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How's the prom?

Yeah, very

Well, we'd be cheating on the sheriff.

Do some dancing?

Why do you care?

Hey who I care.

You go you don't think it I know what you're doing, do you? What? What going to the banker lady's house for

Popcorn, pillow talk, going hunting. What did you do night? Did you go someplace nice for dinner?

Did you?

Have a few drinks.

You don't think I'd like to get out some night have a nice meal? Spend one night not thinking about the girls. You know what I did tonight? I'll tell you what I did. I spent it right here trying to figure out if Slipstitchin' or bastin' is the best way to put on a sparkly heart because you knew what

What?

I don't know how George's gonna be here tomorrow.

Masson's not gotten all the way through her song. Numbers are all over the place. Nobody can keep the beat.

And I'm scared to death that Jency is gonna drop her baton and fry like one of them Buddhist monks. They're I thought this was a partnership.

You know what I don't see?

I don't see no keys to the bank. Fine, Wayne, let's

Yeah.

You come pretending.

Okay.

Kiss early in the relationship with So now it's too happy.

Where Every time we start to have a nice talk, you gotta go.

You know what? Maybe I'll just go do the bank myself.

Okay, Wayne.

You go do the bang.

First I gotta make little polka dotted flowers for the girls hat.

Right.

Lord. For bringing us this general.

Just give me all the bacon and eggs you have. Wait, wait. I worry what you just heard was give me a lot of bacon and eggs. What I said was give me all the bacon and eggs you have.

Hello folks, welcome to the Cinema Beef Podcast. I am one of your hosts, Gary Hill, and uh with me, uh, as usual, is uh Mr. Mike Merriman. How you doing, sir?

What's up? I'm here to try to avoid melting.

Outside.

It's bad you're telling me a hundred and three degrees in in the California area. That's uh that's rough.

Yeah, usually we're not hitting those temps until July, but I think last year we had one of the more mild summers, I can recall.

So

Of course it's coming back with a vengeance.

Well my my my buddy DJ Golden Brown, I was talking to him today and he said that, you know, once there's plenty of cerveases for the for the World Cup, he's okay. He don't care how this g gets out there, see? It's uh

Yeah, it's not a bad plan.

Yes indeed. Uh uh, with me he usually if she's here right now is Lady Suzanne. How you doing?

Oh, doing well. Hoping the storm's passed and I don't have to bail out my basement.

Yeah, that sucks. But your cubby's one, so there's that, you know.

Oh I know, and uh that was when we were starting to get the earlier p power outages with the sixty mile an hour winds.

Yay.

Yay!

And also with us tonight and uh certainly not least of course, um you know'em, you've heard'em. If you haven't, what are you doing with your life? Uh, my friend from the Detroit area, um, Mr Michael White, how you doing, sir?

I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me back, Air.

Oh man, you're always welcome. Uh thanks for coming back, man. You just you put up with me all the time. I love it, man.

Yeah. Oh my gosh.

But yeah, uh same way we started my show. I'll I'll ask you our our guest, Mr. Mike White, what you been watching lately.

Uh well, other than stuff for the uh the the podcast

plural, I should say, that I do. Um yeah, well I just got back from the uh Nitrate Picture Show film festival out in uh Rochester, New York, where it's all stuff shown on nitrate

uh stock and yeah it's uh spectacular stuff. It just looks absolutely gorgeous. Um so yeah I think I saw I think I saw ten movies while I was out there over a long weekend.

Um, my favorite of all of those was probably 1939's Midnight.

which stars um Claudette Colbert, Donna Michi, John Barrymore, and uh Mary Astor. And it was hilarious. So seeing that in a packed theater with 500 people, Just there for the the experience and seeing this show all movie fans, it was a glorious, glorious time.

Sorry.

Nice.

Sorry. I no problem. I can keep vamping if you want, but

Go for it, man.

Ha ha ha.

Also saw some other good things out there including uh

What was the very first one that they showed was a Cecil B de Mill comedy, which I never really realized that he'd done comedies and it was called Why Change Your Wife? And it was with uh Gloria Swanson.

And basically the uh the through line is bitches be crazy. So that was it it didn't say that on the title cards, but that was pretty much what it was. Um but yeah, it was it was fantastic to see that. Very, very funny.

Um, and then they ended the festival with their what they call the blind date with nitrate where they won't even tell you what the movie is before the well, they won't tell you at all. The curtain opens and then you get to see what it is.

And they played Cocteau's Orpheus. So seeing that on the big screen was a real treat. Uh of all the Cocteaux I've seen so far, I'd never seen that on the big screen. And actually I'd never seen it at all.

