotta do. It's really like that sort of the tensions real built up. They're really

Gav: Those two are getting sicker and sicker, but they're still like focusing on the main thing, but the back of the mind they're just getting worse and worse. Ah such a good film.

Dan: And the makeup for them as the movie goes on, they're getting they look deader and deader, which appropriately they are, you know. Um yeah, it's great great a very subtle, great lake makeup of them.

Gav: No movie.

Dan: Which one?

Dan: Like dumb and dumber, but deader and debtor.

Dan: I'd love to say that.

Dan: Oh he never made a twin movie, but he should have.

Dan: There's not enough ego in the world for two cigars.

Gav: I I've got uh my new car that I've got uh uh on the licence plate, it's got number plate. It's got um the garage where it came from.

Gav: uh originally when it was first bought the D Toyota dealership and it's Steven uh Nigal

Dan: Oh close.

Gav: That's so close. I'll take photos.

Dan: Here's why you wanna bu here's why you wanna buy this car, okay?

Dan: I will chop you I will chop you in the throat if you don't buy this car.

Gav: Uh Elijah and I Elijah and I like to do um I don't a I say like to, I don't I'm getting bored of it now and he's getting a lot bigger. He likes to fight me all the time, play fine all the time. But I've d I do Steven Sagana, he comes at me and I just do loads of hand stuff at him.

Gav: Mm.

Dan: Um so they talk about how they're gonna kill how they're gonna kill this thing that's in the freezer. So he's still the boss at this point, um Ernie's um Bert. So he says to Frank, grab that pickaxe.

Dan: And go over there and you guys are gonna open the freezer door and then whatever is in there comes out, you're gonna chop it in the head with this pickaxe.

Dan: Um so are you sure? Yeah, we're gonna do it. So they open the door and this corpse comes running out of there, charging out of

Gav: I don't think they had a clue for any point that is gonna come to him. I love the fact it just sig is s siglls him out and goes, I'm fucking having it and goes right for him.

Dan: And it's quite scary'cause um at this point in cinema you've never seen a running zombie before.

Gav: And it's really horrible. It's all yellow. It looks like Morph, if Morph is a real life person.

Dan: Yeah, and also it's in pain and it's sort of screaming in pain. You can tell it's in pain, so it's like all these emotions you're feeling. Um so yeah, it attacks Burt.

Gav: And it's light in how old disturbing it is in Reanimator when it's the big musty guy.

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: So disturbing. Yeah.

Dan: So i they manage to get it down on the floor and um Bert does it himself. He swings the pickaxe straight into the skull of this thing.

Gav: Let's do anything.

Dan: I'm screaming.

Gav: It's it's really good a ma uh effects as well, really good.

Dan: What are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do now? So he goes oh wait, hold it down. He goes off and grabs a hacksaw.

Dan: And he just starts sawing through the back of his neck.

Gav: And then what happened?

Dan: Well, while he's doing that,'cause that seems to take too long, and they're all going, Oh my God, oh my Freddie's like this is

Gav: So hectic as well. So hectic. And those two are really sick as well. I know it's his first day on the job. Oh my god.

Dan: And then as soon as they cut cut it loose from its head, the body gets out without a head and then some Mashing around the place.

Gav: He runs after it's on the rugby tackles his naked but headless corpse down to the floor.

Dan: And then he says, what are we going to do?

Dan: Different we've got some different acids here. They they would dissolve it, maybe. Oh, I don't know. And then he says, hang on a minute.

Dan: I know s I know somebody that might be able to help us.

Gav: He looks over to Ernie, his mate, longtime mate of twenty years, which we discover. Uh looks over to see if he's working late and he is. And what does he do?

Gav: So what does that mean?

Dan: It means he's got a s a big furnace to burn the bodies and pieces and stuff in and he says Maybe if we go over there, we could I could persuade him to help us?

Dan: And he could cremate it, cremate this when we could destroy the evidence. Yeah.

Gav: So

Dan: Well how are we going to get all this over there? And he says The last bit of this scene he just goes Grab me a bone saw and then it just cuts away.

Dan: It's got Evil Dead elements in this as well. It's it's just a great time in cinema.

Gav: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Early eighties. Um and then we got a timeline, Pacific timeline again, so like a clock a countdown. Uh then we just got the graveyard, uh just going back to them to show that they're still there and they're more nudity, uh, essentially.

Dan: Well Trash doesn't really get dressed for the rest of the movie after

Gav: No, no

Gav: Check it, yeah.

Dan: Um, so they they're sort of hanging out waiting still. And at this point Tina thinks she's seen Freddie.

Dan: into a place and they're like

Gav: Why would she why would Freddie be doing that, they say? I think it is. So she decides to go and uh go look.

Gav: Um, and uh then we cut back to where they were going, which is to go and see their mate Ernie. And what's Ernie? Ernie's Ernie's in there embalming a big, big, large man.

Dan: Yeah. And he's great. Like I said, he's my favourite character in this Don Gulf. I love the way he plays it.

Gav: He um uh uh uh as an actor he did he read the script over and over and over and over like he was doing a play.

Gav: Uh I know they re actors read the script over and over anyway, that sounds silly to say that, but apparently he d he looked at it more as in the play terms, uh I think, and he really wanted to get into it like in a almost a a Shakespearean way or something. It apparently said that he's not really going into it, so

Dan: But there's a lot of depth to his character. He carries a gun. He listens to music. He's very m meticulous about his work. He takes it very seriously. With the headphones on, he reminds me a little bit of um Bud, the zombie from the Romero movie with the headphones. Um Not both the child, no. Um

Gav: He's doing that and he's got headphones on, he can't hear anything. And old uh Cougar, Clu Gallagher, old Bert starts knocking at the door and slowly opens the door. Hey, Ernie.

Gav: Ernie and he sort of goes in there'cause he and starts in a but

Gav: Uh and he turns around with a gun, almost a shooting goes Oh oh takes off his spun his orange sponged eighties headphones. Oh oh my god come up at me like that. So that's where he's at.

Dan: Like what's his backstory? Why does he why is he so quick on the draw with a gun? Working in

Gav: I love it, I love it

Dan: Um and he says, Look, Ernie.

Dan: I need a favour.

Gav: Before that he actually says to him um he says uh Bert's trying to be like it's an average knight and he's just turned up he's like uh so uh what what you doing there, Ernie? He says he

Dan: Hey, come here. Come here.

Gav: Come here, come here closer. And he says, See, Rigamortis and he tells us information about Rigamortis. And why is he telling us about information about Rigam Mortis?'Cause later on the characters are gonna actually have Rigamortis c happen to them in uh live form uh in real time.

Dan: He explains how I recommended.

Gav: Actually move the armor joint and get it back going.

Dan: Because a lot of people think Riga Mortis once it hits that's it, but actually Rigor Mortis only lasts for a few days or a few hours and then the body gets loosened up. But he's he's actually loosening up this their body now.

Gav: Yeah, and he's explaining that that's what's going on. And he sort of says, So, okay, so uh what could I do to you? And he says, Well, how long we been friends, uh Ernie? Uh

Dan: Uh twenty five years.

Gav: Uh twenty five years? Uh I need a favour. Okay, you can try you can count on me.

Dan: And he says, We got a shipment coming.

Gav: And

Dan: Unfortunately the shipman was alive and they're like, What do you mean? And he he says, Hang on, I'll show you. And he goes, No, don't bring more people in, it's illegal. And he brings in Frank Freddie.

Gav: And they bring all these bags in which are moving so.

Gav: And he's like rabbit weasels.

Dan: I love that line. Rapid weasels.

Gav: Weasels. Well you you can't and he goes, Can we I wonder if we could burn'em? He's like, You can't burn rabbit weasels. Take'em let's take'em out to the parking lot. I'll shoot'em, and uh job done.

Dan: And at this point we notice that Frank and Freddie are looking worse for wear again.

Gav: Worse and worse and worse, it's brilliant. I love the fact that that's going on.

Dan: He says, All right, I'll tell you the truth, Ernie.

Gav: He's like, Can you swear, keep me a secret? It's like, Yeah, okay, w w w what is it?

Dan: And he rips open a bag, um the arm comes out and the hand grabs hold of him.

Gav: It's like the hand with Evil Dead with Bruce Campbell and his arm just grabs it and he's like, What the hell? What the? Get it off me! Get it off me screaming at him and it rips his uh

Gav: Yeah, and he's what the fuck like and it's like, Yeah. Uh it's not what you normally see. But luckily he does work with dead bodies so

Gav: The a uh the shock is that the arm should not be moving like that, that's for sure. It's very reanimated though, isn't it? It feels like. Um you can have a nice crossover of these with Herbert West.

