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Talk. I'm not your wife!

Your life.

I swear to God I never saw you before six weeks ago. Her marriage is just a memory implant.

You think I'm stupid?

Remember our wedding?

Was implanted by the agency.

And planet.

Our friends, my job, eight years together. Suppose all of this was implanted too? The job.

The job's real. The agency set it up.

They erased your identity and implanted a new one. I was written in as your wife so that I could watch you and make sure the erasure took.

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Sorry, Quaid.

Your whole life is just a dream.

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Okay then.

If I'm not me.

Who the hell am I?

I just work here.

Yeah.

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Tag. Doug, there's something I want you to know.

You were the best assignment I ever had.

Really.

I'm on it.

For all time's sake.

Well, if you don't trust me, you can tie me up.

Mm-hmm.

I didn't know I sucked in K.

Maybe it's time you found out.

Praise the Lord. for bringing us this truth.

Just as generous.

Just give me all the bacon and eggs you have.

Wait. Wait. I worry what you just heard was Give me a lot of bacon and eggs.

What I said was Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.

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Thank you.

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Why is it?

Find it into it.

Thank you.

Yeah, we'll see you forward.

Buy that for

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Bye-bye.

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that I'm saying.

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Hello everybody, welcome to the latest episode of Cinema Beef. If you are wondering why this intro sounds a little different, it's because our head butcher in charge

is out the working world has taken him away from us. He is preparing future endeavors for all the Cinnamon B fans so I and Suzanne have decided to step up and kind of split hosting duties on this episode.

Yeah.

Otherwise it's gonna be a pretty normal sounding episode. So I will start off by introducing My lovely colo Suzanne, how's it going, Suzanne?

Oh, doing well here. Just been a really, really busy Couple of weeks.

Thanks.

And Been looking forward to these movies for a long time.

Yeah, it's gonna be a fun doubleheader we got coming up for sure.

So next up we got someone who's a guest to this show, but I don't consider him a guest because he's a co-host on almost everything.

I do myself, so that would be Mr. Venom. Welcome back to Cinema Beef, Mr. Venom.

Greetings and salutations, beefers. Viva España y viva la Copa.

Yeah.

Ha ha. I'm still riding my high, so I'll be riding this for a few months.

Months.

How the hell are you doing, Mike?

I'm I'm doing well. Doing well.

All right. And Last up we have someone That I think most of us have known for a long time I haven't Podcasted with him in a while.

But I'm glad to see he's still around. When when Gary mentioned the name.

I was like, man, that's a blast from the past because I think

He is removed from the meta platform. So I just haven't seen him around in a while. But good to see the name pop up and talk movies with him again. So Cort Psyops, welcome to the show.

Hey, I am so happy to be back on the beef, and I am also very happy to be unfuckerberged in my life so much. Best decision I ever made.

Yeah, for sure. I I thought I remembered you making that announcement like

what has it been years now? And then I was like, I think that's

Why I haven't seen'em for a while. Uh

Uh no it was so we just wrapped up our year ten and we're technically on our year eleven, although we don't do

constant weekly releases anymore. Like we did

520 straight episodes nonstop. Well, there was nothing straight about them episodes, but they were consecutive. Uh and uh after that was over, then our eleventh year, we kind of took a break for a little while and

Did a few things and on upon returning just just a few months ago, so within this last year or so

I decided to move off of Facebook, but I've been trying to like notify people, like, hey, I'm leaving. If you want to get a hold of me, this is how you do it.

And I left that active but never got back on there. And then when I did get a few messages trickle in, I was like, Hey, I'm leaving, just so you know, I won't be interacting anymore. And I've finally gotten like I think about six months later, I think I've made the contacts or kept the contacts.

Thanks.

Uh for the people that reached out to me and said they wanted to stay in touch.

And that's why I finally deleted it. So I've been talking about it for like a while and I've been wanting to do it for a while and it has not been fun for years.

Years.

Well

Yeah.

I'm glad we get a chance to catch up today on Cinema Beef. It's usually a f a fun show.

And tonight we have a fun doubleheader. So it's it's I think it's gonna be a good time. But first we're gonna start off with what we usually do, catch up

Everyone with what we've been watching. So I'll kick it to Suzanne first. What do you got for us, Suzanne?

Well I had planned on watching something else the other night.

Figured, you know, I'll watch this one movie for a couple of minutes and then I'll just pause it and move on.

So what I planned on watching. But no. Fallen.

Genzel Washington This is slowly turning into

slowly my ass. Now this has become one of my favorite movies.

Of all time.

I absolutely love it. It is such a great take on possession and heaven and hell.

Um caught that and decided You know, I got little time to kill, so I kicked back with one of my another one of my absolute favorite movies of all time, The Wonderful.

Return of the aliens deadly spawn. I know it's the deadly spawn.

But when I first saw it in the first box I got one of those giant clamshells.

It was...

Return of the alien's deadly spawn.

And we're not talking just A little bit of blood.

Now we are talking fifty five gallon drug.

drums full of blood with people swimming in it.

One of the best monsters.

Monsters.

that I am going back into the fall of the house of Usher.

I don't know why I stopped watching it when it came out because I love Edgar Allan Poe.

I think I watched it was started watching it with my husband and then he got like distracted by some marvel thing.

So we just kinda stopped and I decided it was time to go back.

Plus, you know, basic summertime activities, Cubs games.

And uh Pretty much getting beaten up.

Buy all of the gigs my husband's band has been playing and so I get to play If you look at him cross eyed, I'll beat your ass.

So that's pretty much what I've been watching and what I've been up to.

All right. Sounds good. Sounds like a fun time. And let's uh keep it going with Mr Venom, catch us up on what you've been watching.

Yeah.

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All right. What have I been watching? Unfortunately, I've been so busy with work that I haven't been watching a lot outside of the stuff that I watch for podcasts. So

That's probably what I'm gonna go over. A few things that we've talked about on fresh cuts.

And one that We didn't get to talk about on fresh cuts.

That is actually my number one movie of the year, but We'll get to that in a second.

First I wanted to talk about Saturnalia.

Uh this one is uh takes place at a boarding school. So, you know, it's a setup that we've seen before. New kid gets to a boarding school, she's treated like crap.

She finds out there's something nefarious going on at the school and hilarity ensues from there.

This one uh it left me a little disappointed at the ending. It's it's not a bad film by any stretch. Uh in fact, I would recommend it to most supernatural horror fans.

But it it definitely is one of those third acts that kind of just left me wanting more.

Decent performances, good score, directed and written by Daniel John Lurch. So, you know, a solid film.

That could have used a little bit more in the horror aspect, uh, but otherwise not a bad little film.

Uh let's see. We also oh and then one that I watched on Netflix recently that we did not get to talk about on uh fresh cuts is Mudborne. This one.

I believe it was from Korea, right, Mike? I I'm pretty sure you saw Mudborne, didn't you?

Uh I didn't see it'cause it's on Netflix, isn't it? Oh.

Yeah, it's on Netflix. I mean it it was a fresh cuts option for one week.

But then we ended up going with something else. I I think it was the the runtime kind of scared us a little bit.

Yeah, I think it was a case where like I added it to my wish list and then It was like amongst like so many other VOD options and then we didn't pick it and then we ended up going to the theater for

stuff like so many weeks in a row that it kinda got lost in the shuffle. But maybe based on what you say about it, I'll bump it up or bump it down.

Спасибо.

Um, I'm not gonna call this a must-watch. It starts out really well, like the first two acts are really well.

uh you know come off really well excuse me uh you've got a video game designer who's been forced to continue a project for another designer who's gone missing.

This video game is basically a murder mystery, but what they're doing is they're using a real life murder mystery that happened in Korea.

And they're actually like scanning the location, the place where the murder suicide occurred.

Heard

I and and this was an entire family that was killed. So I mean you're talking like three or four victims. And of course, again, as the AI team or or the um the environment team, excuse me, is scanning

this area, of course they run into things that they didn't expect to find. It's it's almost like a ghost hunting gone wrong movie, which you know, we've seen plenty of those.

You know, stuff like grave encounters and the like.

But like I said, this one having the video game aspect is a slightly a little bit more original.

Um but again uh just like the last movie I talked about the third act left me a little disappointed. Uh it seemed like they were setting up for a really nice big

bombastic ending, but it just kind of ended up fill uh kind of fizzling out by the time we got to the end. So

Another one that I would still recommend, as it is Korean horror, which you know, I obviously I love Asian horror. Anyone who loves Asian horror should check this out.

As Mike and I have both said, it is on Netflix currently. So if you have an access to a Netflix account, no reason not to check this one out. This one was.

This one was solid.

Solid.

And then uh I'm gonna go ahead and bring in since uh Suzanne went ahead and brought in a couple of her favorites, I'm gonna bring in one of my all-time favorites that is almost a monthly watch for me. And that is not an exaggeration, as when I went to college.

In the early nineties.

This movie was

He was a daily

Daily watch. And I'm not exaggerating. Literally, my roommates and I, I think we owned all of three VHS.

Yeah.