And being such a David Lynch fan, it was so nice to see that and see

kind of where Lynch got some of his uh tropes from. So there were a couple things where I was like, oh, okay. Like there's these gloves that you have to put on in order to go to the underworld. And it kind of reminded me of the kid with the green glove and Twin Peaks The Return. I was like

Okay, yeah, I can see some of this. So that it was again very, very fun to see.

In effort to make myself more cultured, I I I recently got a Criterion channel subscription, so I write stuff like this down for s just stuff to watch'cause I'm I'm my the shameless is really long.

So

turn myself on the new things, you know, which is great. Oh, um I have a question. What what is what is this nitrate business? Wha what is what is the process for this or

You mean what is nitrate itself?

Yeah, what it what it what do you what do they what it makes these movies special?

Oh, so nitrate stock, it's um you're probably most familiar with it from the film Inglorious Bastards. I always go back to that because that's the most recent one to have nitrate in it. It is incredibly flammable.

And that's how, um, what was her name? Loanna Lowenstein. I can't remember the the main female character in that, the only female character in that.

blows up that theater with um uh Hitler inside, she uses nitrate uh film to explode the theater.

So this was super dangerous, very subta susceptible to burning. And when a nitrate fire starts, it cannot be put out with anything. Not baking soda, definitely not water. Nothing works on it. And if you remember

Back in the old days before they had light bulbs that could emit proper light to show a film, they would use burning tungsten rods. Um, so literal rods of tungsten that were just there.

lit up super uh bright because of the the the heat they were throwing off. So you get that pretty much open flame meets ex uh flammable explosive material.

Uh there were some bad things that used to happen in the day. But um they're not using tungsten anymore. They are using light bulbs, but these prints are all

You know, the the like I said, the the why change your wife was from nineteen twenty six. This is the original print from nineteen twenty six. So you're seeing these things and I have to say that the image quality of nitrate.

It's so much better than safety film. The a few years ago they showed us uh the third man and they showed us

The whole movie on nitrate, which was just incredible, especially the sewer chase. I mean, everything looked wonderful. And then they showed us a scene on safety film, which is what we would normally see things on back when they used film before digital.

And it was like the difference between sitting across from someone and seeing them in real life or looking across at a photograph of them. The safety film is just so flat and the nitrate is just such a rich image.

It's a real miracle those those prints still exist actually.

Oh, yeah. This is definitely a festival of conservation and preservation and just kind of spreading the word. So they get prints in from all over.

Of the world.

Uh, they usually have uh at least one Japanese movie. There was no Japanese movie this time, but they did have prints imported from I think it was Portugal was the this was the first time we had seen things from the Portuguese um

uh center and um it was a film called a la arriba. It was about these fishermen from the north of Portugal. It was kind of like um uh

like a docudrama, like a it felt very Robert Flarty kind of the stuff. So it was yeah. It so you're also seeing stuff that is just not your typical run in the mill thing. They're not showing like, you know, the the popular movies. They you usually will pro

program something popular for like the Sunday morning. So this year it was The Adventures of Tom Sawyer from 1938. So that was nice to see. And again, looks really good. James Wong Hao was the DP on it.

and it

the he was able to bring a real it was almost like a painterly quality to it. It was technicolor, but it was not that garish technicolor. It was much more muted, much more pastel. It was really beautiful.

Cool. Yeah, this is all it's all fascinating. I love it. Oh man. Um next up the other mic, Mr. Mike Maryman. Would you what'd you watch, man?

All right, so

Uh

I'll start with a television show, um, because I don't watch uh a lot of shows anymore, at least not like scripted long series TV shows, but I did start watching Widows Bay, I think after I had been

out for a couple weeks, so I played a little catch-up. It's on Apple TV. And man, I've really been digging it. It's it's just about at the end of the season. I think there was the latest episode yesterday in the finale's next week.

And uh it's kind of like a s the setup kind of reminds me of uh John Carpenter's The Fog. There's like an island with some some lore on it, uh some type of curse.

and you're slowly figuring out what's going on or what the rules of it are, why and all that kind of stuff. And last week's episode, episode eight, did a really good homage to like eighty slashers, kinda like Michael Myers

crossed with Jason specifically. Um, it was really well done. A lot better than like a lot of the remakes and reboots and reimaginings and whatever else they call'em these days did.

Um and uh actually about an hour ago or two hours ago I just learned that it got renewed for a second season. So that's good news for any fans watching that. So that was Widows Bay.

Let's see, what else do I have? I the I I recorded twice in a week, so I gotta make sure I don't go too far back to stuff I talked about last episode. Um

I watched Rituals. This is not a first time watch, but this is from 1977. It's it's kind of caught up in like the post deliverance.

uh survivalist wilderness.

