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Hello folks. Welcome to C podcast. I'm one of your host, Gary Hill. With you tonight are two two fine gentlemen from the the state of California. So it's uh

West Coast beats Midwest show and I'm fine with that. Uh one of which is Mike Merriman. How you doing, sir?

What is up? I am ready to seek the green tonight on the Cinema beef.

How you doing?

How you doing, Mike?

Oh, that was still for me. Um I wasn't sure when you kicked it to Venom.

Come on, must be all that green, man. Come on now, you know.

Oh man, it's it's been a week just uh I'm glad that it's about to be Friday, everything's winding down, um getting ready for the weekend. And of course I'm looking at all the movies coming out and it's like a kind of a

Uh le the lower tier release week. Not a whole lot coming out that I wanna see, unfortunately.

So I'll probably dig into like a collection of movies that I've bought that are sitting on the table that I haven't had a ton of time to watch. Plus I got movies to watch for some other shows that I'll probably mention at the end. So uh there you go.

That never running stack of movies that you should be watching but you just like turn on something else instead. It just uh

Yeah, man,'cause it's like I get to the point in the night where it's like the downtime. I finally got some free time and I'm like If I put on like one of these 4Ks that, you know, you really want to watch in the maximum like pristine conditions, you want to be able to crank the s surround sound.

And then you're like, oh man, I'm so tired. Am I gonna make it through? So you end up just like finding something streaming because you know it's no big deal if you fall asleep to it.

True. This is true.

Uh and also this one in the great city of California. Mr Venom, how you doing sir?

Greetings and salutations, beefers. Yeah. I am doing very well and I'm looking forward to talking about one of my favorite movies of all time.

And then another movie that I've actually grown to love that I was a little indifferent to the first time I saw it, but over the years it's kind of warmed up on me. So uh I'll have some stories about both. How you doing, Gary?

Oh I'm living man. I'm here. Uh glad to be recording again. Um had some delays but we we we f we fill on the gaps people, which is uh the great thing about the great world of podcasting and I uh

I enjoy I enjoy what I do. Um but uh

Here on a Thursday night, uh with you gentlemen, I will ask um w our panels, we don't we don't talk to that much and hopefully talk to'em more than'em. Uh what you've been watching lately, man.

What have I been watching? Oh, you know what? I just went to the theater yesterday to see a brand new movie that just came out.

Um probably lands more towards psychological thriller than horror, which is my usual fair. But um yeah, I watched Exit 8 last night uh out of Japan. Uh a very, very

uh cerebral almost Love Craftian. I I might be overstepping my bounds a little bit saying Love Craftian, but it it kind of gave me Love Craftian vibes just because of the unexplained nature of everything that's going on.

It's uh basically the story of a man who exits a subway train and then finds himself lost in a almost endless loop of hallways throughout this underground train station.

And you know, he along with other people that are trapped in there have to figure out how to get out and

It's it's a really good movie. It's a little slow, like the pacing is a little slow. It's a little repetitive, especially at first.

Uh just cause our, you know, our main protagonist is trying to kind of figure out what exactly is going on, what the rules are, things like that.

So, you know, it's a the first act is a little slow, but once you get the general gist of what's going on, and as more characters are introduced.

It actually starts to amp the mystery aspect of it a little bit. And yeah, I ended up really enjoying it uh by the end. I can't say that I one hundred percent understand everything that happened in the film, but

Uh for for what I understood and for my own interpretations of what happened, I actually really enjoy it. Uh I I highly recommend it. It's in theaters right now. I would imagine it'll be uh available in VOD in the coming week.

That's exit eight.

I I found most Japanese films there's always gonna be something culturally that I don't understand, you know, within it. Yeah, I probably would never understand. So I'm used to like being slightly confused while watching like Asian cinema but

This one does sound I hate to use the the same the same adjective, but it does sound very Japanese. In a sense of you know, the feeling and the theme. But I would like to watch this. If you it sounds kinda like Cube a little bit in a way.

It it's got elements of Kubrick, um definitely, you know, has like flavors of of cube in there. Also creep, if you remember that, um UK creep, not the American one with Mark Dupless.

Yeah, the UK one in the subway with the creature that's down there. Not to say that there that this is a creature feature. It just, you know, people lost in the subway kind of gave me that same vibe.

Yeah, I I uh I saw it too and I I I got a kick out of it. Um I actually have the game that it was based on because uh a f a couple of months ago they put it on

the PlayStation Plus for free. And uh the I I intended to play the game first and I just never got around to it. And after seeing the movie I liked it well enough that I'm like, nah, now I want to go back and play the game. And there also is a sequel

To the game. The movie kind of leaves off, like from what I've heard from people who have done both the game and the movie, the movie is.

A very like faithful adaption of the game. And it actually kind of leaves off where the sequel of the game.

uh also starts. So like I don't know if this movie's gonna perform well enough for them to even wanna do a sequel, but if they did, it's almost like

so accurate as to where it is. So that's interesting'cause um I I I did I I did like the setup. It's definitely like that luminary horror like uh a fixed setting. Um

And it does f like once you know it's based on a game, it does feel very game like'cause you could imagine like controlling a player doing what this main character has to do. And um I I'm kind of interested in the game if the game covers kind of like the same

uh theme and subtext'cause I d the movie definitely

had that going on with like, you know, confronting the possibility of fatherhood, possibly trying to run from it and then embracing it at the end. And I have no idea if there's actually like story like that in the game or if the game's just more innocuous, but I'm I'm interested to go find out.

I'm probably gonna go ahead and check the uh Xbox Network uh since I'm I'm more of an Xbox or I do have a PlayStation 5, but most of my online activities are on the Xbox. I'll see if Game Pass has exit eight, because I am also interested in playing it now.

Yeah, and I heard there's multiple endings too.

Nice.

I would imagine as a gamer you're probably gonna get frustrated at the same things that the characters in the movie were frustrated with, so

Yeah. Actually actually correction, not multiple endings, multiple

Anomalies. So like when you play through it, yeah, different options of like what you're looking for is

Gotcha. Now that sounds interesting. I'm looking forward to it. The game, of course.

Oh man, what else have I been watching? I've been trying to catch up with a lot of the foreign stuff that I've been missing on Netflix lately just because it it seems like we've had

uh a horror film in the theaters almost every other week since twenty twenty six started. So I've actually kind of behind on my VOD. So I actually tried to catch up with some stuff. Uh I watched a movie called Cromolio.

uh which I believe is from Indonesia. It's currently on Netflix. It's actually from last year. It's from twenty twenty five. But uh a really interesting ghost story, just a very basic, you know, Asian supernatural.

um, you know, revenge story, you know, uh nothing ultra original, but what's in it worked for me really well. I like the spirits. I like the backstory of the, you know, the quote unquote black magic practitioner in the movie.

Uh and then the ending was also very satisfying. So yeah, I had a good time with that one. That one's called Cromolio, K-R-O-M-O-L-E O.

It's currently on Netflix, so I would recommend it. It's short too. I think it's like an hour and 20 or 25 minutes. It's a quick one.

Michael, what you watching, man?

Mike is on mute.

Maybe no.

Yeah. I'm trying to look through my list'cause I got a ton to choose from, but I'll go with kind of like the most maybe interesting, goofy

But also a well done movie um from nineteen ninety-six. It's called And this is my a attempt at a pronunciation, Poppy Goodya, which is the Bollywood s uh quote unquote remake slash ripoff of Child's Play.

And uh the fact that it's two hours already tells you, yeah, there's dance numbers, but

They they go so elaborate and over the top of the dance numbers is actually kind of fun because these types of movies uh a lot of times it's hard to sell people on them because the the Bollywood stuff, the dancing, it it can take you out of a movie because It's definitely like cultural specific.

Um, but I found them kind of fun and wacky. And the the doll they use is like such like a non-scary looking doll. It's it's almost hilarious. But they actually put together some

Good sequences. Now obviously the budget and the resources they have into like doing the horror stuff.

It's it's not as good, you know, we're not talking like these full on animatronic teams. So like it's a little more goofy when they do like the shots of like Chucky's Sh well and this he's not called Chucky, but his little shoes walking across and it's it's funny the way they replicate

certain scenes so precisely where it's like, Were you guys licensed to do this or is this just uh we're just gonna do it anyway? Um but yeah, th uh there's like a whole series of Bollywood horror remakes uh that

for what they are in their own kind of like universe and world, they're they're actually not a bad time and they're kind of fun and they actually put together the horror sequences pretty cool. It's just like the rest of the movie

just kind of feels out of place if you know trying to sell it to like horror fans as a horror movie. But hey, it's free in HD on YouTube, so

Definitely like for something in the background. And it had the English subs are like good and And uh so I would say like if you're if you're looking for something like kind of thrown on the background, at least give a chance to because the opening

The opening gets you right into like the actual opening of child's play with the

uh robbery or the the cr the the crime, the doll possession and all that. So right off the bat you can see what they're doing. So I I say it's worth giving a shot to. And that's Papa Goodya.

Yeah.

You know, to be fair, you know, if you look at the hi the hi the history of child's play, they didn't steal the design of the doll straight from the My Buddy and they they they admitted this. So, you know, it's not like hey

True.

We saw the My Buddy commercial and creep people out. So you know we m we made a doll movie about it, you know.

Didn't they uh I thought originally I read a story that they actually reached out to try to do like a Cross promotion and my buddy was like, that it's not it's not happening'cause like we're not scaring our client basically.

It was my buddy and if they didn't need a girl version, I think girl version was kid's sister, I think it was. It's been a long time, but yeah.

I still remember the jingle in the commercials.

Yes, indeed. Anything else, Mike?

Uh let's see what else. Um I I saw well, I don't really want to talk about Hokum because I know we're gonna be doing a fresh cuts on it, but I did catch it at an early screening for mystery movie night.