Uh one of them was uh Freddy's Dead, another one was The Empire Strikes Back, and then this movie, which of course is Richard Link later's

Dazed and confused. Literally one of my favorite movies of all time. One of the only movies that I've Ever seen that gives us an accurate portrayal?

of a common high school stoner. I've I rail about this subject constantly.

uh on different podcasts where, you know, kind of like the The cinematic portrayal of stoners is always so.

boring and stupid and they they make potheads look out to look like absolute losers. I understand why people do that, especially if they've never partaken themselves. They don't understand what cannabis is all about.

But to watch Days and Confused, you can tell that there was some love for the green stuff on the set of this one. Uh whether it be actually being partaken of people partaking in it on set.

or just people having life experience with it because like I said, one of the most original and

Uh well, maybe not original. Original is not the right term because ultimately dazed and confused is a day in the life movie.

It's literally just the day in the life of these uh high school kids that are about to become seniors and basically the adventures that they go on on the last day of school. Literally the movie takes place in a 24-hour period.

It like I said, one of my favorite movies of all time. Whenever I see a dazed and confused alumni in another movie, I always get ins excited.

And I happily watch that movie, especially when I see them pop up in old like horror TV shows like Sasha Cohen.

showing up in an old episode of Tales from the Dark Side or something. You know, stuff like that just really, really makes me happy. So yeah, dazed and confused. Like I said, it's just a day in the life story.

Nothing grand about it, you know, just these kids.

Enjoying their last day of school. It's the summer of 1976. I did forget to mention that for anybody who's not familiar with the movie. So you get an amazing score just loaded with 70s rock and funk.

Um you've got great performances, early performances from people like Matthew McConaughey.

Uh Ben Afflack.

Black.

Um the those are probably the two biggest. Oh, and Parker Posey.

Three of the bigger names that come out of this movie to actually go on and have great, you know, uh theatrical careers. So yeah.

That's uh basically what I've been watching. Lots of television, but none of it.

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really genre related, a lot of animated stuff. And um what did I start? Oh, and then I started recently watching Avatar Season Two on Netflix, which

I am a hardcore fan of the original Avatar animated series from Nickelodeon. Um I I basically disavow the M Night Shyamalan uh last M airbender movie as it was one of the worst.

worst.

piles of crap I think I've ever laid my eyes on.

But this new live action series on Netflix is very solid. I think the original animated series is still probably a little bit better just because of what you can do with animation that you can't do with live action, but

Uh I'm still really, really happy with the series. So yeah.

So yeah.

That's pretty much what I've been up to and working about sixty, sixty five hours a week. So yeah.

Very tired, but always excited to watch new stuff.

New stuff.

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All right, cool. Uh before I kick it to core, I just was gonna mention I I recently purchased the uh

Criterion days and confused 4K and I watched it maybe I'm trying to look at I I scanned through my letterbox. I think maybe a week and a half, two weeks ago, uh Criterion still has their 50% off sale. And I had had it on my wish list and it was one of those cases where like

I already know I love the movie. I know I'm gonna get it eventually, so I kept passing it.

passing it up for other movies. And then this time I was finally like, you know, why

Am I not just buying it? So I did and yeah, it's it's amazing. I love it. And One thing I've really noticed this past time I watched it was The pacing flies by'cause like I I I I threw it on and before I knew it, they were already at the scene kinda after

the kegger at the at the football field when you kind of break off from the main party just so like you're close for and like you realize like wow the movies almost already over because You know, anyone who's seen it multiple times recognizes like, yeah, there's like one more scene after this and

It just It flies because there's like no

downtime. There's nothing like boring. It never slows down for like exposition or like

side character development. It's just constant go, go, go. So

Yeah, it's one of my all time favorites too. And I

Yeah.

It when it first released, I was about junior high age, so At the time I kind of related the most to

I don't even remember his name, but the the junior high kid that was about to go into high school and it gave me all these like, yeah, Mitch. It gave me all these uh bombastic ideas of like what it was gonna be to be an incoming freshman and then you know actually get into now granted this is

W this was seventy six in Austin, Texas. I would be

uh early mid nineties high school. So it is some time period later, but still like I get to high school and it's like not you know, it's completely normal, sanitized. Okay. But anyways, the movie, yeah, great cast. A lot of people kind of at the beginning

or i at the at their budding years of their career and it

It's never gone down in like my radium. It's it's constant, it always holds

Yeah.

B bunch of great needle drops um in this one. So I just figured I'd get that in since you brought it up, but

Let's go on to cort. Uh What have you been watching lately?

I wanna continue first of all the absolute love fest that we have going for Dazed and Confused. Um I'm gonna pretty much ditto everything that you said about how I first experienced it because it was on cable right as I was getting from eighth grade into ninth grade and it was literally the summer.

right before I was getting ready to start high school that that movie came into my life more or less. And that's how I got obsessed with it. Now the only thing I wanted to add on that is I've always had this weird theory ever since I was a kid.

about the movie that it is one hundred percent autobiographical and both the incoming freshman Mitch and And Randall Pink Floyd.

are the same person at both ends of high school.

basically interacting together to tell his sort of life story. Cause Randall Pink Flag says the thing about he had a bunch of cool seniors that busted his ass and then took him out drinking. And that's exactly what he does for Mitch.

Yeah, can I throw in my love too?

Absolutely. Why not?

the oldest person in the room, which is fine with me.

But I watch this movie.

I was twenty two when I When I rented a And I was leaving home.

to move out on my own.

Some people move a block away, some people move Maybe an hour away.

I moved fifteen hundred miles away.

I was done and And I watched this and the fact that it does have some idealism to it.

You know what You know, you want that year to be what you want to do with your life.

So this movie is always played really heavily in the back of my head.

And it's one of those movies you put on And It's like no time has passed.

Mm. It's fantastic. The music

Uh please, believe me, I would give up field hockey to go to an aerosmith show. Fuck it.

Ha ha ha.

Okay, as for what I've been watching, I wasn't going to admit one

thing until Mr. Venom actually brought it up. I've also started watching the second series of the live action avatar, which I absolutely love the original series.

Uh I was really, really obsessed with that. I think it was probably the very earliest days of streaming when it hit Netflix is when I got into it. I'm talking about like when Netflix just was sort of crossing over from disc to streaming is about the era that I got obsessed with.

And the live action is definitely the

better version of the live action ones, but I also agree there's so much more you can do with the animation and it's been really fun. I actually rewatched the whole animated series in anticipation of watching the second season when it came out and then rewatched the first season again.

Just to kind of get all of the feels together and kind of

be able to compare and contrast just'cause that's how my brain works. Well we all review movies for fun, right? And T V shows and things. So we all know how that is. You wanna be able to compare and contrast and kind of look at different takes on how things were made. And that's been a lot of fun.

Uh I've been going through the

uh boys gen V kind of combination where they all work together to tell the same story. Uh I watched the boys season four. I never watched the Gen V series.

And that kind of threw me off and my wife and I kinda just stopped.

And didn't watch season four, so when season five came back Or came out to just kind of close that off.

I decided to restart and actually watch the third season again, then Gen V And then my wife and I rewatched the fourth season.

And we're currently working our way through the second season of Gen V in anticipation to close this unnecessarily gross series off.

Yeah.

Uh movie wise, uh been it to the theater a few times, saw Masters of the Universe.

I actually really enjoyed it. I think if you're a He Man fan and you grew up watching He-Man, you should probably enjoy it as much as I did as well.

Did see obsession in theaters.

The less said about that film the better, other than I did really find it uh quite horrific in a lot of the scenes, although there's some other things that I found to be a bit more doldrum. And I think The more horrible

Horror, horror.

Horror and uh various things that you watch.

the more you start to see things that are very familiar to you in the newer media coming out, whether that is someone is influenced by it or they have an idea they think is original but you've already seen in a Tales from the Crypt episode, or perhaps like a night gallery.

Or even you know, the whole monkey's paw comparison works in

Yeah.

Yeah.

Simpsons episode. Yeah. Yeah, that's another one. Absolutely. Uh, and then the last thing I watched was Evil Dead Board. I mean Evil Dead Burn.

Burn.

Nothing.

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Thank you, Cort. Thank you.

Uh-huh.

Mm-hmm.

Will say this, it's not terrible, but my own wife looked at me and said, Am I getting desensitized? and I went No, that was fucking boring.

She just was like that she just kinda like was kind of shocked at how much nothing really moved her. I don't is this a marketing ploy that they're trying to get people to watch it by saying that it's the meanest one out of all of them? Because the people that are saying that I don't know if

They're watching the same film as me, or if I'm just that fucking psychotic. But knowing that at least the three of you agree with me from my Evil Dead board joke.

I'm happy and I feel vindicated and I'm done. I'll shut up now. Sorry.

Oh, 100% agree. Uh worst Evil Dead movie. I it's it barely feels like an Evil Dead movie, like maybe for the first act.

But by the time and me and Mike talked about this at length on the fresh cover.

That final confrontation, like, what the fuck was the point of that? Like that felt so out of place in an Evil Dead movie.