Gav: Um that's been remade by the way with Malcolm McDowell. I don't think they should do it personally. I think you should leave it and not bother. I don't think I think make a different movie.

Dan: and I was like

Gav: No. Um anyway, um it's a good title, that's why. Um yeah, so um i at least he's not shocked by the dead bodies, but he's sho definitely shocked'cause the arm's moving.

Dan: So we cut away from them back to the graveyard and the gang are like, Hey, it's almost ten PM that means Freddy's finishing work soon.

Gav: One of the girls says, Oh fudge It's like it's totally different to that girl. She's totally naked, d wanting to bang dead people uh or whatever and you're just saying, Oh fudge Total different dynamic going on here.

Dan: Meanwhile Tina is still heading over to the medical supply place to try and find F um Freddie. So she's on her way there on her own.

Gav: Sarah noted for me, which I noted down. Thank you, Sarah, for your nota notation. Um she said, Why are all the men so sweaty but the women on? And I was like, I don't know. All the men are just like dripping and it's like the women are not. It's really weird.

Dan: Well probably because Trash is naked, so she won't be hot, will she?

Gav: Maybe maybe maybe they're all sweaty'cause yeah, she's naked and they're like, Oh yeah.

Dan: So we cut back to Bert and Ernie. Oh hi Bert. And they Ernie's agreed to help. He's like, Yeah, okay, I'll I'll help you with the furnace. Um let's get everything loaded in

Gav: What's in it for me?

Gav: And he says, uh whatever you want, man, and he thinks about it for a while. And I thought he was gonna say then, okay, I want and say something, but he doesn't and it again, brilliant writing later on.

Gav: He says, you know that uh that favour you g uh you gave me, he says for any he says, Yeah. He goes, Look after yourself, make sure you come back.

Dan: Well a nice guy. That's so good.

Dan: So he says Bert says to him, Can you be sure?

Dan: that everything will be gone from these from these bodies that are wriggling around. He says, All that will be left is some some of the bone and the heart is really hard to burn'cause it's a big, tough muscle And he's like, No, no, I need the heart gone as well. And he's like, All right

Dan: I'll turn it up even hotter and he's like all that'll be left is ash. And then Bert's like, No no no, I don't even want the ash and he's like, All right, I'll put it up to the highest setting and there won't be anything left of them, I promise.

Gav: Ernie then comes to Ernie says, Uh that's not f anything fucking big, I could operate that furnace. But it's like hang on, uh no, you don't own a furnace.

Gav: I don't know why he's all of a sudden he's dying, but he's all of a sudden pissed off that this guy can operate a furnace and he's not doing it. I find it very strange. That's a really weird part.

Dan: No this is this is just like a snowball effect now, because what they don't realise is

Dan: The smoke from that furnace then goes up into the atmosphere, into the cloud the storm clouds, and we get acid rain coming down that's got the two four five trioxin in it. Which

Gav: Actually the rain that they use because you can't just use water on set, you can do water with a little bit of milk.

Gav: to give it a bit more so it's seen on camera. But they did I think they did s uh a coloured die and then they did a couple of chemicals in it to make it so it's so actually people were getting a bit of a problem and Lena Quidley or whatever her name is.

Gav: uh being all naked she was um She actually got a little bit of uh skin whatever.

Dan: Yeah, I I read about that. Real real acid rain. Yeah.

Dan: And we we see this great shot of the thunder and the clouds and the rain coming down and then of course the rain is directly over the graveyard which is full of hundreds and thousands of bodies.

Gav: And the theme song starts playing and we just have like these slow montages basically of just the camera going through the dark graveyard.'Cause this is all set at night time, it's just lovely, lots of fog, smoke, moonlight, rain, it's great, you know.

Dan: Halloween movie actually.

Gav: Yeah, yeah. I w I watched it all time, it's brilliant.

Dan: And it's got a great shot where the and we've seen it before, but where the camera goes down through the ground into a coffin and then the rain is gonna trickle down to all these

Dan: Doesn't we don't see them yet, but we know these bodies are all gonna get infected by this trioxin. Yeah. Um so yeah, Tina is in the factory.

Dan: Still looking for Freddie and the others get in the car because the rain oh the rain's burning my skin. What is this rain? Acid rain, I don't know. So they all get in the car to get out of the

Gav: Rain go back to the furnace and everything's burnt up. And now though great the problem sorted out. At that point then, uh

Gav: Frank and Freddie both are just like oh my god they sit down and go'cause uh like their main problem's gone. All of a sudden, this is why it's such great writing, all of a sudden they their mind snaps back to the reality of their own health.

Gav: And they just go, Oh we're really sick and he sits down and that's where Clue go uh but Bert the boss then goes, Oh sh oh great that problem sort of

Gav: And he's like, Oh, my next problem I got sort of outside these two. What do you mean you're sick? What's wrong with you? He hasn't almost noticed that they're sick because of what's been going on because they've had a reanimated body they had to cut up, which must be fucking quite

Gav: Focus pulling. Uh, you know, he hasn't noticed what's going on with his members of staff. So so he's like, Shit, what's wrong with you guys? And then he starts to say what's going on. Um so

Gav: Um uh he's uh uh he's like to Ernie like you probably need to fucking g get an ambulance over and he's like, Okay, no rights, rings up Ernie rings up an ambulance. Who he's pretty shocked as it is, but he rings up an ambulance.

Dan: Well they say they've got terrible headaches, they both feel really sick.

Gav: Yeah, they breathed in the chemical gas.

Dan: And then oh man, that w yeah, okay, let's call an ambulance then. So it only calls nine one one.

Gav: Yes.

Dan: And he says, I think we've got two men that may have been poisoned. They breathe in some kind of chemical or some kind of gas. Then he says, They're on the way, Bert so we know that some an ambulance is coming.

Gav: I won't start for the punks, unfortunately. We cut to them'cause this is why this movie goes bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. We're just fucking things are moving straight away every scene. It's a very good w film.

Gav: I wish Dana Brannon had written and directed more films. I really do.

Dan: Um, you know, think of Aden, that was one location.

Gav: He wanted to direct Aiden and he was pissed off he couldn't do it, but then he was super happy though when he saw what Ridley Scott did.

Dan: Yeah, I bet he was. Imagine that. Imagine you wrote that and Riddle Scott took it and directed it and turned it into that.

Gav: It into a massive thing. It's so pop culture. Oh you know, that's huge. Everybody knows Xenomorphs, you know.

Dan: Um, so we're in the gang's car and there's a point of view of something heading towards them.

Dan: And then we start seeing the corpses digging themselves up, a skeleton comes out the ground.

Gav: Someone does go, do you hear that in the car? But I don't know how you hear anything. The rain is so loud, but okay. Uh but she she's saying that they basically this the zombies starting to come out of the ground. And that's when we have a lot of slow mo POVs through the graveyard. Uh evil dead star.

Dan: Yeah. Back to Tina who's now in on her own in the medical supply place and there's a mess everywhere and she doesn't really know what's going on and then she goes down into the basement.

Gav: This is so good.

Dan: And this is where she meets

Gav: Tarman. Tar see Tarman is another character which should not have died so quickly. Tarman is

Gav: So so good, but it's almost like less is more. Tom Man is come across as one of the best zombies in zombie movies and he's on screen for fucking ten seconds.

Gav: He's so good. Yeah.

Dan: Effects are great.

Gav: Basically they got this very, very skinny guy called Alan Troutman, like Colonel Troutman. Um uh who

Dan: We should try.

Gav: Uh who was really, really, really, really skinny and so they could apply a lot of makeup and then they said to him like well basically like if you move too much sort of way your body would break because you weight

Gav: Y y you know, you're you're so brittle your bod bones and stuff, you're gonna break. So he worked out that walk, so it's sort of the left and right, so it's almost like he goes about

Gav: Like he would break one side, he pulls it back to the other side. It's really exaggerated movements to the side with a big smiley face with big eyeballs still and a big tongue.

Gav: Yeah. So good.

Dan: And that's the first time we hear a zombie talk, really bra.

Gav: It's so good.

Gav: Tarman. It's like you could actually probably make a movie called Tarman and you know.

Dan: It's um pop culture isn't it? That like you said, that that ca this character, this zombie, is cemented a bit like Bud from the Romero movie, cemented in in zombie pop culture and just horror pop culture.

Gav: More tall man, so it's just the way it looks as well.