Um I okay, so I bought the the 4K of Circus of Horrors from 1960 and For me, uh carnivals, circuses, uh, traveling fairs, all that kind of stuff, i it's one of my favorite settings for horror because especially the ones that really implement

the like circus axe into the movie, even when it's like not necessarily

horror, just kind of like the elaborate sets, the color scheme. And this this one was in the Technicolor was it? Yeah, Technicolor. And for whatever reason it is that sixties

Technicolor style, it really looks good on 4K. Like the colors are just vibrant and they pop off the screen and Um, I know like sometimes with older movies, like the four case uh format, it does improve the picture, but it's not like leagues.

better than like a Blu-ray or a DVD just because of like whatever source m uh source film uh they're using but for whatever it is the technicolor always seems to look really good and so this one's basically um uh

You gave you have your criminal that he flees from his city after getting caught. He accidentally hid gets his partner uh murdered and he I think he it's France that he flees to and he goes into a deal to take over a circus and of course uh what goes on behind the curtain is is devious and

people are different acts start turning up murdered and uh

Yeah, it it's just a fun movie. Like I said, I I'm a I'm a fan of all circus carnival horrors. To me it's just such a natural setting because it it's just to me it's naturally odd and just the fact that like a Even in real life, it's like it almost feels like there's that kind of

weird kooky family element to these operations'cause a lot of them are traveling the whole year. So that is like their home and their family, the circus itself. So it's kinda cool to see the dynamics behind the scene. Even

setting. So I definitely recommend Circus of Horrors.

It's uh one of the basics of my favorite sequels, uh Ghoulies Two.

Well all the aspects you're talking about, you know, improve upon the first one, you know, exponentially. So, you know.

Oh man, when I when I was growing up as a kid, I almost disregarded the original Ghoulies because I loved Ghoulies too so much. Uh

It was it was so long ago I discussed about I was on the podcast with Gyllen Roscoe and we did all the Ghoulies films.

And this is a sidetrack of course is the show of course people and I it's one of those series like like uh Silent De N Deadly Night that I love.

Because with every installment they just jump the shark into something else, you know.

Remember the last movie? This film was nothing like that last movie. You know. Same kind of storyline, but you know, nothing like the last movie.

Yeah, exactly. And the first Ghoulies is just it's it's c it's cool sorta, but like I don't know. The second one just feels like a much more complete just Awesome.

No.

Watch this.

Just pretty fun. Just love it. I love it, you know.

Yeah.

I love goals go to college myself, I'm not gonna lie to you.

He's fun. He really is.

Yeah.

And to uh to piggyback on Mike's point about Technicolor and 4K, I 100% agree with Mike. Uh right before we reviewed Peeping Tom on No More Room in Hell, I picked up that 4K and

Wow.

That image is gorgeous. The blood is such a glorious, vibrant, bright red, almost orange.

Uh just uh the colors of the background. Just I mean, it is the absolute best that Peeping Tom's ever looked, and I've seen it many, many times. I love that movie.

As much as I don't like the film that's been documented on my ma many podcasts, uh

Baba's uh blood and black lace. I I I don't like the film's geologic is very boring. But the colors are very beautiful in the film and I would like to see that on a four K maybe one day. Yeah.

Yeah.

I bet it looks fucking pretty, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Anything else, Michael?

Uh I mean I could talk for days with the movies I watch, but I'll leave it at that.

Okay, I'll discuss a few things.

I watched um the documentary on Hulu. It's on Hulu right now streaming, uh Billy Idol Should Be Dead. It's a documentary about him and His career and his, you know, punk rock upbringing to the rock roll star you know today and of course all the drugs that he did and

all the infidelity he had and you know leading to where he is now, which is uh much more healthier, happier, still rocking uh grandfather.

you know, who has children that he didn't know about that that he's close with now, so wanna watch a documentary about, you know, Billy Idol that that's pretty well made. I I I kinda like the

very anime style animax they put in the middle of the thing, inter intercut in. Um not a lot to talk about. Um a lot of folks probably know about him and, you know, all the stuff but

It's very well made. It goes through his whole his whole uh

career as a musician up to today and I'm very complete and uh I love Billy, so I'll watch a documentary about Billy Idol. I watch it um every day. I love it. Um

Uh mostly just TV stuff. I'm sorry.

Oh I was just gonna say I've seen that browsing and I I do wanna watch it. It looks interesting.

Yeah, it's pretty good, it's very decent. Yeah.

You know who I d uh for like music related documentaries, I think HBO Max does a a great job with their music box series. I I've been happy.

E even even when art even when it's for artists that I don't necessarily like listen to a lot of, I I got a super kick out of the Yacht Rock one. And I realized, hey, I actually I actually like Yacht Rock more than I realized. Maybe I just maybe I just wasn't sure.

Yeah.

all the artists and music that encompass what people consider yacht rock. And now I do. So that's why I'm like, okay, maybe I like it more than I thought I did.

Well if you if you look it up, the guys from Toto by themselves

They played on so many other people's music, you know, anything from like Michael Jackson to to beyond. They played on so many different tracks over the years. They they were like such a musicians in the studios.

So I find that very cool. Uh But yeah, I can't deny I can't deny the Yat Rock one and I think I've watched the Bee Gees one probably a dozen times, I'm not gonna lie to you'cause

As much as I I love the disco BGs, I I've come to appreciate the early stuff too, you know, where Robin did most of the singing and you know, I just

I I l I love uh I like the BGs. And they they they I agree, they use some pretty good documentaries. Oh, I gotta finish a bit uh the Billy Joel one

Although the first half uh kinda leaves a bad uh bad taste in your mouth. I was like, Yeah, Billy's got a piece of shit, man. Gotta like you know

Got with his creative partner's wife and said, you know what, this is my wife. Now I'm like, Yeah, you kind of a dick, Billy. You know, I'm just gonna throw it out there. Yeah.

Yeah. I I I I have the the the Kenny G one is sitting on my list and I'm like

I don't know, should I do it? Should I dive into some Kenny G?

Wasn't he like like hardcore rock before he became like the Kenny G you know now or something like that or?

Uh th to be honest, I don't know. I mean w by a time I was like of sound mind to know who he was.

It was, you know, the jazz stuff. So he might have had like a lesser known career before that that I just am unaware of.

Um yeah, I think there's something there's something like that where he's he was way more hardcore than you know, the the the jazz clarinet clarinet guy that you don't know. It just uh

I have to look that up. I've seen some I've been collecting a lot of vinyl on on live streams and I've seen some pretty wild KD G covers uh of the past and like, yeah, maybe I should check this out one day. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah, there uh m I think my overall favorite one is I man, I can't remember the name of it, but it talks about one of the earliest uh rock and roll radio stations in America and

this was back like early enough to when uh music a lot of it was segregated culturally still in in our country. And I I thought a really cool part of the documentary is they talked about how Like overseas like Britain they would have to do.

Wait.

pick up the station through like pirate radio signals and so so a lot of the kids over there grew up listening to rock and roll when the white kids over here still kinda weren't.

And that's what kinda led to them like wanting to play rock and roll, which then led to the British invasion. So it kinda comes like full circle. And then of course the British invasion leads to like Americans learning like rock and roll.

Like building off like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, the Who, and like all Black Sabbath and all that. And it's just kind of cool how The music found a way to make its way around the world even like when it wasn't fully accepted in like its own origin of location, you know.

Well you know, be beyond Elvis, you know, not just Elvis.

If you listen to the Rolling Stones, you know, Led Zeppelin, they all want to be black in a way'cause The Stones especially, you know, they they they you know, we're striping temptations and stuff like that'cause they they love that shit but

It was to R Robert Plant's voice, like the the moans and shit, you know?

He's just doing it.

He's just doing what he wants is all he's doing, but that's

Yeah, the thing is they most of them all admit it too. Like they're not they're not trying to hide it'cause it's not like a There's no like deception or deceiving or like taking credit for'cause like you you you can go back and listen to like early interviews.

And they basically name off like all the early like blues and rock and roll artists that inspired them. Um and and like that late sixties, early seventies rock and roll sound, it's very blues based. Like

Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple. Um, it's not'til like later in the seventies when like the the bands that were built off them, then you start to see the blues influence like fade a little bit, but that late sixties

rock and roll and even like the early, early prototype heavy metal like Black Sabbath, uh lots of like blues rifts going on.

I've been discovering bands through buying vinyl. Like bands I didn't know or didn't listen to a lot of and You know, bands like Canned Heat, you know, where you everybody knows going up the country, but they don't know a lot more past that, but they should really explore more'cause

They have albums they just fucking throw down and it's fucking crazy. Sh I love it.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh. What what else? We can go about music for fucking three hours, guys. I don't want to go go on out of shit.

Ha ha.

Uh, I watched uh the Malcolm in the Middle Revival series. Uh Malcum Malcolm in the Middle, Life is Still Unfair.

Um it's decent if you're a Malcolm Middle fan. I mean everything was was done, you know, well, you know, in in in a sense.

I I just think about

forty percent of it was a n unnecessary. But at the same time as a a major fan of the show, I I love I I I still watch the show today. It's still very funny. Um

It didn't have the crudeness really of of the original show. I think that that was missing.

But um if you're a fan of the show, they brought pretty much everybody b everybody back that they could they could possibly get for this thing.

And I I enjoy my time with it. It it ended up with a

A nice conclusion. Um Brian Cranston is still the is still the king uh of everything'cause He can go from Hal to Walter White.

uh to Dalton Trumbo to to to anything. The his versatility as an actor is is is phenomenal. I I I can't I can't even, you know, talk about his range as an actor. He just uh And uh this was this was decent.

Either one of you guys watch this?

I have never watched an episode of Malcolm in the Middle.

Oh yeah.

The the previous series or the new one. Yeah, I just I never got into it. I mean I never even tried.

I I I'm the kind of person that I I watch a lot of series and especially when when Malcolm in the Middle first aired, it was, you know, on television. It's not like they dropped whole seasons at once, so it made a little bit.

little bit more difficult to be loyal to shows, you know, when you had to wait week to week for an episode. So it's like it was the kind of thing where if the first episode didn't grab me

I probably didn't make it to the second. Now, like I said, with Malcolm, I literally never ever sat down to watch one episode. I I remember seeing the commercials. I thought it looked mildly funny, but

I just I don't know. It just didn't interest me enough to kind of sit down and want to watch it. But I mean, I love Brian Cranston, so I probably should give it a shot.

