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Okay, Mitchell.

Thank you.

Mitchell Goosin at your service. Uh I'm not from around here.

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It's a consciousness razor.

Man, I'm gonna throw up.

What's consciousness? Other than that, I don't know. Give me some um Captain Crunch Berries, a couple of bean burritos, maybe an otter pop or two, and I'm a pretty happy camper. Get out of there.

I have a few things to say. Could I have something for you?

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Pretty boy Maharishi over here has been mixing a little bit of draino with his fruit punch.

Praise the Lord for bringing us this generous bounty.

Just give me all the bacon and eggs you have. Wait, wait. I worry what you just heard was give me a lot of bacon and eggs. What I said was give me a. And you have.

Hello folks, this is the Beef Podcast. Uh it's hot y'all outside in Indiana, so I guess it's an appropriate show for us to do. Uh I'm with your host, Gary Hill. Uh with me tonight is Mr. Mike Merriman. How you doing, sir?

Uh yeah, it's getting I think to ninety six here today, so it's hot as hell as well. And uh Normally, not the worst thing because we do have air conditioner, but uh I had the fun event a couple weeks ago of doing some yard work and I pulled the old classic middle-aged dad.

yard work folly of sending a rock through the sliding glass window with the weed whacker. So we currently have like a patched up panel of glass where the sliding glass door panel was.

So uh we we've been trying to use the AC sparingly, like only when it gets really hot and we were like lucky for the first week of weather, but it the past couple of days have been in the mid nineties, so it's like

We're turning it on and we're patching it. Uh actually the patchwork has worked.

Um, about as good as we could hope. So

According to the company, our new class panel will be in Monday and then I'll schedule a time to install. But that's a far cry from when the guy came out to do an estimation. Oh yeah it takes usually takes a couple of days.

for it to come in and I'm like, Yeah, we're way past a couple of days so uh If uh if the segment What Are You Beefing On returns tonight, I just kinda gave my uh answer there.

This this adult problems of Cinema Podcast people. How you doing?

Yeah.

Suzy Suze, Suzanna's here. How you doing, babe?

Oh I guess a little better now. I I have a nice ice cold alcoholic beverage in my hand. My plants are all watered. The birds are all fed.

The dogs are eating their chewis, so hopefully it'll be a quiet evening and I'm in my freezing ass cold basement even though it's it's got up to about eighty eight here today.

Yeah, it's warm.

Yeah, and I had some of those adult problems this week. My husband forgot something incredibly important.

So I had to chase down FedEx, but yes, I think we're gonna have to do what you beefing about this week because I want a bitch too.

Okay.

Yeah.

Oh boy. Um, same movie always for every show. I'll ask Mike what you've been watching lately.

Alright, so as I am trying to navigate around my cat to open my letterbox, I'll start with something I walked

today'cause it's a little more fresh in my memory without even having to look. And that's the black exploitation movie Penitentiary. Are you guys familiar with this one?

Yeah, it it's a pretty fun one. It it's it's pretty simple, like wrongly accused guy goes to prison and gets caught up in the abuse of power and all that and he ends up joining like what the prison boxing league to

kinda t uh earn his freedom, I guess as they say. Now

Apparently I know there's a a penitentiary too because it started to autoplay actually before I kinda paused everything to come record. So I might watch part two after this, but I guess apparently there's even a part three, which I didn't even know.

of so maybe I'll watch them both. I I know two is also on Prime, but I'm not sure about three. So let's see, what do I have?

after that. I watched uh out of curiosity, I I threw on a movie that I saw a fair amount of times as a kid because you'll you'll hear a lot from me. You'll probably get used to me saying this a lot, but

Well uh you well, I was growing up at the time where you were pretty much at the mercy of like what was on cable, other than like your store your trips to the video store. But uh you know, I'm talking like afternoons after school. You get home, throw your backpack down, and like you just turn on

cable or whatever and whatever's on is on. And this comedy with uh Cheech Marin from nineteen ninety called The Shrimp on the Barbie, where yeah, he's kind of a fish out of water in Australia.

and the classic scheme of like, hey, uh this girl is about to marry this real douchebag um screen legend, by the way. Uh there's there's a a handful of Aussie film screen legends in this movie. But anyway she uh

She's w she wants to marry this douchebag kind of guy, the dad uh wants no part of it, and they kinda make a deal that like, I bet you that uh

there's so much worse out there that I could do that if if I prove it then you'll let me marry him and she hires Cheech Marin who at the time I th he's working in like a Mexican restaurant in Australia and he's like of course the toast of the town and uh

I would say I I actually still kinda like this movie. I I think it's funny.

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The only problem is like the

the main type of developing romance between our two main characters, I don't think that really works at all. That's not really believable'cause like it has a typical ending where they it's implied they get together at the end, like she realized that he was

like the good the good option the whole time and like that was kinda corny but as far as the comedy itself I thought it was cool and just seeing a lot of people you recognize like at the time that this came out, I would have been only

ten, eleven. So I probably didn't even know these Australian actors were actually like pretty prominent in the Australian film scene. But watching it as an adult, I'm like, holy shit, like

these were the guys that were in this, like, wow, what a what a privilege for them to get them in there at the time. So uh bef after that, uh I watched a movie Called Savage Dawn, also on Prime.

It's a good one. It's a good one.

Yeah, great cast. A George Kennedy with a RPG. I mean, like what what more could you ask for? Uh

Okay, a a probably a more prominent, well known one. I finally just threw on the Enter the Dragon 4K. Um sometimes I get in the mood like W when you've just kinda had like a rough day and you wanna fix it with a movie, but like you don't wanna take a chance you want something comfort.

like style.

was unopen on the shelf and I was like, you know what, Bruce Lee, John Saxon, like you can't go wrong here. Um so yeah, that's

Still great and it was nice seeing it. Uh the extended version as well, which I think is only three to four more minutes, but uh never go wrong with some Bruce Lee.

Have you seen the other Jim Kelly output that he did on his own?

I mean I've seen some. Like I know he has several and'cause I don't I think Prime or Tubi or one of'em had

some of his other movies and not bad. Like he's actually pretty good as far as like just martial arts stuff.

It's pretty good. Black Belt Jones a long, long time ago.

Oh yeah.

It's got Roger Moore as the bad guy, I believe, and uh

Jim Kelly beating the shit of people and a car wash while it's while it's going. So he's like fighting amongst the suds, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Of course you have the granddaddy, uh, three the hard way, which is him

Jim Brown and um I'm referring to the third guy. Richard not not Richard Roundtree. I'll think of it l in in twenty minutes.

Basically m Mr. Big wants to poison the water supply to kill all the black people or something, so they gotta stop that plot, you know. Yeah. It's ridiculous, but I love it. Yeah.

I'll I'll finish off my rapid fire with a real piece of garbage that I watched and it's actually on Disney Plus and I'm surprised they haven't removed it in shame.

This is from nineteen seventy nine, it's called The Black Hole. And as I read it what or as I read about it, uh this is their kind of attempt to capitalize on the Star Wars uh fandom. Yeah.

And

And wow, this is I I don't know what it's like I guess that's the reason they ended up buying the Star like Star Wars because they tried it themselves and they were so bad at it that uh

They're like the only way to do it is to buy out the entire thing. And then they made the entire thing bad. So what are you what are you gonna

Right.

It that that thing is love, Michael, I'll say about that, okay.

It's right in that honey hole that was stuff that was coming out just like Star Wars though. So Star Crash was a thing and Of course Buck Rogers on TV, you know.

Oh, yeah, there's this.

There's this other one from the early eighties, I forgot the name of it, but Molly Ringwald's in it and I wanna watch it but um

Space hunter.

Space hunter.

Yep.

Yeah. I I I recently watched a video on YouTube

You know the like the there's a lot of channels that do this now, they're kind of like aggregate list videos where it's like, oh, the top ten sci fi movies that flopped or whatever and that was one of them, but it looked kinda like interesting. Like it

I'm not I'm not gonna say oh I bet it's good, but it just

Oh.

Yeah, I it it looked like has potential to be something I might dig, even though the consensus might be that it's bad.

Yeah, you know. Help me see who's the main guy in Space Hunter? Is it like Robert Conway or some shit or uh

No, no, no. It's Peter something.

Fine. Is Peter Coyote, Peter Fonda, a couple of like lesser known Peters?

Oh wow, I I just love this chat about Peters. Okay, now it's driving me nuts. I can see the guy's face. Hell, it was the only thing on in the afternoon on HBO for like summers.

Are you Suz uh Suzanne, are you suggesting a cinema v spinoff cinema Peters?

Yeah.

Thank you.

No, but Ernie Hudson shows up shows up in that and um

Peter Strauss.

I knew it was a Peter.

Yeah.

And uh Michael Aronside, the terrifying bad guy in that movie. It's it's it's pretty good, Space Hunter. I enjoy it.