Good movie. I s I bought the second somebody got a print together, you could still see the fire damage, but still a fantastic movie.

Oh yeah. And even see with rituals how it's kind of actually morphing into like slasher or like prototype for early

slashers, um, the way they kind of craft the villains in it. And there's even some suggestion I I think they were like saying that it could be like some medical malpractice revenge stuff.

going on'cause of what we get towards the end when they find their shack or their cabin or whatever it was. But

Not a first time watch. I've seen it like once or twice through the years. Um but working from home a lot of times I will look for stuff to throw on that I might have seen once or twice that way.

it can kind of just be on while I'm working. Um this next one from nineteen eighty four, Silent Madness. This is also a slasher movie. Um An escaped patient from a mental hospital.

Runs amuck in town. I mean, if you haven't heard that set up from a slasher movie before, you're probably not much of a slasher watcher. But the interesting thing about this one is it was originally filmed in 3D. So as I'm watching it, it's like

And you see like some of the kills, it's so obvious that it's meant to be watched in three D'cause it just kinda looks goofy in the two D version. Kinda similar to Friday the thirteenth at the beginning when

You're seeing like stuff poked at the camera or like the yo yo scene that for no reason it's like a long shot of him with his yo yo and it's like, what's the purpose of this? Well, in three D it probably made

a lot more sense. But it was a it was a pretty fun slasher. Nothing groundbreaking. From what I read in eighty four, this w I guess this was like the start of like a next wave'cause the original

crop of them it started to like slow down a little bit. Because 84 was also Nightmare on Almond Street. So yeah, it looks like another a wave of them was starting. Uh the next one Uh this was A sci fi movie.

From I I want to say it was released this year called Sync, and this was about um some new technology in like the near horizon that uh lets you form like a mental sink with someone in order to like form better bonds and friendships.

Uh this was an interesting movie, uh like a lower budget independent movie that I thought was like pretty good, pretty high concept. I would I would probably

throw it in with like uh maybe a mid tier Black Mirror episode. Like it it wa it didn't blow me away, but because of the concept I I did

what uh it had to say. Um and then I guess I'll finish it off with one I just watched before recording today, and that is the black exploitation film Hell Up in Harlem.

This was yeah, this was super fun and like with black exploitation it's like they

If for people not familiar, they could be pigeonholed and there's all sorts of different kinds, all different styles. This one is like your basic shoot'em up setup. It's like you got

the mafia, you've got uh revenge, and you've got bullets flying and lots of people dying. And I really got a kick out like at the end

Um our main character goes to uh take out some of the remaining members and he's I believe it's the streets of New Yeah, obviously Harlem. So it's in New York but

uh he takes out guys like in the middle of eating hot dogs from a hot dog stand so the cat just shoots to them with hot like the hot dog and the hot dog bun in their mouth as they're dead on the ground. But

Uh super fun movie. Um, I liked it a lot, very entertaining and you know, kind of like easy comfort stuff, nothing too intricate in the plot, just a very basic revenge uh setup, so

If you're into that, check out Hell Up in Harlem. It's currently streaming on Prime, so I'll leave it at those ones.

Oh god, let's see. I've I've pretty much just finished out a couple of series. They finished finally finished Sinners with Bill Pullman.

really just enjoy I I didn't really think much of Bill Pullman when he was younger. But as an older actor, he's really got just a

thing unto himself. So that was a pretty damn enjoyable. And I watched The Burrows. He was also in the Burrows. So if you get a chance, that one's on Netflix.

It's a great cast. It's from the the Duffer brothers for the producers, but

It set in a retirement home with Alfred Nolina, Gina Davis, a a a lot of actors that you would recognize. It's a great little miniseries if you're ever just down

And the other night I hadn't watched Aris Texas again. And it's just one of those movies. It's it's bleak. Not bleak, bleak.

It it really toys with your emotions the whole time. And I appreciate it. It actually made me cry a little bit, which I don't watch movies that make me cry. That's, you know, my my rule.

But that watching the Cubs lose a lot once a day, which was nice.

All right, my turn. Uh nothing here for s for sea well, I take that back. I re watch Blo I rewatched Blood Simple, um, second time ever and

Um Cohen Brothers debut and it's a great debut. And uh I always forget that John Getz shows up and things that he's not a dick. But he he wasn't really a dick in this movie. He was kinda like, you know Making things happen for Francis McDerm Francis McDermott and I'm fine with that and

I just love these and a and a and then the wall shot rolls where you feel the feel the slime coming up the screen. That's how stare it is.