Uh

No, I mean the most I saw of it,'cause I don't I I don't remember if at one time it would come on after The Simpsons or something in that block of programming, but

Sometimes like we would leave the TV on the net the network, but I never really sat down and watched it. Um is the revival was it meant as like a little mini series or was it like a

Yeah, it was good to be s six episodes. Well I think it like they could get a shipped it down to a movie in my opinion. But um that's one thing it it it just seems really

really extended more than it had to be. They could have did this in a movie, I think, but um

But yeah, they're not doing much more because, you know, Crance is obviously busy with so many things and I think uh Frankie Muniz is does NASCAR now. So his schedule is pretty tied up with the NASCAR thing.

He he drives a car for NASCAR.

Interesting.

So that's that's a career path he chose and um that schedule is is very, very busy.

So that was only meant to do like this small thing and like I say it it is what it is. If you're a fan of the show

I'd say dive into it and give it a go, but if you're not a fan of the show, you have no idea who these characters are, I would say no. You know, don't don't do it. Uh But I'll I'll I'll leave it at that, um for that.

Um two more streaming shows that I I watched, I've been I've been binging.

I binged um the first four episodes of Margot's Got Money Troubles. Um I'm having a good time with this show c kind of because it's so fucking awkward.

It's basically about a girl who who has a baby with her college professor and is forced to to take care of it on her own. Um And she decides she's gonna be an OnlyFans girl in in an awkward twist and there's a lot of like awkward things w with her with her parents showing up or

Uh Michelle Piper plays her mom very well. Uh Nick Offerman plays her her father in the show. He's like a

a long addicted um former professional wrestler. And one of the best things about the show is his bear a very subdued performance by Nick Offerman.

So if you want if you have that in your life where he's not playing Ron Swanson, he's not playing anybody, you know, of any real real kind of power, he uh

He plays a real subdued performance in this and I I liked it quite a bit for mostly for that reason. Yeah, once he shows up it it turned into a better show for me.

Oh I I did watch the show and it just wrapped up DTF Saint Louis on HBO, which had uh

Jason Bateman, Linda Carl uh Carl what is it? Cartellina.

Totally in the

Yeah. Carlini and uh I don't what the hell is his name from Stranger? Is it David Harbor?

yeah yeah yeah

Yeah, they were the three leads and it it's kind of like a love triangle murder mystery and suburbia show and I I thought it was pretty good actually. Like uh I wa I wasn't

I wasn't so sure like reading the plot um or the synopsis I wasn't sure but I really like Jason I think Jason Bateman's been really good at picking like the shows he does. So I was like, all right and Lydic Linda Carlene is just

You know, I I don't think I have a turn down watching anything she's in, so

I've always been lukewarm on fucking Jason Bateman. And I don't know what it is about him. He shows up in these movies like uh like the Melissa McCarthy stuff and

the one game night film that people seem to enjoy quite a bit. I just I just never dug'em. I think the reason why I enjoy the rest of the development so much is because It wasn't just him, it was a it was a ensemble of people in that show that I enjoyed.

Something about him and you know, calling me crazy, I just I just never liked him and and

Well that's the thing. It's like I can't point to

movies necessarily that like I'm like, oh wow, Bateman was like a great lead. Except Teen Wolf too, of course. But uh but when it comes to T V shows, like I really liked Ozark and I really liked him in in Ozark. Mm-hmm. So Um and then he was just in another one um

I haven't watched it yet, but it's on Netflix and it looks like some type of like crime drama show.

Um but then the DTF St. Louis, yeah, he was really good. Um so I would say check that and it's a it's a mini series, so I think it was

Seven or eight episodes and that's it. Like if if they did another season, it would have to be about like another cast of characters.

I mean we're we're about the same age. We we grew up with the Hogan family, so I should be a guy who loves Jason Bateman. I'm not gonna lie to you, but I'm just I'm just not that guy that loves Jason Bateman. And it's not in the Team Wolf Two thing. I I I have fun with Team Wolf Two.

People would say, Oh, that's that's like the worst sequel. No, I've seen a lot of worst sequels of Team World too. It's just that's uh just stop that right now. Yeah.

Yeah.

Um Jason Bateman. I I

I can't figure out why. I just I just never I just never felt'em. I I don't hate'em like like I hate Thor Birch, but you know, that that's a that's a deep hatred for Thor Birch, you know.

Not even the person, like the character she plays. She could be like the nicest person in the world, but you know what? She was a real vision ghost world and I I I have a real problem with that, you know.

Well one day we'll do that thorough shape party, you know, just just go for it, you know.

Oh my gosh. Um...

Because uh I I watch this because of the the voice actors involved. There's an animated series on uh Amazon Prime called Kevin in which Jason Schwartzmann plays a talking cat who's gets divorced from his family.

And there's other talking voices of animals on the show and one of which is j is is um the one only just turned eighty, John Waters play plays uh a gay cat on this show and

Whoopi Goldberg plays the voice of one of the cats on the show and I one really relevant is cause I I I watch Sister Act on Disney Plus.

'Cause I wanted to remember why I liked Whoopi Goldberg so much.

Because she she instead of being her normal political jackass self that she knows that she is now on the view, you know, she actually was making some pretty dirty jokes on this this show Kevin about these freaking filthy cats.

So I was like I I'm getting kind of the old whoopee bag. So I I was in a good mood to watch some whoopee, you know.

I I I may watch Jump and Jack Flash later'cause I I just want to, you know. Maybe watch it at work or something because I wanna remember that person that I that I enjoyed before she got her head up brass, you know. It just um

Yeah, it's weird. K Kevin's okay. It it's it's like

The voice actors there, Jason Schwartzman, Amy Siddaris, Aubrey Plaza, um John War John Waters I mentioned is is great. Um a lot of the words that you probably know, but yeah, as far as like

It's trying to be like too crude with the humor and there's not enough story in there. It's kind of a mess.

But the the voice actors will will keep you in it I think'cause I'm I'm a big fan of Jason Schwartzman and h him playing the the lead cat is um I'm something I'm fine with, let's put it that way.

Movies though. I don't I I watch some stuff. I just couldn't tell you what the hell that is.

Oh, I watched Johnny Monomic for no reason at all on Today at Work. I just watched that for no reason at all and I was like I wanna watch something mindless and

Sometimes you need Keanu having too much data in his head, like losing his mind. And then for some reason Henry Rollins and Ice T show up and Dolph Lundgren is like a street Jesus with a sword killing people.

It's just one of those things you need in your life. So if you haven't watched Johnny and Bonomic in a long time, I think you might enjoy this film from nineteen ninety five. I'm just gonna leave that at that because one day we might do it, you know.

'Cause Plugger is insane in a goddamn movie. I love it.

Fucking street Jesus.

Oh my gosh, but I hate tonight.

We're gonna talk about two films that inspired were inspired to be put together by another film, which was the the Clerk documentary, w when Kevin talks about the making of making this one movie that we're gonna talk about, which is Jane and Sound Bob Strikes Back.

where he wanna make his version of the Muppet movies. So I decided to watch those two together and he said, you know what? They fucking fit. So we're gonna talk about the Muppet movie, which is a a deep favorite of mine from my fucking childhood. I did there maybe tears during this podcast, people, okay?

Uh and she has son of Bob Strikes back.

And we're gonna get into those in reverse order, uh, because that's how I want to do this tonight, because one is more special to me than the other one. Jaden Son of Bob strikes back, we'll mix it up.

Right to this trailer.

Mirimax is starting production this Friday on Bluntman and Cry.

sure it'll be Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, you know, they put them in a bunch of movies.

We and Silent Bob are here.

Silent Bob movie.

Basis for WHAT

These two guys from Jersey are on a mission.

Stop that stupid move from getting made, come on!

Going to Hollywood. If they can manage to get

Right.

It's the first rule in the book. Do you follow the book too?

I live my life by it. You live by the

What's up, Daniel? I got it.

Alright.

Keep our eye on the prize and let nothing distract us.

You're not going to be able to do that.

Where they at?

What the Watch the language little boy. There's females present? No!

Is Hollywood ready for Jay and Silent Boss?

¡Ah!

The real Jay and Silent Bob are breaking into show business.

I hate how fake Hollywood.

The hard way.

We may very well be dealing with the two most dangerous men on the planet.

Fire a warning shot into his bulbous

Stand there and react, don't say anything.

Especially you.

All right, people. That's pretty funny.

is a good idea lunchboxing these outfits were totally incock.

Jaden Silent Bob Strike Back from two thousand one. Uh your cheapoplot synopsis is this the comic Blunt Men and Chronic is based on real life stoners Jaden Silent Bob. So when they get no profit from big screen movie adaptation They set out to wreck the movie.

Uh this stars all of Cabinet Smith's people uh in this film. Looking at that right now. Uh Jason Mews as Jay, Cabin Smith himself as Silent Bob.

Oh who else in this movie?

Lots of people I I hate when they do this.

Stupid shit.

His wife, Jenny Schwalblock, shows up in this movie as one of the Diamond Thieves, along with the Lies of Dochku.

And uh the still smoking hot Larder larder. She she's if you haven't watched Land Men people, just uh just look at her now. She she has aged like a fine wine.

Uh It degree Sha degree Shan Elizabeth as as the as the fourth one in that mix.

And then a bunch of the folks that show up at this film that you may know, Jeff Anderson and Brian O'Halloran, of course, as Randall and Dante respectively.

Um Jason Lee shows up in this film as Brody and Banke. Uh Ben Affleck shows up in this film as himself and Holden. The great George Carlin shows up in this film So many people to get into.

Will Farrell of course shows up in this movie. Yeah, Scrum list'cause it doesn't tell you right away, you know, all the people uh Judd Nelson shows up in this movie as a sheriff. He's great.

Dietrich Bader uh makes his B USQ Universe uh debut and what a wonderful role it is as security guard at Miramax and I I will say now.