Dan: Um, the gang are starting to head over there as well. Um so Tina's being chased around by this Thailand guy. The gang arrive just in time and they they hear a screaming.

Gav: He problem solves. She g locks herself in a cabinet. He realizes he could put some chains on it and put on it, uh probably open the doors. Easy now. Problem solving zombies. Okay.

Dan: No shit. So he rips the doors off just as the gang come in and they're like, what the fuck is going on in here?

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: And they could just see this like black gooey zombie thing ripping the doors off with chains and Tina's like, Ah oh my god, oh my god And as soon as they walk in, like you said, suicide walk straight in and Tarman just bites straight into the top of his head.

Gav: I g yeah, which is weird he shouldn't have gone, but I guess if anyone's gonna take him out, I'm glad it was time, man.

Gav: Yeah, true.

Gav: But but it's uh weird that he comes straight in it. It should have been another of the characters who we didn't really know'cause I feel like his arc would have been he kept going and almost

Gav: He could have actually had an arc himself where he actually got right to the end and had like a whole thing. So it's a really that's a weird choice, I thought.

Dan: But ta Tarman eats his brains and then he looks up and he says he sees the others and he says, Oh, more brains.

Dan: And they're like, bye!

Gav: And we cut back it's so quick, it's gonna fries. We cut back to the guys and the paramedics are now there. So again, we don't have the paramedics turn up, they're just there working on the guys.

Dan: Now this is one of my favourite scenes.

Gav: It's is the paramedics play it really straight.

Dan: This is why.

Gav: Their acting is so like it's like almost they've stepped out of a uh ER or uh another movie. Movie George Clooney or something, I don't know, any other movie. And then they're just there going, Tell us what's going on. We need to discuss it. It's they're so good.

Dan: I love it when they do this in movies.

Dan: I love it when they do it in movies where they have like a real medical thing and they're like, Oh, this shouldn't be and this is why I love the autopsy of Jane Doe'cause that whole film is them going, Well this can't be well this can't be

Gav: That's why like say Robert Rodriguez for um uh uh Plant Terra actually uh got his real life physician to do the uh the medical stuff.

Gav: You know, sometimes it's good to actually have that. I'm not saying that these paramedics are real paramedics, but it plays like it for sure.

Dan: Well they they come in and they both go to one goes to Frank, one goes to Freddie.

Gav: I love I love this. And when they switch as well, I love that. Yeah.

Dan: They're checking them and they're like, mm, weird, my equipment's not working. Is that mine too?

Gav: So they're basically got the test scope uh on and they're trying to listen to the uh uh the hearts of the and they're like, Okay, uh ch let's ch let's swap and they swap their their uh about to say their victims. They swap their patients.

Dan: And they go over in the corner of the room and they start having a little whispered conversation and they're like, What are you guys talking about?

Dan: Well it's great.

Dan: I mean I'll tell you what we're saying. Um basically You've got no pulse, you've got no blood pressure, there's no heartbeat.

Gav: You mean I got no blood pressure?

Dan: And then he says in your room temperature.

Gav: You're dead. We're dead! No, no, no.

Dan: But we're not saying you are dead, because clearly you're not.

Dan: All the signs are there and they're just like, What the fuck is going on with these two? And Bert's like, Oh Jesus Christ, this is not gonna be my night for my business, is it? This isn't going well.

Gav: Uh and he's probably thinking this ain't good for my business either.

Dan: So back to the gang who are now barricaded in a room with tarman outside.

Dan: And they manage to escape through a different door and they go outside and the corpses and the skeletons all start rising up with

Gav: Do you wanna...

Gav: Yeah, it was playing in the background.

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: It's not a punk punk.

Dan: And they're all very, very wet from the rain, these guys. And and so is the graveyard. And the graveyard's already flooded. It's a great set because it's this like dark.

Dan: misty graveyard with like two in three inches of rainwater on the floor, and all these zombies. And I there's nothing better than zombies pulling themselves out out the ground. That's why I love Spanish and Italian.

Dan: zombie movies'cause you don't get that a lot in sort of the western ones really. So it's good to see excuse me, it's good to see um the zombies pulling themselves out of the ground and they're a mix of like

Dan: Yeah, half rotted, fully rotted, skeletons, that kind of thing, you know? Yeah. Um yeah, it's great stuff. Uh and they all rise up with that song. Um Trash gets her twelve men wish at this point.

Dan: Um yeah, trash gets eaten by twelve old zombies, just like she wished for. So that's kind of the end of her for now. She will come back later on undead.

Gav: Uh it's yeah, when she comes back you're like uh it's there she comes back, it's kind of like that m that morning after and you were already drunk last night and you pulled and y and y you look and you're like, Oh my god

Gav: Ha ha ha ha ha.

Dan: Uh, the gang start banging on the door of the mortuary and Ernie lets them in and's like, What the hell's going on? And he's like, Please you gotta help us. Can you hear them? And outside you can just hear dozens and dozens of s people screaming, dead people screaming

Gav: I know it is so good'cause it c inside this uh uh mortuary, Ernie's mortuary, it just gets more and more hectic. The film gets more and more hectic. It really does. I really enjoy it.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: So the the paramedics at this point are like, Well, we've gotta go and get the stretchers to get your buddies out of here'cause they're showing up as dead.

Dan: Even though they're not. So they go outside in the rain to the ambulance And they're attacked and killed.

Dan: by zombies. Yeah. Um and that's the end of the paramedics. Bert realizes what's happened, he's like, Oh Jesus, the the the trioxin is it must be in the rain and it's affecting everybody around or this graveyard around us.

Dan: Um Chuck and Casey, who were the two sort of more normal of the gang, they managed to find a phone to try and call the cops from an office. So they call the cops now as well.

Dan: Tina manages to find Freddy and obviously she finds him and he's looking like an absolute corpse at this point when she finds him. And he's like lying on the ground all pale and

Dan: She's like, My God, what did you do to Freddy? Freddie, are you okay? What's happened? And uh Ernie sees, oh look, the empty ambulances are outside. And he shoots a zombie and he runs back in and says to everybody, They've killed the the paramedics.

Dan: Um so that they we've got to barricade all the windows and all the doors and they start that process now of going around with any furniture they can find, wood, nails, um the phones are all dead, so they can't call anybody.

Dan: Um the zombies are battering at the door and they say, we gotta get some weapons.

Dan: So they go and arm themselves very dust till dawn. Obviously this way before then. Um

Dan: Uh my favourite moment now, and this this is a joke that comes back again, is the zombie that gets on the radio in the ambulance and he says, Send more paramedics'cause he knows there'd be more brains for them to eat.

Dan: So that okay we're on, we'll send more paramedics to you.

Gav: I've seen uh I've seen the band I think two or three times send more paramedics. It was a band. No.

Dan: Nice, that's cool. Cool name for a band.

Dan: Um, back in the embalming room, Bert tells everybody what's happened and he tells everybody about the military chemical. Um, you know, this is this is why th this is the t there's a r scientific reason for all this happening, as scary as it is.

Dan: And then Freddie's really writhing around in pain, he can barely move. And this is where the Rigor Mortis conversation comes back around now. And he says, Show me your back.

Dan: It lifts up his shirt and its whole back is a giant brood.

Gav: Did you say about Ernie going out to the ambulance? Yeah. Oh, sorry, I must be fucking...

Gav: Or look at my notes. Because the the little zombie at which is out there which only encounters. Did you speak of little zombie?

Gav: There's a zombie there which has got um very sort of uh small arms and legs, would you say?

Gav: I don't know what condition that is.

Dan: Yeah, like almost like philinymide type.

Gav: Yeah, um and it's a zombie. Um that that was um a homeless person. Um they said, Do you wanna d do that? And they was like, Yeah, absolutely.

Dan: Amazing.

Gav: Yeah, yeah, totally. Uh he said though, I've been in loads of horror movies before.

Gav: And they're like, alright, fair enough. And he goes, Yeah, I've quite a part in this one, though, Yeah, yeah, no worries. So yeah. Um and i yeah, it's quite it it's kind of weird, almost slightly disturbing. It runs after him as well. It's not not saying that in a disrespectful way.

Dan: So Erin describes the rigor mortis that Freddie's suffering with, you know, he sees his big bruise on his back and he's like, It's you're you're starting to have Rigor Mortis set in, like you're dead. Your body thinks you're dead.

Dan: And they look outside and the other ambulance arrives and is immediately attacked and killed everybody in there.