It it just felt I don't know, it it just felt like giving this abused woman her

Or you know, her closure or whatever. But it had no bearing on anything outside of her. And it that bothered the shit out of me, on top of the fact that it was just a completely CGI monstrosity. So Yeah.

I I hated that final uh that final confrontation.

It there's bits of it that are pretty decent. There's some really cool gross gore effects that they did, but

Yeah.

Getting rid of a lot of practical for CG, I I agree with you. And I feel like that final confrontation with the burn up like, you know, Dead Eight coming back to get his uh abused wife was like a direct almost scene for scene.

reshoot of what happens to Mia at the end of the Evil Dead remake that she's in, where the abomination thing comes up out of the earth when it's raining blood and And there's a lot of running and hiding and then fighting and then running and hiding.

And fighting and it's almost the like it's almost like kind of the same the way she goes and darts behind stuff. And I think my wife's biggest uh complaint about that was like how how did this movie think it was so scary to keep throwing people against walls and floors?

She got tired. She literally got tired.

Yeah.

Of watching people getting thrown against walls and floors. And I was like, But you know they do that all through the first one too, right? And she's like, Yes, but you can tell that they're actually getting hurt.

And it looks horrific. And I'm like, Yeah.

And then she's like, It does also not the only thing that

Yeah.

So yeah.

Also wanted to go back, uh, Suzanne's Love of Fallen got absolutely obsessed with that movie when that hit cable my senior year of high school.

And I totally agree. And I think that that movie was a better Evil Dead movie than Evil Deadboard.

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Uh I'll go with it.

You know what's funny when I when I went and saw

When saw the first remake of Evil Dead.

I I dragged my husband to the theater with me.

I'm I'm like ten minutes into the movie, I looked at him and it's like, I fucking hate this.

And then I mean it was we went out a matinee.

And they had like It was one of the first theaters In the area that

Lesbianas allowed you to drink. They had a full bar.

So you know, four lemon drops and a giant beer later.

I'm just sitting there, I'm like...

I'm like this this movie sucks. And the second the I I really, really hated the remake.

I really did.

I hated it especially because The whole movie could have been over in ten minutes if everybody had just laid down and just fucking died.

There was not a single likeable person.

So that's my little go off on that remake and the fact that they're like, oh, there's

It's all practical effects. There's no CGI. I'm like, I'm sorry.

You're you lie.

There is so much CGI here.

Okay, rat over. Thank you.

I feel less uh bad about my savaging of evil deadboard.

I'm I'm just gonna call it.

Fuck it.

Yeah. So what I what I said to my wife was um Evil Dead remake is now my least favorite.

of the Evil Dead series after watching Evil Dead board. I was like I don't hate it

But it's it's now my least favorite. It's just the least good.

of them all. It's not terrible. It's just

the least good. Which is Kind of weird thing for me to complain about, right?

Right.

And I actually... I really enjoyed the Evil Dead remake uh for all of its flaws, just because it was so unnecessarily gross and the unrated version has my heart.

No, I mean I I I actually watched it again to make sure that I I hated it as much as I thought I did.

And like I said, the the pro My problem is there's not a single character here that

You I wanted to live. I'm like, oh, just please open the book, read it, just fucking die.

Please, please.

die and the whole throwing away of the whatever the little ritual was of like, oh yeah, I've been there, done that.

Just die, please.

Please.

Yeah.

Make it bloody, which was cool.

I love the dancing corpse in the original Evil Dead. Yeah, that was like some serious practical effects out of very low budget.

But this one it was like, Jesus, you've gotta be kidding me.

I'm sitting here for this and 'Cause that even though it was a matinee, there were maybe fifteen people there that were actually It I'm I'm like whispering to my husband Once again.

Four lemon drop martinis.

And a really giant beer.

So maybe I'm not as whispery as I think I am.

And then the whole oh wait.

We have to stay till after the crisis because apparently there's And Easter egg at the end.

You know what I got?

Groovy.

I was at the p I at this point when that happened, I looked at my husband, I'm like This movie.

And now I'm done.

All right. Now next up is our Leave you thoughts on evil did wrath.

[Silence]

You know, I'm gonna give it a chance'cause I wasn't really thinking I would like Evil Dead Rise and I really enjoyed that one.

Apart from the original series, it's been the best one of these like newer remake ones so far. And it has a lot to do with I gave a shit about every character that was in that film. Like and I I felt for them. It had a lot more heart than

this most recent one does, it just didn't work for me. And then Evil Dead, the remake, didn't have the heart either, but it sure had the grue and grossness and dark humor that I was hoping for. So But like I said, Evil Deadboard is now just the least favorite.

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

All right. Well that was a little bonus uh review at the

Ha ha ha.

Hope everyone enjoyed that more than Evil Deadboard.

Ha ha

Or or fans of Evil Deadboard have now officially sworn off this show, at least this episode. So

Yeah, don't at me bro. I'm not on your social medias anymore.

Yeah.

All right, so I will Keep it brief.

'Cause I watch a lot of stuff while I'm working, so I I'm never gonna go over like everything, but I will bunch A couple together just'cause it's a m it's a movie and it's sequel and that would be from nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty four, the exterminator and exterminator two

And you can guess what kind of movie it is. I mean I I would say these are like

B movies of B movies. So I don't know if that makes it a C movie, but think like Escape from New York, mixed with a little like running man esque Yeah, basically the the first one is this guy getting revenge on the mob.

Because they paralyzed his friend who's in the hospital, so we get a big Yeah.

Yeah.

Now I looked up the ratings of the two and It seemed like the first one is rated a little higher, like in a as aggregate, but I actually kind of like the second one.

Mm-hmm.

A little better because I I feel like it it's more absurd, more over the top, more violent. And then you have Mario Van Peebles as the gang leader and he's decked out in like mad max like

gear and stuff. So And to me, if you're gonna make these B movie rip offs, like

They're not gonna be good in the traditional sense. So what do you wanna do? You wanna ramp everything up to eleven as far as like the violence and

Just vulgarity and all that kind of stuff. And if that's what you're looking for on a evening i i they both deliver

Yeah.

So That's Exterminator and Exterminator Two.

The next one is a a classic I assume everyone here knows uh about it, uh Knight of the Hunter.

I don't even know why I threw it on. I mean it's It's an all time classic in my eyes, but Man, it's

It's terrifying. Robert Meetchum And this was a handful of years before he was Max Cady in the original Cape Fear.

And

Man, I don't know if this is the role that convinced him to cast him, but he is terrifying in this, in his pursuit of that ten thousand dollars. And some of the shots

in in this movie. I I know people consider this like an early southern Gothic Noir movie and I think it

perfectly kind of describes the style, the black and white cinematography, uh s the the the use of the score. And there there's a sequence where the the kids are escaping his clutches and they're trying to get to like a little uh rowboat on the lake and his pursuit and just

That whole sequence is is great. So Not of the hunter if

If if people haven't seen it yet, definitely check it out. I believe it's on Prime, but I think it was listed as like leaving soon. So hopefully it pops up.

somewhere else if you don't own it it it is worth owning and i don't think it has a 4k yet but it definitely has a blu-ray Um the next one, the housemaid and not the

Not the Sydney Sweeney one from what last year or maybe earlier this year actually. Uh there is it's from nineteen sixty. Uh and let's see, what's the name of the director? Kim Ki-Young.

And I had this on my list. I I'm doing the hundred years, a hundred movie challenge this year and This was uh number thirty five, so nineteen sixty, and uh this is

Actually, surprisingly, it is kind of a similar setup if you have seen that uh modern housemate movie. I mean, they're I don't think they're related in any way because the modern one is based on a book, but this one, it's basically a husband and wife.

Take on a housemaid because the grind of being new parents and the husband's working and the wife is kind of overworked at home.

Take on a housemaid, the housemaid ends up to be not all there mentally and

You a like everything you think would ensue does as far as like it changes the whole dynamic of the house. Uh things go a little bit crazy.

And you know, I won't spoil it'cause I assume not a lot of people I've seen this one just being a nineteen sixty movie.

Um, but it was really good. I I really highly recommend this one. And it Just so much that I actually started uh a compiled a list of this director's movies

Yeah.

On letterbox that You know, one day I'll eventually get you'cause you know Curating lists.

tends to be our favorite pastime. And then we look over it every once in a while like, wow, I'm probably never going to get to these, but I really want to watch them.

So yeah, housemaid. And then the last one.

Is actually a uh

Twenty or I think it's a twenty twenty six movie. I mean it's it's listed as twenty twenty four, but I don't think it was available to now. I think it's just one of those cases of being an indie movie where like, oh, we we threw it around this uh the festival circuits.

But f it finally got uh picked up and that is Monkey's magic merry go round is

Yeah.

And uh I gotta tell ya, the the m the title sounds goofy.

It sounds like it's a mistake to throw it on, but I found this i this movie to be Kind of like if The premise of Hokum took place in mister Rogers neighborhoods uh neighborhood of make believe.

And if if that's a lot of take a lot to take in, just Digest it a little bit and

Realize what I'm saying. And that's kind of what this originally I was like, maybe it's like the shining in the neighbor or the neighborhood of make believe, but

Yeah.