One of the best unsung Batmans that there is. If you haven't watched Batman The Brave and the Bold,

Him and Will Arnett from Lego Batman, those are the two guys who got the joke. I'll put it up I'm gonna put it that way, if you haven't watched both those things, uh you th you need to fix your life. Uh that's all I'll say about it.

Uh yeah, great cameos. Mark Hamill shows up.

Uh, if you guys don't know, right around this time, editor of Marvel Comics, Joey Casada, is gonna get fucked by Elijah Dushku apparently in this movie and uh you know what, he shows as a pizza guy in this movie and he's that guy, you know.

I love showing you. I've had some some great conversation. We have a Comic Con. Um yeah, lots of folks in this movie.

Yeah, the the the plot synopsis is what it is. You know, it's supposed to meant to be like the the super film, the the the end all if you watch the very end of the film through the credits.

It has Alanis Morris that is Jesus closing a book, which means to say this is the end of this cycle of films. And uh it is for a while.

But I'm gonna get to uh the the talking points of this film with with my co-host here and kick it to you, Mike, first. Um thoughts and and whatever on J and Sell Bob Strike Back.

All right, so this I'm trying to think. Did I see yeah, I think I saw a a couple Kevin Smith movies in the theater before this. Um I remember when this movie got announced, I was

Kinda like curious cause to me Ali like up to now Jane, Silent Bob were mostly kind of like side characters. They were like the two goofballs that you would expect to show up in a Kevin Smith movie for like a scene or two, say like they're

Jane sat on Bob lines and then kind of like disappear from the story or plot, maybe come back around at some point, but they were never like a major part. So I was like wondering how are you gonna have them anchor

an entire movie. Well, what do you do? You put'em in a movie with an ensemble cast on a road trip where like every five minutes they're running into like other characters to help push the movie and make it interesting.

And as a fan of just like movies overall just kinda point to the screen with your friends like, oh look who showed up.

Um s and I i it's interesting that Kevin Smith says he made this to make his own Muppet movie'cause you can totally kind of see it in the style of the of the of the road trip of their uh going to save something or not necessarily save but like track something down.

to make claim to. And overall, yeah, I think it's a fun, fun movie. It and it and it's weird because at the time it almost was made like as a fan of kind of like the Kevin Smith universe or I don't know if that's the right thing to call.

Uh releases photography.

And uh

I will say it does feel very of its time. Like That I kind of feel like Kevin Smith's like nineties movies they do feel they do have like a nineties timestamp, but I think that's just because he is big on like pop culture stuff in his movies and the script with references and settings and

characters and all that stuff. So I mean in that sense you could say it has a timestamp on it somewhat, but overall Been a fan.

Remain a fan.

And what might surprise you, I haven't seen the other one. What that that'cause they there was like one from a few years ago, right? Another Jane Scient Bob like reboot something or

I still haven't seen that one. Not on purpose, but I just I didn't see it when it came out. And then it just kind of One of those situations where it just kinda fades into the background and before you know it, years have gone by and

I'm I'll let you guys let me know what you think about that one, maybe as a side note and if I should check it out. But yeah, overall a a fan of this one. Uh I mean we'll get into it more in a bit.

It's it ain't got that in the emotional heft of like a clerks three where you know when clerks three came out I didn't think I needed it in my life.

But when you get to watching Clerks and you and you get to the end, you're like, Well, I guess I need Clerks Three in my life. It doesn't have that emotional heft to it a like Clerks Three has. You know.

Hm. I I think that because

Mike is now a parent and wasn't a parent when the first uh, you know, Kevin Smith movies were coming out. I think it might actually speak to him a little bit more than it might have spoken to us. I love it. I I think the reboot is great. I think it was so much better.

than it even should have been. I do agree that Clerks Three is spectacular and definitely, you know, a much more emotional film.

But I I thought Jay and Silent Bob uh reboot was still really, really good. And like I said, if you're a parent now and you weren't in the nineties, then it's almost essential viewing.

Well yeah, I enjoy it. Not like I like I enjoyed the four thirty movie, if you you guys watch that. Right. Mm-hmm. That um that gave those kids a chance to shine and kind of let let his people be on like the sidelines and I appreciated that about that movie.

Uh, Venom, your your thoughts are

Okay, so uh I gotta give a little bit of history first.

I adore Kevin Smith. I fucking love him uh more than I than any human probably should.

I honestly think that his first four films are absolute genius. Clerk, Small Rats, Chasing Amy, Dogma.

And honestly, in my opinion, I think dogma is a is damn near a masterpiece. But obviously we're not talking about dogma today. So After those first four films, um, not right after, but you know, a few years after, then we get the Jay and Silent Bob movie, or Jay and Silent Bob strike back.

And I gotta say, I didn't like it when I saw it in theaters, believe it or not. Not to say that I hated it.

I just thought that it was too much Jay and Silent Bob. Like I at the time, I was a huge fan of Jay and Silent Bob.

But it was kind of like Saturday Night Live actors for me. I like them in small doses, but once they actually anchor a film, I'm not always the biggest fan.

Uh and that's kind of how I felt about Jay and Silent Bob after watching it the first time in theaters. Now, fast forward, you know, over 20 years, and it has slowed.

And that's mainly because of

kind of the place in history that this movie has. This movie created so many Jay and Silent Bob isms that, you know, the movie has become over the decades endlessly quotable.

From the songs that are sung in the movie to obviously iconic lines throughout the movie. It just

it became it I warmed up to it. Let's just say that. And I remember a big part of why I didn't like it the first time as well was because of the Jewel Thieves, the the four girls. I just remember thinking

They only put these girls in the movie because they look good because I I honestly, after one watch in the theaters when it was new.

I thought it was a completely wasted storyline. I'm like, oh, they had to tack something onto the movie to get Jay and Silent Bob to Hollywood.

and make it somewhat interesting. But like I said, over the years I've warmed up to it. I actu I actually think Shannon Elizabeth is hysterical in this movie.

Um, I I I've like I said, I've warmed up to almost everyone in the movie. I think Jay and Silent Bob both do a great job, or should I say Jason Mews and Kevin Smith.

Both do a great job in this one. And watching it last week for this show, it was an absolute pleasure. I mean, the entire hour and whatever minutes this movie is.

Oh I just had an ear to ear grin on my face. And I and honestly, I hadn't watched it in probably close to ten years.

But watching it with Mrs. Venom and who is also a huge fan of Kevin Smith. We've actually met Kevin Smith multiple times. Obviously, we live out here in LA.

I got to talk to Kevin Smith. I actually got to smoke with him uh after the Clerks Three premiere out here in LA. Uh that's a whole nother story that I'll hold on for another time. But yeah.

Uh just great, great guy, Kevin Smith. I mean w one of the most

It probably the celebrity that a adores his fans the most that I've ever met. I'm sure there's other celebrities that love their fans more, but Of the celebrities that I've met, man, Kevin Smith will take all the time in the world to talk to his fans.

to the point where once I mentioned uh Kevin Conroy and and how uh he's my Batman as well, because Kevin Smith famously says that Kevin Conroy is his Batman and he's my Batman as well.

And as soon as I said that, he literally pulls out one of his gigantic joints.

and lights it and we just start having um just this uh you know great exchange of stories about the man, about the first time we heard his voice as Batman.

what it meant to us. And at the time, uh, Kevin was still with us, but his health was failing.

So, you know, the end of the conversation did get a little sad because we all kind of knew the end was near. And as it turns out, he passed he ended up passing away less than three months after this evening, that that particular night. So

Yeah, so like I said, I love Kevin Smith and I have really, really warmed up to his middle career movies, you know, the Jay and Silent Bob stuff.

Some of the other stuff that he's done here in the middle. Uh and then the later stuff that he's done. I'm uh once again a gigantic fan of, you know, uh the the the true north trilogy, which I know gets a lot of hate from uh Cinephiles. Uh huh.

I actually love

Of all three trap chapters. I'll I'll be that guy that defends those movies. And yes, I will defend yoga hosers. I don't care.

It I get enjoyment out of it and that's all that matters to me. I enjoy my experience with it. No, I'm not gonna say it's a ten out of ten or one of Kevin Smith's best movies.

But when you like the man as much as, you know, Mrs. Venom and myself do, uh, it's a no-brainer that, you know, we're gonna love almost everything that he does. So yeah, like I said.

Didn't really like Jay and Silent Bob strike back at first because I thought it was a little too much Jay and Silent Bob at the time, but I've absolutely warmed up to it.

To the point now where it it is easily my favorite of the three Jay and Silent Bob movies. So yeah, absolutely love it.

Yeah, I'm still waiting for freaking moose jaws to happen. Um I'm still waiting for that to happen, but it hasn't happened yet. But um yeah, I enjoy yoga horses quite a bit too in tusk. Y yoga horses

I I always saw the camp in it. We were reading this a long time ago and I took a lot of slack for liking this movie as much as I did. But you know, I I always appreciated the camp in the film and

And toss you know, bought bought and sold, but by Michael Park's performance. Exactly.

That conversation between Parks and uh Justin, uh Justin Long when they first meet, I could watch that scene ad nauseum. I love it.

And and Red State as well, Michael Parks in that movie is just um

Exactly.

Him and um was it what's the lady's name? M Melissa Leo is great that movie too.

I just love watching if you ever watch this, is uh it's on Prime right now, the Clerk documentary.

Oh yeah. They have they have Betty Aberlin on there, l Lady Abern herself, another person who make me cry by by singing the song to a talking cat. Um uh talking about her love for Kevin. He's like, Oh, you're in this movie? Well, well, I was in Red State and

This is fucking Lady Iverland from Mr. Rogers Rogers neighborhood so proud of her her time with Kevin and like you mentioned Venom it's a testament to him because he is a he is a fans director. I I can name I can say that about

three directors that I've met over the years and that's him Don Coscarelli and Sam Raimi because you could they just geek out just like the rest of us.