Dan: Literally every time someone turns up, whether it's the police

Gav: Yes. Yeah, that's the like anyone comes in is gonna get killed and it's uh r I love the fact that that's what's going on. I I like the fact that they're completely like trapped in that building, but they're also trapped in a sort of s a circumference radius as well. Outside.

Dan: Because because then we get the classic arms smashing through the windows and the doors, trying to grab hold of them so they're sort of

Gav: They always attack them and stuff like that. It's like, Well what's the point? They're the behind the the things, don't worry about it. It's no point attacking the arms and trying to stop arms. I don't know why people always attack the arms. Leave let'em do it.

Dan: Yeah, you can really see where this and the Romero movies sort of cross over a little bit with the some of the ideas like the the arms coming through the walls.'Cause obviously like Sean of the Dead references that later on. Um

Gav: Uh the the one the they get the one zombie, the lady, half zombie, and they go and tie her up to the thing. This is disturbing.

Gav: Clever uh uh the law that Dana Brannan sets out with this, but it's so d disturbing as well.

Dan: So Scuzz gets caught sort of half pulled through the window by some of the zombies and they they pull him back in but he's holding on to this like half girl.

Gav: Yeah, so from the from the b uh uh b sh b fucking hips up.

Dan: Yeah. She hasn't she's she's got arms, but she's like a skeleton but with a little bit of meat on her. And they pull her back in and they they tie her up and basically Ernie says that I knew

Gav: Great.

Dan: I wanna know I wanna know what we're dealing with here.

Dan: So they start they tie her up and they start questioning.

Gav: Yeah. Amazing, like no autopsies could do one thing, but the fact that you can actually ask questions it's it's quite amazing if that was in real life. You could always ask what if you're studying questions first. That'd be great.

Dan: And he's sort of saying to her, So why are you in pain? And she's like, Because death hurts. Being dead hurts

Gav: It's so But it's so deep for something which feels like it shouldn't be.

Dan: And then she says, Brains and he's like, Why do you eat need brains? She's like, It's the only thing that can take away the pain. It eases the pain of us being dead. It's so

Gav: So good.

Dan: And she's like, well, you...

Dan: And he's just like and it's just lying there, this little puppet.

Gav: And she says I could feel myself rot.

Dan: That's my favorite line.

Gav: My God, that it's it's heartbreaking almost, you know?

Dan: And Spider's freaking out he's watching.

Dan: He just stood there like, whoa he's like, we've got to burn them, we've got to burn them all. How are we gonna burn that many people? You know, it's raining, how are we gonna do it? Yeah. And we see trash wake up.

Dan: And uh she's now a naked zombie and she

Gav: When from a distance you're like, uh when that homeless guy's like, Hey, that looks all right where he's got a shopping car, then it gets close, it's like, Oh no.

Dan: And she just attacks and kills him. He d he didn't get a chance. The police arrive.

Dan: And uh well we cut actually they don't arrive yet. We cut to the police station who were like, We're getting dozens of calls like of these attacks. So we've got to send every unit out to wherever it is. Okay, we're gonna send them all out.

Dan: Um they move Frank and Freddie to the chapel and they don't want to do this but but Bert basically says

Gav: Because they're like yeah, gonna probably turn.

Dan: He says I'm not we're not gonna do anything to them, Tina.

Gav: Yeah,'cause he was like, What are you doing? That's my boyfriend, you know.

Dan: It just says just in case.

Dan: They sort of turn. We gotta take them somewhere different. So they take'em to the chapel within the morgue, just in case they change. And Cena says, Well, I'm gonna stay with Freddy, th in that case the night it's up to you, it's your call. You stay with him then. That's fine.

Dan: The cops arrive and they see the paramedics' bodies and the brains everywhere.

Gav: Fast zombie attack.

Dan: Zombies completely annihilate them straight away.

Gav: When when when the second paramedics cut turn up, one of'em's just walking along and w a couple of zombies run at him like proper American football stole and take him out so hard. It's like Jesus Christ.

Dan: And the same zombie that called for the paramedics now gets on the cop card.

Gav: It's a different one.

Dan: Oh is it? Yeah okay. Well he says it should have been the same zombie, that would have been even funnier.

Gav: I think it's giv I think it's to give it a range that they're all that intelligent.

Dan: Fair enough, that's good, Jack. So Spider, Bert and Ernie are left at this mo point together and they're trying to plan their escape.

Dan: And within the chapel, Freddie and Frank are Absolute agony dying.

Dan: In her arms, in Tina's arms.

Dan: And then he instantly wakes up and says

Gav: Bye-bye.

Dan: And he attacks her and he's completely changed. She does in a moment, yeah. Well someone throws that on him.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: 'Cause they had it earlier, they were talking about how acid could dissolve.

Gav: Oh okay.

Gav: Okay.

Dan: So Tina fights back a little bit, um, and they all manage to come in and help her batter him.

Gav: Didn't have the accident in the chapel though, so I don't know, maybe I took it in.

Dan: Well this is where Oni throws acid on him and

Gav: Oh okay, oh okay, so any does it right.

Dan: And meanwhile, while they're fighting Freddy and all this is going on throwing acid on him and screaming and you've still got this like half corpse woman lying on a bed going.

Dan: Bye-bye.

Gav: So hectic. And at this point also, and he goes and breaks his foot.

Dan: He's broken his fucking foot.

Gav: Just just to throw that in there for another thing as well. Very hexic.

Dan: So then they say, Well what are we gonna do? We we take a car and spider says, Yeah, look, I I'll drive the police car. They always leave the kids.

Gav: He says, You know that favour, yeah? Look after yourself.

Dan: I know.

Gav: Well no, what watch your ass. That's it.

Dan: A good callback.

Dan: So they they go out to the cop car, as soon as they get in it, literally like fifty zombies jump on the car.

Dan: And they just don't know what to do, so they just drive as fast as they can with all these zombies on the car. And they make it back to where Chuck and Casey are.

Dan: And smash she smash into the wall a little bit. Yep. Uh Tina climbs onto the roof with her knee. And Frank, at this point, is that enough?

Dan: And this is the scene you mentioned early earlier on.

Dan: Takes his ring off. Yeah. Puts it on the side of the uh furnace. Yeah. He says, Oh God, forgive me.

Dan: Yeah. He gets in and he just pulls himself in and it's burning him as he's getting in because it's so hot. Yeah.

Gav: When you hold the touch it goes Ah It's nice little touches to it.

Gav: Such it's such a well uh crafted movie between the actors and the director and the fact the director wrote it as well is great. Uh we then get the ghetto bird outside, the police helicopter is there and it's actually s telling people stuff, isn't it? Yeah.

Dan: Stay inside, do not go out of the rain, um and any of you that are out there put down your weapons, stop attacking people.

Gav: And more cops turn up, get attacked, but the helicopter can see this, so they're actually obviously saying back to them, like there's a problem, which is great. We we don't see any of this.

Gav: wasted time on a screen. Like the police they it's just there, it's happening. It's it's very good.

Dan: So the rest of the gang that are still alive head down to the basement and this is where Tarman gets his

Gav: Yeah,'cause they say very quickly they say there's a blockade.

Gav: If you haven't been affected, get to the blockade, I think they'll sort of shout out or something.

Dan: So Tarman runs comes running in the room and I can't remember who knocks his head off now. Is it Ernie? Somebody s just knocks his head clean off. It might have been burped.

Dan: Uh head clean off and that's it. It's a real shame that Tarman goes out like that.

Gav: I know, I thought that was well unfair.

Dan: Um so they're in the basement. Burt calls the police.

Gav: And and the the blockade, all the zombies go to the blockade anyway, and they just start taking out all the everybody there, so it's spreading more and more.

Dan: Well it's the start of a pandemic, isn't it? It's the start of a zombie ep epidemic, really.

Dan: So the zombie horde kills a ton more armed cops this time. They're like take fire, shoot fire. Shoot them, shoot them.

Gav: Uh basically Bert's like, you know, w let's ring that number on the tank which we spoke about. So they go get the phone and they ring the military, which is the gentleman we saw earlier on who effel is his wife.

Dan: He wakes up in bed in the middle of the night.

Gav: Straight away like opens a pendant. Yes sir, yes sir. Okay. So on and then what happened? Okay, okay. And he's basically talking to Bert and he's asking questions. We don't see the other end. And I I

Gav: Don't know why it is with this. I r I've always liked this scene where y you can't hear and he's just there in the middle of the night on phone with his F all behind going, Huh But he's there saying, And what happened? Then what'd you do?