I thought about it more and I'm like, you know, it kind of follows like a lot of the things that Hokum does with the main character going through

Yeah.

the mental stuff and the past trauma and

Yeah.

And a totally different setting. And I really liked it. I gotta say, twenty twenty six

Thanks.

Uh i it it's kind of impressing me with like the bizarre stuff that's coming out this year because uh buffet infinity.

I really liked and that's probably the one of the most bizarre ones so far I've seen. And then um Be I think there's one coming out in August called like Benny?

Which looks like another kind of like crazy Childhood show gone awry.

Um so Keep'em coming because we're gonna be s uh Deprived of like a lot of

theatrical stuff I think for the next couple of months. I mean there's some stuff sprinkled in here and there, but it's gonna be V O D

for a lot of the rest of the year. So give us the bizarre, give us the absurd. I I'm here for it.'Cause

A lot of times that ends up being better than like this the VO stuff they try to make s serious. But uh

Yeah.

Yeah, so monkeys magic merry around now available on VOD, so find Where it's streaming and check it out if that at all sounds interesting to anybody here or listening.

It's I'm glad you brought up Buffet Infinity because I actually completely forgot to. Uh earlier when I started talking about what I've been watching, I said I was gonna bring up my number one horror film of the year, and then I completely forgot to.

But then here comes Mike to bring it up. Yes, Buffet Infinity is my favorite horror film of the year.

I absolutely adore it.

I do wish that they would not have changed the presentation style in the third act. I understand why they did it, which is why I'm not gonna rail against it necessarily.

But

I adore that film. I've watched it like five times already. And um I mean, I bought it digitally since there's no physical release for it yet, but goddamn do I love that movie. I highly recommend it if you like it. I'll just say this.

If your favorite part of the WNUF Halloween special was the fake commercials, You will absolutely love Buffet Infinity.

So check it out as soon as you

As soon as you can.

Yeah. Yeah.

the first person that's mentioned that movie to me and I'm apparently that's moving way to the top of the list now.

Ha ha.

Yeah, I mean WNUF is literally a a Halloween night watch for me every year since it's been released. I absolutely love that film. And yeah, Buffet Infinity is probably the closest thing to come to it since. So yeah.

Chao, ya.

I like it.

Yeah, it it it it's definitely one of those movies where like as much as I really like it, I can see like me recommending it to the wrong person. They're like, what the hell's wrong with you? But so I'm saying like anyone that likes WNUF or that kind of style.

In a movie.

Go see the Faye Infinity because it's it's really good. And it was really well done. It's creative, it's kinda innovative and

Yeah. I I love how it kind of like slow walks what it's ultimately gonna be and then it just adds a little layer.

Every scene and then uh yeah, I Yeah, I thought it was great.

That's great.

And my Halloween watches.

Same three.

Every year.

I always start off with trick or treat.

just because I can rock after that soundtrack and get all pumped up for whatever I'm gonna be doing.

You know, followed up with WNUF and just to add the scares to it.

I always throw on Ghost Watch after.

Chapter.

Ah, nice. I I s I still have not seen the second WNUF c is it still only available to like buy directly from them?

And it's I think it's still only available.

On VHS.

Uh-huh. Oh bang.

Yeah, my VHS player.

Finally Bit the dust uh About a year ago, and I

I've done everything I can. I can't even resurrect it.

I talked to two of my machinist friends to see if they could build parts for it and they're like, just give it up.

I I have a VHS player

in the garage. I now I know when we put it in there it was still working, so I assume

Like it's just resting and it would work if I ever want to use it again, but you never know. Like it's been a long time.

No

Yeah.

Reels will Yeah.

Yeah, video heads don't do well in a hot uh garage for too long.

Too long.

Old video.

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I know.

No, I was

Yeah, but you can buy a VCR for like twenty bucks. So there's that.

Well then again I should probably go

Check that out.

Because I was about ready to start.

go through the second purge of my VHS tapes'cause I threw out I think Roughly eighty pounds of VHS take.

Yeah.

And now I could kick myself in the ass for doing that.

Yeah. Ha ha ha.

Yeah, too many yard sales of things that now go for hundreds and hundreds of dollars on my

Oh I know.

I wanna bring it back really quick to we were talking about the Exterminator and Exterminator too, because Mike just recently rewatched them. The writer and director, James Glickenhouse of the original Exterminator, and then he wrote the second one.

has been responsible for some serious cinematic masterpieces that are very similar.

To the exterminator.

Uh as a director.

As a director, the one I wanna highlight

Light.

is right around nineteen ninety one he made a movie called McBain. If that sounds like a Simpsons reference to you, that is because the Simpsons are referencing that movie. It is ridiculous. There's a scene in there where I think if I remember correctly,

McBain, who is played by Christopher Walken, and yes, you'll thank me later after you watch the movie now that you know that.

Shoots?

In air.

with a handgun from a helicopter and explodes it.

It's just...

It's like a level of

Level of ridiculous

Like I can't I cannot even describe. Uh so yeah, McBain, I highly recommend if you like If you like silly weird action films, check out McBain and I think the

people that own the rights to that movie actually tried to get a cease and desist going on The Simpsons to stop using the name McBain for that action character because they knew that it was ruining The

way that people would take their movie serious as if that was something that you could do after that scene I just described.

Yeah, the fact that A movie called McBain and Christopher Walken is in it.

Already sold. With blonde hair.

I think.

I I like blonde Christopher Walker.

It was the best part of living daylights, right? Wasn't that wasn't no was he no he was um

No, it was uh no no no view to a kill.

View a kill, yeah, yeah. That was the best part of that movie, besides Grace Jones, obviously, was Christopher Watkins like yellow flat top.

It wasn't even blonde.

Like straight up yellow.

And back to exterminator for a minute.

Robert Ginty, Mr. Babyface himself was like literally They're hot in a bunch of movies.

I mean, I mean not hot is in ooh hot.

But you know, hot as an actor for what, about twenty minutes?

But it was so good!

So good.

It's it's

It's...

a crime.

He carries that movie like

The Exterminator for sure. And Exterminator too.

I like a lot more because Exterminator is like, let's do Death Wish, only let's give the guy a garbage truck and a flamethrower. And then Exterminator no, that's Exterminator too.

Uh but Exterminator is like Exterminator is like Deathwish in that he goes out and kills people for revenge and in the second one he has a garbage truck and a flamethrower and it's like

uh almost Deathwish Three, where like there's no way that there's a city that's descended this far into like Italian movie a post apocalyptic style like they portray in those Deathwish movies. And that's what Exterminator Two is very much like. It takes place in that same World.

Oh god damn, I love Deathwish three. Oh.

My favorite of the series for that very reasonable.

the giggler.

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I've always been

When it comes to Bronson, I've always been a huge fan of assassination.

I don't know why I love the body of work, but

Assassination is just so over the top and ridiculous. I just love it.

Mine's Mr. Majestic, which we haven't done on my show yet, but I really need to. I that's my favorite Bronson movie of all time.

Uh Mr. Majestic's great. I was about to buy ten to midnight, but the price just like went up by fifteen dollars. Yeah.

Yeah. Tend to Midnight's a really good one as well. Yeah. Yep. But I absolutely I will I my very first uh Bronson movie was Mr. Majestic. I saw it on T B S as a kid and I was just enamored with it. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

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Yeah. I think.

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Mechanic, yeah.

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Bunch of mini reviews, but not the actual reviews we were meant to do, right, guys?

Ha ha.

Glad you brought that up because I think that's a good time to take a break and listen to a movie trailer for Our first movie

This is

Are we are still in The month of something Growing on you.

Theme.

Okay.

First up, I I guess I can say it. Now first up is going to be basket case. So we will take a break while you listen to that trailer and be back to discuss.

Basket case.

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What is the secret Dwayne is hiding in the basket?

Basket.

What's in the basket? Easter eggs?

Thanks.

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What's in the basket?

Clothes.

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What's in the basket?

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What's in the basket?

Five brother.

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Open it.

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All right, our first movie up.

From nineteen eighty two, I believe Frank Henelauter's debut, at least like Featured debut.

Yeah, is basket case and well we'll take the synopsis off I am DB, I assume, like Everyone listening is familiar, but uh a young man carrying a big basket that contains his extremely deformed, a formerly conjoined twin brother seeks vengeance on the doctor's Who separated them against the

their will so Why we'll kick it around the cast to get kind of our general thoughts on basket case.

so let's see

Tried and true. Co host Venom, what did you think?

Of well, I I'm posing it like this is your first time seeing it, which I assume it's not. So just tell us about basket case. What do you what do you uh think about it?

Yeah.

I am a gigantic Frank Henan Lauder fan. I love all of his movies. Granted, in varying degrees, not to say that they're all just as good as the last, but Um, on a podcast that I was on that ended, unfortunately, a few years ago, uh called In the Mike of Madness, we actually did a hen and lauder.

retrospective where we actually did all of his films From basket case up to bad biology.

And man.

What a filmography this guy has.

I think I think brain damage is probably still one of my favorite ones to watch. I know Frank, I I know uh Frankenhooker.