And yeah, there there must meets if you haven't done those those T three three people, there must meets for anybody who wants to talk to a real fans director.

side sidebar here. I could tell I felt like sitting down on the carpet when I was talking to Don Crascarelli about H his untie his his uh

unruly uh jungle cat action in the Beastmaster movie just telling us stories and stuff about that and I'm like, yeah, I'd I'll just sit here and listen to this for an hour. It's a beautiful thing. But uh this film though, yeah, I first time I saw this

was on a bootleg V C D and it was the work print of this and

Different music. I mean if you watch, if you see if you know where this version is, it has the counter on the bottom. Has additional scenes that are probably on the D V D.

And like musical changes like um when Shannon comes in the movies doing the whole sexy dance thing, it's it's Prince's um what is it, the most beautiful girl in the world?

They don't play the Bon Jovi, they play that song. So that's a little little side note about that. But the film itself, you know, the way Kevin described it in the documentary, like

Yeah, he wanna make his Muffin movie, and that's precisely what this is. This is a film we'll discuss further when we talk about the Muppet movie that's designed to to showcase people for like for like five minutes.

You know, and you get that throughout this thing, and I I love these characters that show up.

Carrie Fisher shows up for like a hot second when after George Carlin convinces them that to get down the road, you know, you gotta know the rules of the road. Then Clue was given blowjobs for rides, so you know

He's gonna go down the go down on the nun Carrie Fisher in this movie and I I just can't stop laughing when shit like that happens in this movie. It's just um it's so it's so funny. And

The the little shit and and that's all it's just it's a series it's a series of of situations that I can't get enough of. So it's not really I could say'cause it has a beginning, a middle and an end. It's just um It also has the ending to which

M most geese like ourselves would say, Hey, we'd love to do that to where they, you know, they get money. So they go across the country to all the folks that are talking shit about them on the internet to beat the shit of them and you know

Yeah, I w I would go that extreme, but you know, it's just kind of a a secret fantasy I guess that a nerd would have to say, you know what? I have the means, why not go talk shit to people? But um

But like you said, the the the the the diamond thieves thing, I can see why that would turn you off, m you know, but it's w whatever they need to get themselves down the road, you know, where she it it leads to you know them

ha having a mishap and Jay finding love and you know that's fine. You have to flesh out these characters more like'cause like you said, they're only in these other films for like It's like side characters.

Whereas everybody else is is showcased more and now it's their time to be showcased and do they do it well? Yeah, yeah, they do it well in my opinion. I just um

If you think that Jason Muses is obnoxious, yeah, y you might not like him so much in this movie because he's just he's just playing Jason Muse, um who I've met

at very different points of his life. I've met him right around ne here, around the year two thousand to where he was I think still very much on heroin and uh he was out of it and

I met him years later when he was not on heroin and just the most loving dude on the planet. So she just he's the hugger man that Jason used and he he doesn't care either and that that's fine. Um

I I love um the the beginning of this film makes you laugh real hard, like the whole origin of, you know, the them the the kids on the side of the convenience store and them still hanging out there.

And one of those kids is a very a very young Harley Quinn Smith. I think it's supposed to be the the Kevin Smith baby is is Harley Quinn in the in the film and

Who also becomes, you know, one of the collins later on in Yoga Hosers. You guys know that.

And um I just um the that whole start of the film sets it up and leads to a pretty amazing ending in my opinion, to where they have the premiere, you know, more more Kevin Smith people show up, you get the great

King Mustafa as uh Hooper X shows up in this film. Fli like you want'em to. Uh Scott Mosier, who's like the the the the linch the other linchpin in the in the V U SQ universe, shows up as this is a Snowball again and

It leads to Morris Day and and I'm I'm fine with that. And

Other funny shit that ensues in this film is there's a l it's a lot. It's a lot to take in. But yeah.

I just um I enjoy my time with it. I always have and you know

It came out it came out at the right time. I was twenty years old when this came out, so I was I was I was fresh out of high school pretty much, just though my my brain was still very much high school based, you know, to where

I really enjoy what I saw so far. I don't enjoy chasing Amy so much now, but it is it is what it is. Uh Discussed that in another show too, Chase again.

I I agree also Shannon Elizabeth is really good in this. I agree with Venom like when I initially saw it, you kind of look at the casting of like all the women is like, oh he's just

casting some hot women to fill in like these filler rolls with the jewel thief things or plot. But then when I was watching it for the show

I was like, man, Shannon Elizabeth's actually like putting some acting chops in Jane's Bob's trike back of all movies. Like she was funny and bubbly and like really good as that character.

Yeah. I think I just spilled a cup is all say about that. You know, that that that scene right there. It's beautiful.

Beautiful.

Yeah, Liza Dushke was in her her uh her Buffy kicking ass prime at this point. I forget when when season three happened to Buffy, I'm gonna say

Ninety nine, two thousand, right right around there, when Faith shows up. And uh and so she's right in the mix here as far as like still being pretty popular in

I've watched Bring It On probably like seven or eight times that's been I care to admit to. It just um it just shows up in my in my my case sometimes and

I look at her in the sheer lean outfit and you know get get excited. But you know, it is what it is. You know, we we we do these things. I watched New Guy recently. I really enjoyed Laz of D screwing that too. Um But yeah, I'll leave it at that if you haven't watched it.

If you're on the fence about it, if you if you hate it, um I guess you don't enjoy joyous things in your life like, you know, just enjoying uh Mark Campbell as cock knocker, you know, p playing, you know

an insane, you know, person with with a dildo shaped lightsaber, you know, w willing to laugh at himself, which, you know, you wouldn't expect that, you know, but you don't know a whole lot about'em in that sense. But

Yeah, dildo shaped lightsaber, b bong shaped lightsaber with the with the double the double blade and

Pretty fucking fluid, man. I I gotta say Jason uses lightsaber skills in this film. He's doing the whole thing, he's doing doing the flips when he freaking puts the one side out and he freaking smokes out the other side. I I just

It's so fluid and I I gotta say the acting the acting and the stunt chops are are uh it's it's pretty on point. I like it, you know. But um I like the film quite a bit.

I I'll kick it back to you, Mike. Anything else you want to say about it, sir?

Um, I mean I would just say obviously for Kevin Smith fans, I don't know what much I have to s tell them, but for for others who might not have seen this already, yeah, look at it like a Muppets movie in the View of Skew universe, because you get recur uh returning characters, returning cast.

Um and you get a wacky as hell plot to go with it. Um so yeah, check it out.

That's the big problem with both with c with chemist chemist with films and chemists with fans is there's really no division there. Either you like'em or you don't like'em.

So I have a couple Kevin Smith d you know I'm not even calling deniers. You like what you like, but you know, they they despise him so

I I went to Chronicon the first year and they felt like my people. To where somebody else that might have went to Chronicon, they didn't feel like their people. So there's that, you know uh Mr. Benham, anything else you wanna say, sir?

I mean, I'm not sure.

Man, I'm not sure what's left to say. I mean, amazing cast, great score, great performance by Morris Day in the time. I mean, there's

At this point, there's almost nothing for me to complain about. Like I said, I I had lots to complain about after seeing it once in the theater, but for some reason All of those complaints have just melted away and I recognize it for the silly, goofy.

Amazing stoner comedy that it is. And now I just I absolutely adore it. So yeah, I've come around.

It's really good. I really enjoyed time with it and um like I said, see series of cutscenes that they're hilarious. I I do agree, West Craven.

Scream seven could have used a monkey.'Cause let me tell ya, it works so well in that scene in this movie. Just um

Ha ha.

That's Scream Seven Eight. They need they need a a secret monkey in the movie.

It could have been phenomena, people. It could have been phenomena. But you know, it wasn't. So there's that, yeah.

Uh, Gus Van Zanti make me laugh. This movie, you know. I guess you're no longer that good, Will Hunting, you know.

Oh my gosh.

It's so silly. But um speaking of silliness, so we're we're gonna go on the road in a bear's natural habitat, a Studebaker with um nineteen seventy nine's the Muppet movie.

After the trailer.

Hey, we're all going to Hollywood. You wanna come with us?

Stick out your thumb.

Removing right now.

It's a story of the open.

Aaron is natural.

Kermit guiding the It's all up.

Steve Martin.

Here we go!

Now you can own the mup.

Gazette.

Uh the Muppin movie nineteen seventy nine uh your cube plot synopsis is this. Kermit and his newfound friends trek across America to find success in Hollywood.

But a frog legs merchant, oh, played brilliantly, but by the great Charles Derning. Is it's actor Kermit. Um you're your your your performers in this film, I gotta say performers because they're their voices of puppeteers.

Uh, the great Jim Henson, uh personal hero of mine.

S. Kermit Ralph, Doctor Teeth, Waldorf, Swedish Chef, and more. Frank Oz says Miss Piggy, Fozzie Bear, Animal, Sam the Eagle, and more.

Gary Nestle Delson, exploit pepper, crazy hairy and more.

Um what are we at here? Richard Hunt as Scooter, Statler, Janice, Sweetems, Beager, Fozzie, as L and S and and more. Uh my favorite my heart, uh Dave Gills.

a as uh the great Gonzo, suit, Doctor Bunsen, Honeydew and more. Um your your Who Man actors in this film.

uh Charles Derning as Doc Hopper. Um the also great Austin Pendleton as as Mac

Is that a cast of of so many people? And the film starts with with Don Deloise, uh the scri the the the the director of the French Mistake, if you will. Um

But it goes on and on and on. Great running gag with Carol Kane in this movie. Uh Madeline Kahn and James Coburn about about five seconds of each other, along with the great Paul Williams who who wrote the music for this.

Uh Uncle Milton himself, Milton Burl, uh shows up in this movie. I can go on and on and on with it with the cameos, the great Telly Savala.

um the great Orson Wells himself shows up as the president of the studio at the end of this movie. Richard Pryor, Cloris Leechman. I would do this for a long, long time, so I'm not going to

I love the Muppets. Um E even even the latter stuff. I I just watched a goddamn special with Sabrina Carpenter. I watched it five times'cause I enjoyed it that goddamn much. Um

I I'm gonna leave some Muppet love to somebody else though. I'm gonna start with Venom. Uh what do you think of the Muppet movie, sir?

Oh my god.

Um I I can't gush enough for this movie. I absolutely adore the Muppet movie. This is literally one of my top twenty-five films of all time.