Yeah, I think...

I was gonna say just from the video, it's it's I don't think the video the guy was necessarily saying they're all terrible movies, just that they commercially flopped. So there is a chance that like I might still like some of them.

I get so sick of that shit like like the um as much as I love how this get made and people that are on there.

It's like they have like research teams for this shit to find these things for them. There's no there's no real love for the movies there. They just they say, Hey, you know what? This looks like garbage, let's do it, you know.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What about you, sir? What'd you watch?

Uh well here's I don't dislike the black hole. I just don't think it's a good movie, but I don't dislike it.

It's

I just found it kinda boring.

It I think that's it, it's it's kinda got a it's got a nice look to it, but I think it's it has no plot.

Yeah. And that's it. It is extremely boring. But for some reason I don't I don't hate it.

Thank you.

The John Barry scores sticks out. That's all I'll say about that movie, you know.

Ha ha.

It's pretty good the John Barry score.

I mean it's got some stuff going for it, but it is it is very boring. But I've been kind of watching some older stuff. I watched Lenny with Dustin Hoffman, which was Really, really, really good.

And um the doc documentary front I finally caught the crash about that spoiled rotten girl who basically killed her boyfriend and his best friend. Yeah, that was a shit show.

Um I watched Primal Fear last night with Richard Gere. For some reason it was one of those movies. I I know I maybe saw it, don't remember it.

But almost a couple of articles I read, the name kept popping up. And I'm like, okay, I may as well just watch it.

Um, I watched uh some horrible ghost hunter movie on Prime, which honestly it's probably a good thing I'm forgetting the name because I would eviscerate it for just being terrible.

And there's so many of those. Every once in a while you find a diamond in the rough.

Anyway, this the ghost hunting team, they go to this other ghost hunting guy who has a list of places for'em because everything they're doing is well, there's nothing.

Come on.

And he they finally get their hands on one basically by stealing it from this guy after paying him for one of the lesser ones. And they go there. Um, of course, they find a ritual, shocking fucking surprise.

Call up the ritual, find the girl whose parents and her twin sister died. All hell breaks loose.

It's just fucking bad. It is just bad. I'm glad I forgot the name of it because it was absolutely bad. It was I don't know why. I should have stopped it.

Yeah.

But oh my god, what a piece of shits! Wow. And I'm usually kind of forgiving with ghost stuff, but this was just

Bad.

Next week I'll have the I've got a few movies lined up that I'm gonna watch.

Well, pass out of town again next week. So hopefully I'll have some better movies. Other than Lenny, which shit, amazing. Amazing.

I mean it's lucky. I have a sealed lazy disco money. I haven't I never opened it. It's it's still on the shelf. Yeah. Oh wow.

Yeah.

It is just good.

Well Lenny Bruce, right? Yeah.

Yeah, it's uh Dustin Hoffman, Valerie Perine, couple of other faces.

Yeah stuff I watched I I originally uh I I watch

the Criterion Closets um segments a lot on the social medias. I enjoy them quite a bit and John Litzko was on there and he uh inspired me to to buy a subscription to this Criterion channel. So I watched a bunch of stuff on there and uh

One thing he suggested was um the sporting life from um nineteen sixty one, I think it's a British movie. Started Richard Harris. He plays a rugby player who um As a poor guy he lives he lives uh in a in a really humble surroundings with the landlady

Sort of falls in love with the landlady and her and her two children and i it all it all surrounds around his alcoholism and him treating her not like he should and him getting injuries, basically being underappreciated on his team by by the owners and

It's uh it's really I'm really underselling this thing, but it's really enjoyable to watch and I get suggested by Mr. Litka watch. I said, Well I'm gonna she's so enthusiastic about all these movies that he's talking about, I'm gonna watch all of them.

So then the one that he suggested that he was in uh closet which I've never seen, surprisingly, don't kill me now. I've never seen blowouts before and Brian De Palma uh John

Yeah, two weeks ago.

Yeah.

It's it's it's it's fine. I I I don't I didn't love it like I should, I don't think.

I I like the idea of it, but the the problem I have with it it's like it's like two plots rolled into one. There's the the murder conspiracy with with, you know, the Senator, obviously.

And you have the John Lithgow thing who's a part of that, but they're trying to really ramp up the Celebrity Bell Killer thing. So it feels like two plots that should be two separate movies.

I d I don't know. It's really strange like that though.

I don't know, but it's De Palma. He always likes to get uh well, one or two little things woven in just to amp up the suspense.

But yeah, that's why I don't like it as much as I say shit about things, but I I like the performances in it. Um Yeah, John Travolta p post, you know, s he sat in the fever doing stuff and

You're turning quality work, Nancy Allen. Uh I love the the the mousey voice she uses in this thing. Really cutesy, you know Hooker with a heart of gold, if you will. Uh

Yeah, Lithgow's great. As um spoilers, he's your Liberty Bell killer in this movie. Yeah. And uh I love Lith Lithgow. I there's there's

A laundry list got stuff that I haven't seen that I want to check out. Uh I think the World According to Garp is on that list actually. I've never seen it.

Yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be a thing soon.

Have you seen Obsession?

Dude.

I I I watch Harriet and the Henderson's twenty five times, Suzanne. Come on now, you know.

Priorities, you know. It's the big guy. Yeah.

Uh also on the Criterion Channel, I'm gonna keep keep work I've been watching this a lot'cause I since I bought it. Um you have a spotlight on Courtney Love.

Lover or Hater, she she put some some decent acting roles in. Pers Larry Flint uh sticks out to me. Uh but I watched two hundred cigarettes for the first time ever.

Didn't realize I didn't see this. Um Lots of faces, you know, Kate Hudson, Paul Rudd, Martha Plimpton, uh Dave Chappelle, you're your only color in the whole film because this film is vanilla as fuck, okay?

Especially New Year's Eve 191. You know, you get great a great a great soundtrack sticks out of this. Now those MTV films I've never seen before. You okay?

Whoever's copping, you okay?

I'm okay now.

No, but this this is just it it's one of those you know

one nine only movies that you know, if if you like this kind of thing, if you like these actors, you might like the film. My only saving grace is that Dave Chappelle is the coolest part of the movie and he got to bet a white girl in the movie. So there's that, you know, so

At the end of the night Dave Chappelle got some because he was uh the senior love daddy of the cab, you know, doing his thing in this movie and I probably never need to watch it ever again'cause there there's better movies that do this and

I guess this is why I stayed away from it. I guess I accidentally.'Cause it's a film that came out I think in two thousand one or something like that that I should have seen.

When M T V was making movies like this and Orange County and Varsity Blue, shit like that, I I was watching these movies and

I somehow never seen this and I can't say I'm glad I did. It's it's just it's just kinda there and uh A lot of faces didn't know and a lot of I don't know.

It made me dislike Martha Plimpton and that's a kind of rule I don't like about you movie. Right there.

I don't know. Whatever. Uh anywho. Uh

Yeah.

Watch Pacific Heights today. And I talked about watching this w we did the um the other we did Hand The Rox the Cradle show and and

I I watched it for the first time ever and I thought I thought I had seen it'cause I've seen the VHS box a hundred and fifty times in the video store, but I never never actually watched it.

And this is about as dull as one of these films can get. I I just I I gave it a go. It's basically a couple buys a a San Francisco like townhouse uh apartment building and You know, they get a new tenant who's basically a squatter to the whole thing.

He's doing squatting things, you know, not answering the door and blah blah boring boring shit. Starting to shit with them in a burly put putting cockroaches in in in in their their their apartment and pissing off Mako and his wife.

And this is supposed to be a thriller, but it really leads to your y the your exposition happening and the last fifteen minutes with credits is when something really bad happens.

All right.

So

I I never rooted for somebody to to to kill the cat in the movie. But if Michael Keaton would have killed the cat in the movie, at least, you know, you would have had something. You know. I made a comment on Facebook, you know, if you want to watch a good s squatter scam movie

Go go watch the carpenter with with Wingshauser. At least he goes for it, man.

W Wings is all in that fucking kooky ass, cheesy ass fucking roll. And this is just not very good. Um

No it's not.

Uh but that's where I'll I'll leave that and I think Suzanne you you you warned me not to watch that movie too.

Yes, I did. It is f it is boring as fuck. I don't think I ever made it to the last fifteen minutes. I rented it for four days.

I'd watch it, I'd stop it. I'd watch a few more minutes, I'd stop it. Waiting and waiting and waiting. I didn't even get there. I'm like, yeah, fuck this movie.

This is a time where they should have been shining these actors, but the d these it just wasn't very good.

Terrible.

Yeah.

So I never seen it. Yeah, that's what's a very good I remember watching um uh some months back.

Unlawful entry with uh Ray Leota and Madeline Stow and I forget who the her her man is in the roof.

That's all.

Yeah.

That's just...

That should have been better too, I think, if I remember correctly.