Gav: Why did you get hold of us before? Oh no, that's understandable. Okay, and then Okay. And it just goes like that and I don't know why I find it really relaxing and I don't know. I l always love that scene. Very weird.

Dan: And then and then he calls he calls another guy in the army, like a missile guy.

Dan: He he says the eggs have hatched. He's like we need our contingency plan.

Gav: Cut back to Bert says, Yeah, they've got some plans, they say, and then cut back to them again.

Dan: Yeah. And he's like so he's probably thinking, That's all right, they've got they've got a plan for this, don't worry. Yep. They they're gonna save us all. Then it cuts back to him going, Okay, sir, give me the code.

Gav: And it cuts back through.

Gav: You can see.

Dan: We saw that.

Gav: Sun's just coming up and it's this guy in a tower thing or something with trees behind him, obviously out in the middle, and he's like, Yes sir, okay sir uh colts please sir and it's all we know what's going on there. They're gonna set off a fucking nuke bomb.

Gav: y eso es exactamente lo que está pasando

Dan: And they press a button and this nuke nuclear missile goes flying along. And Bert says, hang on a minute, shh, can you hear something? And outside you can just hear.

Dan: No whistling noise.

Dan: And then we get this weird freeze frame s montage of like Freddie um jumping up through the ceiling to attack

Dan: Ernie uh and'cause Ernie's just about to put a bullet in Tina's head to s to save her from her boyfriend eating her brains. But instead he just gets too

Dan: Bursts up through the ceiling, then he freeze frames, then it cuts to a freeze frame of trash naked in the graveyard. Like zombie trash. And then a mushroom cloud.

Gav: We do then have um a bit of dialogue in the background saying it's basically a an update up sped version of this colonel talking to the other guy but with like

Gav: Updates of hours or later uh in increments it almost seems. Each sentence is like saying, Oh so, yeah, that's right, sir. We believe everybody's uh the the bomb head is all good. Could then the next sentence be

Gav: Uh some people are saying that the rain's been irritating them but I'm sure the rain will just put out the fires and it sort of basically explains to us what's happened is that they've just gone and caused exactly what the furnace caused, but with the nuke bombs basically it's a load more rain so basically it's spreading even further.

Gav: That's what they're saying. It's a great it's a great great movie.

Dan: Cause he says he says just under four thousand people died with that nuclear b missile. But don't worry, all the fires are getting put out by the rain and I think that's just gonna wash everything away. And we like you say, we know it's not. And it ends with

Dan: screaming rising corpses coming out the ground and that that chuckling little skeleton pops up with his big eyeballs. And then

Dan: For the first part of the credits we get like a sizzle reel of like the best scenes from the film again, don't we? A bit like uh cannibal run.

Gav: Yeah, it's the eighties way and it's uh such a fun, brilliant movie and our reviews

Dan: Mm-hmm.

Gav: rushed through not rushed through, gone through rapidly like the film does.

Gav: Um, excellent movie. Do give this a watch. Um it's currently on UK Amazon Prime. I don't know worldwide, unfortunately, but it's a fantastic movie. Um I picked up recently on DVD.

Gav: Um it's quite uh not the cheapest D V D to get hold of. I managed to get rid of some other DVDs. Um and the Blu-ray is quite expensive. I would like the Blu-ray but I'm probably not gonna fork that money out for it just yet. Um but yes I've got it on the small VHS analyse.

Dan: Uh and I've got it and you've got it on that. And I've got it on Prime. I bought it on Prime Oh cool. Um, a couple of years ago just'cause I I couldn't be bothered to get my VHS out of the attic.

Gav: As good that you got on VHS I Don't have it on VHS, I don't think.

Dan: I bought it from Virgin Megastore back in the day, a long time ago. Oh, I went through a phase

Gav: Brilliant, nice.

Gav: All the VHS tape my collection now are not originals which I bought when I was a kid. They're all like obviously since I've got'em back, I had them, but you know, they're not mine. So that's cool that you've got one you actually bought.

Dan: So overall I I'm giving I I give this a nine out of ten on IMDB.

Gav: Oh amazing, yeah.

Gav: Very very good.

Dan: I'd say it's in my top three zombie films of all time. Braindead is still my favourite. Yeah. But but this is definitely not in the top three. You know, i it's a quintessential It's not only a quintessential zombie movie, it's a quintessential eighties horror movie.

Gav: And the fact that Dan just did one movie is crazy.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: He wrote some great stuff but he directed this one and done and he's just dropped the mic and left.

Dan: Yeah. What a career. Um

Gav: It does say on I M D B that it directs another movie, I don't know.

Gav: Nike ninety one or something. I don't know why uh if it did or not.

Dan: If you haven't seen it for a while, go back and revisit it. You will not be disappointed. Yeah. And it's a great it's a great movie for us to That's a podcasting with The Return of Us, the Living Dead as well.

Gav: Indeed. Um, I think we should go for a break because it's fucking boiling hot and I need a break.

Dan: Well, good job you said that because the time machine is waiting outside for us.

Gav: Toy machine the air conditioning was working the last time I checked, I've topped

Dan: It's working fine. It's working absolutely fine.

Gav: It's still a bit smelly in here though, but that's fine.

Dan: It always is. Alright, well do you wanna get into this time machine? Alright, sit down. Let me strap you in.

Dan: Okay I'm sorry. All right. You in, you ready?

Gav: I mean, I'm not sure.

Gav: Can I do it? Oh thanks.

Gav: Whoa! What's this machine?

Dan: This is my time machine class.

Gav: Time machine?

Dan: Yeah, for the next five minutes.

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Gav: Well that wasn't too bad. It's been a while but it was it was all right.

Dan: Well, we've only gone back a year, so it's not too bad, you see.

Gav: Yeah, yeah. I've been here for a while actually. Since last year.

Dan: Yeah. Well there we go. Twenty twenty five. Take a look around you.

Gav: Oh yeah. I I remember it's not that far away. I remember it all. A lot of things do happen quickly though, I've got to say nowadays.

Dan: So, as always with Time Team for those who who've never come on this journey with us, what we generally do, we normally do this on our January episode, but obviously this is our first episode of the year. And it's just a recap of the year before.

Dan: So what I usually do is start off with just a few headlines of what happened during the year, just general.

Dan: And then we'll talk more about the the films that were out that year and the sort of box office. And then we get into the horror. The horror of twenty twenty five and what movies were out. So let's start with the headlines.

Dan: Well, unfortunately, Donald Trump became president for the second time

Gav: that I've been in.

Dan: I know it's been it's been uh just over a year since January twenty twenty five.

Dan: Um yeah, so he's got just two and a half more years of this shit.

Gav: Unless it's still in. But he ruins it. He's literally ruined it for everybody. It's costing everybody more money. It's he literally ruined it for everybody just because he's a bloody pedo. Uh uh uh uh possibly. I don't know that's for sure. Don't sue us.

Dan: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna get into

Dan: All the stuff that's come off the back of him becoming president. It's too much. And I'm also gonna avoid all the Epstein stuff that was coming out last year as well. Um

Gav: It's still coming out. It's still a a thing. So yeah, we're not we're not we're not that we're not that podcast.

Dan: No. Um there are a few fun things and interesting things though, like uh for example twenty twenty five was the the year that AI really stepped its game up.

Dan: Um especially with what you can do with film footage and music. Songs coming out by artists that are long dead and uh splicing movies together and putting characters in movies that just Wouldn't they ever there it seemed?

Gav: I'll tell you now though, the community's uh everybody hates AI.

Gav: Uh, with a passion. If you if you put up a if you're in a group and you put a piece of art up, if you're a creator and you use AI to do the art for you, everyone will fucking cut you down.

Gav: Uh, we discovered that the hard way'cause Tom accidentally put out a uh we

Gav: were doing something. I can't even remember what it was. And it Bennett done an AI artwork because it was his concept. It wasn't to go out

Dan: Wasn't it Sanctuary Moon?

Gav: No no no, it's more recent. It's it was this year. Um and Tom um went oh it might have been baited. It might even be baited might early on. And Tom went it was, I think it was, and Tom went and ran with it and Ben was like that wa and then

Gav: as soon as you put it up, everyone's like, I'm not gonna have support this if it's AI slot and everyone just fucking taking us down and I and Tom took it down straight away and uh put up a thing saying that wasn't actually s intended for

Gav: You know, we we learnt a lesson. Don't use AI artwork if you're a creative person. We we don't anyway. Ben's the artist, he does the art, he was doing it as a concept to a proof. It wasn't to go out to the public.