I saw this in theaters uh when it came out, which was what 707. So yeah, nine-year-old Mr. Venom sitting in the theater watching the Muppets. I was such a loyal viewer of the Muppets that

I would get mad if my parents let me fall asleep because the Muppets came on at 7 30 every weeknight back in the late 70s, mid to late 70s, uh, usually 7:30 on ABC and

Every and obviously when you're really, really young, seven thirty is kinda late. So

There'd be times where I would fall asleep and I would wake up and the Muppet Show would be over and I would get mad at my parents for not waking me up in their defense. They probably didn't realize I was asleep half the time, but

Yeah, absolute religious viewer of the Muppets. And when this movie came out, I would not shut up until my parents took me to see it. I mean, they kind of knew that they were gonna have to take me once that trailer came out.

Um, it was literally my favorite property at the time, more than any cartoon that was on at the time, any Saturday morning cartoon.

any other kid show, you know, Captain Kangaroo or The Secret Garden or The Electric Company, it it the Muppets always trump them all.

I don't remember much about my experience watching this in the theater as I was nine years old, so I probably won't get into that too much.

But I will get into my thoughts on this movie as an adult and I still adore this film. I I watched it just a couple of days ago in preparation for this show.

And again it it's just ear to ear grin from beginning to end. Every single song. I sing along with every single song in this movie.

I love every character in this movie, even the ones that we're supposed to hate, the villains, you know, uh Doc Hopper is absolutely brilliant. Charles Derning.

Is such a great villain, but without coming off as like overly brutal or evil-minded, if you will. Like he was just the perfect

villain for a kids movie or a family film, if you will. Like, yes, he wants to do bad things, but, you know, it it's not like he would necessarily, you know

kill or or do too much bad stuff, even though yes, he he did want to kill Kermit at the end, but you know, that's a story for another time. But anyway, the point is

I love every frame of this movie. I love every song in this movie. I love every scene in this movie. It and it's not just I mean, I'm I'm sure nostalgia is about 90% of why I love this movie, but even watching it as an adult, this is a very

This is a pretty intelligent story for a Muppet movie, something that's, you know, like I said, family-oriented. Great story.

of someone, you know, trying to find their purpose in life who's maybe no longer happy just living in the swamp and singing about the rainbow connection.

The the way uh the way that he runs across everybody, the way that he meets Miss Piggy. I mean, this is almost an origin story, if you will, for the original Muppet show, because you know, Kermit.

on the road and he's actually meeting all these people. I mean, you could call this the prequel for the Muppet Show because

Uh you you could look at it as after Orson Wells gives them their rich and famous contract, they then get the Muppet Show, which makes them rich and famous. So

Um uh the with that connection to the original show, which again, I absolutely adore. I still watch the Muppet Show to this day. It's on Disney Plus.

I watch all five seasons. I I'll just pop on any random episode.

Being who I am, of course, my favorite episodes are like Vincent Price, Alice Cooper.

Buddy, uh, Buddy Rich. Uh just the the drum battle between Buddy Rich and Animal is literally historic. I mean, it's something that I talked about for months after first seeing it.

Uh it actually introduced me to Buddy Rich. In fact, the Muppet Show introduced me to a lot of these celebrities who, you know, as as a as a you know, seven, eight, nine-year-old, I had no idea who a lot, I mean, I had no idea who Alice Cooper was.

before, you know, nineteen seventy-nine. But then after that, I I I literally went out and uh I forced my father to buy me Alice Cooper's greatest hit.

the first greatest hits, the one that has all his songs from the seventies, eighteen, Welcome to My Nightmare, all those uh big early hits. And I I I think I wore out the vinyl. Uh yes, we were buying vinyl back then.

And I'm pretty sure I wore it out. I listened to it that much. That and Weird Owl's 3D or two albums that I remember wearing out because I listened to them so much.

But yeah, I mean, like I said, this is gonna be just a big gush session for this movie, as far as I'm concerned. I literally have no complaints.

It's a great story, as I've already said, great score. It's even got some good filmmaking, some good cinematography, um, some good setup shots. I mean, the very first shot in the movie in the swamp is great.

Um, all all of the stars. I mean, uh like I and just like with the Muppet Show introducing me to celebrities as a young kid, uh, this movie also intro I think this was the first time I ever saw Dom Delouie.

And then a couple of years later seeing him in the cannonball run and yelling in the theater, Hey, that's the guy from the Muppet movie. You know what I mean? So I just

Every all of the celebrities in this movie I have a connection to. I love them all. I mean, Cloris Leachman I've been a gigantic fan of since seeing her in this movie.

Orson Wells. I mean, I had no idea. I mean, why would a nine year old know who Orson Wells is? He has no reason to know who Orson Wells is. But then I walk away

And I do research and yes, I mean, in nineteen seventy nine without an internet and obviously being nine years old, you're kind of stuck with just the library for research. But looking up Orson Wells, seeing his filmography.

Reading that one of his movies is considered one of the greatest movies ever made. Obviously, Citizen Kane.

And it it it just got me to really I I I mean, honestly, the Muppet movie might be part of the reason why I'm such a cinephile because I ended up just looking up all these stars and becoming huge fans of all of them and

It all comes back to the Muppet movie to like I said, nine-year-old Mr. Venom sitting in the theater in absolute awe and wonder at what I was looking at and just Thinking that the pinnacle of the Muppets would be the show because the show was so great, and then sitting in a theater.

And somehow getting my mind blown uh with just how great this w this movie was made, how seriously the subject matter is taken. I mean, ultimately, this is a movie about puppets.

And but it's still emotional. It it it's still funny, it's still sad.

I mean, it all the emotions are touched in this movie. Fear, you know, fear for Kermit and what might happen to him if Doc Hopper catches him. You know, just all of this stuff.

Um, yeah, I mean, standing here right now thinking about it, I legitimately think the Muppet movie made me a Cinephile. You know, obviously didn't make me the horror fan that I am right now, but it made me the Cinephile that I am.

And I uh you know, I will forever be in debt to Jim Henson and everyone.

uh had a hand in making this film. As I've said, it is easily a top twenty five, maybe even higher movie of all time for me. So Just for the sake of uh not taking up more time than I already have, I'm gonna go ahead and turn the mic back over to Gary.

And just say, I absolutely love this movie. I literally have no complaints about it. So that's all for me for now.

It's funny you mentioned like, you know, pop culture references being mixed in, like the Muppet Show, you watch Muppet Show and you have no idea you have no no idea who Harry Belafonte is, but you're you're enjoying yourself, but

I think our our version of that and I I I I judged'em up as you know, from all my life, but me and Mike are nineties kids mostly, I'm sure. You know, in comparison to you, who you're a little older than us.

The Animaniacs were good at doing that. They would like mix in

Like Peter Lorrie shit. Yeah. But Mike, how do you feel, brother, about the Mub movie?

Yeah, so due to my age difference with Venom, I came to the Muppets a little bit later. I

I had probably been watching the Muppet Show in syndication. Like it was still running uh like new episodes.

uh in the I think in the mid eighties when I started to get old enough to like wa watch it on T V but I was probably also in syndication and When I finally saw the movie

I think

similar experience, a lot of actors and actresses that I didn't know a lot about. Um, again, we didn't have like

uh well we didn't have the internet at all but especially like IMDB like you you couldn't just look these people up necessarily so it created this mist mystique and intrigue about like well who are these people that the Muppets are interacting with and

Going back to watch it now and it's like these are the ages of all Uh, the cast that like it just takes me instantly back to childhood because it this is kind of like the age range of the cast that I just

remember it's like cemented in my head like of my childhood, like this is what they all look like. Like I think Mel Brooks. I'm like, Oh, yes, this is the Mel Brooks I remember just from my age group, I guess. And

I think that you he despite like, you know, being a horror phantom and loving the practical effects and

how they bring things to life. I think

Jim Henson might be like my number one pick for who can bring like puppet puppets and puppetry to life. Like when you're watching something produced by Jim Henson, specifically the Muppets.

It's like you know they're Muppets, but it they just feel so lifelike in their mannerisms and their interactions and

it just leaves you with like a warm feeling every time. Like it it's something that if you want to smile, put on something Muppets, especially from the original like run of the show in the in the first

few movies. I remember last Christmas uh we watched uh the Muppet Christmas Carol and this it had been the first time I seen it f in a long time and it's just

It's just like pure goodness. Like what you want a Especially in today's world with everything going on when you just want a slice of goodness, like put on the Muppets, like anything from the Muppets.

It's a staple now.

Yeah. And like when uh we first got Disney Plus or when they first added like the Muppets the Muppet Show to it, it's like of course I'm I'm scrolling through and I find the Vincent Price episode and it's just like amazing. Like it

Something that can elicit the same feeling as as an adult as it did with a kid. And of course like nostalgia does. I'm not gonna say it's absent the Like I can't say it would have the same effect for someone who's too young to have even grown up with the Muppets.

But I mean that's that's natural and I think everyone is going to have their nostalgia. Like for people that are younger than me, they will have their nostalgia for like other stuff. But for me, the Muppet

And Jim and like Jim and I I still haven't watched the Jim Ensign doc yet. And I know it's gonna happen eventually and I know there's gonna be feelings had during it because like I said, it's just to me it's just

the best example I can think of just uh pure goodness in like TV and film and like the arts and it's

You know, people get into that business for all sorts of reasons. But I think j it's safe to say like you can point to Jim Henson that got into it just to spread goodness in the world. And I think he accomplished that with flying colors. So

I'll leave it at that because anything else, and I'd probably just be re repeating everything Venom said. So there you go.

Yeah, um the documentary is is wonderful and yes, tears will be shed, but

you know, it really gets into some crazy stuff that he was into before that that I forgot about that I never actually get to watch till later in life was like the experimental films he did for Saturday Night Live and stuff like that. He gets into that stuff like that and

stuff you wanted to do with cinema, like, you know, make like an all around theater, like where the screen goes all the way around, you know, and And um, as far as the Muppets go, the first one I ever saw was Muppets taking my hat.