That one was just it it could have been the a a little more menacing and it was not.

Ew man. That's where I'll leave that though. Uh you guys got beeps. Anybody else? I I know Suzanne's got one. I'll I'll let her fly with this thing. I wish she's still at the sound effect of this, but uh this is Suzanne's beep of the week.

Has anybody had to deal with FedEx before?

Uh not personally, no.

So my husband in his rush to get out the door at five thirty gets everything. He's he's a seasoned traveler. He does this all the time.

Get a phone call about four o'clock on Monday afternoon. He's like, help. And I'm like

Can't do much from here. He forgot his medication.

My husband's diabetic. He's got pills.

And I'm like, okay, yeah, let me see what I can do. And I'm like, uh use like FedEx. I'm like, all right, yeah, there's one down the road. It's four o'clock.

on Monday afternoon. It doesn't matter if you're trying to go three streets over. You got traffic.

So I get there and if I wanted to have it there by five o'clock in the neck the next morning, it would be almost three hundred dollars. Like, yeah, we're not doing that. What's my next? Uh ten a.m.

Mm, about a hundred and eighty. I'm like, okay, what's like five o'clock the next day looking like? Oh, that's a hundred and twenty. Or no, a hundred and nine. I'm like, all right, fuck it. Let's go with it.

Didn't get there until three o'clock the following day on Wednesday.

And I and I so I called and I'm like, Okay, this and like well, you know, if it it is stated that, you know, we you know, th things happen.

And there I'm like, well then I I'd I wouldn't mind a small discount on your things happening. Which of course I didn't get, but I was I I did not even get sweary with that. I was very, very I really wasn't that nice, but I wasn't that mean either.

So yeah, fuck fat axe. Fuck you people. Get your shit together. People go to you with when you are the last resort. Literally, I should have just gotten in my car and driven 12 hours. It would have gotten there quicker.

You're not shipping a big item either. You're shipping medicine, so

Yeah. It it was just his his little pill case and yeah, it was uh a hundred and nine dollars. And it started at three hundred.

I mean I get gas prices have gone up, logistics a little tougher, but don't goddamn tell me it's gonna be there at a certain time and it's not there until like almost 24 hours later.

And then tell me that you're not gonna discount anything off of it. Fuck you. I like I said, next time this happens, as long it's Grabbed my shit, got in the car and just driven it to it.

I just should've done that.

Well, you know, you you'll be learned that you uh don't deal with fucking American postal system bullshit, you know, come on now.

Oh, it was it was frustrating as hell.

And, you know, I'm worried. My my main concern when he called me and said, you know, well, it's not there yet. I'm like, the fucking what?

Yeah, exactly. It needs that.

Yeah.

And like I said, I it just pisses me off that I had absolutely no re recourse whatsoever.

So yeah, fuck you fat ex you can go suck a dick, suck many dicks, and I hope you gag.

All right.

I I feel better now.

Stuck a satellite roachers for sure. Come on now.

But speaking of some Suzanne things sucked by at least one of these films I know Suzanne is really annoyed by, but I have I have genuine love for both these films. So tonight on on this show we're talking about two films.

In which brothers who who love to skate have a little too much love for their sister. That's all I'll say about that, you know. She just had uh as a theme of this this show and we're doing thrashing from nineteen eighty six.

I I would say a low point in Meatloaf's career, so I I I'll make that comment right now.

Uh and uh uh uh Mike's got my cable staple a cable staple from me, HBO staple, I'm sure Mike feels the same. Airborne from nineteen ninety.

Three.

Yes.

Uh coming coming to your face bras, all up in your moondoggies or whatnot. But uh we're gonna get us first and go in chronological order. Do thrashing first, and we'll talk about that after the trailer.

Corey Webster is

For LA.

He lives.

Crash.

We love to compete.

But the competition

beautiful girl at the club.

Music of the Bengals.

A red hot choice.

कर दो कर दो Yeah, I'd love it.

Big bad dagger. It's just the game.

Right, Valley Boy?

You like games, bro?

Right Valley Boy?

Corey, please don't go!

Crash in. It's not a kids game anymore.

Thrash it from nineteen eighty six. Uh your cheaper plot synopsis is this.

Two skateboarding gangs battle each other for supremacy and a member of one gang falls in love with the rival sister the with the sister of of his rival.

Uh sister love in a grand.

She doesn't wear many tiny dresses in this film, which you know, does me every time. Um

Stars a very hunky Josh Brolin as just Cory Webster. Uh very hunky wrestler as Tommy Hook.

Uh Pamela Gidley as Christopher Sissy um uh Christer, Christopher.

Dr. Chrissy, there we go. I will do what I would.

Uh just you guys in order because this is this is your ramp locals right here. Uh Brooke McArthur, who you guys may know as Paul, fr from uh The Lost Boys, one of one one of the blondes, one of the Lost Boys.

Josh Richmond is Bradley. That's Bradley, not Bradley, okay.

who is better many, many things. I always saw him as as as the fake Anthony Keatis, which is amazing'cause in this film we get the real Anthony Keatus with the real chili pepper. So yes. As Bradley Um this guy, I saw his fucking face, this movie for the first time ever didn't realize who it was.

Brett Marks as Bozo. Now this guy is a legit member of the California Bears. Um he's one of the bad news bears, one of the original ones.

Um... I've seen that fucking face like this is fucking a little boy's fucking face.

And uh d David Wagner as a little steepy. Uh Chuck McCann, a legendary comedian as Sam Plood, your your your your sponsor of skaters, if you will. There's always that one guy in these movies.

And following the cast we got Sheryl and Fenn's Velvet looking very cute in this movie.

And this was a this was a year after she was Sandy and just one of the guys.

Yeah. Mac girl took her top off and stuff and that's that's fine. She not in this movie, you know, but in the in the Ray though, forget about it, you know.

She was after Chris. She said he looked like Ralph Macchio.

Yes that was the one. Yeah, she was working back in the

I remember that now.

Have we done that yet? What one of these days we're gonna do that very soon, I think. Yeah.

Well if you do I I need to be on that episode'cause that's another one that I just watched over and over.

That is the first pair of boobies I ever seen on TV. And that that's a big milestone for Geek for the BP man, okay? Come on now.

Uh Mark Munsky as as Tommy's number two monk.

in this movie. Or Ralph from the Valley, as as Rally Rat Radley would say.

And I um and this is cool because I I like I like these skating teams because

Yeah.

Should be told.

And it bad equilibrium li equilibrium as a kid and never learned how to ride a bike, let alone skate. So like watching these guys skate in real life, uh, were were was really cool to me. So 'Cause the most of the daggers consist of Tony Alba and and his uh team Alba.

Where whereas, you know, other guys were uh doubled by Mike McGill

And Steve Cavalero and stuff like that of the Bones Brigade. And um including the great Christian Hasoy a as a dagger. No his name may mean nothing to you, but if you guys sit there and watch.

the Dogtown and Z Boys documentary because Stacey Peralta was one of the guys that filmed the skating stuff in this director the skating stuff in this movie, which is why it looks so fucking amazing.

And the Bones Brigade documentaries are both on Prime. You guys know no excuse not to watch these'cause these are all both excellent. Uh you'll know all these names after you watch those documentaries, in case you aren't familiar.

But I like that about this movie quite a bit because it shows it and the way they filmed the skating and the skating itself and I'm highly impressed by that.

Plot it's a little thin, you know why there's so many all the time, but I'm gonna kick it to Mike first. Uh thoughts on thrashing, my friend.

So to me this is...

Uh Quint well I don't know about Quintessential, but this really feels like an LA movie. Like it's

They're they're out skating all around, you see like different familiar landscapes. I mean if you're if you're familiar with Southern California or LA or Hollywood, even if you're just familiar with it from like what's been shown on

on screen in other movies, um, you have like the big, large highways. And that and th that was something I was gonna get into uh because both this and Airborne kinda have like our big skate race finale and I think

There's a contrast between them. They're both good. And it's kind of comes down to preference because I would say because this one is.

in LA, you kinda have like the wide open hide highway cityscapes where airborne, because of where that takes place, I think Cincinnati, or at least the film version of Cincinnati.

Yeah.

It's it's kind of like more small town contained and I think they're both done in such a cool way, but I'll leave Airborne for a little while. But uh yeah, th this cast, lots of young upcoming talent, the hunky boys.

Attractive girls. Uh it has everything you would expect in an LA movie. I don't know.

Why

specifically they're even rival gangs because it feels like they they're kind of indistinguishable and they should always be friends and hang out. Now we do kind of get our coming of age love tr well not a love triangle, but a love tryst where uh oh he he is

falling for the girl of the rival gang and that's always going to uh create an issue. Um and uh the fact that red hot chili peppers are in it is

is really cool. Um, I I do not have any idea that they appeared in this movie because this this is actually a first time watch for me.