Gav: Uh but yeah, people are really uh AI has got really more advanced but people are uh not liking it as people

Dan: People um wanted to boycott late night with the devil just because all the intermission screens that they use are all AI generated.

Gav: That was silly'cause that was to use that just to help out. Um it's it is a f it is a thing though for sure. Um yeah, it's like we need to as creatives you need to keep an eye on. You you can use it as a tool for sure to help out certain things.

Gav: Um, we have used it recently in a short f film which we've just been finishing. Um, we use it a little bit to help us out'cause we just couldn't get the short.

Gav: Um I almost got a chainsaw through me.

Gav: Mm-hmm.

Gav: Trying to get the shot.

Dan: I mean Alice has been using my wife has been using AI with having lost my dad, we've we're going through all of his photos and some of them have deteriorated badly.

Gav: That's uh that's that's fine. I think it's from a creative stance.

Dan: There's a couple of photos of like my mum that was completely faded that Alice used AI to bring back to normal and there was one that's got like a big ri like almost like a big wrinkle all the way, like a rip all the way through it, and she got AI to remove that.

Dan: And it looks amazing and it's like great to bring these photos back to life. So stuff like that I think it's great, but yeah, it definitely needs to be policed.

Gav: Daisy, my daughter, hates it and how much water it uses.

Dan: Well talking of science in 2025 scientists invented and unveiled a new pacemaker which is the size of a grain of rice.

Gav: Amazing.

Dan: It's only for temporary use until you can have a proper pacemaker fit, but you basically have it injected.

Gav: you put it in and not lose it.

Dan: Well you inject it under the skin with a little s a normal syringe.

Gav: Oh, and then it has a time uh time lapse.

Dan: Yeah.

Gav: What?

Dan: But it's a temporary solution and it's the size of a grain of rice, which is insane.

Dan: You know, so imagine what will happen further down the line that's crazy.

Gav: Oh, when we're when you know, when we're struggling, we might be able to find things to help us quite easy.

Gav: Yeah, let's go.

Gav: Quang from a turtle ninja ninja turtles.

Dan: Correct.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Um, well, talking of science and medical stuff, um, twenty twenty five was the year a Zempit.

Dan: And other weight loss injections and drugs really came out uh all over the press and the media. People are split down the middle because it it does help people lose weight rapidly. Yeah, but we don't

Gav: Then look at like uh yes, admittedly her father died, but I was gonna say Kelly Osborne looks awful.

Dan: Um and also we don't know what the side effects because it's only been out for a couple of years.

Dan: But people are qu happily taking it. I know quite a few people that are taking it and um

Gav: You know people taking it.

Dan: Yeah, I totally know people that are taking it. Really? Loads of people. Probably a dozen people.

Gav: And and what have they got from

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Dan: Um, but it's just the long term it can't be sustained long term, that's the thing. Like you can't take that for the rest of your life.

Gav: Yeah,'cause y yeah,'cause uh surely your body's not gonna That's not how the body's supposed to work, so like that's gonna do definitely do something, it's fuck your body up surely.

Dan: Well we've all seen the substance, so

Gav: It's I don't know, it's one of those things. It's like if it is absolutely fine for you and then it helps you to do that'cause uh of people look at go, it's cheating, you should be exercising and working it off. Um

Gav: But I guess if it works, but surely that's I dunno, the body must not like that long term I feel. I dunno. We will see.

Dan: Twenty twenty five was also the year a crazy um and tragic thing happened in India. Air India Flight one seven one crashed thirty seconds after takeoff, killing everybody on board. Two hundred and thirty passengers, twelve members of the crew.

Dan: And there was one person who survived the

Gav: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gav: But who've probably in sh therapy now?

Dan: Yep, absolutely, man. He he must just be like It also hit a medical college and killed another nineteen people in there and injured another sixty people.

Gav: Yeah he survived. There's a there's a move there's a movie on tonight if you want to watch, if it helps you get things off. It's called Unbreakable.

Dan: What's it about? Bruce Willis survives a train crash.

Gav: Probably not the movie for you. Um

Dan: Wow.

Gav: That's sorry for uh uh all the people who passed. Uh that's insane. And uh imagine just being the one person survived. Did di did he did he survive yeah, like you say, did he survive if Absolutely fine.

Dan: He had injuries but he wasn't dead like everybody else. That's like almost three hundred people died in total.

Dan: I ain't saying it wasn't fine.

Gav: So what he was doing, where he was sitting, what was the the reason?

Dan: He was doing whatever he else was doing, just like head between the leg well, he wasn't even doing that because they didn't have time. It was just the luck. Imagine. Absolute luck.

Gav: And all of them died. That that

Dan: It's barely taken off, it's thirty seconds, so it's just like vrang.

Dan: It's not like you've been travelling for hours and you're like oh my god, Mayday, we're going down, we're going down. It's just like thirty seconds of flight straight into a building.

Gav: Anything.

Dan: He survived. Crazy. Yeah. In other news.

Dan: A new Guinness World Record was set in Mexico The largest margarita ever was made.

Dan: A gi a giant vat and it was seven thousand five hundred and seventy nine point seven imperial gallons of margarita.

Gav: How big diameter? That's what we wanna know. What was it?

Dan: It's about it looks from the picture, it's about almost the size of a house. A two story house.

Gav: What did they do with that?

Dan: Uh let's see if it says what they did with it.

Dan: Well it's in it was in Tijuana, Mexico. No, but you don't eat m margarita, not pizza. Margarita the drink.

Gav: Oh god for God's sake.

Gav: I was having a moment there, wasn't I? That's why I said the size of it because that's why I was wondering why it's made there. I was like, that's not very hygienic. How's that what? How's that work? So yes, sorry you put you through me. Not margarita pizza, margarita.

Dan: Margaret of the cocktail, yeah.

Dan: I'm so sorry. But um yeah, I should imagine the people of Tijuana got drunk on it.

Gav: Yeah, I imagine that's the case with that yeah.

Dan: probably a little tap on the bottom and you could just walk by and have a little bit there in there. Um Charlie Kirk was assassinated?

Gav: Mm-hmm.

Dan: Uh w we won we won't talk much about him'cause his opinions are quite polarizing, um, and things he said and didn't say. But off the back of that, Jimmy Kimmel was fired for about a week because he made a joke about Trump and Jimmy Kimmel and

Dan: Hun uh, Trump demanded him being taken off the air and then he came back on the air and people in Hollywood were standing up for him and it was all very

Gav: It's a we're living in a fucking fantasy TV drama at the moment, aren't we? Really? The whole thing's just bonkers.

Dan: Yeah, it's pretty weird. Um There was also an incident of a real life um Oceans Eleven.

Gav: Can't stop looking at those.

Dan: Yeah, it's not

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: It's not great.

Gav: Stop looking at Trump. Stop looking at Trump. It's always shit.

Dan: It's about ten wars going on. Trump's remote around.

Gav: Doesn't do anything to help any me at all.

Dan: Well, in France in the Louvre Museum, um there was a real there was a real life Oceans Eleven scenario where several thieves

Dan: Uh well two thieves disguised themselves as construction workers. Um they used a furniture lift to access the upper floor window, cut through it, smash their way into the display cases. Um

Dan: And then took loads of things back to another two people. So there's four of them. They escaped on mopeds like the Italian job style.

Dan: Uh, and six days later they all were arrested. But they managed to steal over a hundred million dollars worth of jewels from the Napoleonic era.

Gav: Wow.

Dan: That's pretty bold these days with all the C C T V and everything else we've got kicking around, you know what I me

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Um a really interesting fact, the last penny Ever made in the US mint was produced in November of twenty twenty five.

Dan: They're not ever gonna make another penny, another cent coin. Because the cost of making a one cent coin now costs three point seven cents. So it costs three times as much to make a one cent coin as it does

Gav: And and also pff w wh why what's costing so little that you only use a few cents, it's just no point in it, do you know what I mean? It's like especially in like the digital wage as well.

Dan: Yeah, and I should imagine we'll see that in the UK at some point, the one pence piece will probably You know,'cause n I haven't seen a one or a two pence piece for years, you know.

Gav: But if I blow my wallet, I'll go out the line in there now.

Dan: Yeah, it's just I just don't even pay for things in cash that much anymore, you know.

Gav: I st I uh recently I've been getting paid in cash from people. They like join cash like yeah. Um I I I mean I haven't been getting paid in cash, that's all there was.

Dan: So documentation.

Gav: A joke.

Dan: Um my last uh headline from twenty twenty five before we move over to movies.

Dan: is one I really agree with and that's that Australia became the first country in the world to ban under sixteens from using social media.