Uh but yeah, it's a great rewa rewatch. I watched it on the Criterion channel.

Um what I didn't mention, we w we're gonna get to this eventually. I love this stupid fucking movie about a videotape. Um

Remote Jeff Lieberman's remote control was on Criterion Channel too. He had a spotlight on VHS or something on there and If you haven't seen before it's got Kevin d Kevin Dillon in it and a very cute Deborah Goodrich and a very cute Jennifer Tilly in it and basically it's about a videotape that is

that makes the watchers want to kill the people that that they're in the room with and um it's before the ring so I can't say it's first of its kind ever but I'll say that the the pre pre um

It presupposed the ring. But it does it a lot more eighties style and silly. I mean the wardrobes in this film are insane and um one day I would love to do it'cause it's just it's just that that fun

eighties vibe horror film that I could show to people and they either really like it or not like it. I I uh

I put it there with with shopping mall where I'll show I can turn that off for people and they can you know see how they feel. Well you were still friends after they watched shopping mall, put it that way, you know. Um

I saw it'cause I was going to um The Masters of the Universe, the the new one. Uh

That's that's a movie that exists and it br and I get people why they love it so much. It brings a lot of your childhood

cartoon to life, you know, on the screen. It's all there and in living color doing stuff.

But when you got comedy that doesn't work in the film.

And they they just keep trying the same comedy over and over again to see, Hey G do you get the joke that this guy's called pista because he he fisted somebody uh somewhere? Yeah, they it's the same joke three times I think in this movie.

Uh it's it's it's it gets really silly and not not not in a good way.

I I didn't see the new one but my friend did and he said like Through the first forty five minutes he was like worried that the movie's gonna be terrible, but it kinda rebounded in the like last hour or so.

Well yeah, once you start doing stuff, you know,'cause you got uh big highlight for me, you know, spoilers, um Ke Man fights the beast man uh on a on a freeway off ramp. I really dug that quite a bit.

There's lots of little throwbacks on.

Oh no, I was gonna say I almost threw on the uh Dolph Lungern one today before I ended up throwing on uh Hell Up in Harlow.

It's still better. And I don't care if people say that this isn't it's not as good as the as the new one or something. I haven't heard people say that yet, but I'm waiting for them to say that.

And I'll ask him to say, explain to me why that's true.

Because Dolph Lungrin is hot. Okay? That's why.

Well th there's that for you, but you know, there's there's real peril in that movie. There's n there's like nothing here. Even when things are going bad, they're making stupid jokes and this is

This is like my problem with the film. It's not the casting. I love Beadress Elba. I I I love e even ev even Jared Leto's okay. I don't think he's great in this movie, you know?

I just got a Tron Aries where I said, You know what? You really liked them in Tron Aries,'cause they they made you like'em and that's fine.

Hemoskeletor is is not is not the best.

But you know, the the side characters are are are where it's at and basically the best iteration of this s story is to watch the uh

There was a cartoon network Cartoon Network series in the early two thousands. I'd say look for that if you really want to flesh out these characters and enjoy yourself. And um

Well I'm just curious, did Jared Leto play like She Raw?

No, he played a a a voice, I think, or or a synthesized voice of himself,'cause he it was all CG, the skull face. Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Allison Bree as evil end wasn't so bad either, but I I have a thing for Allison Bree so'cause Gary's got a type. I I can't understand these things, but uh

Mm-hmm.

Last thing I watched the new Cape Fear thing on Apple T V and this is fine. It goes

It goes to some places. It was to some gory places, which is which is great. If you love if you love Javier Bardem, you know, which I do, I'm here for it.

Well you got Patrick Wilson and Amy Adams like laying there like a dead fish, like making bad southern accents and stuff. I just I mean it goes in and out the southern accents and

They're better actors than this. To be doing this and

But Javier is real good though, and I think he got pretty jacked for this role. So when he starts like getting brutal with with things and in some of these in it's only two episodes out now, I think right now. So

There's a prison scene where he gets pretty brutal and I I recommend this to any gore hound in the world because uh he gets attacked and shit happens, I'll put it that way. It uh

Go uh check that out if you want to watch that. But um yeah, your your lead actors are not very good. And I'm gonna keep watching for Javier though,'cause I'm I'm having a good time with him.

Yeah.

I watched the first two episodes of the Cape Fear show and Do you do you find that the story is a little bit busy?'Cause like

Well they gotta they gotta stretch it out for TV, you know, which is you know, they're trying.