When they were younger when they were younger relevant, Mike. Come on now. Yeah.

Yeah, I think this had like their original lineup in it or at least one of the

Hillel was still alive.

Yeah, yeah. Um and you could yeah, you could tell just by like the performance.

in the movie that really looked I uh they d uh there was just that Netflix documentary, uh, The Rise of Red Hot Chili Peppers that covers that era specifically when Hello

was in it and it was it was pretty cool, of obviously tragic at the same time, but it was nice to see like how they kinda got their start and like what they were like as a band back then. Um, Robert Russler, he's

It's funny because the I I first got to know who he was, I think, through Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and then and Weird Science. And then the more I end up seeing from like this era of film, it's like, oh, he was actually in like quite a bit of stuff.

And uh he's good. And like the ladies love him, understandably so. Um Sherylon Flynn, just a knockout gorgeous babe, like in in anything she's in, always

Nice to see her. Um and yeah, I I think those movies

It it's fun. It it's kind of like I think Gary already alluded to or just said outright, it's kind of like without much of a plot necessarily. It's like guy falls in love with girl.

Older brother says that's a no no, and that kind of drives, I guess, the the plot, and it culminates in uh a big huge s downhill skate competition to like prove the manhood and who's the best and

He uh respect is earned by the end of the movie and then immediately the credits roll and that's basically thrashing. Uh I had a fun time with it. Um

Probably something if I would have seen when I was younger, I could have seen myself like watching it because it's kind of a easy it's easy watch. Like there's

There's not too much going on. Um easy to get through. About a ninety minute movie and uh some it's a it's a good movie for the youth.

coming up growing up in LA. So uh yeah, I'll leave it at that. Had a fun time with thrashing.

just didn't really hit me. I mean it the best part of the movie was the chili peppers and seeing them, but it was at least my understanding, it was just a straight up LA story.

It just seems at that point in time, 86, I was kind of beyond this. I was maybe 14 and I had already decided that horror was my beloved genre and everything else sucked.

And this was a first time watch. It I I think I remember seeing it on, and I would rather go outside and read a book than watch.

I will admit th I did love watching the skating. It was basically a skate movie.

with a little bit of a plot thrown around.

And the the dude from Radley, he was one of the guys in River's Edge too.

That's when I first saw his face. I'm like, that either looks that's either Anthony Keatis at thirteen or the dude from River's Edge.

Yeah. That guy shows up in a lot of things though, but he's always like that that he looks like fake Anthony Keatus though.

Yeah, he does. He does look like low red Anthony Keatus.

Yeah, it just for me, I think it was just a lot of it at this point in time, I was just so not into things like this.

Skateboarding wasn't really huge where I lived. There are like maybe a few guys that would sit and work on their BMX bikes, but

No, by that point we're all sneaking out and doing shit we shouldn't be doing. A few little points I want to talk about. Velvet, Sherolyn Fenn's character, has a horrible fucking friend.

She's just not a good fucking friend to poor Chrissy. Oh no, she's gone. If he'd looked up, he would have seen her. But you know, love, you're a dumbass.

It just the look, this feel, it just smelled like the mid eighties. I give it like I said, I'll give it a little credit for that. Like I said, the a lot of this is it's just not my thing.

But sometimes I'm surprised by things that I watch and I aren't really my thing, but I come out with a little enjoyment. But we do have to talk about the horrible sex song.

And I looked it up and I can't remember because it meant so little to me. Oh my god, what a horrible song!

It's a horrible love making too, because she was doing all the goddamn port play. Come on now, you know.

Oh I know. He just dude, what the Oh God.

But I mean it it definitely does have a a look and a style to it. And I know at that time, you know, skateboarding was just massive on the West Coast.

So I mean it was there are parts of I don't I don't hate the movie.

It's just kinda not one of those I was alive at that point in time.

And I've read most of the clothes, I'm like, yeah, I think I had those glasses. I think I had that shirt. Oh look, there's a Vision Streetwear shirt that I picked up somewhere.

And

Like I said, I know Hook came around, but he's a sore loser in this movie. The whole rival thing and then they burnt here's the horrible thing that happened in that movie that actually made me feel kind of bad. They burnt down the ranks.

Because you lost.

And then he he got revenge, he broke the guy's arm anyway. And then they burned the ramp down. The ramp didn't do anything to them. My God, really are ya that patty?

But it's I guess it's one of those things it's I call it's like a little slice of time. A certain point in time and it really embodies that.

That's kinda where I sit on thrashing. Oh yeah, the uh one other thing.

I really liked Robert Russler and Vamp.

That's spelling other spelling got like three plots. I y I I like Vamp, I I don't I don't love Vamp to look a shit at him.

I love Amph.

Grace Jones though said it's that, you know.

감사합니다.

Yeah, baby.

Uh yeah, me and this film, I I I'm close to it.

My cousin Joey and his friends, they were that those annoying people, his punk rock friends that would hang out my grandmother's cul-de-sac and build shitty ramps to skate off of and so I knew

I knew most of these guys in this movie and they weren't no ramp locals, they they were they were straight up, you know, daggers, th that type of people and This is why I have a kinship to this kind of movie because I kinda knew those guys a little bit, you know, but

I mentioned to Mike, I wish Venom could be here for this'cause one thing that really shines this really shines this film is is the California locations. I and Mike probably identified these better than I could ever do, but you know, you get

I imagine real Venice Beach in there, you know, in certain points of the film and

Yeah. Downtown stuff, you know, I'm I imagine all kinds of locations that y they they have listed here on IMDb, but I'm not gonna go into all that.

Yeah, I mean there's some like familiar stuff for me. I'm I'm more of a NorCal kid, but Venom is actually very close to like the area where a bunch of this stuff

uh was filmed. Um so yeah, he would probably be like pointing it out with great detail very easily.

Yep. But you know, it is what it is. It's it's it's that kind of movie they made.

They made twenty of these movies in the eighties at least. You know, about, you know, arrivals for no reason. And this this case, you know. These were the guys from over the hill, these are the guys from the valley and

N never the the the the twix the ramp locals slash daggers to she shaver cross and

They they they were uh you can tell they're they're ones, you know friendly but not friendly anymore, obviously. Uh Tommy Hook, uh the great rebel wrestler. Um I will say that If you know if you know if if you talk to him, you talk to you about this kind of stuff I have before uh in person and he

He is deep into the skating world and the surfing world and he was friends with Jay Adams and was real broken up when he passed away and um again watched Dogtown and Z Boys or even Lords of Dogtown. You can watch that movie and

It'll give you a lot of that story in that movie. Um I I like him as I like him as Tommy Hook, you know, for through most of it and e we get into the silly stuff like like the Jouse scene, which is ridiculous, where he basically

They s they they joust like you would on a horseback but they do it on skateboards with I I'd imagine I don't know what's in these leather sacks that they're swinging at each other. I couldn't tell you what's in there but

It's it's meant to knock the other guy off of their board, obviously. So it works, but it's just regularly stupid to watch. Um

Mm-hmm.

Go for it, Sue.

I'm fine. Now I My allergies were starting to kick in. I think I'm a little overdue for my allergy pill.

I thought you wanted to say something, I'm sorry.

No, no, no, I'm sorry. No, I'm I thought I hit my mute button and I didn't just like I said, allergies, they suck.

That's okay.

Uh one thing Suzanne didn't measure I'm surprised she didn't is beside besides the the the sex montage song in this movie, it has a pretty decent soundtrack past that.

Devo, um...

Great use of that's good in this movie, I gotta say, with but uh the ramp locals doing their thing on the on their on their their their their then fully formed ramp, you know.

Um Circle Jerks uh shows up a show up in this uh uh scene and um the Bengals have a great song on this.

And of course uh Chili Peppers at at their crazy club where you can skate on dance floor, uh show up at this in person, uh to play Black Eye Blonde for the people and I love that two minutes of film because

Like Mike said, you get that that look of them that you did not know if you are a fan of them now, you see Anthony Keith with that stupid fucking mustache.

But back in these days they were a lot of fun to watch. And you remember that once upon a time they were a lot of fun to watch. And uh I appreciate that them showing up in this, um for that reason.

It's kinda like with the smithery shop of class in Newcomb High. It's it's it's like it's like a breath of fresh air when it happens.

But no, I really I really did this movie a as far as it as far as the type of film there is like this, that there are worse ones than this.

Uh

So saying that, you know, this the skating stuff, right again, directed by Stacey Peralta.

Looks really great that them riding through the city and you know the the great uh shots uh you know aerial shots of the ramps and

It just all looks good. Um Josh Broolin this I was wearing too many too much clothes in the Goonies, so he said, you know what? I'm gonna go shirtless through most of this movie and you know what? It's a good look for him, okay? He's he's a pretty hunky dude in this movie.

Chrissy, uh Pamela Gilly, she didn't do a whole lot past this, uh but she was she was fine as as Tommy's little sister for from Indiana who wanted to who wanted a taste of Cory Webster and she got it, which was she know.