Is you know, one that people kinda gravitate towards and of course this movie back.

Ask a case, but yeah, man, something about Elmer.

And uh or Almer has uh it it's it's spelled very weird. I think uh Elmer is probably still acceptable, but I know it's uh spelled oddly. But yeah, something about brain damage just always worked for me. But anyway, back to basket case.

What's funny about Basket Case for me is that I watch this almost annually, but it's not for the kills. It's not to see, you know, uh our main star, and it's not to see Belial.

I've said this on multiple podcasts, and now I'm saying it here. I watch this movie to see Old New York. I miss Old New York.

Um Suzanne made a comment earlier about being the oldest one here.

Mm, if you were 22 when uh Dazed and Confused came out, uh I am definitely older than you, but I am an East Coast kid for those who don't know. I come from Connecticut.

Less than two hours outside of New York City, and at least once a month I would take a metro train into Times Square.

And man.

New York in the 80s, man, it had a pulse, it was like a living, breathing city.

Yeah.

When you go to Times Square now, it's just so generic with its coffee shops and uh

uh j comic book stores and just other the MM store. It's i it's just so commercialized now. I miss the days when you could go and You know, go to a strip club for a couple of years.

For a couple of hours.

Of hours and then cross the street and go see a martial arts double feature at the Strand Theater. It's like that's my New York. Watching this movie reminds me of the dirty, grubby, uns.

unsafe New York that most upstanding citizens would try to avoid.

I loved it. As a teenager, underage, mind you, I would take the train into New York City and I.

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drug deals at every corner. It's like that was New York to me.

I and I know that's a weird thing to say because it's like I I'm kind of embracing the debauchery of old New York, but it's like that's what it felt like being there. And Basket Case is one of those movies that really brings that feeling back to me.

Dirty, grubby.

You know, the hotel that Dwayne stays in feels like a hotel that I've been in. Uh

Just you seeing

seeing the talking to the prostitutes, you know, having whole conversations with them. That, you know, obviously they knew, you know, being underage, I had no interest in paying money for anything that they had to offer. But Some of the stories that these women would tell were

Just were amazing. One of them, even like I think one of them told a story about her, she almost got murdered by a serial killer.

Killer.

Like this is the New York that I miss, and again I know that sounds awful.

Because you know, ultimately Times Square is a much safer place now for white people with money.

But white people with money don't concern me, so

Yeah.

Ha ha I miss old New York. So yes, basketball.

I grew up in New York.

Hey.

I I can't well we'll we'll discuss when it's my turn, but Yeah.

Awesome. So yeah, like I said, this and a lot of other Hen and Lauder movies. I know like Basket Case 2 and 3 take place on Long Island. I actually had an aunt that lived on Long Island. So

Again, Hen and Lauder reminding me of my childhood and all the different times I would visit New York State. Just

Love it. Now the movie itself.

You know, it it's it's a fun little independent movie.

You know, as long as you don't go in expecting, you know, amazing special effects and amazingly bloody kills. There are some great kills in this movie.

And man, what's funny is that I almost always forget how brutal that surgery scene is. For as often as I watch this movie, I it it always kind of surprises me that, oh yeah, this is like one of the bloodiest scenes in the whole movie is the damn surgery scene. So And painful, obviously.

Obviously.

Over it.

Fun movie. I like our main character. I like Belial. I like our story. Um I I like the interesting dichotomy between Dwayne and Belial as far as

How one feels like they can't live without the other to the point that he would actually kill the first girl that his brother, you know, gets serious with. I mean

Yeah, Belial is definitely by the end of this movie. Belial goes from a sympathetic character to the absolute villain of this movie.

Yeah.

But I like the journey. The journey from point A to point B is so just great.

Great.

These characters in the hotel, the hotel manager, like just everybody in here, whether they were meant to be a scumbag or not, they're somehow still likable. Like I like everyone in this building, even the old guy that tries to steal from Dwayne.

It it makes sense. It you know, it totally, you know, comes from reality. So Just overall

Everywhere.

Fun film, something that I love. I own the box set, so this is, you know, something that I kind of return to. Um, I actually love basket case two. Basket case three leaves me a little, eh.

Like, I... I there are elements of basket case three that I like, but overall.

But overall.

Overall, it didn't do a whole lot for me, but I I actually love Basket Case too. I think that's a great film. I love that twist ending. It kind of brings Dwayne and Belial's story full full circle.

Um, and especially when you find out when you know of the existence of Basket Case Two and some of the events that take place there, it adds more emotional weight to the original, especially like I said, Belial.

attacking, you know, the first girl that, you know, has given Dwayne any kind of attention. So

Yeah, overall fun movie. I enjoy it for you know, uh it's a silly concept, but Ultimately for an indie movie from the early eighties set in my favorite city in the world.

your friends.

I absolutely love this film. So yeah, I'll I'll shut up. I've been talking way too long about this.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's...

It's funny you bring up like old New York because I was too young in this era to like experience it firsthand, but It is one of my memories about like a lot of independent film.

Or I don't know about well, independent slash low budget, I guess, uh, film that took place in cities like New York or Chicago, um even LA to some extent, uh depending on the movie where They just look like the most dangerous, but

interesting and like places you wanted to go despite the danger. Like there was something Appealing.

There was something like intoxicating about like

the life of like what what kind of what kind of life do you live on like the streets of these big cities? By the time I got old enough to like Actually start.

venturing out on my own, like A lot of the grime and the filth.

was like cleaned up or at least like pushed into like

Okay.

corners of the city. But uh I

I it it's one of the things I miss about film like this era. Now for me it was more VHS like I would find these movies, including this one, Basket Case, when I saw it for the first time.

Mm-hmm.

It was on a it took me a while because

The classic case of hey, the video store has one copy. It seems to always be rented out, so you end up

seen ten other movies before you get to it. But the the The cover

in the basket with the eyes sticking out. Always It was like a creepy looking box.

uh cover on the VHS and finally got a hold of it and uh Yeah, it's It's just a weird ass little movie.

But it's fun and You you see a head and laugh or like the kind of Sense of humor in the macabre.

that he brings to like not just this movie but all his movies, but you see the foundation set here. The The pr the practical effects is is just like

the kind of DIY practical effects uh aspect to it, something that just seems to get lost in a lot of movies in this era. Like it's not completely gone. We still have low budget and independent movies doing practical effects, but man There was just something about

Yeah.

This era. Um the goofy our goofy uh brother character in this, uh Dwayne.

Um

He always cracks me up with like just just the hairstyle they have in my in this movie.

That eighties kind of frow y looking hair they got him wearing it loud and proud in this movie. And

Well, he looks like the lead singer of Ario Speedwagon.

Oh, he can't fight this feeling.

Yeah, you gotta catch him on the run and

At the end of the movie it was time for him to fly, I guess.

Quite literally.

Yeah.

Oh my god, we are old.

Yeah.

Ha ha ha.

Everyone listening's like Googling, like who the hell are they talking about here? Right.

Right.

RDO what?

What? The fucker?

Fuck are these old people talking about?

Yeah.

Are they talking about Oreo cookies? What?

Oreo speed wagon, what the hell?

That's my new favorite tribute band name for Ario Speedwagon is Oreo Speedwagon.

Oh yeah!

Um but to that point, Venom, like I love movies where the city it takes place in is a character in itself. And I think that's part of Like the appeal to like uh The old world Yeah.

Uh before they got before they kinda cleaned up and just became bigger versions of like every other city. They kinda felt distinct. They kinda you know, uh they were always gonna be part of the movie.

Uh and I love the side characters in this, just everyone's kind of like quirky and different like uh there's almost no character in this movie you would consider like a normal person

you know, quote unquote normal. They are all kind of eccentric in their own ways. Um But yeah, I'm gonna...

Kick it to Suzanne next. Uh J you know, what are your thoughts on Basket Case?

I just love the hell out of this movie.

And it was

I got a little blurb when I started the movie. I was too lazy to pull out my Blu-ray of it, so I'm like Where is it streaming?

Fuck yeah.

So And there is a blurb that it was preserved.

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That says a lot.

About this movie.

And the use of You know, basically it was filmed in the Bowery district.

Right.

Where you can literally See

Smell.

Smell it almost touch.

The sleaze just.

Stripping off.

Yeah. And I've I'm gonna go with Venom here.

I love-

Love.

Part two Part two Is just Фантастик And what makes part two great for me.

'Cause yeah, this was the I I watched it like end of summer.

And I'd been watching, you know, soap operas with my grandmother all week.

There were eight.

of soap opera stars.

In part two.

Right down to I don't know if there's any young of the restless fans here.

You remember But

their daughter Victoria. She played his love interest in basket case too.

So there's just a little sidebar.

That probably means nothing.

But yeah, there's just something f magical about this movie.

The practical effects are just Brilliant.

Yeah.

And even i I swear it looked like stop mode.

Stop motion.

ocean claymation when Belial is running around destroying the room.

The room.

And he stretched every single penny of that shoestring budget.

For everything that was done, and it was done.

In such a Vivid way.

I mean it is literally So much you could you can touch it and smell it.