Yeah. Yeah, and I I I understand like as I'm watching it, like I understand

You don't want I mean, I I'm assuming they didn't wanna just do a straight like remake where every story element's the same. So I get it, but it's like when they start going into like

backstories and like plots and I'm just like you don't really need to overcomplicate this story. Like it's it's it's a pretty simple e like either original and even Scorsese when he

Did the remake, he they kept it pretty easy and simple. So maybe it's the fact that they're stretching it into like a TV series that they felt the need to like add different Combining layers to it.

I mean even C C H Pounder who's an actress I'll I'll enjoy anything. I I

People say Robocop three sucks and I'll say, Well look at all the good character actors. So yeah, that's your your your your conversation is null and void in my opinion, but you know, you like what you like.

You mean she she brought some heat to that. Like here she's like doing nothing and I don't like that in my C C H Founder. I don't I don't like that.

I'll leave my watch to that. I I watch other things too, but it it's it is what it is. Um but today, tonight.

For uh episode one of this actually. We're gonna do two of these this month. We celebrate uh Master Thusby and all around usually a good guy, Mr Steve Steves on and I'm I'm looking forward to these.

And uh first up we're doing happy Texas.

And out of sight in a series I call Steve Zahn needs better friends because he does need better friends. He gets really shitty friends in these movies. And you know, he deserves better in my opinion. But uh

Uh first up we'll do Happy Texas. Um and we will do that right after this trailer.

Coast is clear.

Let's do it.

Small time cons on the lamb or running.

Very unfortunate.

Getaway.

Somebody stole our dump.

But no one is looking for a pageant-producing couple in happy

Texas

You must be the pageant people.

I'm Steven.

I'm the other one, David.

Maybe.

Now to hold on to their freedom.

Can we do the bang now?

Can't rob a bank if we're hosting a beauty pageant, can you?

These guys.

We'll do just about anything.

Would you like to try to follow what it did?

And in the process they discovered.

No thanks.

Find happiness in the strangest places.

Thank you guys.

Slap it.

Happy Texas from nineteen ninety nine, uh the year of my graduation. So there's that, you know.

Um three prisoners escape, two end up in Happy Texas, where they are they're mistaken for a gay couple expected there to help a small help with the smaller girls beauty pat beauty pageant.

As the two are paid a thousand dollars they decide to stay until the heat is gone. It's a lot of plot it's a lot of plot synopsis right there, but yeah. It's that it's not a great one.

But um we have some some principal cast members here. Uh Jeffrey Northam, which I know from from nothing, but he looks so familiar, um as Harry.

Uh Steve's on of course has Wayne. Uh the great William H. Macy who was just in Chicago signing alcohol or something. I didn't know I w I would Yeah, as Chappie the sheriff.

Uh Allie Walker who I know from Universal Soldier and not much else uh as Joe.

I saw that in the theater.

Yeah.

Uh.

I I love that this speaking of dolls, I love that goddamn movie. Um Some you talked to Mike before, uh the great Eliana Douglas as Mrs. Schaefer.

The great MC Ganey as Bob Maslow. It's great everybody. Great great Ron Perlman as another sheriff, uh Nell Holber.

Uh great comedian. I I've I've forgotten about this woman, Mo Gaffney, as says Mrs. Bromley.

You watch these late nineties films, you remember these things and they just pop up. You know. And uh well that's what I'll measure this Paul Dooley, uh as as the judge. Always awesome, Paul Dooley. Um

Yeah.

I I will kick it to um Suzanne first, uh happy Texas. Uh what'd you think, girl?

I have to admit it's just it's just really enjoyable.

All right, that sums it up.

Yeah, there you go.

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You hear the truth? We're losing you a lot, girl.

Thank you.

Release.

Actually if I'm having issues it's you know what, I think I'm just gonna back out. No.

No, no, I'm just saying we're losing a lot, that's all.

I know, I'm I'm don't know. It could be the storm.

Everything's been a

Weather's bad, I know.

So in that case, you know, just scrap me from this and I'm just gonna back out.

Some of the others are good.

Yeah you're good, yeah.

Yeah, of course now, yeah.

Yeah.

If you if you wanna try it again while while while the getting's good, good go ahead. Two and a one.

Okay, yeah. Going really super fast. Enjoyable movie. Great character actors. Steve Zahn is the good friend in this movie.

And yeah, great. It is it's fun too. C Prison Escape and

Yep, they portray a gay couple and they pull it off well. And what I really remember Allie Walker from I know she was on a soap at one point.

Yeah.

Uh I can't I can't remember if it was all my children. I really can't remember, but I remember my friend was addicted to this show called Profiler.

Oh yeah, that was a great show.

It it was, but we couldn't go anywhere until after she watched it on Saturday night.