The whole thing they were fighting over was like the love he had for his sister. But they had already fucked at that point, so it really didn't matter the fight'cause he he already got a piece of that and you know, so Go Corey.

You're the man kind of you're just really exhausted during that sex scene, so it wasn't too c it wasn't too convincing. So if I had to pick a weak part about this movie It was the fact that your hero is a really lousy uh really lousy love making, so there's that, you know.

We had good times.

It's hard to say, you know, hey, this is prestige cinema, but you know what, for the kind of film it is, I'd say it is as far as you know, skating film goes, there are there are worse things and We haven't touched Prayer of the Roller Boys yet, but one day, mister Hayman

We'll uh we'll we'll touch Prayer of the Roller Boys and tell'ho bad that movie is. So

You can pair it with Gleam in the Cube.

We did that we did it a while ago actually.

Yeah, I I like that one too. But yeah.

We're skipping that one.

Oh you're a sad person, Suzanne. Come on now. Oh I know.

I suck.

Ha ha ha.

Mm-hmm.

Oh I guess. But I'll I'll kick at the mic for final thoughts, my friend.

Um I would kinda like categorize it like Gary has. I mean, if you're into like these eighties.

Skate LA culture movies, you're probably gonna like this one to varying degrees, where it kind of lands in your rankings.

Who knows? Um, it's it's light on plot but heavy on skating, and you get to see a lot of LA. So I guess if you're not If you're not from the air area and you wanna get somewhat of an idea of what LA looks out like outside of just the beaches, I mean we get plenty of skating on roads and landmarks.

in this so check it out for that reason. And the cast is is really good. Roland and Rustler uh along with the supporting cast are make it worth seeing. Um just, you know, don't expect

Cinematic art here, but it's it's a LA skater movie. So if that's uh what you're in the mood for, throw it on.

Thank you.

Suzanne

I like I said, I l I really appreciated the skating. And like I said, I I've recognized so many of the names and

the the visuals were amazing. I mean I really I can't take anything away from that. I did make a note about the music, but then I got hung up on that really awful sex music song that was just

awful and I just I think my brain just shut off music at that point. So I didn't have to hear that song again.

But yeah, I'm gonna have to go and recheck the songs that were on it because a big fan of a couple of those bands.

It is I mean it is one of those movies that it is what it is. For me, like I said, it's uh for me a little slice of time.

It is like a little bit of LA.

skate culture in the mid eighties. It's it's really kind of amazing to see.

because I've things have changed so much since then. So it was I found that I f I found the visuals incredibly interesting. Yes, Josh Roland was ultra hot. And my other thought

I they have to be step si step brother and stepsister because there's no way those two are related or one of them is adopted.

Possibly. You know

But it's it's not terrible.

not one of those things that I've really am into. But I didn't I did enjoy watching the skating. So it's that was very cool. Like skateboarding, totally watch this. It was really wild.

No, it's nice, that's No, I I guess I have my book closest to this movie and um it's not one that I watched with w with my cousin but

I watched because my my love for Skateboard which came which came from him. He he he but he was him him was good at that. He he was decent at uh

I remember my my my cousin's friend s Jeffrey was a guy who I only seen wear slack suspenders in a in a mohawk. He never wore a shirt.

Unfortunately my my cousin Joey passed away. He he he wore a shirt to his funeral which uh which blew my mind. But those are the the kind of folks that you know would would would hang out hang out with him and

So the whole idea of the daggers, you know, just kinda being the being close like that and do it doing

It they only had that one shitty ramp, which which which took me back too. They only had that like that one up the wall ramp thing to d to to practice on, I guess, you know, and yeah.

But yeah, it's it's it's it's good. I I I would recommend if everybody wants to watch this kind of movie. If you're not in this kind of movie you might think it's really fucking stupid and I I I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but at the same time Go get some joy in your life.

But not like that sex montage,'cause you know n pr pro tip honey, okay, little sister.

When you're gonna do the kissing up the chest thing, it helps when the shirt's open. It it really sells the the the sex montage if the shirt is open, you know. But yeah. She she didn't do that either, so

Neither one were doing their job. I'm sure it was a lousy lay for on both sides, but um

a decent film, uh to to me. Uh I'm prime right now, but the soundtrack doesn't have a s uh an official release, so you know, with all these

boutique labels out there, maybe one day we'll get a special edition colored vinyl of the thrash and soundtrack and I'll be I'll be first in line to to purchase that thing, you know.

Um moving on though, um to to to the nineteen nineties now, the early nineties.

Uh yeah, we're gonna get into it now. After after the break, we're doing Airborne from nineteen ninety-three after the trailer.

Let me tell you what styling is.

Perfect session. A-frame wave, ground swell.

Three sixty without a bounce. I call it three.

you dream.

Yeah. In Cincinnati

think it's wild, right? We're just so excited about half-

and then you're here. Slow down a little bit, Wiley.

Tenant two.

What I know you're from

He used to

They're an interesting thing.

I could.

It's possible.

sleep and I like Nintendo.

Mitchell to feel right at home.

And if it wasn't

No reason to stay.

Man, I'm gonna throw up.

Sand. And sir.

have been put on ice.

See you in school.

where no one understands him.

I need tra- Smog heat waves.

He'd become a hero.

What he does best.

To a little skating race.

race to win.

Over the time.

We're born.

Airborne nineteen ninety three, uh an HBO staple, people I watch this tons, so I'm I I have way too much love for it, let you know it's a spoiler right now.

A California born and raised surfer. Mitchell Goosen has to spend six months in Ohio while learning the hard way. Love is where the heart is. Who wrote this shit? I don't even know.

Who wrote that shit? Half it's right, the rest of his fucking horse shit. Uh Shay McDermott, uh as Mr. Goose and uh Seth Green done many things b before and after this, as as Wiley as cousin

Uh Brittany Powell as our as our love interest. Uh Nikki.

Uh Chris Conrad is Jack, her brother.

Uh the great Edie McClure as as Aunt Irene uh Patrick O' Patrick O'Brien who's um I recognize him from many things.

I couldn't tell you what those things are, but he plays uh uh Uncle Lewis in this movie. Um the now more prominent Jack Black is Augie.

A lot of a lot of Ubek who was in this in many things in the nineties.

And still is working heavily today, apparently, as a voice actress. And she was just in the last season of Euphoria, apparently. But she was all over the 90s. She was in this.

Sister Act two.

Uh Renaissance Man. One day we'll do Renaissance Man. I enjoy the the fuck out of that movie actually. I I watch it like t like three times a year. I can't explain myself.

Yeah, this girl shows up many things and she's still working today, which I'm grateful for. Um

Uh not not not m Michael Pena. Jacob Vargas as Snake. We kept up with Michael Pena and I I cause I could for all day long

that the only Mexican kid in in the city of Cincinnati was played by Michael Pena, but it's not. It's Jacob Vargas who shows up at stuff like next Friday and you know the guy's fucking face. He's been in many, many things playing that Latin character.

But um yeah. Uh Owen Owen Stadell as Blaine, the leader of the Sochis.

Um, the socias or whatever the fuck they call themselves.

Um I dig this film. I'm gonna kick it to Suzanne first. I'm I'm curious curious what her thoughts are about this movie. As as uh Kiki D once said, Don't go breaking my heart, okay? You know and Suzanne's gonna try, I'll tell you right now.

Uh I'm I'm I I will be gentle.

S. Go for it, that's okay.

Well, honestly, I I watched this one last night. I really, to be honest, I went into this completely cold. I had absolutely no idea what the movie was about. I knew it featured something that had to do with wheels on feet.

So kinda rolled with it. Was really

shocked to see uh an incredibly young Jack Black. I gotta admit there's there was a few up and comers in this and of course you could never go wrong with Seth.

I have to admit, I saw the plot coming and I s it I did hit a point where if he said bra one more time, I was gonna start screaming, but I didn't because my mother was asleep.

But you know, I'll start off by saying this. His parents fucking suck.

My God, you know, you can actually one of my friends went to Australia, uh they they had family there, they had it two months there, she went to school there while they were gone.

He could have gone to school while they studied wombats. All right. So that was really, really, really shitty of them. And the other bugaboo I have at that little bit right there. Who took care of the dog?

Did anybody else question this? I question this. Who's taking care of the dog? All right, anyway.

I would hope that Mitchell would have brought the dog with him, you know, but it didn't happen, you know.

And I mean, this is so very much, once again, a product of the early nineties. You know, I was already out of I was

Oh God, how old was I? Well let's not count that.

But I just the lingo that they were using, once again, this was that point in time where I'm out of high school and I just glared at everybody. So

And the windbreakers in this are amazing. There is not a wind that could penetrate all of the windbreakers in this movie. That was very cool. But it once again, it's one of these, I found it to be a little bit more of a slice in time.