I can smell the damn garbage on the street.

But I mean, you have to admit at this h it at its heart.

It's kind of a love story.

The love between two brothers and one brother tried to Trying to go his own way.

But that bond is

Bond is a little

And we get like a little scene that is Obviously Stuart Gordon had seen this movie, you know, it's kinda

Stole a part of them.

Well part of this, you know what I'm talking about from Reanimator.

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But yeah, this is just it's f it's classic.

New York.

And I agree. I God.

I remember the city just being piled up with garbage. I was like No, maybe thirteen or so when we moved to central New York.

But I I still went back a lot and visited my friends and You know, I God, I can't remember what movie we went to see at one of those theaters.

On forty second street where Thank God it was raining because we were beating the rats off with our umbrellas.

And the bathrooms were Horrifying.

So yeah, it's just it's a slice of that.

time that's so gone. There's no character in New York anymore.

Even I I mean, I live right outside of Chicago now.

Chicago has no character anymore. You know where not to go.

And It's everything is sanitized now, which is probably a good thing.

But yeah, basket case this is

This is

definitely one of those movies that Every few years I just have to kick back with D Dwayne and Belial.

And by the way, if Don't name your kid Belial after a demon and maybe they won't be Psychotic?

Maybe just a thought?

I don't know.

But I do have to throw out my favorite One of my favorite scenes in this movie.

I love it when they set the trap.

And cut the old man in half.

It is just beautiful, but And thank God they had the auntie there that really gave a damn about them.

And I'm so happy for her'cause she is the superstar in this.

So yes, basket case.

Wonderful.

And that's where

that's where I'm gonna leave off.

Tantrums as Balal throws in this movie, he's still not as annoying as the kid in Bobaduke, so Yeah.

Why can't you just be

Yeah.

All right, Carr, bring us home on basket case.

Yeah.

Okay, well um

Um

Ditto to just about everything everybody had to say except for the first time that they watched it and how they watched it. Um and I'm obviously not old enough to have made it to a New York that I so desperately pine for that exists in this film.

But just knowing that there were so many theaters that you could just walk into and just start watching so many great films that I'm obsessed with nowadays from the video era and renting VHS as a kid.

Man, I just I pine for some type of time travel that I could waste on going to that era of Times Square. It seems really dumb, but that's what I would do. I wouldn't try and save the world. I'd just go back and stay there and that would be my happy place.

Ha ha ha.

Uh a few things I want to add. Um there is a missed opportunity that Hennenlauter had with this film. The lady who plays Sharon.

She was in a punk band. I think they were called the Tattooed Vegetables. The band, every single one of the members were female and shaved their heads.

Her head was shaved, she was wearing a wig, and it was a very bad wig at that. They could have had Balal scalp her and it could have been a very cheap and easy effect to do just using the wig.

Only thing I want to mention.

Yes. Yeah. Everything else about the film absolutely love. I hate trying to say things are quote unquote lightning in a bottle, but that's what this film would film would definitely feel like unless you go out and seek Hennan Lauders.

Other material because he continues variations on these themes and these ideas and stretching so little money so

Yeah.

so far in doing so much amazing work.

And I'm even a bigger fan of the stuff he's doing now. His documentary work is impeccable. Uh that's

Uh that's sexy.

That sexploitation is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. And Hennenlauter is the whole reason that that thing exists.

I'm not gonna stretch out my review any further because if anybody wants to hear what I have to say about all three basket case films

Mm I got an episode I did a full franchise fest on them and I ran it and raved and talked about how much I love them all. And everybody already covered it. So I'm just gonna stop here.

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Okay. All right. Yeah, I mean I expected Basket Case was gonna get a lot of love with this crowd, just knowing all of our tastes through the years in movies.

Yeah, I mean, if...

If anyone's watching it for the first time as a result of listening to the show, I would say Get a hold of more help.

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Kind of comedy mixed with Bizarre horror and practical effects.

And he tends to get better.

With the ski like the skills and the practical effects, it it tends to get better with each movie in many ways.

I will leave it at that.

For basket case.

And We will take a short break to listen to the trailer.

For our second movie.

Which is

Total recall. So we will be right back.

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Is the center of your life.

It is everything you hear.

Everything you see.

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Everything you feel.

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It is everything you are.

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How would you know?

If someone stole your mind.

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ARREST THAT WOMAN!

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Get ready for us.

For a surprise.

We can't let him run around. He knows too much. They've got your bug. I get a lock.

And the bugs in your skull.

Take this thing out of the case.

And stick it up your nose.

Don't worry, it's self guiding.

Got him.

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Well

You got a lot of nerves showing your face around here.

Around here.

Look who's talking.

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Erased her identity and implanted a new one.

If I'm not me.

Who the hell am I?

Welcome to Johnny Cat Drive. Where can I take you tonight?

Please fasten your seat though.

I want Kway delivered alive for re-implantation.

That's for making me come to Mars.

Thank you.

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You wouldn't hurt me.

After all, we're married.

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Hope you enjoyed the ride.

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Second movie on the bill tonight is nineteen nineties Total Recall.

When a man goes in to have a virtual vacation, memories of the planet Mars implanted into his mind, an unexpected and harrowing series of events provided.

Forces him to go to the planet.

For real.

Or is he?

And we have directed by the wonderful Paul Verhoven and you have to admit we got a s Stand up cast here.

Arnold Sharon Stone, Michael Ironside, whatever happened to Rachel Ticketon.

Roddy Cox. Marshall Bell. One of my favorite understated characters, Michael Champion.

So I We're gonna start this off.

Cort.

You're on

Copenhagen! Give these people a hair!

Uh sorry, I had to do it.

Uh Jesus, what is there to actually say about total recall here? Uh In this day and age.

Uh I think I probably saw this film.

At a very, very early age, I I think it was like my uncle recorded like several movies that were on a showtime preview to a VHS. So it was like An Arnold Schwarzenegger fest of like predator

And then Total Recall and then like another movie. And I remember watching that tape so much that I wore it out and I ended up having to rent total recall just so I

Yeah.

Same thing with Predator and all of that.

We were kind of talking about it off mic and and Venom mentioned that this is the movie, right? This is the one that

that uh Arnold meme noise actually comes from with that review or just everybody watching this film. And there's so many quotable lines in this. Uh the one thing that I still to this day will do anyone

Anytime anyone says two weeks is almost the entirety of the two weeks scene, including jamming my hands in my mouth and pulling on them, shouting two weeks.

And when someone says I have two weeks' vacation, I almost end up in HR every time.

By responding that way.

So uh

This

This is probably my favorite Paul Verhoven film. I'm not really a huge fan of Star Trip Troopers, but I know why a lot of people would probably like that one more. I really do dig a lot of

the themes that they've got going. I know this is like nothing like the book. They've completely changed it. And I've never really read the book. I've only ever really experienced this film and

And

It's just always like a pure joy to watch. You can always just have it on in the background and just let it play. There's so many quotable lines, so many really cool moments. And I gotta say, watching it again to just review this show.

I am enamored with Michael Ironside's performance. He is somehow understated and chewing the entire scenery everywhere in every scene he's in.

All at once, and it's amazing. Uh, and I love that Ronnie Cox is basically playing the evil corporate overlord guy from Robocop, but on Mars.

But it's the same guy. Copenhagen and and the guy that ran uh O C P are the exact same person.

I think they just were born in two different eras. So uh it's a wonderful film. It's really fun to watch.

It's just a a pure joy and dumb action film, but also filled with some really great practical effects. Some of the scenes are a little bit more visible in the mutants these days.

Uh some of the things are a little bit more obvious uh in the differences between body sizes than that two weeks scene that I was mentioning where he's trying to sneak through customs and then his mask fails.

And there's a few things that are a little bit more obvious, but I think that's more because I've watched so many films now and I look for things like that, like seams and effects and all of that kind of stuff.

Uh the shifting in reality

that happens in the story, the way that it tries to fuck with your head and you're not sure what is real and what is fake is always a fun thing that a visual medium like film does. I really enjoy the scene where the guy's trying to convince him that he's

trapped in a chair, about to have some kind of like embolism and die if he doesn't take this red pill. And I wonder if maybe the Matrix folks were kind of borrowing something there.

Who knows? But uh yeah, it's it's a lot of fun. I really enjoy total recall. And uh we didn't even talk about the part where Quado's growing on you yet.

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All right.

Mr Vanom.

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Again, uh just like with Cort, I mean, what could I say about this film that hasn't already been said a million times? This is just this is peak Arnold Schwarzenegger, in my opinion. I mean, this whole run that he had with like commando

And and this and other movies of the period just ah that I mean, like I I absolutely adored Schwarzenegger in the late eighties, early nineties.

I've never been a big sci-fi fan, so when I first saw the trailer for this movie, I was a little worried about it at first, but I did end up actually going to the theater to see this one when it first came out.

And fell in love with it instantly. I mean, yes, it's sci-fi, but it's so much more than that. I mean, you've got the espionage, the political drama.

You know, the spy stuff.

Obviously, some good practical effects with the people, you know, breathing in the atmosphere of Mars, or at least the original atmosphere of Mars.