Dan: including Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat and Reddit. Under sixteens are not allowed to use it and if they find a way around it,

Dan: then the company itself faces a huge fine from the Australian government and other comp other countries are looking to implement this over the next couple of years. Which is great, I think. Because I think it's very damaging to juveniles and adolescents to be able to access

Dan: some of the stuff they can, like porn and violence and just be able to tweet and message people and and look at things and say things and i it teaches kids that

Dan: There aren't consequences. Yeah. You can tweet what you like about somebody and nothing will happen. And unfortunately that is the case with social media.

Dan: Um so yeah, really good move from Australia there and let's hope that uh a lot of other countries follow suit with that. Do you agree with that?

Dan: Quickly before we move on to movies, there were four significant deaths in twenty twenty five.

Dan: I'll try and do impressions of them all.

Gav: And days.

Dan: Ozzy Osborne. The legend.

Gav: Aussie, yeah. Yeah, I watched that gig, I watched that gig.

Dan: Yeah, I wish.

Gav: And Sarah's I I wouldn't be surprised if he dies next week.

Gav: Jesus.

Dan: Everybody, you can blame Sarah for Ozzy Osbourne's death. That's official. It's on the podcast.

Gav: Absolutely. Blame her.

Dan: Um I won't be able to do an impression of this guy, but I'll just tell you Hulk Hogan, the legend himself, another big Oh yeah, that's Nigel Man's 90s sandwich.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Oh, yeah.

Dan: I'll give you a clue to this next one. He's a boxer, but also he helps you cook meat.

Dan: George Foreman.

Gav: Oh.

Dan: The George Foreman Grail. What a random product for a boxer to endorse.

Gav: George Fallman Groom. Mo uh so many people would know George Forngroom, not even though he's a boxer.

Dan: And the last one to mention and I will do an impression of him, he's more known for his art and his directing, but

Gav: No Buchanan.

Dan: Hello, can you hear what I'm saying?

Gav: Dangerous.

Dan: Listen to me.

Gav: Yes. Time to change. Time to change.

Dan: My twin pigs.

Gav: Yeah, oh David Lynch.

Dan: David Lynch, what an absolute fucking

Gav: A real proper a real proper creative artist, uh um yeah. He's one of our yeah he's one of us.

Dan: That that affected me so much that I bought a t shirt that says David Lynch directed by David Lynch on it, just because I thought that was such a cool t shirt to have as a tribute to him.

Dan: So yeah, that's the significant deaths of celebrities in twenty twenty five. Let's move on then to what was happening in the movie world. Um so we'll start with

Dan: I guess it's easier really just to go to what was the sort of biggest movies of last year. You're not going to have seen a lot of these. Some of them you'll surprise me with. Um Zootopia two was the biggest box office movie.

Dan: Of twenty twenty five.

Gav: Okay.

Dan: Okay, I have not. Yep. Unsurprisingly, James Cameron's Avatar Three, Fire and Ash, was the second highest grossing movie.

Gav: I've n still never seen any of those films.

Dan: I've seen the first one.

Dan: That's it. But I I will watch them all, I just don't have time. Uh Lilo and Stitch, the live action one. My kids love that. And that made a ton of money for Disney.

Gav: Not saying that.

Dan: Minecraft movie was the one of the highest gross movies.

Gav: We're fans.

Dan: It made just under a billion dollars.

Gav: That's a good movie.

Dan: Um Jurassic Park, sorry, Jurassic World Rebirth.

Gav: Yeah, I saw it. It was okay ish. But I it's forgetful. I don't remember what happened. Scarlet your handson.

Dan: How to Train Your Dragon, the live action one I haven't seen yet.

Gav: Uh apparently um uh it is very good. My eldest said it was.

Dan: Uh Superman, it was alright, I saw that at the cinema. It wasn't bad. Um Mission Impossible, the final reckoning.

Dan: I haven't seen that. Is it good?

Gav: Yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's what you expect. Uh it does go on for a long time though.

Dan: One day I'm gonna sit down and watch those'cause I haven't seen that or the one before it, so I'm gonna watch those all from the beginning.

Gav: They're fun. They're fun films.

Dan: They they are fun films, I do like them. What is Tom Grues gonna do now though, now that those films are done?

Gav: Yeah, right. They are in my Blu-ray collection'cause I do look uh yeah, I do like them.

Dan: Other movies.

Gav: I love the fact that the first one was directed by Brian De Palmer. It's so bizarre.

Dan: And why did John Woo direct one of them at the same time?

Gav: I know.

Dan: Um Wicked Two, Wicked for Good, uh The Fantastic Four, uh The Conjuring, Last Right, Captain America, Brave New World, Thunderbolt, so you know, Disney, Marvel were back. Sinners was one of the highest grazing movies in the top twenty.

Dan: Final Destination, Bloodlines, so got a few horror movies in there. And Weapons was the twenty second highest grossing movie of the year. Um

Dan: So yeah, there's the mainstream. Let's move over to what was going on in the horror world. So weapons obviously we've discussed in great detail. Sinners we've discussed in great detail as well. The monkey also came out this year.

Dan: I watched it twice last year, really enjoyed the monkey. You seen that one, haven't you?

Dan: Yeah. Um Good Boy, a lot of people are talking about this movie. Have you seen that one? About the dog? No.

Gav: I've listened to director being interviewed talking about it. He made over three years at his house with his dog and his wife.

Dan: Ah. Okay. Uh, Together came out in twenty twenty five, which I've discussed and highly recommend you watch, but then you don't like body horror, so

Dan: You've got to see it. You've got to watch it.

Gav: That keen on that dude either.

Dan: Dave Franco. Mm. But he's not his brother. His brother's the one who Mm meshes doesn't underrange girls.

Gav: Done that one either.

Dan: Okay. I like Dave Franco, he's alright. He was in neighbours, bad neighbours.

Gav: Actually I don't know if I want him as a lead I don't want him in an ensemble Yeah.

Dan: Uh I haven't seen this yet, but twenty-eight years later it came out in twenty twenty-five, and we've already had the sequel and the third one coming out soon. Yeah, I've not seen it. Which is crazy.

Dan: Have you not seen 28 years? Wow, I thought you saw that. I haven't seen that. I will watch it, just haven't got around to it yet.

Gav: No, I was in days and weeks.

Dan: Uh bring her back?

Gav: From where

Dan: Just bring it back.

Gav: Yeah, I've seen it.

Dan: I've heard it's very good. I haven't seen it. A lot of these unfortunately I haven't seen.

Dan: VHS Halloween, another VHS movie.

Dan: I haven't seen many those. I've only seen the first two, I think.

Gav: Yeah, uh yeah, it's bits and bobs. It's one of those things, isn't it, really?

Dan: Yeah, at least one of them will be good when you watch those those movies. Uh the long walk I've heard is really boring.

Gav: Um I I I I f had a feeling that it'd probably be when it came out. It was a movie about people walking. I was like, That sounds sound very interesting. I've not seen it. Sarah said it wasn't very good.

Gav: Um it's on prime. I I might watch it a background sort of thing, um, while I'm doing stuff.

Dan: Okay. Dangerous animals.

Dan: Which is about a serial killer who feeds um people to a shark.

Gav: Uh

Dan: It's really good.

Gav: Yeah, yeah.

Dan: Um I have seen the next one.

Dan: And I was a huge fan of it and I've gone on record as saying it's my favourite adaptation of the novel and that's Giamaro del Toro's Frankenstein.

Gav: Yeah, I'm not sure.

Dan: Really good. I think it's on Netflix, I'm not sure. Really, really, really, really good. Mia Goths in it, so you might not like it, but Oscarise it.

Gav: I'm not gonna watch that, I think.

Dan: Oh wow, it's it's really great, really good. Toxic Avenger, I know Sarah's seen this. Have you seen this?

Dan: Yeah. Ugh. When it first came out everybody was saying it's awful, but I'm seeing a lot of people online say it's actually really good fun.

Dan: Um j I don't know what to think about it really. I probably will get around to it. But you can't I don't know how you recreate those sort of weird trauma movies from the eighties though, you know? How do you do that?

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Heart Eyes, I've discussed that. I recommend it. The monkey I've discussed as well. Clown in a cornfield came out in twenty twenty-five.

Gav: Uh unfortunately Ta Tuckendale director and Tucondale's great. Uh this

Gav: In my opinion, wasn't very good. Uh yeah, this is Sarah and uh we actually we we never got to the end, turned it off.

Dan: Great title.