I well it's once again, it's a high school movie. It's cute.

It it it really is cute.

and you know I'm I kinda I let me try to like I've there I've got like three thoughts fighting with each other in my head.

It's a high school movie, fish out of water story. And You know, he's he's kinda trying.

To w yeah, but he he's just not a a fighter and then of course the girl comes in and it's that of course it's the bully's sister.

You know, I think from here on out, if I watch anything else in this vein, I'd be like, come on, bro, just ask around, find out who her family is. Is she an only child? Does she have siblings? Who are those siblings? And is he the biggest bully at the school?

These are things you need to know.

But w another thing I liked about this movie was the same thing. I lived in Cincinnati very, very briefly.

And there is one section that's literally on a hill and I cannot r remember the name of the neighborhood. And it really looks like it was shot there.

But I loved I will admit I love the choreography with their big race, the devil's backbone.

I uh there this one it it it's

It's it's it's a charmer. It's once again, it's still not really my thing. I'm glad I watched it. There were a lot of things I enjoyed about it. It was it definitely leaned into the comedy, and I think we can thank Seth Green for that.

Uh, the soundtrack really wasn't much of one, except Stuart Copeland did the did the music in it, which I thought was kind of interesting.

Um the I'm too sexy Seth. It's usually a girl who's doing this and going through 50 outfits. No, I kind of like the fact that they flipped the script and it was Seth Green trying on different lines.

It's fun. It's it's rollerblades. I remember when I found out Pat had a pair of rollerblades and I I I just kind of rolled my eyes, but what you just

skate around the park and try to pick up chicks. What the fuck?

I it is the the choreography was really really good just like in thrashing but I think it was there's a lot more skill involved there.

just with the way things were shot in that movie. This one I still think they did a damn good job with. And it it w it was good. It was just it was just kind of A very, very, very PG.

It was

It it's not a bad movie once again. It's a charming little high school movie.

Some really intense skating scenes which I really enjoyed and everybody just hugs it out at the end. You know, you have your happy ending, but I'm still kind of mad about the dog.

And like I said, this one, it just, it was kind of weird. It just didn't really leave very much of an impression on me. I watched it, it was over the end. Then I wrote some notes down.

But all in all, not a horrible, horrible little movie. You could do a lot worse than this one. So yeah, that's pretty much my take on it.

Cool. Yeah, the d the doggo, you know

I it it irritated me throughout the entire movie.

It's not like Siski's dog is like by go going with like while he's fighting Nazis. Come on, sir.

Yeah.

You put the rocket on the dog, it's like this fucking dog better fucking live, man. Yeah.

He's just he's just in California, that's all. Come on, bruh.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh, Watch this, sir.

Yeah, so watching these kind of back to back originally, um You see kind of some of the similarities like the fish out of water story, except this one's like the big city kid going to the small town.

And none of them thinking he's hot shit at all. So he brings kind of like that laid back California

surfer dude attitude or skater dude attitude either one. And it's interesting'cause these guy like this movie starts with them being kind of more like ice hockey and then it kinda like transitions into

roller blading, field hockey, whatever you uh you would call it. Um

I watched this movie a ton growing up. Now this it because of my specific age and age group, this kind of falls more in line of like my years. I would have been like an early teen.

when this came out where thrashing, you know, I would have been like a little kid. So the culture, I guess, like the teenager pop culture stuff, this is more in line of kind of my youth, you know, Jack Black

I I think it yeah, this time I don't know how known Jack Black was, but I remember seeing him in this and then like as he started to get like bigger, I was like, Holy shit, it's that guy from Airborne. Um Seth Green also

I don't know how much Seth Green I'd done. I know he would he starred in like the anti smoking commercials a lot.

Uh when I was like younger and then all of a sudden I saw him in this movie. Um someone else that is amazing uh she she

She kinda has a smaller part somewhat in in this movie. Um what's her name? She is let I got it right here.

Great character actress. Uh she's she kinda is hilarious in everything. I know she was Beekman's assistant in Beekman's world. She was kind of like the hilariously angry waitress in waiting. Um she She's been in so much different things.

Oh my God. That's w how I recognized her.

Yeah. Cause I remember w when I saw this movie the first time or the first couple of times on cable, I always knew she looked familiar and I couldn't quite place her. But then I Beatman's World Which for those not familiar with Beakman's world, it's kinda like a n like a

kookier version of uh Mr or not Mr. Wizard, uh uh wh who's the guy? Bill Nye. Bill Nye the Science Guy. It's a similar show, kind of like a like a half hour

a little bit of comedy in uh uh Bill and I but Beekman's world was kinda like more comedic in its presentation, but it was like a legitimate science like experiment show and she w she played his assistants.

You know what throws me off?'Cause it's I'm not saying she was fat, but she was like she had like

She was a little chubby in the face. A lot more than

She is now. She's like skinny as a wave now, but you know, but back then she

Like a normal person.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, like a cute you know, kinda kinda cute like

Like chubby cheeks like grandma cheeks, you know. It's it's kinda weird to explain without insulting a female, you know.

Yeah, exactly. Um But yeah, this movie...

It was a mainstay on my T V. I just uh

It was a easy story to identify with when you're at that age. You you kind of uh you even if you're not moving to a new town, let's just say you're going from like junior high to high school.

where like you went from like knowing everyone in junior high to now it's like you know a lot less people. Uh so you kinda feel like you're starting over in that fish out of water trying to make friends and

Try not to do the wrong thing to screw up and ruin it for yourself. And then eventually you tend to win people over just

you know, when people get to know you more. Uh this one has like kind of a similar like love interest conflict where uh he starts

I I don't even know if I would consider it dating. They just kinda are seeing each other hanging out with the sister of like

I guess he starts out as the big bad, but then we get introduced to the preps with their big bad and I think like he's even more of a big bad. Um now this one to me I I think like why these two groups are rivals is a little more

like uh clear cut and it's like a classic trope. It's the preps versus like the working class kids. And like we're tired of getting put down and treated like we're nothing.

just because like we don't come from as much like wealth and privilege as the preps. So um eventually they uh you know Mitchell

He he kinda makes a fool of himself at first, but then he makes up for it by pantsing the dude and then oh yeah, we want to be Mitchell's friend now. We've we got it all wrong. And then

we're gonna have a big race down devil's backbone. And of course Seth Green being a local to quote unquote Cincinnati, he knows what it's all about.

And uh I gotta say I was a big fan of like the way they shot the Devil's Backbone race. It's something that made me wanna watch the movie like every time it was on, even if like it was halfway through it, I just

I always thought it was just cool. It kinda small town. It almost had like a Goonies town feel to it when they're when they're skating around. Just uh

Yeah, totally the story for sure.

Yeah, it it it's very opposite of uh thrasher in the way where thrasher is like big expansive like LA highways and streets.

Where this one it's like half of it's going through neighborhoods and uh they're always i in danger of getting hit by cars like every other every other turn. Uh guys are just flying off to the side.

Seth Green character has no business uh his name is Wiley. He has no business doing devil's backbone but

He he wants to be part of the group, so he gets into it anyway. And of course the ending's like somewhat predictable. The the good guy wins and he kind of makes amends with

Protagon or antagonist one. He earns the respect. He gets the girl. But what's kinda cool is Wiley gets uh Gloria as well. She she's kinda won over, I guess, by his like will

to try to do things anyway, I I guess. I mean, it's not super clear why she decided to go for Seth Green's Wiley, but what we can do. We get uh we get your classic I uh uh I I'm trying to like glam myself up by trying on outfit scene with with Wiley.

Set to the beautiful music of Wright said Fred's on Too Sexy, very nineties time capsule like soundtrack. Um uh

Edie McClure as Aunt Irene, she was classic for this era. She I think she like was around as sitcom moms, movie moms.

Uh I mean her she started doing this, I know at least as far back in the eighties. I she I believe she was in Ferris Bueller, like the secretary of the school.

Yeah, I mean you she plays this type of role so well and in so many different things. Um

Well she was the mom on the she you know she was Mrs. Poole, the neighbor on Hogan family. I think she was the the mom neighbor on Small Wonder if I remember that correctly. My brain hurts right now thinking about that, but

I believe so, because one of those sitcoms, I just remember her all the time going like no no no no no no no no and it might have been small wonder. I just c I can't say for sure, but it's definitely in that era, so it's a good chance.

Yeah, for the record I I know the small wonder is terrible, but I watched a lot of it. I can't tell you why. It just it just was something that was on TV, you know.

You know what? Summer vacation, I woke up for that block of program and it was like Small Wonder, Out of This World, Silver Spoons and Mr. Belvedere, like that two hour block.

Ooh, that's good shit.

That is like sitcom gold.

It it was like the like the young adult sitcom gold that the only reason I wasn't sleeping in longer is cause I actually wanted to wake up to watch those shows.