Um

Beautiful scenes, great story. Um Anytime you c I can see a woman with three breasts, I mean, how am I not gonna take that?

Opportunity, so of course.

Course.

Uh I absolutely love that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I actually really like Thumble.

I like Thumbelina.

Lena in this one. There's like there's a few deleted scenes with her that I wish would have been left in the movie. It would have kind of expanded her character a little bit more. But the little the small amount of her that we get, no pun intended.

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is actually still solid. I always liked her.

Um, I mean, uh there's not a bad performance in this movie. I mean, Benny, you know, great foil, great reveal, you know, of his betrayal.

Uh just

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You know, we've already talked about Ironside and Ronnie Cox and Man.

It really it really kind of uh Michael Ironside does a really good job of making boss character look like a boss because

Michael Ironside getting yelled at and then looking down at his shoes is not something that we're used to. Usually, Michael Ironside is running things, you know.

much much more akin to like turbo kid than you know say what we get here.

But

J you know, he he like Cort said, he's at the same time understated, yet somehow the biggest one of the biggest personalities in this movie. And it's just you know uh stellar performance, I think, by him.

Of course, yes, Ronnie Cox, uh, you know, reuniting with Verhoeven again. I actually um Cort mentioned this being his favorite Verhoeven. I actually tend to lean more towards Robocop. I and I couldn't give you a specific reason why other Other than

I just have always l you know, Robocop's another movie. I actually saw RoboCop.

multiple times in theaters during its initial run. I loved it that much.

Um but You know Great to see, you know, Ronnie Cox again.

um

I mean, what what what can we possibly say about this? I I every time I watch this movie, I forget how attractive Sharon Stone actually was.

I'm not the biggest Sharon Stone fan as far as her films go.

Um, and honestly, I didn't really watch a lot of her stuff in the nineties other than like this and maybe what the specialist.

I think that would be a good thing.

Honestly.

Never saw a base again.

I was about to say it.

To this day you've never seen it?

Wow. I have never seen I've seen scenes, like I've seen the rabbit scene and I've seen, you know, I'm sure you've seen.

Sure you've seen the scene.

Yeah, yeah, there've been lots of different scenes and the ending. I mean I've seen the ending in various Um top ten lists, blah blah blah, but um

No, I've never actually sat down to watch it. Dramas for the most like dramas is is a genre of film that I tend to kind of avoid.

Like the way I look at it is

Life is drama. I don't why would I want to walk a you know, separate myself from my life for two hours to watch someone else's drama? It's just, you know, I I want to be entertained by my movies. Not to say that drama isn't entertaining, of course it is, but just for someone like me.

It's not.

Ciao!

You know, whatever.

But um, yeah.

Again, uh

Total in uh total instinct. Total recoil.

Total instinct. Oh.

Oh man.

You know, if you put the

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three boobed lady into Total Instinct and make it like a porn parody.

Of total recall, but like it's a mashup of basic instinct, I'm in.

Шу-шу-шу-шу-шу.

I just want to see I want to see Schwarzenegger in Basic Instinct. That'd be great. What did you do to my rabbit?

Hello.

Just come on. Awesome. Anyway, I'm good. I'm running long again. I'm sorry, folks.

Regular listeners of Mike and I's shows of Mike and myself's podcasts know that I like to talk and sometimes I need to be told to shut up. So the long and the short of it is.

Absolutely fucking love total recall. Watched it again today. Still holds up. I mean

Yeah.

Two hours.

Never looked at my phone once. It's still one of those movies that commands your attention. It's a great story. I will say one of the only

grievances I might have with this movie is just that Kohagan's plan was a little too convoluted. It's one of those plans where every single step has to go right or the whole thing goes to shit.

And, you know, it it it the convenient plot points, if you will. Um and which th you know, th this movie doesn't use them egregiously necessarily, but they are there. So That's it's one of the only nitpicks I have about this movie, is just you know, Kohagen's plan in general.

With you know, Hauser and what he's doing with wiping his mind and blah blah blah. Yes, in the end it ends up working.

But then in the end it also ends up being, you know, Kohagan's downfall too. So, you know.

Get out.

To say what you will about that.

But Ultimately, love the movie.

Fun time.

It is absolutely a time capsule of nineteen ninety. I mean, if this is what sci-fi would have remained beyond the nineties, maybe I would have stuck with it more, but You know, sci-fi kind of went more the gravity and interstellar routes, which again.

Nothing wrong with that if you love those movies, but they they kind of tend to lean too much into the sci-fi for me personally, whereas Mrs. Venom adores sci-fi.

Like the the movies that I just named are some of her favorites ever, and you know, God bless her for it, because I don't really like sci fi that.

that much.

much so she tolerates my horror. I tolerate her sci-fi and

that that's always that's worked for us for thirty plus years. So

Uh we'll keep sticking with that. But yeah, again.

What can I say? What else can I say about this movie? Absolutely love it. So let me just shut up and say back to you, Mike, or or Suzanne, whoever's hosting this.

That was habit.

Exactly.

Exactly. Yeah, sorry.

All right, Mike.

Yeah, when you uh when you said Arnold and Basic Instinct, the first thing I thought was, What are you gonna do? Arrest me for smoking? But uh

As he pops on his hips.

Yeah.

And I'm I'm I'm sorry, but wasn't the bunny fatal attraction?

Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't want to say anything'cause we were already going line.

Oh shit, you're right. Yeah. You're right. See another movie I've never seen. I mix up two movies I've never seen.

Whoa, wait, no, they're

I don't remember it.

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Fatal fatal recall there.

Yeah, yeah, fatal basic instinct recall.

Taylor Instinct.

Basic attraction.

Yeah.

We just wrote like seven erotic thrillers here.

I love it.

Asylum if you're listening.

Yeah.

Ha ha ha.

So uh yeah, my thoughts on total recall. I mean I

Echo everything that's been said. It it's hard to say anything new about this. I think it

It's an intersection of two people in their prime, Arnold and Paul Verhoeven. Like Arnold Arnold's run in like The eighties and then Verhoeven's run.

Like it's like you're right in the middle of

Two people that just can't miss. So when they team up, it's like

Yeah.

What else were we expecting but a badass action movie with sci fi elements? I I love the fact that

Factory.

There's kind of two prevailing theories of What's going on or what's the right thing?

What was

was going on through the the uh duration of the movie and either one kinda works so I'm kinda interested to see where we all fall on that weekend.

probably bring that up maybe at the end to like conclude our total recall of thoughts, but

Another the the another cast that's just stacked I mean Sharon Stone was already mentioned. It's it's funny because like I

I don't know if it's because basic instinct was such a big imprint in her career that a lot of people don't even think of Sharon Stone when they think of Total Recall. But yeah, I think.

but yeah I think that was it

Right where I

Barely say anything after, but that's fine. Okay, so Michael Ironside.

A great I I love how he's like The number two but really.

with the aspirations to be number one.

And he's kind of like He's a...

part of the big plan with Kohagan, but he still kind of wants to do his own thing. And that's always like your best kind of number two henchman. It's like they really want to be the main guy. So they will take direction and they'll take orders to a certain extent. But

He kinda goes semi rogue at certain points in the movie, so that's

Yeah.

That's cool.

I love um Roy Broxworth, the guy they the doctor they send in to try to like Trick him to pull Oh, I'm pulling you out.

Pulling you out.

This is just a recall dream and he gets super aggressive and then he takes a bullet to the head that That's such a great scene.

But yeah, I I love the story. I I feel like Sometimes it's difficult to pull off big concepts.

Like if you're gonna make a big what what people would call as like a big dumb action movie, or in this case an action sci-fi movie, sometimes it's safe just to go.

Easy concept, but I feel like this one has like

Pretty cool bigger ideas, and they and they pull it off. And that's to me something Verhoven is like really good at is these big.

Concepts and

Yeah.

Deep ideas, these layered

These layered subtext and he he always pulls it off so great. And that's what makes these movies memorable. That's why we're still talking about

Not just this, but a lot of stuff from his filmography, like all these years later. That's why a lot of these remakes

Yeah.

fail, even when they're not terrible, like as as just kind of straight dumb action movies. They just They don't stand the test of time like Verhoven.

And and just this era in general.

Yeah.

So I I mean I guess I'll keep it brief just because like it's it's one of those classic movies, at least for our generation. Like there's not a whole lot new to say about it. But yeah, I love Total Recall. I I have the 4K.

I'd throw it on.

You know, this is I almost consider this like a comfort movie, like when I don't know what to watch and

Everything you look at, you're kind of not in the mood for. It's stuff like this, like the first predator. It's like you just can't go wrong. You know you're gonna be entertained no matter how many times you've seen her before.

So yeah, total recall is a total winner.

For me. So I'll leave it.

I'll leave it at that

No, I s I saw this in the theater a couple of times when it came out.

And the one thing I love about it Is the house seamless?

Seamless.

The effects are I mean they

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It it still to this day holds up back.

it still looks really gauze.

I still enjoy

watching. I mean, I remember when I first saw it, I was just amazed.

how they used all of the computer aided grafics.