So that that that popped up, you know, quite a bit on the on like the Disney Channel and stuff, but When m we and Mike me when me and Mike were kids, uh Disney Channel was a thing and Frango Rock was a thing.

So I'd say my first introduction to Jim Henson, I'd say would be Fraggle Rock. It just it just was something that was always there and uh I watched quite a bit of actually that and the the Muppet Babies actually the cartoons.

uh does follow that bird count as a Muppets movie because I don't have Sesame Street heavy

It does. It has it has I would say it does. It has like those characters in it that I think

Because I because I I think Muppets Take Manhattan is the first one I saw too. It's just that for whatever reason, probably just because of my age and when we first got

Eat all the time. The first one I saw.

I I think it has Kermit in there and like a couple other ones. All I remember is that fucking sad ass fucking bird inside the cage. Like they're they're keeping your Yeah.

What are you doing, man? You know, there's a big bird. Yeah, I get real sad and you know

I got to meet Carol in person. Carol Spinney is a puppeteer for Big Bird and uh

I felt about two feet tall when I met'em. Okay, to put it that way. Like I was that little kid again, you know. Uh I digress though. The Muppin movie though in y is as is a wonderful collection of people making wonderful things.

Uh, I will say that I I live my life. I would say, you know, I don't need to go to church. I I I have Johnny Cash for for that in most situations. Um

When I wanna feel inspiration, all all I all I do is listen to Muppet songs and get them in the back of my brain. Uh the Muppets and Mr. Rogers, I mentioned Mr. Rogers earlier, uh, songs. I'll I'll play them. Um

And this one has some good ones, uh, the Rainbow Connection naturally. Um ve starts with that, you know, Kermit on a fucking log with a banjo singing this fucking wonderful song and

Um, if you got women problems, uh go listen to Rolf play the piano, man, with with Kermit, you know. I hope that something better comes along. It just it it it hits it hits.

And uh the the king the king song throughout the whole thing, besides the finale of course the finale's great as uh with a Strand and Desert in Gonzo.

is singing about home. Uh I'm gonna go back there someday. W y you don't know until you like Muppets from Space that Gonzo's from the world'cause they didn't really play that until, you know, where does Gonzo come from? What is Gonzo?

But he's singing this really you know

Sad and inspirational song about wanting to go home. And you know what? It it slaps you in the face with all the feels.

Into the middle, you know, a band I I live my life by, you know, at some point in time'cause they're all different people. Uh Doctor T and Electric Mayhem, uh I I found musical inspiration in all these people because they're all they're all the animal himself

is is actually a combination between Levon Levon Helm and and Keith Moon. They've said this and Doctor Keith is is Doctor John, legendary

blues voice of all time. Um, look these things up, uh, please. Uh

Um, but the movie itself is it play plays like a great adventure, you know, to where they're they Kermer gets an opportunity, uh, and he just starts picking up people, you know, that you love from from the Muppets show and and beyond and

And it plays so well in that sense and them beating people on the road and the whole idea of crazy Doc Hopper played by Charles Derning, you know, chasing them throughout the whole film play plays plays a great through line through the whole film.

him and, you know, Austin Pendleton chasing'em down, but I mentioned some of the cameos. They're they're all they're all golden. They all have like their their moment and

The dad jokes throughout um the very at the very beginning they use it more than once for the movie in Kermation Combat. I guess it's gonna be a thing or something in the movie where Something about Dom Deluise says something about finding himself or or uh

And he he heard it goes, Have we tried Hare Krishna? you know? It is this like a it's like a joke that, you know, would work then but maybe not so much now, but I still laugh at it. It's like that dead joke, like like the literal fork on the road.

is um hilarious in the moving right along song and I just love silly things like that thrown in and

I love so many things about this film. Um I mentioned all the songs that are written by Paul Williams, uh who wrote many, many songs for other people and for himself.

Um, you guys don't know this is the little Enos Burdette from from uh Smokey and the Bandit, who who's also Swan from Phantom of the Paradise. He wrote all the music and lyrics for that.

And uh we've only just begun to live for the carpenters.

um old fashioned love song for a three dog night if you haven't watched the Muppet Show with Paul on there. He does it with with little midget Paul Paul Williams puppets. Muppets and they're freaking what's freaking wonderful. Um

Yeah, this film though it's just it plays like a great great adventure, it goes goes to a great conclusion and um again I'll I cry if I think too much about yeah.

The whole l l l lip is the movie make your own ending. It's just it's it plays so perfectly right to the very, very end. And I just I love everything about it, man. It's just um

It's just a just turn it on. You just mentioned the Muppet Show. Yeah, all the all these old stars You guys go to, you know, any given episode and you you'll see hey, this one has I I don't know, Carol Channing or something on it.

And it's so funny. And you wanna explore more stuff by that person where if you when you were a kid, you can give a shit about like Carol Channing, but you as an adult now, I think those Muppet shows hit a little harder now'cause you wanna you wanna explore more

uh stuff these folks are in, um, figure'em up the show moments. I will say all day long. Again, the one that hits me in the fields are always the ones that h hit the most and

Julie Andrews. Um Mary Poppins played a lot in my house. So I love Julie Andrews. Uh sound of music played a lot in my grandmother's house.

Uh she does a song with Kermit or Kermit's son, I forget I have to watch it again and fucking weep again like a fucking bitch.

When I was a tadpole and you were a fish, uh is the name of the song and just

It just fucks Gary up, okay? It just does it every time. And uh Yeah, and that's what the bumpers do to me, is is that in that in Mister Rogers neighborhood in uh I just um I I love

I love so many things about this film. It's again it's hard it's hard not to gush like Benham says. And if you haven't seen it before and

You wanna show something to your kids that's that's fucking wholesome but but funny for you to watch, like you say, hey the kids will enjoy the puppets, but I'm I'm gonna enjoy Telly Sabala showing up for five seconds.

Or I'm gonna enjoy Richard Prior's show for five seconds giving Gonzo balloons where he but he blows away on these balloons and it's very, very silly. Um but um

If you guys wanna visualize what it but visualization of what it looks like, uh I I'll say with another song title uh by the the electric mayhem, uh Can You Picture That?

And that's where I'll leave that and say, Yes, go watch the Mupin movie. It'll make you feel better in all the right places. That all I'll say about that. Um Mike, anything else about the film that you want to talk about, sir?

I mean Uh

Yeah.

I don't know what else there's to say. I I gush over this. I gush over most things in this era of the Muppets. It they really can't miss.

I would say if you're either brand new to the Muppets or you just kind of like know it in passing, go check out the archives because

I mean, I think the show is incredible. I think the movies are incredible and uh

Yeah.

That's that's a piece of my childhood for sure. Probably well, all three of us, it sounds like, and it's getting a ringing endorsement. So Um, and and you know, uh something you brought up about I I love how they use cameos in a way that no one's appearance seems to

uh where it's welcome. Like they get in there, do their thing, and it it always feels endearing. They always feel like they're

100% into it. No one's phoning it in. It feels like their love and admiration for the Muppets is as big as the fans that are the viewers. So that's another great aspect to these movies. So check it out.

Man, what could I say that I haven't already said? I mean, absolute classic film, a a pinnacle of family entertainment.

As Mike said, it's uh it it entertains kids, it entertains adults, it's timeless. I mean, good writing is good writing. It doesn't matter what era it comes from and

Ultimately, if you have any love whatsoever for any Muppet property. And what's funny too is that the Muppet of all the Jim Henson properties.

Uh, the true Muppets aren't even my favorite uh thing, like my favorite piece of content, uh my favorite piece of um

Uh Jim Henson content will always be Emmett Otter's jug band Christmas. I mean

That's a Christmas special that I watch all year. I'll watch it in July. I'll watch it in October. I don't even care. And once again, Paul Williams music. I I I

I own the soundtrack to Emmett Otter's Jug Band Christmas on four different formats. I love it that much.

So good, it really is.

Oh, it's amazing. And yes, you still get some of the co I mean you still get Kermit the Frog as the narrator.

Um, so you, you know, you're there's still some familiarity to it, but just all the new characters that they introduce, all the animals from River Bottom and Frogtown Hollow and I mean

Again, I I could talk for about an hour and a half just about Emmett Otter, about a fifty minute Christmas special, and I could

Yeah.

Exactly. So um, but I mean the Muppet movie, like I said, uh just the the first foray into the cinema for the Muppets and it's an absolute home run.

Potentially still the best Muppet movie out there. I mean, obviously, and I'm just like Gary, where I I enjoy all the newer stuff as well.

I thought the ABC series was great. And yes, the the recent special with Sabrina Carpenter. I love that too. I watched it multiple times. What's funny is that actually inch e introduced me to like pop music that I don't listen to now.

I I think they do a a weekend song on there that I had never heard before and I'm like, hey, this is pretty good. So I I sought it out and I ended up liking the song and buying the album. So I mean the Muppets are

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So the Muppets to this day are still introducing me.

It's a new

Actors, musical artists, you know, uh just people that I I I know of in passing, but as you know, as the

Movie heavy metal lover than I am, it's not exactly something that I would seek out. So kudos to the Muppets. I mean, they've been introducing me to things for over 50 years.

And I hope they continue to do it. And yes, like Gary said, if you haven't watched this movie, I mean, you just you don't like fun, you don't like heartwarming situations and good storytelling.

Um, you know, obviously if you've never watched the Muppets, maybe, you know, you're kind of aged out of that Muppet group. I mean, really seek it out. If you have access to a Disney Plus account.

Check out the show, check out the movies, and come this December, check out Muppet Christmas Carol. It's absolutely worth it. And also a Muppet Family Christmas.

Where uh I'm not I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with that Christmas special. That's the one where they brought all of Jim Henson's Muppets together. So like all the

Travel right.

Hawk guys show up, the Sesame Street Muppets show up, and then the classic Muppets also show up in one big Christmas special and it absolutely works. It's an annual watch for me. So yeah.

Like I said, I I'm gonna step away from the mic'cause like I said, I could easily harp on for another two hours about Muppet properties.