Gav: Yeah, um I m yeah, it did nothing new at all. I don't know, I'd not no interest in it, which is such a shame'cause I was oh it should be quite good. It's no interest.

Dan: Black Phone two, you know you've already told us. You've already told us what you thought of Black Phone Two. Yeah.

Dan: Uh obsession came out at the end well technically twenty twenty five but it's really only just come out this year. Uh obsession. Um

Dan: I think that was it for the the main horror movies that came out in twenty twenty five. So I'm gonna say you gotta watch Frankenstein Weapons.

Dan: And probably together the at the ones I've seen.

Dan: Um any others that you'd recommend out of those?

Gav: Oh, I can't remember everything he said. Watch weapons.

Dan: Weapons. There you go. Best it was definitely the best horror film of twenty twenty five. Yeah. Weapons.

Dan: So that was twenty twenty five, the year that Donald Trump came back, AI started taking over, Skynet woke up.

Dan: Hulk Hogan and Ozzy Osborne said goodbye with David Lynch and

Dan: Weapons came out. Good times.

Dan: Well, let's get back on the time machine and head back to 2026.

Dan: To wrap up the episode.

Gav: Uh uh we're rap and we're gonna wrap it as well. Alright, let's go.

Gav: And we're back again.

Dan: Well, it's been good to get back in the saddle after all this time.

Gav: Great movement.

Dan: Oh. Nothing else underneath. Like Christine Agran there right.

Dan: Well, they can, but you can. They can't.

Gav: How did you pop that out there? What is that then? That's my name.

Dan: One of my hemorrhoids.

Gav: Carry on. Just keep talking.

Dan: Uh so thank you everybody for um supporting us and waiting patiently for us to come back. We really appreciate it.

Gav: Thank you.

Dan: Um patrons, supporters, listeners, um

Gav: Mm-hmm.

Dan: Kevin at Legion and everybody at Legion, thank you. Um we are the podcast on Haunted Hill, and as always, we are a proud member of Legion Podcasts Network and have been for about twelve years or so now it's ridiculous. Um you can find out more about Legion Podcasts Network.

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Dan: Completed short films.

Dan: Yeah.

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Gav: It's about a hundred and eight, but then you've got like fifteen or sixteen uh uh many episodes extra episodes. And then there's a couple of exodes on Patreon if you head on over to Patreon.com/LegionPodcasts

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Gav: A man uh feature film.

Dan: Um and our handle for uh Deadboard is on Instagram is Deadport Films, all one word. Finally, uh we are on Patreon. So if you would like to become a Patreon supporter and support the show in a monetary fashion

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Dan: And I will send that out to you. There's three colours, grey, white or blue. And you can choose your colour and size and we'll get that sent out to you. Um not only that, but you also get your name read out and thanked at the end of each episode, which I'll do in a moment, and you get exclusive access to some

Dan: patron only episodes basically video for episodes and audio episodes where we review random things or have random chats about stuff um and you get to pick a patron pick

Dan: And we're not sure how that's going to work. It used to be that the patrons would pick two movies.

Dan: sticking with the format of us reviewing two films every episode. But it might be that they review one now. I'll have to get back in contact with all the patrons and find out what they want to do. Um we may we may do one one of Gav's films and the next episode one of Dan's films and then

Dan: The patron episode may still be two films. It may only be one film. We'll see. We'll see what how we do. But we are messing around with the format of the show, just to freshen things up and make things easier for us.

Dan: um to record as well. But yes, if you want to do that, then all you need to do is head over to Patreon and search for the podcast on Onton Hill. If you can't find that, just message us on that email address I mentioned or you can

Dan: send me a message directly on Facebook Messenger and I'll reply to you. Um we really appreciate all of our patrons um and all of their support and I personally

Dan: Would like to thank you all for reaching out to me during the last five months. Um although I might not have replied straight away, if at all, I think I replied to almost all of you. Um your messages were really

Dan: Appreciate it and I thank you very much. So thank you to our patrons by name. So start with them all. Dante!

Dan: Don Collier. Matthew Godley. Kevin S. Fife. Rachel. RJ McCready. And Lex Boo. Boo. Boo. There's only one boo. I'd just like to put the echo on that. Thank you very much, Patriot.

Gav: Thank you so much.

Dan: support. Thank you to everybody who listens and supports and follows on the Facebook page. Thank you to Gav for bringing me back into the fold.

Dan: And thank you very much to Dan O'Bannon for some fucking great writing and one amazing film that he directed. Just one.

Gav: It's a very good film. Yeah. Uh we well, we've done a director special then.

Dan: I guess we have, because they did one movie. So yeah. That was pretty

Gav: Well, LMDB does say another movie, so I'll have to check that out and see what that is.

Dan: Yeah. Wow, I don't believe it.

Dan: Well that's it for us. Um with the next episode. Uh we haven't got the next three lined up like I normally would tell you what the next three episodes are gonna be,'cause we're getting back into the swing of this, but we do know that it's Gav's pick.

Dan: And Gav, you have selected

Gav: It's not the summer, but it's kind of warm and we're just going through the list of films and I thought, oh no, no, I I enjoyed that. Um so it'd be worth a talk about. Um it's nothing deep. I just quite enjoy quite enjoyed it as a film. Uh s the summer of eighty

Gav: Four. Four. Wanna say eighty two every time. Summer of eighty four, um which was uh uh a shudder movie or it was on shudder, um yeah, two thousand eighteen about a kind of

Gav: It's kind of a Stranger Things Goonies type scenario kids well not Goonies at all I suppose really. Um just the sort of young kids in the eighties and uh a v it's very much a Fright Night um

Gav: You know, disturb you. It's basically the the person next door or monster house and where they think the same going on and they monitor someone, etc. etc. It's good. I like it.

Dan: It is a throwback to the Goonies on Friday as well that Gremlin's got.

Gav: All that stuff in it. And it's done really well, it's cast really well. I I really enjoyed that at the

Dan: And it's not obnoxiously trying to be the age.

Dan: It wasn't very authentic.

Gav: Yeah, yeah.

Dan: 'Cause I feel like Stranger Things towards the end was trying too hard to be in the eighties. Yeah, maybe. It started off well, but I feel I feel like Summer of Eighty Four did a great job. Yeah, a group of um teenagers

Dan: suspect that a cop in their neighbourhood is a serial killer. So they spend their summer spying on him, gathering evidence, and it's good fun.

Dan: I remember really enjoying that. So that's what we're covering our next episode Summer of Eighty Four. Yes, I'll probably be with you in about three years' time.

Gav: Um uh well thank you for coming along with us. Thank you for uh uh the you know, waiting for us uh thank you for waiting for us to come back and uh we are back with a vengeance.

Dan: We're back with the Living Dead and some brains.

Gav: We're whack. Here we are.

Dan: We're back, we're back, and we aren't black.

Gav: We ain't taking no slack.

Dan: That's kind of the opposite to what um

Dan: They say I need the weapon. So, uh, it's a good night from Tarman. Brrr.

Gav: It's it's all good. Yeah. It's good night from naked dancing.

Dan: Trash.

Gav: Look out for her under your neath your bed tonight when you lock the doors and windows.

Dan: You don't want to be in my heart or do you?

Gav: I don't know. Where'd your bangers wrong be though?

Dan: A it's a good night from Bert and Ernie, but I'm talking Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street. I'd love it if someone could do an AI where they replace Bert and Ernie with Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street.

Gav: You're literally my brain.

Dan: Is that what you think?

Gav: Yeah, I was about to say those words.

Gav: Yeah.

Dan: Not the same.

Gav: I I almost feel like in my head that's already been done. So if we go look for it now it we've probably created it somehow.

Dan: You can imagine that can't you? Yeah. Oh okay, Berk.

Gav: That'll be wild, guys.

Dan: It'd be brilliant. Uh and it's a good night from who else can we say goodnight from one last one? A good night from um I don't know.

Dan: I split a dog. There you go. It's a good night from a split dog.

Gav: Thanks so much for coming along, people. Um we will be back again soon and uh be cheery in the world. Um we we bring brightness where there's there's the darkness, don't we?

Dan: Fuck you know. Yeah we do. You sound out like Batman then. I bring darkness when there's brightness.

Gav: Bring brightness where there's darkness.

Dan: Gabby's not the hero that our city needs, but he's the hero that it needs right whatever the fucking thing is. Good night.

Gav: I g uh fuck's sake. Good night, people.

Dan: Good night, good night.

Gav: Thank you for listening to the podcast on Haunted Hill. We will be back again real soon.