It

really was enough to be able to suspend disbelief.

The story, yeah. I went I was trying to find the story. I know I have it somewhere.

And I think I spent more time looking for the damn book than I did actually Going, Oh shit.

I need to watch the movie!

But I've always been a big fan of Philip K. Dick anyway.

But you know, a few more thoughts.

Michael Ironside's sidekick, Michael Champion.

This guy, he did a lot of TV, he did a few movies.

But this guy should have done a whole lot more henching.

'Cause he is just a great henchman. He's just a little Sarcastic, mean little bastard.

Start.

Love him for it.

you know, always love Ronnie Cox. Ronnie Cox always has that Swagger to it.

And yeah, the Plot uh For Mars, yeah, convoluted as hell, but I mean, are we actually really watching this for plot?

No, we are watching this for to some of the greatest actors, especially Like I said, every we've all discussed Schwarzenegger.

And this was prime.

Yeah.

Arnold was just a biggest box office draw in the world, but he always brought charisma to.

And that charisma just carries.

So I'm gonna keep this incredibly brief since everybody's Pretty much covered.

You know, all of the fine points and broad strokes.

It's a great movie. If you haven't seen this movie.

Get out from under your rock.

This is crazy.

Prime.

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First Ed two oh nine kill were the most violent things I saw on film up to that point.

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You kinda cut out on that one, so we didn't quite get all of that.

Yeah.

I was going to say the...

The escalator kill and the ed two oh nine kill from Robocop.

the most violent things I saw on film up to that point because I was only like Maybe ten, eleven years old.

Yeah.

At the time of seeing it.'Cause I'm sure my dad rented these and my parents were pretty like

liberal with what I watched, um, even at a young age. So we were just watching it on the couch and I was just like, holy shit, like graphic as hell. I had not yet seen like Hong Kong action cinema John Rustav yet.

So this might have been like

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I did wanna state too that while I said that Total Recall is my favorite Verhoven film, it's because of how much I enjoy it. I will one hundred percent admit that I would say Robocop is his best film.

And I think I like the unrated version of Robocop more than Anything total recall.

Yeah.

But

but I still will always be able to go back to total recall and know I'm gonna enjoy it. Sometimes I get a little morose when I'm watching Robocop and I think about how dark that world actually is and I'm not just enjoying the Like cyborg revenge.

No, I'm my favorite Verhoven. I'm sorry, I love

Love.

Starship Troopers, but once again, I'm a Philip K. Deck fan.

And I'm not a huge sci fi person, but For some reason his sci-fi is incredibly easy to read and digest.

Yes.

So what I'm gonna do right now Yes, I

All right, I'm gonna go around. Any final thoughts on our films?

Yeah.

Cort.

This is a great double feature, if nothing more than to see two very similar looking growths that have more personality than the person they were attached to.

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Very nice.

Oh man, I mean, again, what can I say? I watch Basket Case to see old New York.

York.

Watch total recall for

Triple Tits and Arnold Schwarzenegger. And by the way.

Uh I gotta say I'm I'm on this watch I was impressed that uh Arnold said clever girl four years before Jurassic Park stole it from them. So I actually

I actually wrote that down in my notes.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Okay, now I gotta go back and see if I can clock that'cause that's awesome.

Uh when they're in the apartment after she He's looking over his shoulder.

Yeah.

And sees all everybody coming up the stairs, he goes Clever girls.

Okay. Like after she says like you can tie me up, right? She's trying to like seduce him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, Mike. Final thoughts?

Yeah, uh super fun double feature, uh two movies on like the opposite sides of

the filmmaking spectrum. We have a fun low

And lo.

budget dark grimy movie and a huge blockbuster Well,

Just blow your socks off. So Watch'em both.

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All right.

And That is your cinema beef.

And it takes a Brief break and we'll close out the show.

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And now Hey Rocky.

Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat. Again? Nothing up my sleeve.

Wrong hat.

I take a seven and a half. Now here's something we hope you'll really like.

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Alright, cool.

Cort, where can people find you?

What are you doing?

Well, the Cinema Psyops podcast is still gone. We're still available on Legion Podcasts. Uh you can search us out there. Really, really easy to find. Uh or if you're just subscribed to the main Legion feed, we're gonna be coming into your ears.

uh whether you want to or not. And for people that are trying to reach me that have lost me off of the social medias, I'm still available at cinemapsyopsCort at gmail dot com. I'm also available on Signal and if I really, really like you, you might get myself.

phone number.

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All right, got them.

All right. For me, you can hear me most of the same places you can hear Mike on the No More Room in Hell family of podcasts.

That includes our weekly show Fresh Cuts, uh the main show of course, No More Room in Hell.

Hell are

What was intended to be bi-monthly, but kind of ends up being our monthly, you know, review, very similar to what we do here.

And then uh we also have creature comforts, which is our monthly look at our favorite creature features on the latest episode there. We took a look at Deep Rising from 2002. Or wait.

Nineteen ninety eight, I'm sorry, ninety eight.

Yeah, Deep Rising, uh that's episode fifty-two of Creature Comforts.

And then um a show that I hope comes back sooner than later, the Crystal Lake Gift Shop is a Podcasts that Mike and myself do with Miss Lacey Lou from the Cut to the Chase family of podcasts.

where we look at uh an episode by episode retrospective of the original Friday the thirteenth television series, which actually has nothing to do with Crystal Lake, but I still like the title, so we went with it.

And um I'll let Mike talk about the latest episode of the main show and that's pretty much it for me. There was a time when I was on double digit podcasts, but obviously uh

I I'm unable to keep up that kind of cadence anymore for podcasting. So I stick to the No More Room in Hell family, so pretty much that's where you can find me.

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All right, Mike.

All right, the weekly show is Fresh Cuts where we cover brand new horror releases. The latest one we did, I think, was Hungry, the the Killer Hippo movie.

So, uh...

The killer hippo movie that is better than it has any right to be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've been waiting for them to turn that board game into a game.

Does the hippo die?

Is that a spoiler?

I think that's a spoiler. I don't mind.

I don't want the hippo to die.

Watch it.

I'll just I'll just leave

I'll just leave it at that.

Leave it at that. Watch it. Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Nice nice.

The one thing I forgot to ask, I guess we can close it out with with a question to we don't even have to get in depth, we can just give a quick answer and then get the hell out of here.

Total recall. Are you with the theory that It once he went to recall, the rest of the movie was actually a recall dream or That he actually was an agent that double crossed Cohagen and became a hero.

I can go.

That's a loaded question because

I can honestly say that I have always thought that he was having an aneurysm and that he really is dying, and it's always been a horror movie in my head, and that we're only watching.

No, I agree with that. I think he's in a coma.

Any framing.

I've always taken it at face value just because I enjoy what my eyes are watching, so It's one of those things where if a movie kind of retcons itself by saying it was a dream or or if they do the uh what is it, the um N yeah, the Jacob's ladder type ending.

Uh those kind of endings tend to leave me a little sour. So I look at it

F at face value that yes, this all occurred, he's on Mars, Mars now has an atmosphere, and you know, nothing against the other theory by any stretch. There, there's validity to both, honestly. There's arguments for both.

And there's probably more arguments to say that he was just stuck at recall, but Just'cause of the way I like to look at my movies, I like to take it at face value and say, yes, everything in the movie actually happened.

I originally was a

face value person. Now I'm kinda fifty fifty because I watch someone do like a uh uh analysis of it and They made a pretty good argument that like when he's laying out like his

His interests and wants and desires, it almost is like a play by play of like what's to come for the rest of the movie. So I was like, uh Man, now I'm kind of torn between which theories are.

Well wouldn't it make sense? Wouldn't it make sense if that was Hauser that these are actually memories, not desires?

Yeah, but that's the thing that's great about the movie is it leaves it ambiguous enough so that you could have this discussion and you can have your different interpretations. And I don't always lean on the side and I have not always leaned on the side. It's just that I enjoy watching it more pretending like that this is

is actually just a hallucination of a dying mind.

Like it's just more fun that way. Like it's total Jacob's ladder for me in that regard. And I really enjoy those kinds of movies that that have those different layers to them. And it's always better to leave it ambiguous and not give you a definitive answer. I'm looking at you, Inception.

And it doesn't hurt it either way in this case too, which is cool. Oh yeah.

Definitely. Yeah. I think it does add that layer to it. Cause I do I hate it when movies spoon feed everything to you. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me have something, let me have a conversation points.

And yeah, I've always from the first time I saw it

Saw it.

I was always thinking He's a McComart.

But that's just the way.

Thanks.

And

Well, I think is that enough? I have we all said our peace?

Yes.

It's funny that we came fifty fifty on this and you can tell who the real pessimists are on this podcast. It's like Susan.

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Mm-hmm.

Kind of person.

I'm more the glass overflowing person.

Vielen Dank.

All right, everybody, and it's been a pleasure to have Mr. Venom and Mr Syops.

Join us tonight.

And this has been your episode of the Cinema Beef Podcast.

Yeah.

If you've got beef.

We've got the grinder.

Good night, all

Peace.

Adios.

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