Especially the Muppet movies. So yeah. Oh, I mean, all I can say is I adore it with every ounce of every fibre of my being.

loves this movie and I hope you do too. And if you don't, hey, hit us up on the socials and let us know why. I mean, I I love when people disagree with me. I genuinely do. I want to see differing opinions. I mean if you hate the Muppets,

Hit me up on the socials. Tell me why. I would love to hear it, you know? So uh but either way, love the Muppets, love everything they've done. And the Muppet movie is an absolute ten out of ten to me. So I'm gonna shut up now.

Sure.

That's cool.

Uh, Emadado s Amidado is wonderful though. I I just um I adore it and you listen to the the s the the album they made a cover song and I think it's called the Green Album.

Yep. And I and I don't like my morning jacket, but with them them doing our world from Emin Otter is something special in my opinion. Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly. Not as special as the the one in the movie'cause that's just precious.

Oh, heartbreaking. Absolutely. Yeah.

Uh

Hold the wash tub, baby. Hold the wash tub, you know.

Ha ha ha.

Oh man, grandma's dress, man. Grandma's dress.

Uh

Ha ha ha.

I I I lie though when I said well it's probably my second thing to me and Mike me and Mike can share this, you know. Me what what a horse to go in uh out on. Um this contribution to the Ninja Ninja Turtles film, the first Ninja Turtles film is um

phenomenal before his son, you know, got family groups together, I guess, and and ruined the second one for first how that goes. All the grit that was in that first movie took take it away the second movie. I digress though. But uh his his contribution to those

to those suits in that movie is uh wonderful as well. Um

I I love this film to death. I c I can't speak any higher of it than I have before. Um the the emotional heft of it is just um it kicks me in the ass every time. Um everything about it and

I love Sabrina Carver for different reasons, but you know, her her being uh a comedic presence on the Muppet Show was um was pretty great too. Um

I'm a new fan because of it.

So so if you uh

Yeah, l like Venom said, hit us on the socials and tell us why you why you why you can't enjoy the Muppets'cause I I think there might be a maybe like a little black hole in your heart or something why you can't enjoy the Muppets. It might might be a thing. I don't even know, but uh

I'm gonna leave it at that and say to to to seal your black holes in your hearts. Um I will come back and close out the show.

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All right, folks, that's the end of this one. Uh these guys do stuff all over the place and uh I'm gonna let them pedal their wares right about now. Mr. Benham, uh I'm sure you share stuff with Mike, but uh tell us what you guys got coming up.

All right. Well, uh Mike and I uh together are on a couple of shows on the No More Room and Hell family of podcasts. Of course, there's the main show, No More Room and Hell.

uh, you know, with with with a format very similar to this one where we look at a couple of feature uh movies for reviews and then we, you know, have some discussions on news and hot topics or the burning question of the month, if you will.

Uh on our weekly show, which is uh called Fresh Cuts, we take a look at the newest releases in the horror and suspense genre.

Uh the latest episode there we looked at Lee Cronin's The Mummy and had very differing opinions on that one. So check out that episode to see.

uh to find out who loved it and who hated it. But I'll leave it I'll leave that one alone for now.

And then

Uh we also have another uh a couple more shows in the family. Um I I am also the host of No More Room in Hell presents creature comforts.

That show I do with Mr. Donna Nelly and Derek B. And that is a creature feature podcast, of course, as the title suggests. Our latest episode there is episode 48, where we looked at.

uh 1977's the food of the gods which was something that i wanted to talk about for many many moons and finally got the opportunity to talk about it since i just picked up the blu-ray recently so it that kind of helped

And then we also have another show that's on a little bit of a hiatus right now, but I'm always hoping that it'll come back. And that one, of course, is No More Room in Hell presents the Crystal Lake Gip Shop.

That podcast is an episode by episode retrospective of the original Friday the thirteenth TV series, which has nothing to do with Jason Voorhees or Crystal Lake, but

I I like the title anyway. So um we're currently on episode nine of that one. That's the latest episode where of course we looked at episode nine of the series, Friday the thirteenth, starring John LeMay and Roby.

And that's pretty much everything that we do under that banner. Obviously, you know.

Uh lots of guest spots and and different projects like that coming up, but uh the main stuff is always gonna be under the No More Room and Hell banner. So if you are interested in any of our shows.

You can just look up No More Room in Hell and all of our shows should pop up. They're all available on all your podcast catchers and even on YouTube. So yeah, check them out.

Yeah. Um shout out to a friend of ours, a friend of the show actually, uh Patrick Walsh who who does

Scream Queens where horror gets gay. If I didn't say the whole thing you'd be upset with me, okay? Uh that does a side show on his show called Curse what's it called? I'm gonna fuck this up now. Curse you uncle Lloyd or something like that it's called.

Where he does the Friday the thirteenth television show as well.

So yeah, you're not the only show in the mix there, but he is a good friend of mine. So I g I need to give him a shot uh my friend Patrick Walsh and you know, show show Boldy shows some love. He's just uh

Uh ver very uh exuberant uh gay New Yorker who's uh who's a good friend of mine. I love that guy. Um Micah Venom kinda spilled the beans there. What what you what you guys got coming on those shows?

Uh for fresh cuts we actually have to pick something off VOD this week because there isn't a theatrical release that's at least big enough for all of us to get it at our theater, so

That's a mystery so far, at least for the next episode. Uh no more room in hell.

Currently we're scheduled for Sunday and the rotation was my picks and I kind of went with a theme with all kind of with all these remakes and reboots.

um I guess new uh visions of a lot of the universal horror monsters. Um I went with kind of like bizarro

uh hybrid versions of them. So we're doing Wolf Guy and Frankenhooker on Sunday. And uh as far as all the shows we do, Venom pretty much covered it. I I will say that uh If I miss next episode or the next scheduled episode, it's cause I'm returning to the CinemaBeef podcast, which is done with the

twenty two shots guys who they they do a monthly show for vinegar syndromes monthly releases um where they

They pick one as the main feature and then each person picks their own pick and they cover'em. And I think this will be my third time on that show. I d I I I don't do it all the time because like I'm not

mine vinegar syndrome every month like they are, but uh it's it's fun. It gets me uh into like the physical media game some. So it's always a fun time. So that's recording next week.

And then other than that, pretty clear. I mean, if I have to miss the next Cinema Beef, then I'll be back on episode after.

Other than that, that pretty much covers it on my end as well.

Okay. Um no they don't they don't get they don't look the podcasters dream we get free shit from the companies like uh other po other podcasters do.

That's a good question. I don't know'cause it's It's normally I think three guys or actually four plus a guest.

Um so I don't know if one of'em gets stuff sent to them or not. Cause look, I'm not gonna lie, boutique label purchasing these days, especially four K's, it ain't cheap. Like, um

It's actually one of like the the downsides to me, like starting to pick up physical collecting again is man, they're expensive. Like sometimes not even boutique labels, sometimes just straight like studio releases on Amazon.

are seem way more expensive than they should be, but when you go to boutique labels now, it's like, damn, like, why is it so expensive? But

It'd be nice. It would definitely help.

I think our friend Dave Bailey might be getting some free share from the companies. We'll s I I never asked him about this, but you know if he does, yeah, he does his YouTube show and you know, uh check that out'cause, you know

He looks like Freddie Mercury, but he loves horror, is what I'll say about Dave Bailey, okay? He just uh he loves genre cinema. So there's that.

He doesn't like Freddie Mercury though, I'll say it all day long. God damn. Fucking beef beef cake.

Uh myself this show, uh, next show she here on this show.

I should be sure I haven't given a title to yet'cause I'm I'm I'm slow on the puns I guess. But we're gonna do the fan from nineteen eighty two, not Dare Fan to be confusing, the the the German one. Uh and pr and uh the anime film, uh Perfect Blue.

Been a long time since I watched that film. I'm looking forward to talking about it. It's well loved amongst my peers and a lot of people, so I have to check it out once again. Perfect blue. And um that'll be your next show on this show unless something else

comes before that sometimes I get froggy and say, Hey, let's go do something random but uh it happens. Uh

But brand new project, uh not for Legion. This is for another network that I forget the name of, so I'm ignorant that uh I'm ignorant that subject. Uh my friend Bill Van Vegel uh from the Land of the Creeps podcast.

invited me to come on his friends network'cause he wanted a horror podcast. So I s I looked for a uh an inspiration to do a horror only podcast, my very first one ever.

So I have enlisted uh the one the only big Bill Cast in L from the horror mafia podcast.

to join me on a show that we're calling chesticles and testicles. I mean uh no chesticles and tentacles, I'm sorry, at testicles. Uh chesticles and tentacles. There we go. Just um

For the first four episodes it's just some of the craziest sh ever watched in my life. That that I wanna wanna get into some some some crazy foreign horror and

you know, if they include chesticles or t or tentacles, uh, it's gonna be done in the show. So Uh first show we're doing is uh Lamberto Baba's Devilfish, uh which has chests and tentacles.

Um in it. So that was perfect to start with. Uh

Yeah.

And testicles actually in one shot.

Uh so that includes a a dolphin octopus shark hybrid, I think it is, in this movie.

So it has all those things. Um yeah, it was it was a lot of fun to watch and I think it gets real low score on IMDV, which is not fair in my opinion. But uh Devil Pitch is the very first episode and we're going to uh

Some cat three Hong Kong horror for the next episode, which is a title I forgot the name of, but um Very fun first four episodes coming up on that show.

And I'll get you guys all the deets when that comes out. But that records Saturday and I'm glad you said something, Mike,'cause I'm supposed to be on the show with you guys on Sunday. So I'm glad you said something about it today. Cause my brain is dead sometimes. So there's that.

For the for the wolf guy Frankenhooker thing.

Yeah, when when things start getting rescheduled, sometimes it's hard to keep up.

That's okay. I'm glad it's working out. But um this is where I'll leave this one. Thank you gentlemen for joining me, uh uh as always.

And um until next time, this has been the Cinema Beef Podcast, where if you've got beef, we've got the grinder. See you next time.

Peace.

Adios.

How about a nice greasy pork sandwich served?

Yeah, I didn't.

A dirty ash tree.