Somewhere at the facts of life and just the ten of his reruns were were filtered in somewhere there too.

Probably on the US C network.

I think she was even in the voice. Remember Louie Anderson's cartoon? I think she Cats lick the butter.

Yeah, it's little to butter, man. I love life with the so much. It's so ridiculous. I love it though.

It was such I okay, my adult ass who went out on Friday nights, would wake up to go watch life would look

Life with Louie and Bobby's world, man.

Oh man.

Yeah.

Now it's it's taken me back.

Take me back. How how how how can we get back there, Gary?

I don't know, man. You know.

That's a that's that's kind of like the the blessing and the curse of like being able to retain memories for so long. It's like

You love that you can remember it, but then you're like man time only goes in one direction like there is no going back to like that period of life. But uh

Oh I know.

go back in time just for an hour.

That's all I'm asking for is an hour.

Yeah, just let me like experience the yeah.

Like for yeah, just a little bit all over again.

Yeah.

But uh yeah, so uh it's funny because I've uh it's rated um

It has a pretty decent rating on IMDB, six point three. Cause I I always kind of wondered is this

Is this a case where this just happens to be something I saw on cable, watched it a ton, so in my own mind it's like better than it really is, but it seems like people who are familiar with it tend to like it. Now I totally understand if people don't like it as much as I do because

I'm one of those people that fully admits sometimes nostalgia does play a part in like how much you like something. So for me, like airborne, I d

when I talk to people about her or if they remember it, I do not expect people to have like this fond memory and place in their heart for this movie. But for me personally, it's just one of those ones where it

it hit for me growing up and I've always kind of maintained this love for it through the years and the fact that it did star some people that it went on to bigger careers, it is kind of cool every once in a while going back and watching it.

seeing what they were like when they were kinda younger and starting out and like how how they got their their breaks in the business. So

Total winner of a movie for me. Um you can hold me to it. So airborne, I fully endorse, big fan, and I'll leave it at that.

Man, you know Mrs. first mistake was though?

He was all over like Jack's girlfriend and Jack's sister, but the redhead was clearly wed for Mitchell, okay? She she was she was all set.

She's primely ready. She she had there's that fantasy scene where they're looking at him. He's got no shirt on. He's in like the the serpent togs and with the sunglasses.

That that girl wanted a piece of Mitchell, so if he would have just went for that, I think, uh Yeah.

He he could've won him over to begin with if he just

W when for when for the unattached redhead who wanted to have sex with him, you know,'cause she she w she was uh

She's just primed and ready to go, man. Yeah. No but like you you mentioned the the devil's backbone stuff, you know, the the the technical stuff in this film

I'm not as familiar with Team Rollerblade as I am with with with uh team uh uh Team Alba or the Bones Brigade and those guys. But, you know, I'm sure they had a lot of tutelage and

Yeah, in the stunts uh that happened in this film. It guy i it all it all looks good on screen.

As far as that goes. You know, but the the plot like you mentioned, I wouldn't call it paper thin. I l I love the Bish Out of Water stuff and

Yeah, the second montage you get in this film, the I'm too sexy thing, that's how you know it's nineteen ninety three, but the second time you know it's nineteen ninety three.

is the botanical garden montage where he's chasing her and the with skates on.

Okay, yeah.

And Jeremy Jordan starts pumping out of that movie and you know what?

I I had to look it up to see if it was Joey Lawrence, but I was wrong. It was not Joey Lawrence, it was Jeremy Jordan.

And um that's how you do it was nineteen ninety three,'cause that that song came on and you know what you were kinda grooving a little bit'cause you can remember like that shit I think I wanna say

And Jeremy Jordan, it might have been this track. Was on the nine oh two and oh soundtrack?

And my sister welcomed that and she wore it out uh along with Lury Bad that was on that thing. I forget what

Wait, what's the name of it?

The the they had a Beverly Hills now two and our soundtrack.

No, I meant the song.

Oh.

Oh.

Um see now I got two Lawrence in my head.

Um my love is good enough up I think it's called. Yeah, that's that's it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

was on the radio crazy in uh

Another one that feels like a time capsule for this era that like

I I just laughed at when it kicked on it is right on the tip of my tongue. When that when that came out, I was just laughing.

It's just that montage song, come on now, you know.

Yeah.

Like, oh fuck, nobody likes me now. I guess they don't, you know, but uh

No, but I I I like this a bit quite a bit. It it kinda carries over from when I was a kid, like Mike and it it it still it still sticks in my cross, something I really enjoy and I've watched this

many times since it's been off of HBO and went out of print and I think the Warner Archive put out a D V D of this or something and I bought it like when it first came out. I was I was I was all over it and

I think um the whole idea of, you know, Mitchell, you know, kinda being subdued ca kinda comes together where he describes the story to Wiley wa uh of how he used to be a dick, describing, you know

Him fighting over a wave with this with this much younger kid and you know, that that that that helps in that character why he's so freaking cool, breezy, blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's a real small thing, but I appreciate that being in there.

Um Seth Green as Wiley um a real highlight of this movie because he's just He's just that guy who's you know he's full of shit, but you can't help but love him, you know.

His dad drives his amboni, which is, you know, something he he brags about and that's cool. You know

H his dad, he's uh

I I remember I think he was Mr. Dewey in Save by the Bill. Yeah.

He's in a bunch of shit. I just couldn't tell you what those things are. It's just one of those things, you know.

Yeah, he he he's a classic oh I know that guy from something type of character

They're so fucking cute together, him and E. McClerg, to the point that we're where I I forget what happens, but she she describes

I I I think when they're gonna go out that she wants to get frisky with the old man and I'm I'm I'm down with that man. Go go go have some old person sex, Edie McClerg and the sky, you know.

Yeah, and I I love uh when like the the group come over to see Mitchell and the and she sees him and she's like, You guys want Kool-Aid?

She said.

And

She says we're gonna go bake something. He's like, I I I let let's go like how it's so good.

That that that that is a couple where where they call each other mother and father, I can tell you right now. I've I've been I breaded on sausage and the guy, you know.

The wife will say something, I'll say, All right, mother, I'm coming right now, you know. And um yes indeed.

But yeah, the the the part where Wiley went over Gloria was where where they had the the confrontation with with the with the preps and when they're going to get something to eat.

And Wiley, you know, steps up while fucking Mitchell bitched out. So I think like Gloria got a little wet for Wiley right there. So she she was all over after that'cause uh

He gets the grill in the end, which makes you happy. So there there's that and

But yeah, but still he should have just stepped up there. Come on. It's you

Show some balls. Come on. But like it's that little Wiley. Wiley knew he was gonna get his ass kicked.

He was getting after it while he was and I'm I I uh

Again, I I appreciate his confidence. It's one thing I appreciate about Wiley. It's his confidence in this movie. And he's great and I've enjoyed Seth Green for a long, long time. I've

First thing I recognized him and and recognized it was him later was uh Can't Find Me Love. He plays Patrick Dempsey's little brother in that movie and I wanna say my stepmot my stepmother's an alien.

Was my mother one of my mother's favorites and he shows up in that too is uh

Baby baby face Allison Hannigan's l l little boy toy in that movie. Um But I think it's

This is good. Like I said, the skating is showcased so well in both these films that you know i i it makes you want to watch that that lace r that last race. You'd be able to watch the rest of it like like Mike said. It's it's it's uh

It's that enjoyable. And um It's it's so nineties it hurts.

But not necessarily in a bad way. But i again it it feels like nineteen ninety three through a lot of these films. The the the lingo, the way the kids act in the film, the way they talk to each other.

The way we used to talk to each other where we were that stupid fucking time, you know, because uh

I'm not saying it's it's the realest dialogue you're ever gonna hear, but you know what? It it matches.

So I'll give'em that that it matches, you know, the way we're talking to each other. And uh but no nothing nothing but love for this film. I I I can't

It gets one of those one of those wholesome things we talked about Roust about. You know, it's one of those wholesome things where I can go in, I can watch it.

Like I watched it when I was fucking 12, and I can still really enjoy it when I'm fucking 45. So that says a lot about.

the legacy of Airborne and the people that that say that talk to that that genuinely love the film still too and they're they're my age or older and You know, but much like thrashing, yeah, I don't think it really gets

It's not talked about enough. You are good.

And the and the funny thing is is like I I don't even know where the movie came from'cause I don't know if it was a theatrical release and I just didn't see it till it hit cable or If it never made it a theater then it just was like a cable cast off movie that I happened to find.

Man, there were so many films that made it to the theater for like a week and just left the theater. You know? This is probably one of those there for like two weeks and then probably gone.

Oh I don't know. There was uh a a few theaters even back in my hometown that it would literally have two movies. I mean, this was back before you have like the multiplexes. Now we had Scandalone Theater.

They would have one movie showing it one time, one movie showing it one time, and another movie showing it another time, and then everything would be gone and they would change it out.

Well that's a gross though. Uh budget two point six million.

Uh gross worldwide they made about that back. So it didn't make a lot of money here, but it it did business on home video I can guarantee in an HBO, so I I bet it made a lot of money in the back end and from what I hear the our star of this film

is like a real estate broker somewhere or something like that and he's still pretty fond about, you know, when somebody brings up the movie, he'll he'll talk about it. So I guess he he's pretty pretty happy himself in the legacy bear board.

I'm making this film sound way bigger than it is. But you know, it's it's it's big in my book because it's something from my childhood that just it's it still stays. So there's that. Um Mike, final thoughts, sir.

My final thoughts are if everything I've said didn't make it abundantly clear that I have an unhealthy love for this movie.

I'll just repeat it. I have an unhealthy love for this movie. It just hit at the right time. As far as uh me seeing it on cable, probably Uh not too far after it came out'cause I you said it was a nineteen ninety three film, right?

It must have hit cable pretty quick because I wanna say I was about thirteen, maybe maybe fourteen uh

We're pretty close to that too. We're about the same age, so

Yeah, so I feel like I'm the target audience for this a hundred percent. Generationally speaking, I I uh was a teenager, early teens, and it's kinda that perfect age for movies like this because the characters in here are playing

The older teens. So I'm like the the new generation coming into high school where these guys would have been like the juniors and seniors, even though half of them look like they should be in college or

Beyond.

But y you know how that goes. That's just normal casting. Um

But so yeah, I uh I'm the perfect audience so like you throw this on and you're in awe of like, oh the the cooler this is what the cooler older kids are doing uh when they're not in school and I'm home watching movies about it. But uh

Yeah, cool cast, uh pretty easy digestible story here. It's your classic.

Like fish out of water that turns into like crosstown rival, that turns into killer skate race sequence. So what's not to like?

Uh, even if you don't love it, what's not to like at least. So um I'll leave it at that. See Airborne if you haven't.

Cool. So

Yeah, like I said, it's it's kinda not my thing, but they definitely both movies do have a charm to them. I honestly found the The choreography and the skating in both movies was just amazing to watch.

And I'm okay with a good fish out of water story, but at the time this one came out, I was adulting. Well, kind of adulting.

And I just I really didn't watch anything like that anymore because I felt like I was a grown up.

I know. Stupid, right? But I did th this this one especially just there's a lot of charm to it.

It's just, it's a charming little movie with some skating and a bit of a little more of a story than Thrashen has.

Genuinely a cute little flick, and I did enjoy it.

Cool. I I expected a lot less. Trust me, Sue, that he he you were gonna hate these goddamn things, but uh Not that it's your mother for you to hate, I just you know.

Oh, I know. It's y you know who I am. You know, it's like I have these conversations with my husband all the time, which is it's not my thing. Leave it alone. It's not my thing.

So you showed them a lot more love than I thought you were going to. Um

I'm actually surprised too.

So you know, good good lessons for from from you know nineties movies.

Always go for the sex your best friend because you know what she she she was down for it and he would run a foul a little lot less opposition from good old Jack if he just banged the redhead.

She was ready for it, man. But uh

But yeah, great great nineties movie, great, great feel good movie. I I love I love our star of this film. He he doesn't you can he didn't do much past us, but I I I enjoy my time with him and

You know, humble but but but a smart ass. That's hard to pull off in my opinion.

And um Seth Green's great. Everybody's great in this movie. They all play the role very well.

And I I would watch this uh three more times. I don't even care. I just if I'm bored on a Wednesday I'll turn it on. Just it's it's one of those scenes that's that close to me where I know it's

I know it's kind of mediocre as far as a a quote unquote film goes, but with something special to you like this film, I I I I gotta say, yeah.

That's just...

I I I dig it. I'm gonna leave it at that. And um with that we'll uh come back and uh close out the show.

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Well folks, that's some more in the books. One the one more in the books for us. Uh your your post. I'm happy I'm happy to be here and um doing my thing, bros, all day long.

Uh Mike, I'm sure you have stuff coming up sir. Wha w what's coming what's cooking in the uh number room in hell in the fresh cuts um studios?

Well we just posted episode seventy five which of No More in Hell, which uh Venom it was his picks and he dubbed it Anime.

If you get the joke there. And we did a

We did uh Vampire Hunter E Bloodlust, which is the sequel to Vampire Hunter E and Wicked City. And that was a fun time. And I think the latest episode of Fresh Cuts was Backrooms.

And what we're doing next, I'm not a hundred percent sure'cause there's nothing theatrically coming out this week that's horror, at least not wide release. I am getting something

Uh at our indie theater, which actually looks kind of interesting to me. It's uh

It's supposedly a remake of a Lon Cheney lost film from nineteen twenty two starring Crispin Glover. But I don't think it yeah, I don't think it's a wide release, so chances that like everyone

can see it is low. So I'm thinking we're gonna do something on V O D, which

Who knows, there's so much to choose from that we gotta we gotta weed out like the stuff that's really bad. So we'll we'll be figuring that out. But i in case anyone listening didn't know, Fresh Cuts is a weekly show where we cover

new release horror movies and at the end of the year we do your typical top ten. And uh what else? I think that's it. Most of the stuff I guessed on It's it's been a minute, so I'll leave that for when I've actually re upped with those guest spots and uh that's good for me.

Yeah, just don't watch uh what what Don released Slander recently. Don Don our buddy Donny Tane Tops, Don in L. Was it bears on a boat or bears on a on a ship or something?

Something. Insert animal and location and he's uh he's probably gonna watch it.

If Don doesn't like it, it has to be terrible. It has to be that terrible where Don doesn't like it in.

Or it's really good'cause sometimes he just has like a narrow scope of like what horror should be to him and if it's if it doesn't follow those parameters he he might not hate it, but like

He just has an interesting perspective on like what makes it a good horror or not. But everyone has their own criteria.

Don who notoriously hates the shining. I'm just gonna throw that out there.

Yeah, I remember that.

He doesn't like the shining and that's fine.

Cam just dropped our cinema degeneration covering Sisteria.

really good. I'm not Cam and I just kind of really see eye to eye and we really, really dove into it. And I have to admit that was just an amazing experience being able to talk about

Cyspia that way. You can always find me here and that's about all I got going on right now.

Cool. Yeah, this show, um...

Supposed to have another show coming for for for

I'm a kick myself in the ass for not knowing the name of this network. But my friend Bill Van Bagel, who I just did a guest spot on their show, should be out next week, I'd imagine. Uh Land of the Cree.

We did our Mount Rushmore of of horror.

Uh we had to pick a decade in four subgenres and pick a film from it.

You guys need to hear my my wild and woolly choices on that'cause I I I got I got sidesettled with the eighties and that's a that was gonna be a real hard hard decision to make a four films of putting them out rushmore but

One of those heads gets very sweaty is all say about that. And uh You guys are your slashers, you guys know exactly what I'm talking about.

Uh

Uh that's coming uh next up on this show you will hear um

possibly this Mike. And another Mike, uh Mr. Mike White, uh from the pro for the Projection Booth podcast is gracing us with his presence again. He chills himself to do his own show and I it's a master class of what a podcaster should be and what you can aspire to be, but uh

Yeah, listen to that show for sure. He's supposed to come on and join us. He's one of my one of my all time mentors.

We start our celebration of one character actor, uh, known as Steve Son.

Who apparently has terrible friends and we're doing happy Texas.

And out of sight for that very first episode, uh if we guys were doing a wrestling lineup for for the month, we're gonna do uh

I love episode.

Yeah, it's good

Uh I finally remember the name of that Steve Zahn movie.

The one that was filmed around where I grew up.

Freak talks about it's called Freak Talks About Sex.

Okay.

Yeah, but the second surefire episode of that month is uh Reality Bites, which I have feelings about that movie. A lot.

In uh Suburbia, the not the punk rock one but but the Linklater one. Um

So is this is this actor spotlight gonna be called Zahn with the wind?

Oh no, it's uh Steve Zion has terrible friends'cause he has terrible friends in all those movies and you know Yeah, I I love me some zons, so we're we're gonna talk about'em for a whole month and uh yeah, i it it'll carry over and um

Fun stuff on the horizon too. I'm looking forward to that and trying to recruit some some some some some more talking heads for this program and

Hopefully they'll enjoy. I'm supposed to contact the few people and no spoilers, but I may bring some folks out of retirement with us. Um looking forward to that. Uh

Yeah, that's it for this one though. I had a good time talking with you guys about this and I get really surprised by you Sue and how much you you you dug but didn't dig the movies, you know.

No, I mean it was for me it was just it was just s something completely different than I watch, which is, to be honest, it's a good thing.

Cool.

Sometimes I gotta get out of that zone I get into.

That's it. This has been your Cinema Beef Podcast where Beavot Beef. We've got the grinder. See you next time.

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